The secret BIG THALL doesn't want you to know | Thick Riff Thursday, Ep 45

[@kadensabourin2571]

Nick BroomTHALL

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

there it is

[@kadensabourin2571]

@@nickbroomhallmusic I couldn’t resist😭

[@drivabletoaster417]

I rushed to the comments only to find my joke already told. Fair play, Sir.

[@kadensabourin2571]

@@drivabletoaster417 lmao GG

[@GuilhermeHKohnGAnti]

Nick Bruthall. That’s a nice name for a death core vocalist

[@Blacklight_Music]

If you’d told me in 2008 that Vildhjarta would be not only relevant, but very influential 15 years later, I’d have thought you were nuts.

[@danieldavidson5447]

Their new stuff has got me so hyped!!!

[@honigdachs.]

I don't know a single person in the scene who knows them, let alone is influenced by them. I think they're in this "internet nerd metal" bubble that exists, but nobody outside of it cares about.

[@danieldavidson5447]

@@honigdachs. Lame comment

[@mileshurst9823]

i think its accurate, although unfortunate @@danieldavidson5447

[@kylanmcnichols6525]

They are the only band that each new single/album is better than the last. Other than Stoort, which Calle is also in.

[@cylershaw7701]

You NEED to turn this into a full song! I absolutely love it!

[@dilbophagginz]

That Saturn trick with the DI was one of the best I've seen yet. Truly the hot sauce of mixing plugins

[@kelly.householder]

that trick with Saturn on the DI is sick.. I love how much clarity of that pick attack it's getting for sure. you cracked me up with sample of the room next door.

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Thanks man! When life gives you lemons 😅

[@Reapertips]

Thank you for these videos, Nick! Helps me so muuuch when I feel uninspired and lost. You are awesome

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Thanks so much, man! I appreciate that!

[@divinemental]

Love when real recognize real! Would be so fired up to see you two collab.

[@MOMetalProductions]

Man, that saturn before the amp made a HUGE difference! Also: thall.

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Thanks dude! Been enjoying your videos lately!

[@Rowanexen]

I showed a non-metalhead friend I have a thall song. Presumably due to the bends, they called it "weewoo music." That stuck with me 😂

[@normannguitar]

perfect description

[@xRamZx]

Wife calls erra/invent animate weedoleedee bands

[@BrofUJu]

When I was younger, before djent was a word, my buddy and I always called it the "gonk" and still do, lol. Like Meshuggah, early Architects, it still just sounds like a gonk to me

[@GIANTENEMYB1RD]

Back in the Colony/Clayman days I heard someone call In Flames "christmas metal" and it has stuck with me since.

[@williamvancourt528]

In flames best era though​@@GIANTENEMYB1RD

[@KarateGandalf.]

I'm a simple man, I see the thall, I must have the thall

[@lambgoat2421]

mfw I dont know what thall is

[@bolillo5013]

The Elden Ring reference was amazing. I CANNOT wait for the DLC.

[@AZALEA_HG]

The sample thing is SO REAL LMAO I’ll be making the song and be like “wait this annoying fridge actually goes so hard”

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

😂

[@fwlipem]

it must come to life as a full track. i can easily imagine guys like Alessandro Zilio ripping a sick guest solo over this. amazing, Nick.

[@o.phillips2522]

The whammy has a really aggressive high cut filter to mask the digital artifacts it introduces

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Oh interesting! That makes sense. I definitely want to look into it a little more just to know exactly what it does. Still my fav pedal tho 🧡

[@buricaliskan]

Nick, these videos are unbelievably inspiring!! Without a doubt, my favorite weekly youtube series 😀 Cheers

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Buri! Thanks so much bro!

[@emilblvck5580]

The Elden Ring edit as introduction to the video was clean AF

[@shane_wallace]

I laughed out loud lmfaooo

[@alexbing1391]

dude I hope your channel blows up. youre really talented!

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Thanks so much! 🙏

[@PROGRESORAS]

You make it look so easy haha. Awesome riff man!

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Thanks dude!

[@PROGRESORAS]

@@nickbroomhallmusic you are welcome ^^

[@diabolicwaste]

so thall sick riff dude

[@vinnilopiccolo9333]

Your workflow and process is awesome. Thank you for making these!! Thall Thursday 🤘🏼

[@alvarg]

you don't have enough subs my dude. this is some professional level quality you are making.

[@kevinthompsonmusic1435]

This was so fucking great to watch, man you’ve got such a talent. The next door drill section and automating it into an intro piece was so good lmao. Bravo man

[@lucascrain035]

saturn trick is goated with the sauce, thank you for the knowledge 🙏

[@eliteextremophile8895]

I've been using Saturn and later on Saturn 2 for years pretty much every time I wanted to shape the tone. Not just guitar or bass tone, literally every tone. Vocals, drums, woodwind etc. etc. It's my most used plugin ever.

[@binzianer]

sounds so clean! awesome production!

[@pattysmusic524]

This was a fun one! I like how creative this episode got. Using a lot of different elements. The end product kind of made me think of Termina. Sounds sick!

[@SavoryShredZ]

This is sick! Thanks for sharing!

[@m_butlermusic]

Yes! Love it dude, sounds great!!

[@shoyei]

Bro the Elden Ring item overlay had me dying. 😂 Subscribed.

[@quocbinh6674]

SAMPLE OUT OF NO WHERE IS TOP TIER BLESSINGGGGGGGG

[@Morrizxn]

by far the best episode!! in my opinion, just because its completely my music taste. keep going

[@leihnusz2455]

Thall Thursday didn't disappoint! Awesome stuff Nick! Could you imagine doing a Video on your processing some day? Especially on the guitar bus and the master bus chain. I can't get my Archetype Nolly to sound anything as close to that good to be honest.

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Definitely! I have a Tutorial Tuesday video in mind for that.

[@leihnusz2455]

@@nickbroomhallmusic Really looking forward to it! Have a nice day and greetings from Hamburg, Germany! \m/

[@TempleGuitars]

I am pumped for this.@@nickbroomhallmusic

[@Danzan_YT]

You just gained a new subscriber. Loved it man!!

[@numbersabcdefg]

that intro melody from yesterday that you started with also sounds very ALLUVIAL

[@twicebetrayed5650]

Watching you work is so incredible lol the creativity is super admirable and on top of it you’re really skilled!

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Thank you so much!

[@BrendonKPadjasek]

I have the same issue with the Whammy every time I use it as well. That Saturn trick was cool, I might steal it haha. Cool stuff man, keep it up!

[@MarkDatines]

WH4 isn’t true bypass. Try WH5 or DT

[@BrendonKPadjasek]

@@MarkDatines makes sense. Thanks for the tip!

[@MarkDatines]

@@BrendonKPadjasek or you can turn your WH4 true bypass easily. Lot of DIY on web. Me I used the EHX killswitch (named chill switch now) to loop my WH4 in a true bypass way.

[@rossward7801]

You absolutely nailed the style, here.

[@ctwilson25]

Thall 🤘

[@MidwestSadbois]

Absolutely need a full version of this one

[@quandaledingle4659]

Learned so much on this one video. 1. Never knew they reversed one guitar for that ambient sound. Immediately going to incorporate that. 2. That triplet scratch that you did. Never knew you could do that. 3. I’m new to logic and never was able to figure out how to do takes. So I always recorded and then immediately deleted to redo the take which takes for ever. 4. Definitely going to get Saturn now. 5. I never thought about using the keyboard to input the bass notes. My dumbass always put it in using the mouse for each individual note. Which also takes ages. Thank you. I’ll be referring to this video for a while. Instant sub.

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

So glad you found some useful stuff!! 🤘

[@mattkiser3997]

I love watching you make riffs. Wish I could learn.

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Thanks! You absolutely can learn!

[@Genociv]

These Milton cleans sound fuckin epic dude. I'm not that into Thall but that sounded great. Keep up the amazing work!

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Thanks so much! I had no idea this specific sound of clean guitars had a name until now 😂

[@Genociv]

@@nickbroomhallmusic John Browne did a video about these clean sounds from early Fellsilent, Monuments and stuff. They used to dial these on Pod XT Live. Great stuff, check it out!

[@Karenagy]

Dude... THALL + Elden Ring + Power Drill!! is it possible to not be PERFECT??

[@JoshuaMRichard]

Damn son, that riff was thick

[@CarlMcCann2214]

That video was very eye opening for me. Gr8 job dude. THALL

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Glad you enjoyed! Thanks dude!

[@bradeversole4081]

I love to see phenomenal stuff coming out of just a regular looking dude. You’re the musical equivalent of a sleeper car.

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

😂 Thanks bro

[@smeemusic]

First time seeing the channel. I’m recognizing your whammy issue here. I went through this and found a rock solid solution. I ended up trying the electro harmonix pitchfork + with my mission engineering expression pedal. Problem 100% solved. The pitchfork + isn’t quite as plug and play friendly as the whammy but once you get it setup you’ll be blown away. I now wonder why everyone raves about the whammy when the pitchfork does it so much better. I found the whammy having a sort of ripping sound sometimes. The pitchfork is way smoother sounding. Worth checking out

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Honestly I though of just doing it all digitally with Archetype Gojira 🤷‍♂️ I’m still happy with the Whammy though, doesn’t bother me too much. I never have it engaged unless I’m actively using it.

[@PeterCleff]

Some of the heaviest riffage I've heard in a good long while. Solid!

[@andallicansayis]

тнаааLL

[@Groteploscky]

Incredible! ♥

[@LimitlessPotential12]

You can`t help but just respect Thall...Great job man

[@JUNK_ZONE]

Love what you do, man. Also, it seems I've run into the same problem with my Whammy so, thanks for that.

[@SvenBout]

Need a full version of this on spotify

[@radstachegaming]

@2:07 the Skyrim type thing hahaha 😂

[@itspravus]

As if i wasn't already using Saturn on almost every track on my projects 😂 Man i love Fabfilter Saturn so much! Thanks for the tip man!

[@kfiotek2384]

Nick's last breath

[@malcolmrff]

That was sick. I’m gonna have to check out the saturn plugin.

[@nathancorrao8570]

For drop pedals, I use the virtual Jeff pro and with the buffer bypass, and it works amazingly well! You should give it a look.

[@Panda_SMM]

man I love rock music

[@justevan877]

been messing with that pre amp multi band saturation for a few months now and it's really just the best thing ever, it's basically letting you make a custom overdrive pedal

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

100%, I kinda want FabFilter to turn Saturn into a guitar pedal

[@metalband]

Learned so much, thanks for being visible on youtube

[@thevishyfishy]

I've been making thall style stuff for the last couple years, its so fun

[@SamBrockmann]

Don't let Big Thall win!

[@jshy3]

this is my favorite one so far

[@jasonkadyk]

Damn bro lol, that was sick. Love the drill edit 😅

[@aangovan]

Saturn is powerful, thank man, great idea!

[@matenorth]

I've been messing with pre distortion di treatment for a long time (mostly weird eq curves) but never though of saturation before. This is great.

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

EQ before the amp is also nice. I'm kinda getting the same effect with Saturn but with Saturn I can also saturate

[@zoltanfonagy339]

This was a crazy good episode

[@ZackJustice]

The drill sample was a fun touch. haha

[@johnmcintyre2123]

First time finding your channel. Sounds awesome. You got the sauce. Subscribed.

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Thanks so much!! Appreciate it!

[@elbow333]

Using saturn as a preamp/boost pedal is so smart, im gonna start doing that!

[@divinemental]

What could be happening with your whammy is that it is providing a buffer to your signal which adds clarity to the DI. I saw a video years back about doing this with any old Boss pedal and the results imo are worth having even just a boss tuner in line before you hit the preamp.

[@nowhereweareagain]

I loved the drill sample

[@hanskasperstorhaug8504]

Loved this! 😄

[@BeClayBorn]

Lotsa big brain moves on this one 😎

[@rickjames5684]

In all seriousness though, there is very little thall tutorials out there other than Andrew and Johnnys tutorial and would absolutely love to see a tutorial or even just another thall thursday here and there would be so cool. I hope to one day do a one on one sesh with you Nick. I feel like you have infinite knowledge to teach.

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Thanks for the kind words! Yeah I might continue this idea on TRT so there may be more thall to come 🤔

[@fitzlikegerald]

SICK!

[@brandongullion6353]

The face I made when you did the mastering chain playthrough and everything comes in.... good god.

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

It alway hits different when we put the chain on 🙌

[@perrtown]

More please!

[@thenoisewizard174]

Saturn before sims is amazing. I use SSL Saturation X currently too and it’s just as insane although it’s broadband, it’s still very cool!

[@ScratchBashing]

15:00 c'mon man... that rules!

[@chuckfranco8889]

brother these are usually fantastic but this one is FUCKING SICK

[@JommerMan]

Hughie, we need sick Thall riffs to drop the homelanda

[@RiffGrimez]

THICK RIFF THURSDAY HUH?…. SUBSCRIBED !

[@nicholay_mix]

I've been doing almost the same thing but with the ozone exciter before the amp sim. I definitely should try using the saturn though.

[@Coffmaestro]

As a Swede, I approve of this dip into dark heaviness

[@kettnsaeg]

that one is a really awesome

[@Grugslybugg666]

This riff is double drop C# would sound THICK

[@randallismyhandle]

THE BEES OH GOD NOT THE BEES

[@cygilimtherapper]

Which drum library do you use?

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Usually the GetGood Drums PV kit!

[@mattynes]

Must do a THALL riff once per quarter

[@declanwhite]

lol I do the saturn thing for low tuning stuff too. accidentally copied my saturn bass tone preset onto the guitar DI and it did something for me

[@prestonroberts1542]

BIG RIFF NICK

[@MilesTippett]

If you have a Whammy V, the CLASSIC mode saves your tone more, but is less polyphonic, the CHORDS mode, not only degrades your signal more, there is a bit of noticable latency.

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

Oh good catch, I didn't even think about what mode I had it on!

[@awdlee]

that shit actually went hard

[@nikolauselsner2564]

if you play cleans with whammy pedal you hear sound changes pretty good

[@JacobraRecords]

10:23 you have to wait for the loop to finish recording before hitting stop

[@EthanRom]

I used to be a mostly Decap guy, but been really enjoying Saturn more these days

[@nickbroomhallmusic]

They have very different applications but I love both!

[@lambofsean66]

Speaking of thall Thursday a band called Aaru from Iceland has been doing it for two years and it would be sick of you collabed with them a time or two

[@MATEAKENNY1234]

Didn't knew Hughie dabled in THALL

[@simon_ke]

That fckn sick bro 🔥🔥🔥

[@selfsatisfiedred]

+Härdrôck+ (sorry I had to lmfao)