Nema17, 3D Printed Strain Wave Gear (Harmonic Drive)

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ZeroBacklash

ZeroBacklash

Күн бұрын

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@haenselundgretel654
@haenselundgretel654 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Putting the bearing balls around the input gear is awesome and saves a lot of space! THIS is what I was waiting for for two years now! Cheers!
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
I am happy, people get inspired about this stuff ;) Thanks Haensel.
@mrraimundo130
@mrraimundo130 2 жыл бұрын
This is easily the most professional and beutiful design of a 3D printed strain wave gearbox. I would like to print my own.
@nicholasziglio
@nicholasziglio 2 жыл бұрын
Really nicely done! Best 3D printed one I've seen on YT!
@iBlue0riginal
@iBlue0riginal 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive to say the least. I am very much looking forward to the release of the STLs. Keep up the good work!
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you switch!
@iancockrell5920
@iancockrell5920 Жыл бұрын
The best DIY harmonic drive I've seen. Just downloaded from the link :)
@The101Superman
@The101Superman 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see them in action
@Terrestre1
@Terrestre1 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice design. It's simple, compact and effective. Congratulations
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Terrestre :)
@googleyoutubechannel8554
@googleyoutubechannel8554 Ай бұрын
For anyone wondering, this is still the best low-cost 3d printed reducer for a nema 17 - well worth the price for the design, very printable and professional.
@Mr.Thermistor7228
@Mr.Thermistor7228 28 күн бұрын
I am going to use 3 of these as my z axis to raise and lower my bed. Just gotta figure out the mountjng solution and belt solution
@GregMatoga
@GregMatoga 23 күн бұрын
So how many Nm you're getting?
@googleyoutubechannel8554
@googleyoutubechannel8554 21 күн бұрын
@@GregMatoga enough that the strength of the material at spline tooth scales is the limiting factor, it's basically the only critical thing, also keep in mind threads rip out of PLA or whatever at like 5nm torque so...
@lucasarnulphy1185
@lucasarnulphy1185 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing, as always ! I’m a software developer and I’m really excited to start creating softwares for your machine, especially for video capture.
@tobiastho9639
@tobiastho9639 2 жыл бұрын
Video sounds better at x1,25 speed... good work!
@ivprojects8143
@ivprojects8143 2 жыл бұрын
Great looking design! It would be great to see some testing, such as the torque, backlash and reliability after many hours of running.
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi @IV Projects, Its planned in the agenda :) in the coming videos, thanks for your comment ;)
@sandoftimeh
@sandoftimeh 2 жыл бұрын
What can I say? Your design is sooooooo impressive! As always!
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sandoftime :)
@snapo1750
@snapo1750 2 жыл бұрын
damn i would have never tought to use bearing balls.... amazing idea!
@MrGlentved
@MrGlentved 2 жыл бұрын
Best 3d printed design I have seen. I hope you release the stl files, I would love to make one :)
@keenheat3335
@keenheat3335 2 жыл бұрын
There is a similar type of gear called ferguson's paradox gear that behave almost exactly like strain wave gear. But without needing to use a flex spline. All three components are solid and fixed. It also have similar high reduction ratio as a strain wave gear. Essentially it's compose of two outer ring gears with one ring that has one more gear teeth than the other align co-axially. Then there is one smaller planet gear nested within that rotate with the input shaft. The two outer ring gears have tooth of slightly different sizes, when the planet gear came into contact with the two outer ring gears, it push the gear teeth together one side and push it away slightly on the other side. The gear ratio of this system is = number_of_teeth_in_ring_gear_1 / (number_of_teeth_in_ring_gear_1 - number_of_teeth_in_ring_gear_2) , so if you have 51 tooth in ring 1 and 52 tooth in ring 2, you get a reduction ratio of 51. Ferugson paradox gear is easier to make than strain wave gear, since there is no need for flex spline. And second advantage is that the gear tooth pressure angle can be lower compare to strain wave, which lead to greater gear efficiency.
@bschwand
@bschwand 2 жыл бұрын
that seems to be a variation on a cycloid drive or I am not visualizing this right ok sorry got it. not cycloidal at all but also plays on some tolerances, basically the gears do not mesh completely right.
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi @Keen Heat, thanks for your comment. I did not know about the existence of this type of gear. It seems very interesting, mainly because having a difference of one tooth between both gears, the ratio is double than strain wave gear, but keep in mind being able to reduce the size of the main gears, you still need to add the planetary gear, which also is a lot of space. Do you know if ferguson's gear has only one planetary? Because if thats the case you can get a lot of vibrations at high frequencies, since the system is not mechanically balanced. On the other hand, I don't know how this type of reduction would behave, in terms of backlash. As the gears are solid, I suppose that the backlash could not be completely eliminated.
@bschwand
@bschwand 2 жыл бұрын
You can have several planetaries There are animations on youtube
@dekutree64
@dekutree64 2 жыл бұрын
The original Ferguson's paradox doesn't mesh quite right (poor efficiency), but if you adjust the module/pitch of the two halves then it does. This is called compound planetary gear, and there are many examples on youtube. You can mix and match different planet/ring tooth counts to get a wide variety of output ratios, and even drive it via the carrier which eliminates the loss of the sun-planet interaction and creates a through-hole for wires in a robot arm, but results in higher RPM of the planet gears. Cycloidal drive is a closely related mechanism where the eccentric functions as the carrier, but it uses a different output method which is only possible due to the one tooth difference between ring and disc, and allows you to get relatively high reduction in a single stage. It is possible to make a split ring cycloidal with different pin counts and two discs of different lobe count glued together like a compound planet, but it has a lot of inherent problems. The big advantage of strain wave is that the flexible component allows it to be true zero-backlash. Cycloidals can get pretty close, but only if machined extremely precisely, so unless you have a lot of money it will have backlash like any other gearbox.
@GregorShapiro
@GregorShapiro Жыл бұрын
A drawback of the Fergusons paradox is that only a few teeth are contact at any time while the strain wave has very many distributing the stress and thus the strain wave can transmit much more torque in a smaller package. The symmetry of the strain wave is a decided advantage as well.
@eelcohoogendoorn8044
@eelcohoogendoorn8044 2 жыл бұрын
This type is my favorite DIY reducer. I wonder how they would stack up against regular harmonic drives if made professionally; if you had a nice cast urethane flex spline with embedded kevlar weave to transfer the torque, I imagine the torque density could be quite competitive, and it should be cheaper to mass produce than notoriously finicky metal splines. Also not the most inaccessible DIY project, to try a cast urethane version.
@eelcohoogendoorn8044
@eelcohoogendoorn8044 2 жыл бұрын
Also; my intuition would be that given a much more flexy configuration than a metal cup closed on one end, much bigger teeth would be viable and more appropriate for this kind of setup, to get more torque out of the softer materials. Is tooth size something youve tried to optimize for yet?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Eelco, thanks for your input. The tooth size is as small as possible to get the higher ratio without skipping teeth.
@eelcohoogendoorn8044
@eelcohoogendoorn8044 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ZeroBacklashRobotics Sure, bigger ratios means smaller teeth. But 30/31 would be the same as 60/62, no? Bigger teeth should mean bigger peak output torque, all else being equal. An open ended spline like this, made from a flexy material like urethane, should be able to accomodate quite big flex amplitudes, accomodating nice and deep teeth, and high torques. Curious how much torque youd be able to get out of teeth of this size!
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
@Eelco, its not the same, with 30/32 teeth you will get more torque indeed, because your wide teeth can increase with the same perimeter, but your ratio will decrease to 15:1, to get the same ratio increasing teeth there is no other way to increase the diameter size of your splines.
@eelcohoogendoorn8044
@eelcohoogendoorn8044 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics I said 30/31 but yeah you need 2 tooth difference with 2 contact points I suppose. Or do you? If the spline had two sections with a one-tooth offset between the sections, that should work I think? Like 30/32 -> 31/33
@gerokatseros
@gerokatseros 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!!! Brilliant! Can't wait for the STL files :)
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@keysimfr
@keysimfr 2 жыл бұрын
Super compact / friction free design. I have seen a lot of similar Strain Wave Gear, but never that good ! Great job, need stls !
@mosher2302
@mosher2302 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like ideal solution for Voron V2 Z-Drives
@Mr.Thermistor7228
@Mr.Thermistor7228 28 күн бұрын
Exactly what im thinking. Or trident with belted z, or lead screw could work to. Have you done it to your voron z axis?
@rbyt2010
@rbyt2010 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice! It would be interesting to see load current on the motor with and without the HD.
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
That would be a good check yes. To see how much current takes to move all the stuff.
@StrangerReason
@StrangerReason 2 жыл бұрын
I think it goes without saying, to really appreciate this video you have to enable CC, and turn the volume down completely.
@marklee_2209
@marklee_2209 Жыл бұрын
A really clean and compact drive! Love it!
@himanshujadonone
@himanshujadonone 2 жыл бұрын
Getting into more detail with each vedio
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Yees, thats the idea ;)
@himanshujadonone
@himanshujadonone 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics thanku for inspiring and sharing ..... Very detailed work
@dylanpendlebury23
@dylanpendlebury23 2 жыл бұрын
Great design. Top notch
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dylan!
@dylanpendlebury23
@dylanpendlebury23 2 жыл бұрын
Have you gathered any performance metrics yet? Max holding and dynamic torque, stiction, backlash? I'm trying to benchmark my own printed actuators against this, lol Edit.. also, the holy grail of features... Is it backdrivable?
@muhamadaditiya297
@muhamadaditiya297 2 жыл бұрын
Best design👍🏻 good job
@gernader8
@gernader8 2 жыл бұрын
Can you publish the STLs on Thingiverse or Printables? This is a great compact drive!
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@phillipcoplen8051
@phillipcoplen8051 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics booooo
@teslastellar
@teslastellar 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent design 👍
@SimonLindauer
@SimonLindauer 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful and clever construction! I agree with what others have said already (I still say it tho :P), the ball-bearing-flex-spline combination is a such great idea.
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, thank you, I loved the idea from first time it came into my mind :)
@SimonLindauer
@SimonLindauer 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics hehehe.. now you got me wondering about variations of that design.. maybe the ball bearings could become the flex-spline by themselfes.. hmmmmm.. *thinking in progress* :D
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Simon, don’t get your point of view 🧐 what exactly you mean?
@SimonLindauer
@SimonLindauer 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics I struggle a bit to put that thought in proper english words but let's give it a try. I had that funny idea yesternight that a row of balls could act as a flex-spline.. one ball pushing the other so they go around (like they already do).. but with enough clearence to travel a little outside/inside. So, in a way they could be seen as a flexible material.. Then I thought, what if teeth were not tooth-shaped but of circular (or speherical) shape.. which, maybe, could lead to a design like yours.. but without the flex-spline itself, if that makes any sense. Anyways, I tried to scribble something down yesterday and now I think it might been a silly idea (things either have way too much clearance or completely blocking each other). I struggle a bit describing what I'm thinking about. However I might try to scribble another variation of it tonight or tomorrow and if that looks any bit more promising, I might drop you a link here (if that's ok with you) :)
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
@Simon Lindauer I know what you mean, but this would not work. Because flex spline acts as one unique component so is pushed and pulled every 90 degrees. Using the balls as teeth will work only in the fase that the oval hub is pushing but not when is pulling, because the balls are not linked each other so they behave like independent components. So It will be risky to have the ball stuck because is not pulling back. I don’t know if explained well xD
@RoboCNCnl
@RoboCNCnl 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool job !!!
@naoanya
@naoanya 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant design!! I printed your design and it works pretty well. Thanks🥰
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing naoa :)
@manojguha2046
@manojguha2046 Жыл бұрын
@ZeroBacklash Thank you so much for your effort in designing and showing the operation. I have pushed your CAD files. I have one request , can you please upload the STEP model of the full gearbox model ? Since the parts are in stl format , it is difficult to modify or edit or parts or to use it in any assembly.
@adriangrzelak1451
@adriangrzelak1451 2 жыл бұрын
I am most interested in how much the backlash is. Have you checked?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Adrian, after printing the flex spline I could say the first hours is pretty good, almost not noticeable. But since its done in PLA with intensive work gets deformed a bit and can have a bit of backlash. I didn’t try with other materials, nylon will improve a lot I think.
@projecthivemind3239
@projecthivemind3239 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics Is there a safe operating load, where the deformation doesn't happen (or is much slower)?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi @ProjectHivemind I didn’t measure at that level, but If I try to move the axis is quite stuck. Visually is difficult to see it. You need to apply a lot of torque to see something.
@lampnikpl5212
@lampnikpl5212 2 жыл бұрын
Great work! Would love to build one for myself.
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@MishinMachine
@MishinMachine 2 жыл бұрын
Great design! 👍 is it backdrivable?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
No Mishin, it would break PLA before it moves.
@tuskiomisham
@tuskiomisham 2 жыл бұрын
This is really neat! Did you print the spline, or make it from something else?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi @wow all is 3D printed, 0.4 mm nozzle in PLA.
@fisch747
@fisch747 Жыл бұрын
Is very compact but it has some backlash in theory because the output has the same amount of teeth but has to be bigger due to the oval flex spline right? I think that’s why they are not used more often also not as much teeth can be engaged or dont line up properly compared to „normal“ HD.
@johnbush8224
@johnbush8224 Жыл бұрын
I've purchased the stl files and printed with great success. Thank you. Is it possible to get the STEP files? I can convert STL into STEP and bring into CAD but the number of surfaces are insane.
@bschwand
@bschwand 2 жыл бұрын
if the flexible spline has the same number of teeth as the fixed spline, but a smaller diameter, it means the teeth on the flex spline are smaller and are not meshing right isn't it ? How can this work, just because of the extra space between teeth ? It just seems this only works because of imprecision in the manufacturing, doesn't it ?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
@bschwand, what you say is correct. Due to the intrinsic design this cannot be otherwise, the teeth of the flexible ellipse have to be slightly smaller. This difference is practically negligible. The diameter is slightly reduced but the height of the teeth remains the same, so the deformation only occurs in the width of the tooth and not in the height. Given the module of these teeth 0.8, this difference is imperceptible and does not affect the operation. If we were talking about a real metal strain wave gear, we would be talking about something else since the tolerances are lower, but since this is PLA doesn't affect.
@bschwand
@bschwand 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics ok so this really works because of the inherent flex and give that the material allows, and would be impractical with, say all stainless steel parts. Got it.
@MrJohnDoe-bx5cp
@MrJohnDoe-bx5cp 2 ай бұрын
Hey i was wondering what kind of motor driver do you use?
@kolimoli8825
@kolimoli8825 3 ай бұрын
How long would the flex spline printed from pla last?
@Lucas_sGarage
@Lucas_sGarage 2 жыл бұрын
Great design, would u mind sharing the stls/step?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@i-make-robots
@i-make-robots 9 ай бұрын
When you say the flex spline is smaller than the outside 60... how much smaller? how did you find the right size?
@BooBar2521
@BooBar2521 2 жыл бұрын
What a nice design. Will you release the stls or sell them in some way?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@BooBar2521
@BooBar2521 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics thank alot for sharing this files! For some reason I can't load the website. Is there something wrong with the server?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Mmm I’ve just tried and in my phone is working..
@BooBar2521
@BooBar2521 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics yeah you are ri8it works for me as well
@markosantic7462
@markosantic7462 2 жыл бұрын
Great project! I 3D printed (all parts with PETG) based on your design but found flex spline too rigid. It even split in two after forcing it... Did you print flex spline with another filament?
@redkaribou8102
@redkaribou8102 Жыл бұрын
He used PLA, have a look at the link in the description for all printing settings
@Insane_Kane
@Insane_Kane 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. I know you dont release files, but could you give us the modulus and scale factors for the teeth profiles ?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Insane, modulus is 0.8 what do you mean with scale factor?
@Insane_Kane
@Insane_Kane 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ZeroBacklashRobotics The flexspline and second stage ring need to be scaled a little bit so the teeth mesh right ?
@kevinchang9995
@kevinchang9995 Жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRoboticsI'm also curious about how you create smaller diameters with the same teeth, I think it will affect the module of the flexspline, right?
@i-make-robots
@i-make-robots 2 жыл бұрын
gorgeous. why the first bearing? what is the output torque?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, the bearing is to keep centered the movable circular spline, I didn’t measure the torque, theoretical torque, motor is 39 Ncm x 30 ratio = 11,7 Nm but on top we need to add the efficiency, which is not measured. And taking into consideration is plastic PLA will be lower I would say 50% so I would guess around 5-6 Nm.
@ryanmckenna2047
@ryanmckenna2047 Жыл бұрын
If the flex spline doesn't even move then how do it spin the output??
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics Жыл бұрын
Hi @ryanmckenna2047, because the dynamic circular spline (end axis) has 2 teeth more that the flex spline. That produces the moment.
@ryanmckenna2047
@ryanmckenna2047 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, not sure what happened with my grammar there 😅 oddly mine spins now but in the same direction as the input, it should be spinning in the opposite direction. What am I doing wrong?
@5Breaker
@5Breaker 2 жыл бұрын
That music and that computer voice. Immediately thought of a scam... sadly there's no (official) visible dislike count anymore.
@astolfigiuliano
@astolfigiuliano 10 ай бұрын
Hi, I found your harmonic reducers very interesting, I would be interested in buying the files, but first I would like to ask you if they can withstand radial loads such as the tension of a toothed belt applied to a pulley system
@MrDerterminator1992
@MrDerterminator1992 2 жыл бұрын
very impressive to see such a compact design which seems to have a lot of torque. @ZeroBacklash: is it planed to release the stl files for this build or make a video on how you designed the drive? I would highly appreciate this :)
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@gordon6029
@gordon6029 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics I’m not in need of these Stl files right now but if I was I would pay north of $50 for them. To show my support I will be buying them and I would hope every other subscriber would as well. I feel you are selling yourself short, charge more.
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks @gordon6029 much appreciated. Unfortunately not all people think like you. I know is low price… But want to keep it as affordable as possible for most of my subscribers. Thanks again for your support :)
@ryanmckenna2047
@ryanmckenna2047 Жыл бұрын
What does "half" mean in half movement circular spline?
@krgteachengineering9424
@krgteachengineering9424 2 жыл бұрын
Great project sir. Can you share the step files. ???
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@ex1tium
@ex1tium 2 жыл бұрын
I could think a lot of use cases for this. Will you release plans sometime?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@ex1tium
@ex1tium 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics Thanks! I'm building simple star tracking motor for old equatorial mount for astrophotography. This might have some use. Cool project and keep on posting!
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to you @ex1tium to support ZeroBacklash channel :)
@ex1tium
@ex1tium 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics I've just started learning mechanics and the math side of engineering. I've always just winged it when designing something in Fusion360 but this is the first time I actually need to do precision. Your way of using bearing balls was very cool!
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Happy you like it 😎
@nivedkrishna8212
@nivedkrishna8212 11 ай бұрын
Will I get everything if I buy it from 3d cult or only the 3d printer file
@robertodelacruzgonzalez3741
@robertodelacruzgonzalez3741 6 ай бұрын
what filament is the flex spine made of?
@tambemsouhype
@tambemsouhype Жыл бұрын
Great! Really nice and compact. I’m trying to figure out how to create a camera slider with a 3-axis, and this harmonic driver can be helpful in my project. Just for curiosity, I saw in another video on your channel a driver to know the exact position of the stepper motor. Is it possible to use both on a 3-axis camera slider project, or seem too much engineering?
@yadavkrishna5488
@yadavkrishna5488 11 ай бұрын
Will I get the item if I bought it from cult 3d of just the printing files
@VeselinDanchev
@VeselinDanchev 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, what is the steel balls diameter? Thank you in advance! best
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Veselin 5mm diameter ;)
@ytshortchannel224
@ytshortchannel224 Жыл бұрын
I bought the model but the belt don’t fit the exncloser. Can you please help me?
@mosher2302
@mosher2302 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Will you share files and components list?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description, there you find the STL's, list component and explode view assembly: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@ondrejhajny230
@ondrejhajny230 3 ай бұрын
Hi, cani ask what torque can it handle? :)
@2DragonFreak
@2DragonFreak 2 жыл бұрын
How do change the gear size? If you have to have the same number of tooth in the static and flex gear you have to change the module. Won't that introduce some losses?
@johnbush8224
@johnbush8224 2 жыл бұрын
Is the flexible spline printed with same PLA, or a flexible filament?
@jimmy0tran
@jimmy0tran 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to purchase your model on Cults3D but their login seems to be down. Do you have the files up on anywhere else?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi @jaytee0108, did it work finally?
@jimmy0tran
@jimmy0tran 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics Yes, I eventually was able to login and download it. Thank.
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Great! Thanks ;)
@mvadu
@mvadu 2 жыл бұрын
Does the flex spline hold up to the forces without splitting in half (along where the circular hub meets the spline? The ball bearings with oval hub is a genius ide BTW.. Out of all DIY harmonic wave gears I have seen
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi mvadu, thanks for your comment. The flex spline is holding yes, but I didnt push to the limit yet, but first tests went quite well.
@nicholasziglio
@nicholasziglio 2 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, is this something new you are testing or have you been using them already in the robot arm? Also, have you or do you plan on testing it for durability? The other ones I have seen on yt don't last long.
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nicholas, this is just aside project (experiment) maybe I will use in future projects, its not related to the 6DOF robot, I want to test durability, backlash and electrical consumption in further videos.
@BHARGAV_GAJJAR
@BHARGAV_GAJJAR 2 жыл бұрын
no backlash is good but is it noisy ?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi @BHARGAV, its noisy because its running at high frequency. It can be noiseless using the TMC StealthChop functionality, but of course at a reduced speed.
@craftkov
@craftkov 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! very cool what you do! Is the belt also printed or bought? can you share stl files?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
The belt is also printed in PLA.
@MacroAggressor
@MacroAggressor 2 жыл бұрын
Are you planning to release on Thingiverse?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@chrisBruner
@chrisBruner 2 жыл бұрын
That is a very interesting design. Is the flex spline pla or something else? Have you released the cad files for this?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, chris, its pure PLA. You can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@haenselundgretel654
@haenselundgretel654 Жыл бұрын
Do you know how much angular play this assembly has? Is it degrees, minutes or seconds?
@Keksstar
@Keksstar 2 жыл бұрын
This is really awesome! Would you release the STL at some point? Would be happy to pay for it... 🙂
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@Keksstar
@Keksstar 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics wohoooo!!! Thank you very much! Of course I bought it 🥰
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Andi ;)
@Keksstar
@Keksstar 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics no no… thank YOU for publishing. You put a lot of effort in this. 👍🥰
@edwardchan8667
@edwardchan8667 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, why is it better to choose nylon instead of tpu for flex spline? Is it because of the consideration of longer service life?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Edward, I don’t have a lot of experience with those two materials. But Nylon as far as I know is quite strong to abrasive task, and also its slightly flexible. For this application you don’t need that much, flex spline only deform half mm.
@Michelincat7034
@Michelincat7034 Жыл бұрын
can I know bout extra preparations when I purchase that stl file? like bearings, bolts, etc
@nadavelkabets
@nadavelkabets 2 жыл бұрын
Is it back drivable?
@mattt2032
@mattt2032 2 жыл бұрын
No
@crackwitz
@crackwitz 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen a strain wave gear system that is backdrivable. some cycloidal gear systems are backdrivable because they don't have quite such a high ratio.
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Nadav, in this particular case is not backdrivable. Two main reasons, high reduction ratio and its made in plastic, which gives more friction in comparison with the real ones. But real ones most of them they are, you can find plenty of videos where people can back drive them.
@DylanEdmiston
@DylanEdmiston Жыл бұрын
How did you come up with the geometry for the flex spline and the fixed splines? I am trying to design a split circular spline strain wave drive, but I can't visualize how it is possible for the flex spline to interface with both housings if they are different sizes. And if they are the same size, how are you achieving that with a different number of teeth?
@活久见-q3f
@活久见-q3f 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the STL file I can download ?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@venomyeah
@venomyeah 4 ай бұрын
AWESOME
@MarkCupLee
@MarkCupLee 2 жыл бұрын
Is this zero backlash?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Not measured yet. But first impression is pretty close ;)
@pivkaaa
@pivkaaa 2 жыл бұрын
does this work the other way ? could be a great second gear for battery cars :)
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Maly, if you mean if it is backdrivable is not possible. The reduction is quite high to do that.
@excell211
@excell211 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I find the STL files?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@SCRTech
@SCRTech 7 ай бұрын
Hey I have a dummy question, I have calculated (considering nema 17 max speed at 600rpm) a max speed of around 20 rpm with this reducer without using micro steps, does anybody there mounted the gearbox to tell me if I’m right? Thanks.
@alllbe
@alllbe 2 жыл бұрын
`hello, nice and compact hd! Can you share your designs? I plan to use it and modify it to make 3d printer extruder. Thanks
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Manu, If you are still interested the design can be purchased here: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive Best regards, ZeroBacklash
@tuskiomisham
@tuskiomisham 2 жыл бұрын
Have you measured the backlash on this? :D
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, its good, only small flexion of the PLA is noticeable, but I am wondering after some use, PLA will deform. Nylon should be better choice.
@tuskiomisham
@tuskiomisham 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics I think the ball bearings are rubbing on themselves. I think grease may be good :) idk.
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
@wow hahah yes but I didn’t have for the video xD I agree with you it would increase the performance.
@alllbe
@alllbe 2 жыл бұрын
started my own (copy) design in F360 ... , questions What material you printed the flex spline with? "Slightly smaller" flex, is it just a scale down of the fixed spline? If i design the driving spline with 2 more theeths, do i have to scale it down also? What ellipse ratio do you use for the driving wave hub? Thanks
@pgabrieli
@pgabrieli 2 жыл бұрын
nice! are the STL available?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@pgabrieli
@pgabrieli 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroBacklashRobotics thanks!!
@polychoron
@polychoron 2 жыл бұрын
What is it used for?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Anabolic, whatever that requires precision and torque. Robotics mainly...
@Sky_fireworks
@Sky_fireworks 2 жыл бұрын
Bearing sizes ????
@alexanderl4995
@alexanderl4995 2 жыл бұрын
Will you make the CAD or stl files available? This would be amazing for a project I’m working on
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@hektor010101
@hektor010101 2 жыл бұрын
STL?
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you can find the link in the description: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive
@Robotinnovations
@Robotinnovations Жыл бұрын
Hi very nice
@derekfinch9586
@derekfinch9586 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent design. I love the minimalist approach. Have you considered using Acetal/Delrin balls instead of steel ball bearings? Or, for a contact line rather than a contact point (which should increase torque transmission and reduce wear), use Acetal dowel pins (McMaster offer Acetal dowel pins whose length is equal to its diameter). Cheers!
@dmitrynuzhdin
@dmitrynuzhdin 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, cool design. But does it mean that both non-flex gears have different teeth size? they are both the same diameter but with different teeth count. Is it a big problem? Do you use PLA for flex part? You really inspired me to design harmonic drive now. I was more focused on multistage planetary gears before because they looked more promising, but this kind of solution you have a so damn cool and simple.
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi @Dmitriy, happy to encourage you to start with strain wave gears. They are unique, these reductors are the core of the mechanics in robotics. Only flex spline is slightly smaller in tooth wide, height is the same, but this is not noticeable since this mechanism is done in PLA, 3D printing tolerances don't go that far.
@Jkauppa
@Jkauppa 2 жыл бұрын
try that with magnetic gear system, not mechanical
@Jkauppa
@Jkauppa 2 жыл бұрын
off-axis rigid circle gear planetary gear
@critical_always
@critical_always 2 жыл бұрын
The use of the steel balls is just brilliant. Together with the bearings I imagine this gear can take quite a load and not wear out too fast. Your 3d prints look pretty shit though. I hope the design comes up for sale somewhere.
@ZeroBacklashRobotics
@ZeroBacklashRobotics 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul, Thanks for your comment. The 3D print is not my best example xD this pieces must be carefully printed. They are small and need precision. If you are still interested the design can be purchased here: cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/3d-printed-strain-wave-gear-harmonic-drive Best regards, ZeroBacklash
@ikbendusan
@ikbendusan 8 ай бұрын
wtf is that intro
@SlayerHunt109
@SlayerHunt109 2 жыл бұрын
How long till that belt has worn down form friction on the toothed gear with 2 extra teeth?
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