Mac Jones’ QB coach explains what went wrong with Patriots | Patriots Talk

Tom Curran talks with QB coach Joe Dickinson, who has worked with Mac Jones for 14 years. How did a good player turn so bad? What’s the future for Mac?
6:00-What led to the decline in play from Mac?
14:30-What stood out on Mac’s interceptions last season?
25:30-How much did coaching contribute to his struggles?
28:30-Why didn’t it work better with Bill O’Brien?
36:00-Mac's relationship with Bill Belichick
CONNECT ➡️ Subscribe to our channel: / @nbcsboston || Our website: www.nbcsportsb... || Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok @nbcsboston
🎧Listen to our podcasts:
🏀 Celtics Talk: link.chtbl.com...
🏈 Patriots Talk: link.chtbl.com...
🔗 Next Pats: link.chtbl.com...
The official KZbin page of NBC Sports Boston. Home of the Celtics, Patriots, Red Sox, and Bruins. We connect fans with the teams they love.

[@damienfallon8980]

Not defending Mac but the Pats WRs did drop every nice deep ball he threw that hit them in the hands for 3 years.

[@antoniochicote4732]

That was like 4 passes at best

[@SkeletorsSon]

🤣 the jagoff threw them over the sideline or 10 yards too far or short

[@givenchie462]

@@SkeletorsSonyou never watched the games

[@666xDevilmanx666]

@@antoniochicote4732 *GO BACK & WATCH AGAIN, “PINK HAT”* 🤦‍♂️🤣

[@666xDevilmanx666]

@@SkeletorsSon *WRONG, “PINK HAT”* 🤦‍♂️🤣

[@ethanarcher9035]

I think this was a good episode from a side of an opinion that we haven't heard all year.

[@jonathanward5213]

Mac Jones having elite coaching since he was 11 explains everything. He had the tools to excel into college. But he doesn’t have the internal make up to lead and excel professionally. You see this in all sports. Tennis players, Potential Olympic athletes etc. This is how youth sports work. The ones who look elite, or have an inside track through family or local coaches, are singled out and get the best. Only a few of these end up rising to the top. Mac was given the externals, but does not have the internals to be one of those. Finally, if what this guy says is true, then he should be coaching offensive lineman, not quarterbacks!

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*WTF ARE YOU BABBLING ABOUT??* 🤔🤦‍♂️🤣🤡

[@DMDvideo10]

The problem with many of todays NFL "Fans" and I use that term loosely is that they think picking Williams or another top picks solves the Patriots issues and it doesn't. You need talent at many other positions to allow a young QB to run the team. Bill and the Krafts did a disservice to the team with their tight wallet. Even now Kraft better be writing checks or the NE Patriots are going nowhere.

[@bugzy2bangz]

It’s a good start though

[@bpusef]

I've never seen a single person say pick a QB and all your problems are solved. I have, however, heard people say if you don't have the QB then it doesn't matter what other problems you solve because you need a QB to compete so solve the biggest problem first, and you'll find out the other problems are not as big of a deal all of a sudden when you have a QB that can elevate the people around him.

[@DMDvideo10]

@@bpusef When you have a great team your QB can elevate them even higher... There's Mahomes and there's everyone else. Once in a generation talent. You're not going to find another one and with a talented roster you don't need to.

[@SkeletorsSon]

Tight wallet, Bill was the one spending cheap on scrubs and wouldn't pay money for D Hop etc, you are the casual fan fool

[@petermarshall6577]

You build teams through the draft not through free agency.

[@dananazarian4303]

Wow, great nuggets and inferences in this interview. Great job Tom.

[@dp2120]

What is he talking about he didn’t have an OC this year?

[@petejr5248]

Excuse making for a below average qb

[@thatDUDEfromMAINE]

during off-season is what he was talking about. mac never had an OC carry over into the off-season to continue training

[@dp2120]

@@thatDUDEfromMAINE That's fair if that's what he meant but I certainly didn't hear him say that explicitly.

[@ayalave75]

@@thatDUDEfromMAINElater in the interview he mentioned O’brian wasn’t a good fit for Mac and “didn’t help him with answers or solutions” so in his words he was also part of the problem. My interpretation was he was saying he didn’t really have an OC this year also. I wasn’t sure at first, but the more he talked the more he made it sound like Billy O was part of the problem.

[@jayy88]

@@ayalave75except the entire offseason guys like Bedard said how great Mac and O’Brien worked together. It’s just more excuse making for Mac being awful.

[@ubtrippin9980]

Belichick’s negligence regarding Offense destroyed a 1st rd QB. Some genius. Glad he’s gone. Rest of the NFL realizes that as well. Now he’s out of football.

[@lamakicker69]

No one destroyed Mac, Mac is just a shitty QB. His dramatic fall off in play did not start his 2nd season. It started the last like 5-6 games of his rookie season.

[@rproverb]

​@@lamakicker69lol out ur fkn mind dude

[@lamakicker69]

@@rproverb no I’m just not delusional and desperately still clinging onto hopes that Mac could miraculously become good. Mac problems started in his last 5-6 games of his ROOKIE season when he finished the season with a passer rating of 78. Mac wasn’t “ruined” in years 2 and 3, the league had already figured him out his rookie season. He sucks.

[@colinmclean2409]

They saw what he did to Mac. Herbert? Yeah ok

[@666xDevilmanx666]

👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@mtadams2009]

I have no idea if Mac could ever be a good or even back up QB in the NFL. What I do know is NE QB issues are on Kraft and Bill. Back when Tom said he wanted to play until he was 45, why did they not lock him up. Instead Tom leaves and they had actually no QB in the waiting, none. At the 11th hour they bring in Cam. Shocker that does not go well. Then they draft Mac and things go well, but to be honest I still did not have a great feeling. Why did they not bring in a seasoned veteran, be it Cam or someone else. You see how Packers do it. Rogers and Love both sat and learned. Teams now want to see what they have right away. Some QBs can do that but many can’t and they never learn the craft of being a big time NFL QB. I think Bill never showed the respect the position deserves because Tom made it look easy. Tom also could make pretty much any of Bills castaway players he found work. No big time receivers needed. Hell Bill lets Mac favorite target walks and he brings on a receiver who is injury prone for the same money Myers wanted. This issue started back when Brady was here. Going on the cheap, year after year with absolutely no plan for the future. Then they act like they can turn this team into a playoff team with little or no talent on the offensive side of the ball. Bill did great things but Bill also did some completely F up stuff. This team is in a seriously bad spot and it’s not turning around any time soon. There is a reason Bill still does not have a job, he has been a terrible GM for many years and no team wants to give that much power. Great coach and for the last ten years very poor on the offensive side of the ball. It’s hard to win when you can’t score even when your team holds the other team to 10 or less points. Defense is important but so is offense. Bill does not seem to care about the side of the ball. That was perfectly clear when he turned the offense over to two coaches who had never coached offense. I would have fired Bill then.

[@brianp9268]

This book sucks

[@LogjammerDbaggagecling-qr5ds]

Belichick should have been fired the moment he decided that he was going to let brady walk. That was an unforgivable decision.

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*LEARN TO SEPARATE PARAGRAPHS!!!* 🤡 *NOBODY IS GOING TO SIFT THRU THAT LONG, JUMBLED-UP RANT* 🤦‍♂️🤣

[@wesmckenna8287]

This podcast makes me think the Pats are preparing us for them to retain Mac and draft MHJ

[@Patsfan973]

Everyone chants zappe zappe but he was absolute trash too. At least mac we've seen him play smart and well enough with a decent team around him I do feel bad for the guy. I wish he never lost that confidence but gotta be hard when ur coach hates you

[@SW-lx3lu]

Agree. It’s ridiculous.

[@SheliaSwaimTeam]

Bill destroyed him. HEY BILL BELICHICK! Karma's a real B bwahahahaha

[@srob1585]

What bill did to him on Monday night football against the bears, how are people shocked the kid lost confidence

[@DWilliams-ce8nb]

Charlie Weis adapted an offense to fit Tom Brady When Weis left, Brady used McDaniels as his assistant. When Mac was drafted, they tried to force Mac into TB's offense Didn't work. Dumb move

[@SW-lx3lu]

Rare perspective from this side. Thanks Tom.

[@marclefebvre7071]

Some of us in Patriot Nation were hard on Mac and loojed the other way when it seemed clear Mac was being vilanized by the team because we so loved Coach Bill. The truth is always somewhere in the middle but Mac is a starting QB in the NFL. Hopefully that old saying holds true for Mac, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Good luck Mac. Stay strong and be ready for your next opportunity.

[@michaellalli7693]

It’s just not normal to assign a defensive coordinator to run your offense and another coach with no offensive experience to coach your second year QB and offense. Say what you want about Jones but Belichick’s decision sabotaged Jones and the entire offense. Nobody does this shit. So where is Bill coaching now?

[@davecarew1116]

Joe D. is exactly right. Mac Jones will never be Tom Brady, but working with COMPETENT, INTELLIGENT coaches, he'll prove himself a fine NFL quarterback. He was FAILED by Mumbles and the rest of that clown show.

[@a.p.980]

*snort*

[@DSlav2488]

Yeah, but the problem is that not a lot of teams have that "perfect structure" in place. I think most teams are roughly similar to NE. I think there's a few teams that would have a good structure for him to flourish in....but I don't think it's more than a few. Let's say NE is below average right now in terms of offensive structure and coaching....I think mac would need an above average offensive team to be successful in. I think that it's possible that he will play for another team, but I think it's hardly a given

[@ironPatriots48]

Oh stop the horse s**t, Mac failed Mac. Zappe went out there with the same players, coaches, and played better.... And he's just as bad😂. That says a lot. No one told him to throw stupid passes across his body, throw off his back foot, stand there like a statue, can't throw Pass 15 yards. People blamed Patrica last year, so they brought in O'Brian " who was a better coordinator ", and he decides to get worse.

[@666xDevilmanx666]

@@a.p.980 *dork*

[@666xDevilmanx666]

@@ironPatriots48 *BLIND MUCH??* 😎

[@emouridevoe9783]

This guy barely blames Mac

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*I WONDER WHY??* 🤔🤦‍♂️🤣🤡

[@SheliaSwaimTeam]

Not true......but then WHY? THE PATRIOTS FANS have done it enough!

[@jayy88]

@@666xDevilmanx666because one guy is employed by Mac and the other looks at him like his son

[@tonybrushier631]

Call it what you want! But his passes do not have enough on it to make it in the NFL. Ready to flip the page on Mac Jones

[@DMDvideo10]

He has plenty on his passes when things are right. Bottom line is he was given a For Focus and expected to drive in the Le Mans race...

[@Jessdogg-j1i]

Smh u fans are a joke

[@CRiiPFACE1100]

@@Jessdogg-j1iong

[@CRiiPFACE1100]

@@DMDvideo10 lmao dude been a can since Alabama mf can tell u played no sports in high school or college lol straight bum

[@brianp9268]

@@DMDvideo10we aren’t really doing this Mac excuses thing again are we?

[@crashcondo]

The idea that somehow Mac was never good and there was nothing Belichick could have done is laughable.

[@ALLpurpose85]

This was a great interview I’m very surprised we got real intel that’s 🔥

[@petermarshall6577]

What went wrong, Mac Jones has never seen the inside of a weight room is what went wrong.

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*VERY STUPID & CLUELESS* 🤡 *DO SOME RESEARCH NEXT TIME BEFORE YOU MAKE YOURSELF LOOK MORE STUPID THAN USUAL* *MAC IS IN THE WEIGHT ROOM NOW!!…& HAS ALWAYS STARTED OFFSEASON PROGRAMS WHILE OTHERS ARE SUNNING ON THE BEACH* 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤣🤣🤣

[@idian100]

Mac Jones QB Coach understands ownership and leadership. Extremely refreshing. I think Josh is coming back and Mac is staying.

[@SheliaSwaimTeam]

For Mac's sake I don't want him to come back. He is so HATED that that "noose around his neck" will never allow him to become the QB he's capable of. Trade him now. I hope Mac comes back some day and beats the CRAP out the team that did their best to destroy him. Bill Belichick is a JOKE NOW.

[@KarltonMARZTV]

Great great great interview and honest insight

[@Channelisunderconstruction]

Excellent episode

[@wrongwayranger4736]

Bill O’Brian quit on Jones?

[@normandomino4140]

I am glad this interview cleared the air about the whole situation. Now if they decide to keep him, get some recievers.... Upgrade the offensive personnel around him and let that man play OR trade him and let him go elsewhere.

[@derricklavoie2513]

I’m all in on this conversation. I still think Mac can be the guy. With an improved line and a number one receiver as well as Van Pelt who is an actual Offensive Coach. I’d hate to give up on him

[@courtlandtpalton3441]

Mitchell trubisky 2.0

[@tommasiero5234]

Pats PR full throttle

[@natethorpe8223]

Curran is the choir boy for Kraft

[@666xDevilmanx666]

@@natethorpe8223 *SAYS THE “PINK HAT”* *WHAT WILL BE YOUR EXCUSE FOR MAC’s HISTORIC COMEBACK NOW THAT THE CANCER CALLED BELICHICK IS GONE??* 🤔🤦‍♂️🤣

[@LogjammerDbaggagecling-qr5ds]

This fan base absolutely deserves what they're getting right now. The more they try to pin the problems of this garbage team on one player who got fucked over at every turn, the happier I am that this team is going to suck ass for the next decade. Congrats, youre the new lions, except you arent likeable in any way. God I love it.

[@matts4030]

What r u doing watching this if your not part of this fan base? Oh just being a troll.. got it

[@matts4030]

You're not your lol b4 any1 say anything

[@knrtissthedustypirate]

That’s great and all BUT… the problem is, the tape doesn’t lie and Joe says this as well. My problem is, this is Mac’s 2nd year with bad tape. Sam Darnold’s tape didn’t lie, we were clowning him when he was bad at Jets & seeing ghosts, he then went to other teams and was the same guy. Pressure busts pipes or creates diamonds. Anyone pointing at Mac’s college years, here’s a newsflash no QB in the NFL will ever have the all-star offensive weapons and protection Mac had in college. So if that is what’s required for him to be the best Mac, we can ship him out because Mac playing his best in the NFL is a pipe dream. I had high hopes for Mac when we drafted him, but at this point I think it’s best or him & Pats to find him another team. Wish him all the best!

[@Speedyreedy1218]

Tua, Jalen, Burrow have all star weapons ...

[@Bone-yall-soft]

​@@Speedyreedy1218those QBs have an NFL starter above average arm. Mac's arm is weak.

[@chrism9165]

2.5 years of bad tape

[@Bone-yall-soft]

@@chrism9165 2 and a quarter to be technical. Mac isn't the guy

[@Speedyreedy1218]

@@Bone-yall-soft It's not.

[@markpuccetti4218]

great interview !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@allysondominguez975]

Ive been a patriot fan since I was a baby born into it and I'm telling you Mac wasn't the problem and we are not a quarterback away from fixing our team look at the lions we need to fix our offense I say we pick offense this year starting with Marving Harrison Jr

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*BRAVO* ‼️‼️‼️

[@jamesfontes9292]

Everything has to go perfect for Mac to succeed and that's not going to happen

[@jasonmiller7806]

Everything has to be perfect for most qb’s to succeed. Tom Brady or Joe Montana or Dan Marino couldn’t have been successful on the team we had this year. Mac owns a portion of the responsibility. I admit that, but when you have a shit OLine and are running for your life every play and your receivers are dropping passes (Devante Parker & Juju) how can you succeed?

[@steveosborn7224]

@@jasonmiller7806no it doesn’t. Brady won superbowls with short ass white wide receivers. Mac needs Alabama level talent and the Alabama level advantage of playing worse teams to be successful. Stick Joe Burrow on the Patriots his rookie year and he would have them competing for a division title every year. They won’t sniff the division with Mac no matter what they surround him with.

[@DWilliams-ce8nb]

@@steveosborn7224 UM... Burrow had Jamarr Chase and Justin Jefferson at LSU. Has Chase, Tee Higgins and Ty Boyd at Cincy.

[@SkeletorsSon]

No he just sucks stops the cap

[@steveosborn7224]

@@DWilliams-ce8nb and hes got a pretty damn good arm now and he’s mobile as hell. He’s got the physical attributes Mac doesn’t. Burrow has played behind a terrible offensive line for seemingly his whole NFL career and has down great things. Remember two years ago on the run to the Super Bowl when TN sacked him 9 times in that game and he still found a way to win in an upset? All that aside there’s no comparison in the mental and physical toughness that Burrow has over Mac.

[@ponce1741]

Purdy just showd us that if you have a good supporting team you dont need a elite QB to be a superbowl team........we have no one in the offense you can put Mahones there that it wouldnt be a superbowl team

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*EXACTLY* ‼️

[@jayy88]

He doesn’t have a “good supporting team” he has a hall of fame LT RB and possibly TE and WR that’s almost impossible to replicate he also has a good defense and the best play caller in football. Good luck drafting perfectly and making a trade for Christian Mccafery. Jimmy G succeeded in that offense to I heard he’s available so you want him?

[@666xDevilmanx666]

@@jayy88 *WTF ARE YOU BABBLING ABOUT?* 🤡

[@jayy88]

@@666xDevilmanx666 do you understand English?

[@666xDevilmanx666]

@@jayy88 *NOT “BULLSHITANESE”* 🤡

[@SkeletorsSon]

Stop the cap no one in the league but 3 or 4 teams have a good O line and protection, other teams work around it like Zappe did, Mac just stinks

[@petejr5248]

Exactly !!! his coach made so many excuses, but didn’t give us the real truth which is your guy stinks and is an NFL back up at best

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*D U M B* 🤡

[@lilkhaled9201]

Most golf references I’ve ever heard

[@mafootballguy7077]

Dear Coach Mayo: DRAFT MARVIN HARRISON and give Mac a second chance. You know BB undermined him. 🙏 If the Bears decide to trade down with you, screw 'em. The Pats need to forego the project and take the known quantity. I've said it before, I'm saying it now, and I will continue to say it until the draft.

[@knrtissthedustypirate]

Mac is already on his 3rd chance now. He’s just a right handed brighter colored Tua. Tua ain’t going to no AFC championship game with Dolphins. Mac vs. Bill got blown out all but 1 game (the game he didn’t throw). Let’s not waste another year on him, he’s not good enough.

[@mafootballguy7077]

​@knrtiss His best NFL comps tbh are Tua and Goff, both of whom have stellar pass-catchers and fizzled in the playoffs. So, I very much see your point.

[@DMDvideo10]

Build a team around his skills and watch him flourish... It's so simple...

[@jelmore61]

@@knrtissthedustypiratehe beat the bills the last time he played them. Do you even watch the games?

[@jahmanglass5]

​@@knrtissthedustypirate😂😂😂😂 did you Miss the bills game at home this year Mac played fantastic and beat the bills !! You're obviously not that observant 😂😂😂

[@jordanwise73]

Theres alot of similarities between BB and Nick Saban. One huge difference i see is Nick truly cares about his players and BB thought about players like poker chips. Not defending anyone because everyone did it the wrong way. As a coach you have to try to give your players the best coaching and the best chance to win. As a player you have to accept the coaching youre given and look at yourself as the problem first. I feel like neither happened and everyone is out of a job.

[@SouloSoulo__]

This was a good interview both sides were laid out good one!

[@CWYMAN77]

The rehabilitation of Mac has begun. The guy sucks. If they bring him back as the starter, they’re done.

[@hectorcruz002]

Forget drafting that QB 3rd, instead, according to Mac’s personal defense attorney/bff/coach Pats should draft best tackle available and extend Mac for mother 10 years. It was all on BB

[@coreydias9635]

Tom Brady Qoute” excuses are for losers”

[@Aza13]

Great show but god dayum heard me enough golf analogies to last a life time lol

[@2500BC]

Not a Bill fan but surprising that other coaches who reach the end of a dynasty don’t get this hate and response to ever comment defending Bill is something obtuse like “he lost when brady left”. All great coaches w multiple sb’s had great players

[@razorbeard6970]

He didn't win much both before and after Brady is the issue. He came into situations where each team had a franchise QB who still has years of quality play in them and he struggled with each to be above .500

[@mikeramos6272]

Im convinced that Tom Curren is a mouth piece for the Patriots. Why bring up jones and do a whole podcast on a bun who is supposedly out of here. Unless, hes grooming us for the idea to have jones back on the team and under center. Regardless, its gonna be a worse product this year with no offense. A rookie head coach and most likely same for OC. Good luck with all of that curren.

[@randomflagg7331]

i've wondered this a lot myelf! i remember him saying that kraft liked him early on but then his sense of humor turned em sour against him.... yeah, right ;)

[@razorbeard6970]

Curran works for Boston media and is as critical of the team, coaching, direction as can be fair. The fact he's talking about Jones is a critical stance on the team for development, drafting, and critical coaching decisions that effected his play.

[@brianp9268]

What is up with this comment section of Mac apologists? Its like some twilight world stuff. Mac proved he isn’t the guy last year. Simple as that. Wish him luck.

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*IT’S CALLED…* *1. WE KNOW FOOTBALL* *2. WE KNOW BELICHICK LET HIS EGO SABOTAGE THE TEAM(JUST LIKE THE BUTLER SB BENCHING)* *3. WE’RE NOT “PINK HAT” CASUALS WHO DON’T TAKE THE TIME TO RESEARCH SHIT & READ REPORTS ABOUT BELICHICK SABOTAGING THE TEAM* 🤡🤡🤡

[@chrism9165]

Tom E Curran allowed Macs guy to say he has never had a OC. How the hellllll do you not stop and say what do you mean he has never had an OC in the NFL?

[@stephenmartin6430]

Great podcast, this helps paint a picture from Mac's perspective. s

[@naytjohnson]

Good interview.. However, this to me is more of a reason to move on from Mac. Seemed liked it was everyone's fault but Mac's. Nobody believed in him. Nobody supported him. He thought he was going to sit a year behind Cam. If he needs to be developed. He is not a starting QB. AND... If this guy helped him in his first year and his second.. How good of a coach is he??

[@Speedyreedy1218]

Pat Mahomes needed a year to develop. So did Jalen. Lamar and Allen a half a season.

[@naytjohnson]

Agreed..But did their personal coach come out saying he should have demanded a trade after his first year? I don't hate Mac. Just looking for accountability and not a PR spin.

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*WTF ARE YOU BABBLING ABOUT??* *YOU TOTALLY MISSED THE WHOLE POINT!!* 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheFinalBossEngaged]

Great job, Tom Curran! Joe is the best person to speak for Mac.

[@jomccutcheon2173]

LOL, just Mac right? Nothing and no one else contributed to the failure of 2023? Okay. let's go with that one bud. So freaking shortsighted.

[@yohanonshine4664]

Luck only gets you so far. No athletic talent weak arm see ya jonesy

[@lovevibration3]

Fire Kràft

[@TheFinalBossEngaged]

Hire Josh McDaniels.

[@courtlandtpalton3441]

😂

[@petejr5248]

Hell no

[@chanorando]

I'm way late to this party but sometimes QBs don't fail on talent alone. Ask David Carr. Sometimes the QB is ruined…That nails it describing Mac Jones experience as a Patriot. As a native Pats fan, I was disgusted by the mismanagement. At the very least, his opportunity to succeed was ruined by mishandling. At worst he was very possibly a victim of intentional sabotage by a vindictive HC. IMO, Belichick is a hypocrite. Belichick expects EVERYONE ELSE to be accountable and team driven so, WHY ISN'T HE??!! I put the blame squarely on COACHING for the decline of Mac. Let's not forget Mac's success. Season 1: Made Playoffs @ 10-7 and pro-bowl alternate: That doesn't happen by accident in the NFL! Mac wasn’t flawless but deficiencies were completely coachable. Season 2: He loses a great OC, replaced by a couple meathead yes men with NO Offensive credibility!... Couple that with head scratching, uncomplimentary, offensive schemes/gameplans. Add the HC undermining Mac's confidence by benching him after ONE interception in a game! W*F!! How many other HCs would bench the starter after ONE interception early in a game??!! Answer: NONE!! Season 3: Under "sink or swim" duress with another questionable meathead OC, more inexplicable schemes/gameplans, and no support from an uncommunicative dis-engaged HC!! Recipe for failure ONLY! Was Mac Jones at all responsible for his decline? The answer is: MINIMALLY! Yes, he is high strung and impatient. Yes, he lost the team by calling out teammates for perceived failures. Yes, he was guilty of being a young immature player who made some poor decisions. None of those things were good, but he was understandably frustrated in dealing with an UNTENABLE situation!! I wish the best of success to Mac and my personal apology. I am embarrassed by what my team did to him. He should have had a 4th Pats year with a legit chance to thrive… It's abundantly clear that Belichick is a brilliant Narcissist. He's the best defensive mind the game has ever seen, but he has NO respect for offense and offensive players, and NO respect for the Owner that employs him. He has repeatedly undermined what was best for the team while claiming otherwise. Sitting Malcolm Butler in SB 52 threw ALL Players under the Bus! How was that best for the TEAM?! Players are human and all different. It's a HC duty to manage personalities and CREATE an atmosphere of SUCCESS for overall TEAM benefit! Ruining the starting QB consciously or unconsciously because he isn't "your guy" is Textbook NARCISSISM and absolutely NOT what is “BEST” for the TEAM! Belichick does what is best for his EGO! He may have cut his football teeth under Navy Athletics, and he may THINK he runs a team modeled on the military, but he does NOT! He FORGOT that EVERY serviceman swears an oath and is accountable to a higher authority! The Admiral or General, may not agree with or even respect The President, but it's their duty to their country to follow orders and to NEVER undermine or subvert “The Boss” or the MEN under their command. Belichick should never again be trusted with a HC position. He's borderline megalomaniacal, and a cancer in any position of authority. I would hire him as a DC with very minimal authority only. IMO, players were willing to endure the "Belichick Way" because they believed TB12 ensured a legitimate SB shot year after year. Yes, the defenses were equally important to the repeated success, but The GOAT was the GLUE that held it all together. When the glue dissolved, it unsurprisingly fell apart.

[@littlenugs9942]

Bottom line is protection. Protection protection protection! Please patriots nation fix that damn offensive line. I can deal with a few picks 8-10 a yr but the TD / Interception rate has to be better... 35-10/40-12 Mac can do it! Get him protection and 2 more talented receivers who can get that y.a.c..

[@blackandwhitesportstoo]

Bravo Tom. Real Good Episode with Joe.

[@timlanglois2279]

When is Curran gonna stop kicking Bill when he is down? All he did was bring in a friend of Mac's to talk about how it wasn't his fault.

[@Jessdogg-j1i]

Oh shut up

[@timlanglois2279]

@@Jessdogg-j1i na dog I'm good

[@user-ws7in6pb8i]

Because it is/was Belichick’s fault. What kind of moron brings in 2 people with no offensive experience to be joint QB/Offensive coordinator? We’re not talking about high school or college where maybe you could get away with it, this is the NFL and their offense was a joke. Since Brady left Belichick did nothing to make the offense better. He deserved to be fired.

[@timlanglois2279]

@user-ws7in6pb8i I didn't say it wasn't Bill's fault. Do I think he deserves all the blame? No. Do I think he deserves most of it? Yea. But Mac has his share too. But my point is that Curran is a bill hater and constantly does the same pod cast over and over about what a nitwit he thinks bill is. The guy already lost his job, get over it. I doubt he will cover his buddy Mayo like this.

[@mtadams2009]

Then we have the opposite end which is the BB fan boy club. Most of us acknowledge the great things Bill did but we can also see where he messed up. Bill the GM got Bill the coach fired. New England is going to have a hard time bringing in an offensive head coach because the talent is so poor. No one wants to try to coach this train wreck of talent. Many have already said no and no team is hiring Bill for a reason. Sports is a younger man’s game. Just how it is. Bill needs relax and enjoy life, he goes straight to the Hall of Fame and someday his last few years in NE will be forgotten.

[@455zzz]

Idk last time I saw Mac play well was vs the ravens in 2022 will MHJ make him better sure but how much better

[@markphillips8097]

As a Jones fan I say this ,when Jones first got there he was a promising young QB,after Bill got his hands on him he destroyed that guy Josh was keeping him at Bay,after he left Jones was doomed, kind of like Flores in Miami,if I were looking to hire a coach I would not want Bill anywhere near a promising QB,hell he talked to Brady like he was a dog but he could take it

[@phibes9295]

Living there from 01-10 I couldn't believe how many people wanted Brady shipped out after that undefeated loss in the SB Getting old, supermodel wife blah blah 🤦 My point is win,lose that is a brutal fan base.

[@jimrabideau9929]

Mac is not athletic was one of the reasons, has a decent arm but makes bad decisions and awkward in the pocket

[@chrism9165]

The second your QB does fuckin breathing exercises you are done as a team. Imagine Tom Brady sitting on the bench doing breathing exercises talking to a therapist.

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*HE USED TO* 🤡

[@prismaticx1375]

Like this if you think Mac deserves another a shot with a actual offense..

[@costo34ify]

Bring back noodle arm.hahahahahaha

[@astronorthwet636]

God! Be quiet, quit listening to yourself talk and let your guest speak!

[@TheBizziniss]

I don’t know if Mac will ever be a serviceable QB in the NFL. His last year in college was pretty impressive and a lot of those players he played with and against are in the NFL. His first season looked pretty descent. Then he had Matt P calling offensive plays and that’s when it went off the rails. Mac reminds me of Alex Smith a lot. You aren’t going to be successful with 3 OCs in three seasons. I think Alex smith had 6 OCs in 6 seasons. He just needs the right coach and some consistency and we can at least see whether he is a starter in the NFL. I suspect he is a mid tier starter or high tier backup.

[@ademirsegura6307]

Especially how he went to KC n later to DC later

[@scottadkins918]

He is simply not good enough for the nfl. We call other qbs a bust but we give mac all kinds of excuses. its not that hard to figure out. after teams adjusted to him the last few games of his first year it was a done deal.

[@steveosborn7224]

I’ve never seen a worse QB get this must protection and excuses on social media lol. Move on from this guy.

[@givenchie462]

Y’all don’t know football…

[@666xDevilmanx666]

@@steveosborn7224 *BECAUSE YOU’RE BLIND & STUPID* #KEEP #WATCHING 🤡

[@666xDevilmanx666]

@@givenchie462 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@Solitaryhunter1]

Great interview. Watch your interruptions Tom. Too much Dunkins lol. Why can't the new offensive staff try to rebuild Mac, while also drafting a QB and brining in a veteran journeyman? Almost like the Seahawks did when Pete took over and eventually Russell Wilson became the guy.

[@ArnieMac]

Bring Mac Back

[@popboffin4310]

“What you put on tape is what you are”. This guy spent 50 minutes insinuating blame was everywhere, but I’m sorry 1/3 years being ok is horrible and not worth a starting role in the NFL

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*CLUELESS MUCH??* 🤡

[@antoniochicote4732]

I guess this is the reason why mac is such a baby

[@petejr5248]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@richardmafera718]

What went wrong! Start with the offensive line Couldn't block a high school defense OB running for his life Not a pretty sight

[@johncushman7458]

I believe The Patriots began their Downfall began following Superbowl Loss to The Eagles.Brady+ Belichick's Testy Relationship began to sour Due2 Lack of Suitable Target's Gronk'sRetirement+A 2-3 Year Contract Extension.kraft was also Involved in The Drama. It worsened after Brady Left, Josh McDaniels Departure was The Icing on The Cake! It's Been said that Belichick didn't want2 Draft Mac Jones, In My opinion The Fact that there Belichick didn't hire A Real Offensive Coordinator For The 2022-23 Season! I believe Belichick didn't Plan2 Resign with NE, I Believe Belichick knew that He was Going2 Be Stripped from some of His Responsibilities Which led Him2 Rebell+ Sabotage The Patriots with Matt Patricia+Joe Judge Patricia Immediately Put Kendrick Bourne into The Doghouse for no Reason, They all literally Destroyed Mac Jones+The Whole Offensive Line! There's no logical reason for Belichick2 Allow Patricia 2 hire Same Guy That Designed The Lions Playcall's for The 0-16 Team

[@jonmichael3280]

You Mac weirdos are seriously troubling people. Teams adjust after your rookie season. It's always been this way and his arm just wasn't strong enough to overcome the obstacles in his way. He would need a Shanahan style team to have long term success. Dump it off and let the backs/receivers do the work. Only ask him to make tough throws occasionally. That's not happening here!

[@steveosborn7224]

Absolutely dude, you nailed it. Would Mac look better in that system? Absolutely, but that isn’t likely to happen for him. Even then he wouldn’t be elite. He’d be a Jimmy G lite.

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*CL🤡WN* #STAY #TUNED

[@jonmichael3280]

@@666xDevilmanx666 😂 when hell freezes over

[@666xDevilmanx666]

@@jonmichael3280 *IT’S A WIN WIN FOR MAC…HE EITHER STAYS WITH A NEW COACH & LIGHTS IT UP, OR HE GOES TO A NEW TEAM & LIGHTS IT UP.* *EITHER WAY HE DOESN’T HAVE TO DEAL WITH BELICHICK’s EGO & SABOTAGING.* 🐸☕️

[@Kevinjimtheone]

What does he mean "He never really worked with BoB" and that her was "a new voice in Mac's ear"? BoB was his college OC...

[@themace2055]

He never was. Mac helped BoB learn the Bama playbook when BoB first got there and Mac had already declared for the draft. Sark was Mac's college coach. Google is free btw.

[@jelmore61]

No he wasn’t, he got there as Mac was leaving.

[@TheCosmith625]

BoB got hired by Bama in 2021 when Mac declared for the NFL draft. Mac Jones was not coached by Bob during his last year at Bama. Mac was coached by Steve Sarkisian (now Head coach at Texas). Honestly Mac being young needs consistency from coaching staff and he needs someone who can develop his skill set in my opinion.

[@DWilliams-ce8nb]

Sarkisian was Mac's Bama OC. Not BoB

[@rgonz81]

Hahaha Curren putting in work to up Mac's trade value

[@platinum9898]

Mac jones was the reason we failed. Confidence comes from within

[@jahmanglass5]

Let me guess you are the type of person who thinks Zappe is better than Mac 😂😂😂 dont you !

[@Bone-yall-soft]

Both mediocre QBs but Zappe plays with heart and confidence, Mac not so much​@@jahmanglass5

[@user-ws7in6pb8i]

How about no offensive line and cheap substandard receivers? Grow up

[@Bone-yall-soft]

@@user-ws7in6pb8i how about throwing the ball to other team repeatedly and being shut out back to back weeks? How about below average QB arm with poor velocity. How about not being able to extend plays with your legs. I was biggest Mac supporter but the tape don't lie. He declined ever since last quarter or his rookie year. Even the Boston media brainwashed me for a bit thinking he was any good.

[@Bone-yall-soft]

@@user-ws7in6pb8i an NFL QB is suppose to be able to handle adversity as the leader. He failed the test and his footwork in the pocket wasn't even of a starting high school QB. Learn to take accountability. Mac isn't it

[@phil1805]

That's all fine, but Mac is mentally soft.

[@jahmanglass5]

You would be mentally soft too if you boss/coach treated you like 💩at every opportunity and didn't do anything at all to try to help develop you to be better no one is going to thrive in those conditions!

[@phil1805]

Teflon Mac

[@Bone-yall-soft]

​​@@jahmanglass5he is mentally soft and checked out. He can't handle adversity and he was already limited with his skillset as A QB. Can't keep plays alive with feet, below average velocity on football, can't throw it to the sidelines. I was biggest Mac supporter but that's over 2 seasons of terrible QB play. He was declining last quarter of his rookie year. He seems like a good guy but not the type to lead

[@666xDevilmanx666]

@@phil1805 *Dipshit Phil* 🤡

[@1sewalker]

Great episode, Tom. Inside every helmet and uniform is a human.

[@coreydias9635]

Only one type of QB has this many excuses. Mac=Bust

[@jt4401]

Cringe episode - Basically skirting around just blaming Bill for all his lack of success

[@TheFinalBossEngaged]

It was posted 7 minutes ago - and you're already attacking the guest?? no way you watched this

[@Valyr1on]

I mean do you expect Mac’s QB coach to shit on his own client?

[@themace2055]

@@TheFinalBossEngaged People are clowns

[@knrtissthedustypirate]

@@TheFinalBossEngaged this man started the pod by saying Mac didn’t have a coordinator for the last 3 seasons, mind you he’s been 3 seasons in the NFL. Followed by it’s hard to point out what went wrong this season… that’s all I needed to know where this was heading, I guess it was the same for JT 😂

[@adultbrian]

Say what you will about mac but how bill handled him and the offensive team building was some of the most amateur idiotic and comical efforts ever seen in the NFL. If he was bill belichick he would have been laughed out of the league.... or maybe he already has been, I wonder why no one seems to want bill 🤔🤔

[@fridgecold4048]

MAC is the best QB for the Pats. 39:09

[@matthewgamelli1251]

Late night, Tom? Jeesh, poor guy looks like he’s about to put to sleep! 😅

[@petejr5248]

Oh my goodness, this excuse making ball washing of Mac Jones is nauseating. The reason why It didn’t work is 😮because Mac isn’t good he’s limited, and he’s not a leader.

[@jasonmiller7806]

Nothing to do with Oline and receivers dropping balls right?

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*WE HAVE A “PINK HAT”, FOLKS* ‼️🤡

[@SheliaSwaimTeam]

HATERS IN THE ROOM

[@jasonmiller7806]

@@666xDevilmanx666 I’m not saying he was perfect and didn’t make mistakes but no QB in the league could have been successful in his situation. Zappe included. Pink Deeze.

[@666xDevilmanx666]

@@jasonmiller7806 🤦‍♂️🤣🤦‍♂️🤣🤦‍♂️🤣🤦‍♂️

[@jacksoncraddock7264]

I mean, how much emotional support does a full grown adult human being need to play the QB position?!?! lol like I get it, but man, Mac needs to toughen the fck up….

[@sandroromano2863]

What is this guy suppose to say about MAC when he just finished cashing his cheque? He tries to make you think Mac is better than what he was this year but he is still far from a good QB and 100% not a franchise QB Bad arm, bad attitude, bad mobility, bad pocket presence, b 15:06 ad decision maker. First year they would not make him throw past 5 yards. So he had good stats. Get rid of him fast!!

[@BryanRichardson1939]

Come on plzzzzz no mac anymore, diva qb, not what pats need, we have money and #3 pick, get Harrison and trade up get penix jr

[@insulasagna212]

If this guy is a quarterback coach, no wonder Mac is a failure.

[@ironPatriots48]

Mac Jones, destroyed Mac Jones... period. Not Bill, not the qb coach, not the players. Anytime the backup, that is not much better, can come in with the exact same tools you have and play better than you, says a lot. Mac , unless he ever gets his s**t together, will be another good college qb that turned bad nfl qb.

[@666xDevilmanx666]

🙄🙄🙄

[@ironPatriots48]

@666xDevilmanx666 what's the childish emoji for? Facts are facts.. PERIOD.

[@fridgecold4048]

Bill is gone and Mac is coming strong. "Is your Fridge Cold ?"

[@ironPatriots48]

@@fridgecold4048 LMAO, back to the drawing board because that was 👎 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@666xDevilmanx666]

@@ironPatriots48 *OPINIONS (((ARE NOT))) FACTS.* 🤡

[@seankennedy18]

This guy makes money off of Mac. He's not gonna tell the truth is Mac has no arm strength off his back foot, and if you watch guys like Josh Allen, the disparity is unreal. Mac's a UFL player.

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*STUPID* 🤡

[@SheliaSwaimTeam]

SAID BY THE HATERS

[@colinmclean2409]

Belichik

[@coreydias9635]

Let’s see if JD has three years of excuses from the media. For some reason I doubt it.

[@melliot0700]

So this sounds like we going with Mac this next year smh

[@dwayneroberts6616]

Translation: Curran is preparing the NE fans to see Kraft keep Mac and draft MHJ. Kraft is hell bent to make his draft pick work. Mac was definitely Krafts pick! They want to blame BB for ruining a QB that never had it. McDaniels catered to Macs limmited physical abilities and no one had film on Mac yet his rookie year. Draft Drake May he'll take the job from Mac within halfway through training camp.

[@paulcosta8930]

Let’s keep it simple. Mac sucks.

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*SIMPLETONS…KEEPING IT S I M P L E* 🤣🤣🤣

[@petejr5248]

This guy washed Mac’s balls for the entire interview. Sir, working hard, working out and loving football has done what for the patriots. The kid stinks.

[@ayalave75]

With all due respect, the guys been on Mac’s parents payroll since he was 12, im guessing washing someones balls is probable a part of his job description.

[@666xDevilmanx666]

*SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE “PINK HAT” CASUAL!!!* 🙄🤣

[@UpChuckTheBoogie]

Mac Jones is terrible

[@deeztrades222]

This was one of the worst interviews I've ever seen. This is Kraft getting Curan to shit all over BB. And for all the Mac apologists out there, yes BB absolutely built a terrible roster and Patricia as OC was down right negligent, but making Mac a 1st rd pick was one of those terrible decisions.

[@sugarman9323]

Slow. Bad arm. End of story.

[@thekid3375]

We got a tennis brat trying to play QB. The 1st time he faced adversity he had temper tantrums like an infant. Everyone else’s fault but Mac