To kill Lux ~6:00 mark he needed to overlap his crowd control better and weave in more auto attacks during the crowd control duration. It doesn't look like he autos in-between his root and his ultimate's stun and the root was only half done when he used his ult. Learning how to overlap crowd control to get the most bang for your buck is an important tool.
@WelsyCZ2 жыл бұрын
I believe the term youre looking for is called layering. Neace would say "better layering".
@adameves59702 жыл бұрын
@@WelsyCZ That's just a made up buzz phrase slang term. Thinking about not overlapping the duration of your CC skills is actually a more specific and direct way of conveying the same message, without some weird slangs. Most other people would call it a "cc chain" or how you "chain your cc". "overlap" or "layering" actually give the wrong message, since those words imply to stack them on top of each other, which is the complete wrong message. Something like a "chain" is actually what you're trying to accomplish. You aren't trying to "layer" anything. The most effective use is to actually have a small gap in between instances of CC, and it will also allow you to move and auto more during those time spacings.
@tvoakoshmar2 жыл бұрын
you want him to aa the barrier XDD
@chiewhoong20202 жыл бұрын
He could have e faster if the e is slight over the "center of the wall" so he closes the gap faster for aa and abilites. But it could be a trivial thing. I think weaving autos and chaining cc are important.
@chaotic24332 жыл бұрын
You smell like league of legends
@elijahvalencia32932 жыл бұрын
I like that this student is a normal dude too. He's not sitting there interrupting you over and over again to give shitty excuses or to argue. Very refreshing, great content Neace!
@guitar_george2 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! I try to be respectful, I know Neace is only trying to help me. He did an awesome job
@DukeAstoreth2 жыл бұрын
QUIN69!! Let's be loud and give excuses about everything.
@germanemigrant58442 жыл бұрын
@@guitar_george Sick name too, u a toto fan by any chance? :P
@architectsxiii53792 жыл бұрын
@@RandomUserYTisFailing you literally have no clue what you are on about dude. Tyler1 is an extremely chill and friendly person when he's not playing a character. Sounds like you got banned so now you wanna whine lol
@jinxtacy2 жыл бұрын
@@guitar_george I think you did awesome. I play like the Lux and always find myself oom. I have a lot to learn about laning and mana management. I've always been in gold but that was primarily Renekton, Mundo, Maokai, Rumble and supports so Maokai was my only laning experience with a mana champ. It funny to see someone who plays mid like me called a potato and realizing I have a lot to work on.
@guitar_george2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the coaching! I appreciate it so much
@RpiesSPIES2 жыл бұрын
You'll blow past Gold. Gl o/
@AthanaSus2 жыл бұрын
Best player on this channel. Malded at every other studnet
@korbinmdavis2 жыл бұрын
Do you in fact know all the chords, Guitar George?
@ShaddyzZz2 жыл бұрын
WP
@dslight1132 жыл бұрын
@@korbinmdavis indeed i don't think the swing gods approve if not XD
@justaguynamedjosh28882 жыл бұрын
Let's talk about the Janna drag steal at 5:16 love to see it.
@adamwyatt19022 жыл бұрын
Good observation
@WrathOfArmagaddon Жыл бұрын
That was my thought too. I just sat there staring at it. Pretty nice.
@Generic-Username2 жыл бұрын
Damn the first five minutes of farming was really satisfying to watch. He only missed 7 creeps in the first 5 minutes. He hit 85% of his first back CS and had reliable gold to play with. I wish more clients practiced this before they came to coaching.
@Kheliks2 жыл бұрын
correct but playing against the bot lux, ultra passive, that should way ease to focus farm
@benrichardson56622 жыл бұрын
17:18 that was super impressive. Probably 95% of players would have left the brush there, but he stays in cover and sure enough, his erstwhile attacker decides he's not there and leaves. Way to stay cool under fire.
@PlzDuntCensorME2 жыл бұрын
technically he did step out of the brush for like 0.01s but still impressive.
@pietiever2 жыл бұрын
His camera control seems already way better than most people in silver/gold
@AwesomeGamer551002 жыл бұрын
He has been playing since lissandra was released
@idktbh30072 жыл бұрын
He played Zac and Lissandra. He must be.
@ardechey2 жыл бұрын
I struggle without using locked screen
@timkordesh82772 жыл бұрын
His farming too. Hardly missed any
@escapetherace19432 жыл бұрын
im diamond 2 and only play locked, I've unbound the free camera button since s3
@PBandBlowtorch2 жыл бұрын
5:40 The layering of cc was definitely off as the student R'd before the W root was finished. More importatly, though, if he had led with Q into R after the root instead of ulting first, the Q likely would have been off CD at the very end to snipe the kill post Lux flash. Also the layering of the cc wasted the slow from Q as I'm pretty sure it was cast right after R.
@leuviah33402 жыл бұрын
He just had to hold his ignite a bit when she used barrier to get one more tick
@KrammerTBD2 жыл бұрын
@@leuviah3340 Band is right if u want perfect, but u r simpler and also it would work
@floreaciprian97422 жыл бұрын
Use Q sooner and hold W till after R ends. This way he could have used 1 more Q and Lux would take much longer to get under her tower
@ImpalaTamer2 жыл бұрын
Right answer
@mosleydevil362 жыл бұрын
@5:17 no one noticed the BLIND janna steal on Drake... amazing!!
@MrErikAvA2 жыл бұрын
The best thing ever is when neace is genuinely impressed, so awesome to see. And his confidence must be through the roof after this!
@staatsnoobNr12 жыл бұрын
5:43 either instantly ult into q/w ignite , or ignite after barrier pops. otherwise flash after his play was done for second auto
@finne22192 жыл бұрын
him igniting early has no effect, his instinct to ignite and neace's call to ignite were timed very close together. he just needs to practive auto weaving and cc value.
@spencershelton63302 жыл бұрын
I’m still in silver and it’s weird because I feel like he exhibits what’s typical in a lot of my games. I assume he is NA and like Neace has said NA mechanics are typically good but just not sure what to do in certain situations. I feel like if Neace is able to help him learn the thought processes that need to take place mid and late game he will rise quickly!
@guitar_george2 жыл бұрын
This perfectly describes me! You nailed it
@Barde_Jaune2 жыл бұрын
When has Neace said that? I was specifically wondering about that 'cause I feel like most of his students are from NA and they have bad mechanics, therefore NA must have worse mechanics overall.
@wilkesreid2 жыл бұрын
5:40 If he'd come into lane on her side of the wall instead of through river, he'd have had more time to auto first, w to root, q and more autos, then followed up with the ult. He might have even been able to save the e to chase if he needed to. He layered up the root times of the w and the ult and couldnt hold her as long
@mekanikaltitan2 жыл бұрын
BIG TIP THIS GAME!!!! IF YOUR WHOLE TEAM IS IN BASE MID-LATE GAME JUST GO BACK AND SYNC UP WITH THE TEAM
@TRS9452 жыл бұрын
Walk towards her tower as she's stunned/rooted to prevent her from escaping as easily. Continue auto attacking and weaving in Q's as they go off cooldown
@ambiavarice46972 жыл бұрын
love watching Neace every morning! its my new good mythical morning!
@rudeelk70422 жыл бұрын
You just brought so many memories back holy shit .
@ItsRobinWhoTalks2 жыл бұрын
Good mythical morning!
@OooEeOooAhAh2 жыл бұрын
"void next" **INCOMING SPIRIT VISAGES RED ALERT**
@simplesimp22762 жыл бұрын
delaying the ult by abit so he gets a longer cc chain, he's not bad definitely for silver just not confident in his play. Just a player who needs time to limit test and figure out stuff
@KO8E892 жыл бұрын
if i had teammates like this the chemistry would be so good. i always think "wat would neace tell me to do right now" and play the macro. still hard stuck because of my tilted mental tho
@RuecianGray2 жыл бұрын
At 5:45 he opens his combo with W>Delay>R>Q>Ignite. He held his Q and R for quite a bit before using it (at least a full second), maybe he was trying to weave in auto attacks. If he had opened the combo with an INSTANT R>Q>Ignite, it would have prevented lux from using her Q and since R stuns instead of roots, he could reposition to W right before/after lux's inevitable flash. By using Q earlier, it would have likely been up for another cast at the end of his combo if he spreads his CC out just a little more efficiently. The only thing that prevented him from getting the kill was that he took lux's Q to the face when he could have started his combo with R and not been rooted. Lux's barrier and flash wouldn't have mattered if he had been able to reposition.
@jordanbachmann70022 жыл бұрын
If he ignites immediately, he gets more ignite ticks before lux can hit barrier
@eduardoayala32042 жыл бұрын
1722: The little chuckle xD so relatable. It really did feel like that.
@azuquadros28382 жыл бұрын
Its crazy how good someone can be when they listen to the coach they payed for. This is the the reality of neace coaching.
@eduardoayala32042 жыл бұрын
Neace, 14:09 , "it's pretty easy to get out of this". Me, watching: Uhm.... UHMMM.... 14:21: They actually played it well too Me: Bro my heart can barely withstand this
@KaZlos2 жыл бұрын
If he hold ignite after lux barriers he kills her, also if he q right away he would have second one to finish her - he would walk up behind minion and q instead last auto attack
@razorbboy2 жыл бұрын
This dude Is Better than the lissandras I usually meet in D2/D1. If you read this, Just onetrick the champ. You'll climb.
@autokrft2 жыл бұрын
Lissandra is objectively a shit champ though. If he finds lissandra really fun though then sure it'd be a good idea to one trick her in low elo. The way this guy was playing, if he picked a champion that was B tier or above, he'd climb faster
@vladislavkaras4912 жыл бұрын
Great video! I actually learned a lot of this video. Do not look at enemy items, if your team already have a lot of ad/ap, rush for penetration. And also, depending on the pick, you must either play the game slow or force fights. Thanks for the video, Neace!
@eduardoayala32042 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's a nightmare scenario. It's like having an aggressive dinosaur captured but the jail it's about to be teared apart. Because it's a fucking dinosaur. So you kinda wonder do I sit here and try to capture him again, but how? Or do I try to run away before it shreds me. If it doesn't die, it's literally your turn to move and lose.
@Kajmasz2 жыл бұрын
6:00 - after E should start with Q and chain cc her with W and R so our Q is back up. During cc we can even AA her one or two times before our Q is up.
@Ryucopasetic2 жыл бұрын
This dudes awesome. He actually listens
@brett27582 жыл бұрын
Layer the cc. For liss its E in, Q, auto,ignite, R, auto (orb walk), auto, auto, another q if its back in time
@NoMoreForYou122 жыл бұрын
After he e'd in he needed to q + quto, then ult, which would give his q long enough to come off cd again and extend his combo
@leotsujimoto59262 жыл бұрын
Lux doesn’t heal, but the damage from ignite was absorbed by barrier. He could have killer her by holding ignite until barrier came down, or on the tail end of it.
@MrOvergryph2 жыл бұрын
15:06 should have been an IMMEDIATE Stopwatch use since Summoner Spells were down and the student had a bounty of his own to protect. Would have easily outplayed Aatrox there.
@chrishaddock52342 жыл бұрын
Really wish Neace would add a logo in corner of the thumbnail for he role the video is focusing on. Would make it easier to find videos based on learning goals. Still love it all the same
@Michelino_M52 жыл бұрын
The way he gets the kill is by not overlapping R stun with W root, instead going for an AA while the W is still in effect. After that you can micro other stuff like walking towards her tower in between spells to maybe squeeze in one more auto even.
@justoalvarez39402 жыл бұрын
You can tell Neace was having fun
@adamhabibi36202 жыл бұрын
idk if you check this comment , but when lissandra is bursting lux she obviously will barrier , he either should have ignited FIRST thing , which i dont recommend , or wait untik she uses barrier then ignite cause ignite outlast# barrier or his usage of ignite made her tank 70% of it while it usually wouldve only blocked 40% 50% of it , id say its his ignite usage , shouldve either ignited FIRST or LAST
@deusredux2 жыл бұрын
In a lot of the later team fights I think the student could stand to be more decisive throwing R. He doesn’t recognize when he’s in a position to cc lock the kayn or aatrox out of drain tanking fast enough. Maybe needs a bit stronger understanding of when they’re looking to use big CDs to heal and he’s in a position to preempt it
@wowwt2 жыл бұрын
Weave more between the sides of minion waves during Q cd to make it easier to dodge poke and if Lux uses E it's only hitting a small amount of minions compared to the entire wave.
@lullabyu61522 жыл бұрын
Id invite this guy back for a free coaching oncw in a while. Truly promising
@northlord804 Жыл бұрын
Also ulting yourself into zhonyas can be very powerful in team fights.
@Yan_mrz2 жыл бұрын
5:30 he either could’ve ignited earlier during the great burst, she probably wouldn’t have time to react to all the abilities pressed at the same time and an ignite 0,5 or 1 sec earlier was enough to kill her if she didn’t instant barrier.
@SuzukiChen2 жыл бұрын
5:40 no aa's at all, only 1 during combo: he did E+W+AA+R+ignite+Q. Could do E+AA+Q+AA(q aa reset for electro)+W(lux is 100% in range, cause she stops to cast root+slowed)+ingnite+AA+AA+R+AA+AA+Q to the back if she still survives (this is how I would've played it, yes ignite into barrier, most likely like the guy did, but still, I'm pretty sure that would've killed).. Run theory in practice tool- ye should be a kill around 1200-1378 damage max depending on rune choice and execution ofc, higher with "scorch", but "transcendence" is fine too, just need to move a bit in-between "last" 4 aa's and R as u want to hug her after root on you expires. (lux has around 942 hp and 40 mr)
@eduardoayala32042 жыл бұрын
5:15 BRO THAT JANNA REALLY STOLE IT WITH TORNADO
@minombreesirrelevante44072 жыл бұрын
5:43 "Lissandra" is an anagram of "Sir Sandal"
@lizpark98542 жыл бұрын
I think pink ward usage is dependent on elo. Spending 150 gold for two pink wards in that elo, when vision isn’t really being contested, is a huge waste imo. People don’t even know how important vision is in silver/gold 😅
@hatakekakashi32282 жыл бұрын
I'm silver and my mates never have vision outside of support
@gabrielmoore31042 жыл бұрын
If he just waited half a second to walk in range of his e, that extra damage would’ve been lethal.
@CrashdummyX2 жыл бұрын
To get the kill: E > Ignite > Auto > R > Auto > Q > Auto > W > Auto
@Mairdrin2 жыл бұрын
this is what happens when students actually listen instead of questioning everything or hesitating! to be fair though, i'd probably hesitate a lot too.
@voltiolord571232 жыл бұрын
To kill at around 630~ go E R auto q w auto Ignite somewhere, it doesn't have a cast time so it really doesn't matter when. Ideally after her barrier, though. TLDR: Layer cc better and weave autos
@AustiuNoMatterWho2 жыл бұрын
I figured out why we all move so weird. Lux was and still is a Staple of the Low elo champ pool in 2 of the 3 lanes. Mind Blown
@dannymerov2 жыл бұрын
there was 1 cs under tower on that first kill attempt so since he didnt have turret agro, he coulve walked in under tower after lux untill the shield dropped and then auto her for the kill with the ignite ticking as the 1 cs couldve tanked 1 more tower hit.
@TehhDann2 жыл бұрын
5:18 Janna steals drag with q lol, how did they not comment on that 😂😂😂
@TheIFunnyMan Жыл бұрын
I am not familiar with the details of 50% of the champions' kits in league, but from the 8 years of moba experience i have elsewhere and knowing lux kit quite well, its obvious that she is looking to Q immediately when shes trying to get away. There's no reason to not anticipate that response and side step left or right. That would have made that kill almost trivial getting to auto her even one more time. Probably could get 2 autos on her depending on how long the cc lasts relative to the atk spd on this champ
@ivantheterrible29672 жыл бұрын
u know you swagging when neace dont shout
@silveraddict55262 жыл бұрын
free coaching man.. literally thanks for these videos
@MixalisEam2 жыл бұрын
to kill lux he had to spamm Q more, he used Q late because he thought cc chain was better than dmg, but in reality using W+Q+R was the better answer instead of W+R+Q thus giving Q a longer CD.
@simonvargas82642 жыл бұрын
Really good for a silver! Good camera control and listened well. Zhonya needed work, that comes with using the item more
@joshuacox58172 жыл бұрын
Play fiddlesticks for zhonyas practice
@andrews9602 жыл бұрын
Ult into auto Q W ignite would've killed. Ignite after she barriers, not before because that extra burn damage would burn off a little of her shield at the end & kept burning her, rather than burning her a little and then the rest of the burn going towards the shield.
@adamdecoder12 жыл бұрын
I agree he played pretty well for his level. But honestly that lux would make most players look insane
@XGIcey2 жыл бұрын
rly good focus on ur end neace, great coaching.
@SkillOPill2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see another lissandra main trying to get out of silver. Good job bro!
@viperdragon35lol62 жыл бұрын
If your a Liss main also check out my highlights and replays currently trying to leave silver kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5jYgY1vptqVjKc
@mladennedeljkovic16942 жыл бұрын
He cancelled 2 autos, don't think they would matter anyways because barrier would just eat it. He also used w before r+q combo instead of r+q+auto+w+auto, would be mutch smoother and maybe get more damage trough barrier so ignite tick kills her, not sure if it kis but certainly gets you that auto that he cancelled earlier + it makes it so he can walk infront of her between basics while she is cced so he could probably get another auto off without flash. But at that point flash auto would be still good because it gets his lane ahead and he is neutral with her sums.
@user-qb4on2qm7z Жыл бұрын
My knowledge of League and rotations have improved so much after I started watching Neace and one other dude. If you wanna learn adc I would suggest playing Aphelios in norms. You are forced to perfect your cs and positioning or you're useless. Best champ to learn the role. Edit: the other guy is coach blaker
@Tom_Book2 жыл бұрын
To kill at 6:00, he could have actually gone for another aa if he hard committed (instead of walking back straight after shooting that last aa) and then flashed through the wall into the raptors to get away with it. Keep the flash to save yourself, not to kill and then die.
@humbaby25162 жыл бұрын
Dragon steal by Janna lmaooo 5:15
@Ukoog2 жыл бұрын
At 5:50 he should have walked up with the minion instead of autoing, armor creep takes 2 tower shots and since he has boots it allows him to use his Q and walk away
@Tiger4ever892 жыл бұрын
at 5:53 if he walked towards her deeper he could have killed her with one more auto ( that would mean he will have to burn his flash to stay alive from the turret shoots) but if he started with autos earlier, probably she would have died faster too without the need to burn his flash
@morthenbruland53972 жыл бұрын
he simply made the beginner mistake of every liss player panic W so they can ult what he should have done is either look for a little better positioning so the E would have hit aswell (pretty ahrd tho) or simply play better with the W, either E->W->Q->AA-> ult and then move betweeen her and tower so u use the cc most efective and have cds back when the ult ends or use w to prolong the cc after the ult.
@6u4t762 жыл бұрын
After E engage instantly cast R >Q then AA and then use W when the stun wears off
@DJAlphaOmega2 жыл бұрын
Igniting after barrier pops would've been a safer better. If I'm wrong, I believe the answer would be the opposite of igniting early?
@risendeadzz82382 жыл бұрын
5:44 if lissandra just used E threw wall more and early canceled it to be placed infront of lux and instantly R'd her instead of rooting then R it would of made it so lux couldnt cast Q in time so he could kite in towards tower for an extra auto attack, although lux may have just w'd and lived.
@blankspace64862 жыл бұрын
E > R > Q > W > AA > Ignite
@SunKenRains2 жыл бұрын
For the fight mid at 5 50, if she had auto attacked before bursting her down with R she would've killed her since it was before her Barrier.
@RevDany232 жыл бұрын
this is what i have to deal with every game. Teams just inting over and over, actually uncarryable games
@paladin109gaming22 жыл бұрын
he was playing very well for a silver, the only mechanically thing it's he used r only on enemys, in some situations he could've used r on himself, it s same damage if u ult enemy's or urself.
@MrNocturne2602 жыл бұрын
5:50 instead of stopping for an auto he could have walked at her and waited for the q cooldown.
@wolfer73832 жыл бұрын
Don't know why you get hate from comments, specially from tiktok as i've seen. You are coaching. And people are hating you for telling them what they do wrong. People need to understand even the small mistakes can makes a difference, and be the reason you see victory instead of defeat. Atleast, i enjoy your content, Neace. Keep it up, great video. And a great player for being silver! He gonna climb for sure if he takes his lessons with him for future games.
@SuperDroll2 жыл бұрын
13m, 114 farm, this dude's crushing it as Liss
@filmrecorder57172 жыл бұрын
Quick question, A lot of my friends and people tell me if you’re the hard carry you shouldn’t be building things like anti heal. Is this always the case though? Or in situations like this into a Kayn and aatrox you kind of need it yourself anyways? Thanks
@Kampsycho2 жыл бұрын
At 28:00 where you tsof died, then flash the Lux Q or be so close she misses it, those 2 would of died And since Vex is the one who feared him making him unable to E over and flank the Jinx, she could of popped her aswell. Ofcourse this is in hinsight, but Vex really was 1 Q or W away from death and he had F & Zhonyas, so could of gotten a triple potentially if not double for sure. Dank Video though.
@eon23302 жыл бұрын
If he rooted her then autoed then walked under tower he could self ult and would ultimately not need to cc chain correctly or waste summoner. Sure cc chaining would be effective but lux has nothing but her root. She can't escape anyway. He can kill her with autos alone without the tower. He could have ignited slightly later as a finisher instead of during the initial burst. He also technically could have casually walked behind her waited to be binded then used e to close the gap after. Had like 5 ways to kill her.
@DawsonVonDarkcastle2 жыл бұрын
the Zack screen and then the lasandra?! That's exactly when I started playing too!!
@patatedrer62992 жыл бұрын
You can AA between W and R if timed.
@aris6032 жыл бұрын
5:40 she warded the bush when he took the plant cause she is passive and on map she walked in lane near the wall so she warded it that time prob.i would walk behind the wall where he came before and sneak her out.lux was already too deep in lane.start with Q ,W w8 lux flash R her Auto ,Q and when Rs out W .walk her in tower to finish her of and ignite.get out of tower with E
@leightonz92452 жыл бұрын
If he held ignite and waited for barrier, he could've followed under their turret with the minion aggro for the ignite + auto kill
@Lou-C2 жыл бұрын
I don't play Lissandra but if Neace told me to force the fight I would R + Ignite the second I got in range then follow up with the rest of her kit.
@Yan_mrz2 жыл бұрын
Or 5:30 just hold on the ignite a tiny bit more to let one more tick and get the kill (let the barrier disappear a bit more)
@yoanivanov78362 жыл бұрын
If he waited for the barrier to drop he might have killed her.
@anhoang29172 жыл бұрын
ok about the fight at 5:45 he use his E W and that is fine. After that HE SHOULD AA and then ult because of the stun from W she cant get away and after that just Q-AA-ignite and its done. Overall, he miss the kill by just 1 auto attack :)
@sylverdobbigaming89422 жыл бұрын
all he needed was one single auto between two spells. example, ult auto q and she dies off the ignite. the cc could have been layered better, but, wasn't as relevant as the auto. but either would have secured the kill.
@whereshatchbacksport12 жыл бұрын
i was thinking other than the abilities perspective of use combo, more like when he uses liss dash(which is e?) since his dash reaches anyways he couldve waited in the brush for the potential that there wasnt any vision instead of showing and telling self and i think it mightved ended differently cause if i recall correctly it seemed that when liss appeared on mid she walked towards the center of lane and more away from the e? it also could provide a element of surprise vs just tellign on urself and she mightve reacted a bit late with flash barrier?
@HippyCheez112 жыл бұрын
Idk if u can barrier if she Rd first then ignite. That and he could of orb walked forward more during his R on the all in .he just left a small gap in his combo on the first possible kill.
@lorenpuszti85242 жыл бұрын
5:45 would kill with Auto Attack cancels
@fourskin4232 жыл бұрын
that janna steal lmfaooooooooo
@Scuttlist2 жыл бұрын
Great mid game. Wish my silver mids would play like this
@octavioavila6548 Жыл бұрын
What are these titles meant to imply? "Maybe it's me. Maybe I am also a silver player who is the best Neace has seen which would imply that I actually deserve to be higher elo which validates my complaints about my teammates holding me back and when my worldview is validated I feel cozy inside. Hence, I will click on this video for the title has made me feel cozy feelings that validate my world view"
@Soarizen2 жыл бұрын
5:45 couldn't have killed there without flash unless e hit, really impressed with the instant and repeated autos
@thierrydebrunhoff58692 жыл бұрын
If he layered the cc correctly he‘d easily kill without flash