Nemesis reacts to Phreak's Misc. Update!

[@szymonbinda360]

For Aphelios he meant that when there is caster Aphelios version in the game he is more played by his mains. When it's auto attack based Aphelios version his mains play him less.

[@shawnburs]

there has never been an "auto attack based" version of aphelios so wtf does this mean XD

[@modernwarfare186]

@@shawnburs When Blue gun was beyond broken he was more of an auto attacker then spell caster

[@JimJPoggers]

@@shawnburs Yes there has, when weapon rotations that favour crescendum doing sustained dps in the past over infurnum centric gameplay which is what people are shifted towards these days. I prefer auto centric Aphelios an example is season 11 think viper aphelios vs fpx lpl finals he doesn't invest much in infernum as auto attacking weapons. This is also a rune issue I believe in the past conq was stronger so you could slowly stack chackrams and doing sustained dps and same with the attack speed buff version of lethal tempo. Aphelios couldn't run the range enhancing lethal tempo effectively so you hac to go pta, fleet, and sometimes conq. Old lethal tempo and conq supported his older auto attack playstyle and have either been nerfed or removed.

[@JimJPoggers]

The issue with this logic is that aphelios experience a gartner hype cycle, on his release he was more spell caster that is at the peak of his hype cycle then he gets hits with a ton of nerfs that push him towards auto attacks and people aren't sure whether to invest time in the champion anymore out of fear of him being gutted. I don't think the frequency of aphleios mains playing the champion is a good metric. I love both his play styles and I feel as though auto attack aphelios was far more skill expressive to me at least.

[@claasmachens3858]

@@shawnburs He specifically talked about more and less caster aphelios

[@MarceloSilva-ig8yn]

For those who didn't understand the Bounties system reffered: Now the reward will be according to your gold average compared to the enemy team, meaning that killing a 0/5 enemy (worth 100g) will not increase your value in the system, making the rewards more linear. This system solves 2 problems and creates 2 new situations: 1st problem resolved: The Bauss dying 10 times will not increase the value of the enemy TOP laner, as the reward will no longer be directly related to the number of kills in a row, meaning that if your team kills the enemy TOP laner, there will probably be no shutdown and no extra gold income. (i'm a fan of his, its just an example). 2nd problem solved: The current situation benefits junglers who farm and do full clears in the long run, because despite the advantage that your lee sin could have obtained with 2 double kills in the bot lane, if he had to skip 2 camps 2 times to be able to make those plays, he ends up being behind in experience and still having a bounty that the enemy jungler can capitalize on with the xp advantage (advantage at lvl 6 against 5 or 8 against 6). 1st situation created: This means that champions who can create an advantage from kills or clashes in the early game can take more risks to nullify their opponent without necessarily giving them a reward for failing, and since characters focused on the end of the game need to have a high farm average, they will become the priority target to capitalize on. (They basically encourage champions with high roaming and accurate ganks) 2nd situation created: Now that the bounties are more varied we will encounter a very repetitive scenario in the future, that is the cat and the mouse, or better said, the assassin and the carry. The victory condition for assassins is to neutralize the experience of carries, while champions that scale well over time will be able to easily come back with a shutdown, but will dominate the game if they are not prioritized early. Ladies and gentlemen, Kassadin is back. P.S: I may be wrong about carries, but I'm pretty sure the future system will reduce snowballing in matches WHILE making carries' lives hell.

[@JaqueefiusBrown]

babus gets target nerfed again :(

[@Raizekusu]

@@JaqueefiusBrownthats a good thing lol

[@Rayonnant_style]

Most of this I can agree with but I think farming jungle style will continue to dominate. If Lee Sin early ganks and Master Yi takes his entire topside in response and then full clears his own jungle he will still be in position to 1v9 the game just like in the current state of league. These changes affect laners way more than junglers.

[@MarceloSilva-ig8yn]

​@@Rayonnant_style Yes, I agree, the problem I mentioned was the fact that impacting one lane would not only guarantee an advantage in camps for the enemy jungler, but make your jungler have to play with care (even though he is behind) in order to not give an extra 300 g as well. So now as a jungler you are less limited to impact the game, because the bounty will show later on then nowadays.

[@makadur7438]

This bounty change could potentially result in more distinct early and late game comps (in pro at least).

[@SmiteKhepri]

As an Aphelios main I'm so so glad Phreak gave up the idea to change his identity. I love how he plays

[@JorickvM]

Watching Phreak, next video suggested Time to go bald. 😂

[@BawanaBeast]

Trick has a better hairline

[@asnipersfate]

Prob shouldnt have skipped that items section there was more to see hear he was just on a tangent

[@lupuz3269]

he talked about tank item changes making them have more resists and less hp

[@shutupMaji]

Hope phreak doesn't relegate Swain back to the support role, he deserves better...

[@raykael]

I hope phreak never loses his job, he's the living proof that with enough luck any idiot can get anywhere in life

[@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429]

​@@raykaelbruh people who say stuff like this don't remember the crazy stuff pre freak He comes off as arrogant with his tone but at least he communicates, and a lot of things are better in the game Map changes feel good, more drakes, herald change, grubs. Remember poachers knife? Remember cinderhulk bs

[@IzuKiNoUzushio]

​@@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429I will agree with cinderhulk but trackers knife didn't deserve this.

[@raykael]

@@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429 I remember everything since this game launched, basically, and back then they were screwing things up but they were also making an honest attempt to balance the game, whereas nowaday they only do random changes for the sake of shaking things up... and sketchy balance patches. Ridiculous

[@raykael]

@@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429 by the way, "he communicates" XD ask Vel'koz players how happy are they with his communication skills XD

[@angelv2598]

I think the best take away that could happen for Riot with the Global Items nerf is to put the power in the mega behind the champions than the items they build, and if we want certain champions to be in certain positions, we can adjust their ratios around what their kit can do than what items they can buy that enable them to work. Like tweaking damage ratios that champs deal to monsters if they want them to function as a jungler.

[@Lucky-x4n]

no w swain is so important when you use w correctly you can hit e in most cases it works so well also it helps a lot to get hp from passive

[@kawaiinda6252]

but like why does he speed up the video, jesus bro i like nemesis but sometimes hes just so weird for no reason man xd does he have minecraft parkour videos open on the other screen alongside this?

[@nighticeeee]

I wanna know what RIot thinks of all the mini reworks and full reworks. 90% of the adjusted champs have lower play rates than pre rework once Riots nerfs them after releasing them broken. Is there a point at all to do them other than to sell skins for 2 months if the changed champs don't see any play anyway once "balanced".

[@oserodal2702]

It's literally Riot's fault, they fired champion design team.

[@Lin_Nascimento]

I mean, some of the time they don't even sell skins, the recent ones, Mundo still took 2 years to receive a skin, udyr took almost a year, Skarner we still don't know, but seeing how nobody is playing him still, I'd doubt he'll receive a skin this year.

[@Schwibzik]

Wdym "don't see any play"? Udyr wrecks the jungle and he was reworked quite some time ago. Skarner may not be at the top of the world, but at least he is now playable and doesn't have the łame crystals. The Fiddlesticks rework was fantastic, you always struggle against the ones who main him, even if he is not that common. Volibear is the ultimate gigachad, can make any item somehow work and still beats a lot of bruisers All of these champs has more presence than the untouched Kled, the forgotten Monkey, and when was the last time you seen Nilah? Riot has been always cooking good with the reworks, starting from Warwick or something, aside from some misses like Ryze and poor Aatrox

[@dariuszmudzianowski9449]

@@Schwibzik ok what is this shit take, u hawe to be some kind of paid personal riot glazer, u cant be that delusional, literally 90% of reworks are a failure from riot, if they actually had balls and half a brain they would just rewert all objectiwely dogshit reworks

[@shadenym5094]

Where did you look at the play rate numbers? Also were they raw play rates or relative play rates? I assume raw play rates will slightly go down over time as more champions get released as players have more options.

[@Akiozumi]

at 1:50 Nemesis says theres too much damage in the game. which is true but i actually think theres too much money that individual players can get in the game. coming from turret plates to bounties and also the changes to minions and canon minions. i think this is also the reason why games are decided/snowball out of control faster and yeah. too much money in the game.

[@mrmangbro6842]

I agree, ive been playing at a diamond level for about 7 years now and in season 7 i don't think i was on first item so consistently before 14-15 minutes. Eclipse for example i COMMONLY get before 12-13 which is insane for its power level.

[@yulian545]

Yeah there definiton about useless guy without item and serrated dirk nighmare. Or just blue kayn who got unlucky and not got item. And Blue Kayn that oneshotting someone with w+q. Just Hwei and Luden HWEI

[@The_Lightless]

@@mrmangbro6842Eclipse is just super broken. It is the cheapest item in the game and gives insane stats. Good AD, haste, shield, and % max HP damage all on a low cooldown. And it has one of the best build paths in the game.

[@mrmangbro6842]

@@The_Lightless not the cheapest, not even in that category but I get what you mean it's a strong first item definitely.

[@The_Lightless]

@@mrmangbro6842 Obviously I was exaggerating but It’s a 2800 gold bruiser item. The average cost of bruiser items is like 3200 gold.

[@GaSevilha]

I have said this already, multiple times... The solution for teleport is to give it 20 seconds cooldown ON DEATH, so if you die at lvl 5 and, it will be on 20s cd but you respawn on 10, so it has 10s cd only. But if you die at lvl 12, your respawn timer will be higher that the cd so you will respawn with tp available. That would make killing people with tp actually worth it

[@mistalod]

But that would make the spell entirely and utterly useless.

[@yassin7466]

@@mistalod not at all it will be way weaker in early game but still as strong to follow up fights while pushing a side. Maybe not 20 sec tho, it's still not that bad of an idea

[@nononoyouyouyou]

@@mistalod no, tp will still be very very good, it's just a skill issue (from you)

[@MrKrayona]

regarding the bounties, I'm worried the focus is more about comeback than win-good mechanics, no comment about gold reset for someone 0/8/0 and getting a takedown, how will that account in the new system?

[@yehyahj1332]

Yeah like they are making the early winning team will lose the more you are into the game and making scaling champs like kayle or vigar a gigachad buffed champs

[@svSGRDGRG1234]

41:08 Tank items are the weakest ? I guess Kaenic Rookern isn't in the game anymore 😂😂😂 I mean it is probably an outlier, but what he said surprised me a lot haha. I thought mage items are the weakest personally

[@iremainunimpressed1589]

Tank items all busted fr

[@qwormuli77]

Tank item value is easily the worst in the game ATM, but that's because they don't want every class building full tank and rolling with base stats otherwise, which is what happens every time a champ has too good base numbers into good tank items. To compensate for that, tanks tend to have massive incentives within their for building tank stats to make those items viable. That's why Rookern is so oppressive against especially burst mages, when built by a tank. The current target Phreak is going on about is buffing tank item baseline, but nerfing their inbuilt fullbuild synergy to make the items better without committing full tank, while nerfing some of the fullbuild synergy, like Rookern invincibility against mages with enough MR or late game tank item burst. Mage items are the next weakest down the line, with the range focused ones/ranged modded ones at that, as not all mage items are built equal.

[@trooperscientists2000]

I think Swain W should slow when you're inside it's circle. Remove most of its DMG and make it a utility tool. (Kinda like Lux) U could cast it on range to scout/ face check or use it to set up hitting e or catch up with people while ur in ult. Also I think he should have HP scalings to synergize with his passive scalings.

[@yehyahj1332]

By what you said oh lets make swain the most op champ the game has ever witnessed

[@LJSheffRBLX]

Nemesis Clips, great content keep up the amazing content

[@constantinvalidol5472]

"It doesn't feel good to play, doesn't mean we need to make it stronger"- literally the only argument Pllebbit usually has for ADC buffs. Hello?

[@Siegram999]

You really just love taking things out of context. Hes talking about champs in a vacuum youre talking about entire class category.

[@AtraxaApologist]

48:50 Enchanters, infinite stackers, tanks, and ADCs will all become much much stronger lol

[@tjniday6098]

I am 100% certain that phreak and the balance team don't watch pro play and don't actively play the game. The win rate numbers are taken completely out of context and used to push their narrative. Phreak is actively trying to kill the game and succeeding

[@wagnerlopez9451]

In addition to that being 100% true, the idea of adding/changing something in the game to ¨see how people react¨ without properly testing it, is just irresponsible.

[@NewUser000NewUser]

I think he's doings this as a kind of "FVCk YOU" to the community. "You did me wrong,ill do you wrong" kind of delulu

[@makadur7438]

You are delusional.

[@ASSASSIN79100]

5:27 I don't think it's necessarily true that more people prefer caster based champions. Not every champ is ability based. For example, Jinx is popular, despite not really using abilities.

[@AtraxaApologist]

Yeah Jhin(1st), Ashe(10th), Caitlyn(6th), and MF(5th) are all in the top 10 pickrate champions and always stay around there so I have to agree. Kai'sa(3rd) is there too if you count her. A lot of auto attack heavy champions stay at the top

[@HamsterPants522]

Jinx is popular because of her design, her being powerful, and because of the Netflix show.

[@JunearkCinccino]

What he was saying was that Aphelios specifically has had more games played when hes more caster like.

[@ASSASSIN79100]

@@JunearkCinccino IK that's what Phreak is saying. Nemesis is confused as to why Phreak wants him to be attack speed based because he views ability based as being more popular in general. I'm just saying it's not so cut and dry that players want auto attack or ability based Champions.

[@LordKeram]

I agree, but it's probably true that better players use their champion's abilities more.

[@aerynvr]

Nerf items = slow fights more durability etc, enchanters getting buffed

[@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429]

We're buffing graves by 5 damage and 1 second q cool down to bring him up Meanwhile they have gutted his main keystone the last 3 patches. They don't seem to see the big picture on a lot of things

[@aerynvr]

@@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429 I did not see a graves in months in my ranks

[@sedarium5307]

really good changes, not sure if the execution will be good or bad, but it is in good direction, though Phreak yaps a bit to much.

[@MirvDingle]

Chat is so annoying holy, perma complaining instead of appreciating the communication

[@caymanharas9914]

This is so true

[@ОлександрСвятун]

Its not a communication when A only one side taking B desisions already done

[@MirvDingle]

@@ОлександрСвятун that is communication. You are thinking of "conversation" pal. It also isnt final decisions, if you actually listened at all you would know that

[@braindeadbrick553]

people like u deserve this game to be dogsht forever

[@MirvDingle]

@@braindeadbrick553 🦍💨

[@user-nw3hd5wi9s]

nice Swain changes, i feel like that would be cool, Swain isnt a rly good engage support (if u play him supp) now you can actually engage as Swain if he presses R and slows enemies with demonflair instanly, thn you do other BS with E and Q, im rly happy they are doing something for Swain because his rework imo was really bad, he was played for like 3-4patchees then his pickrate went down below 1% and they neever toucheed him again

[@LifeForAiur]

I find it funny that Phreak would say that it is irresponsible to buff something if they are winning a lot of games but feel bad to play because he did the exact opposite when rationalizing the ADC buffs a while ago (not sure which season it was).

[@oxey_]

Sure but when you buff an entire class that means that relative to each other they don't get much more oppressive, that's very different when you buff a champion that already has a 52+ winrate

[@hugocoolerkanalsmal3172]

@@oxey_swain has 52% winrate for many reasons. Despite his 52% winrate, he is a rather weak champion. He could easily have 54% wr and still be balanced. Swain is: One of the lowest agency champions Highly mained Simple to play Counterpick Easy to counter

[@The_Lightless]

@@hugocoolerkanalsmal3172Yeah and we can also make the argument for the reverse like when Akali got nerfed at 40% winrate.

[@nope7200]

too many champions with too many interactions will create this awkward caution on buffing and nerfing items

[@tinecchi3648]

How does nemesis not understand that aphelios is more of a caster then a adc like jinx or kog I feel like phreaks poont is extremely obvious if you don’t think about everything in bad faith.

[@qwormuli77]

One probably should only expect hyperbolic and needlessly combative takes, when coming for these vids.

[@bsod111]

swain W maybe should be less for vision and more for damage. cuz swain is more like shadow fiend from dota, atleast he should be, i think. but they wanna move him away from it and nerf the coil compared to E

[@Shengguo0]

Going back to the riven thing he said. As an example riven items get nerfed while darius items gets nerfed as well ok fair enough, now lets add onto this the fact that darius has more durability, more base ad, Huge ad bonues with passive and true dmg on r. How is riven (that doesnt do well on sustained fights early game) supposed to win against the darius past his second back. Winning match ups will become harder for a lot of champs and some champs (like darius) will just benefit sooooo much from items being nerfed

[@ForzaOwnz]

Ignite should be able to be used against towers to combat tp and baron

[@zeflin2110]

So naut can run it down perma and not get punished because he is worth 0 gold all the time

[@themanhimself436]

What if they turned teleport into a pantheon ult without the slows or damage. Just lets you jump a far distance in any direction. Being able to control the distance you can travel provides a lever to balance the tempo value you get from tp early. Then after level 13 it becomes global maybe

[@tommy2842]

lmao high elo swain is literally sample size from 1 player only

[@jeremiemarion3966]

You can't make tank items for bruisers. What you need is to make a variety of 20-35 armor/mr items that also give 20-30 ad and a bit of HP and make them melee only. That's it. You can create 6 of them remove ddance that is an horrible shit item that you destroyed and you give 3 of the armor ones a different passive upgrade passed lvl 12 and 3 different upgrade for the mr ones so you can't rush this. Cause if a tank item is good you start seeing Rukern on adcs basically. But when you nerf Rukern you nerf the entire class of tanks while adcs can still get maw or Qss for ap threats. I like what they tried with scaling tanks items so items that synergize with you building more tank items and nothing else. But if you take Jak Sho why is the base armor and MR so high that even a vayne gets value there ? Just tune it down to 40 or even 30 heck why not but the scaling is harder for tanks cause it's a stronger multiplier on the ratio you get. So vayne gets no value but the tank does if he gets to 4 items. So being a good tank and cummulating a lot of gold by farming should lead to you being tanky. Rukern should be nerfed Force of Nature should be changed to what it was before meaning when it's stacked against burning champions you gain % reduction dmg towards ap dmg. Abyssal should probably be tuned down on the magic resiste removal. Frozen Heart should be an option against attack speed champions it should be higher price but should also be way more attack speed reducing. Hollow radiance is horrible, buff this garbage holy shit even against an ap laner i don't want to build this. Heartsteel should be 100 gold lower but also less damaging. Warmog should be a 3rd 4th item at best so at least 1,7k bonus hp and the price should also be lower. We should never see support building this. Basically they should either go abyssal, zeke, locket or randuin as first item. Change unending despair to 4 sec. Make gauntlet sheen proc dmg scale on HP and give better stats but he's going to 3k gold so you remove k'sante from pro play or at least not picked every single game without purpose beside stonewalling lanes. And probably nerf thornmail cause i'm litterally killing adcs by walking by on two items with my Ornn. Also fucking buff spectral cowl this shit is HORRIBLE for price it's at.

[@killabee8242]

this is scary,if overall damage is lower and tanks are stronger...im scared that classic mages gonna loose even more identity on mid..they are not tank killers ...adc mid could be even better after these changes or tanks mid

[@sanalsimon7657]

What about bounties on Sion? He's gonna int the whole game, passively gain so much health, and keep taking towers with three autos, and he won't be worth even 300 gold on a kill? Basically it's not even worth killing him, gives you nothing in return, but you have to because he'll just take towers otherwise

[@raulmarinho-io7ob]

If he's taking towers he is getting gold and so his bounty will increase, in fact the current system incentivizes suicide Sion a lot more because he gets very few kills and is worth a lot less money

[@Archedgar]

Trundle & Nasus take turrets much faster than Sion and they're both far better duelists. Don't be a joke.

[@MarigoldAW]

Sion sucks ass now and that strat sucks ass as well.

[@static3479]

The new system will kill this strat

[@ZadenWoW]

Why cant they show the negative bounties and total gold disparity, it will make games less toxic as the "losing" team will see how close the gold actually is. If the losing team is -10k gold then everyone knew it anyway.

[@lupuz3269]

ksante is back

[@WiiSportsTwo]

Why bother watching the video if you're not even listening to it?

[@seanboglio3605]

he skipped the stat talk on tank items... wtf

[@beo3828]

So basically, Morgana will never get a better passive.

[@RealLukifer]

Morgana has a passive? XD

[@beo3828]

@@Yicsrhgsjjggiiihggftyuiiuhftty not directly, but he's so proud over the fact that Morgana has been the exact same champion for 14 years, and he tries to sound like it makes sense she stays like that.

[@Archedgar]

Believe it or not Morg passive used to be good, or at least not as crappy as it is now. Soul Siphon used to be straight-up spell vamp and it scaled up with lvl. Now it's a strictly inferior version of spell vamp that is barely 'felt' at all.

[@Archedgar]

@@beo3828 He's also lying. Morg has had major changes. For instance her Q's hitbox used to be bigger and her pool used to shred MR. Black Shield blocked true dmg and had longer duration with shorter CD. These on their own don't sound all that diff but together they made for a completely different champion. Remember, preak was there. He's just lying his ass off to pretend like Morg hasn't changed, which is why he specifically talked about the Q dmg, the only part that hasn't changed.

[@beo3828]

@@Archedgar Oh so the one change was to make it worse. I wish I could forget this now.

[@Sonix07pr]

Thank God they are looking at bounties. I’m a kda gamer, so I’ve had so many matches where enemy team has all drags, grubs, herald, all 3 inhibs, all the while my whole team is negative kd, but since I’m 7/0 I’m worth a ton of gold. It feels so shit to have a bounty while actively losing. Like, it’s supposed to be a comeback mechanic. There’s also a bunch of times where both teams are more or less even, but I’m worth 1k gold because of kd, so if I die the match is auto over. I’m not too mad about it in ranked, but it makes you turbo sweat in norms to never make risky plays and end as fast as possible which is lame.

[@Kywu]

you're not a kda gamer, that's how a "kda gamer" is, you're just being smart, kda gamers just don't want to play with their team because they want to protect their kda to be the nicest and even if they're not worth of golds, also the fact that if you're ahead in the most gold of your team, you need to actively trying to make things goes better for your whole team but you mostly can't do it all alone even tho in league of legends, it's still more fitted for a "solo carry" with the gold but most of the games you will not, it's a team game after all. Wins are determined much by the impact you have on all of your games

[@iremainunimpressed1589]

Im sure u are the reason ur teams losing at that point because in a team game a sacrifice to make a team play could change the game

[@Denimy0]

Not too mad about it in ranked? And u sweat in norms. Delulu?

[@Sonix07pr]

@@Denimy0 1. I barely play ranked, but it’s ok to be sweaty in that mode. 2. I still don’t tryhard in norms, but the bounty system punishes you too hard for dying once which feels bad and contributes to making norms a sweatfest. People flame just as much in norms which is wild, and the bounties is part of that. 3. This would be resolved if they brought back dominion/twisted treeline and they let the sweatlords have summoners rift.

[@NicoLuna95]

Like if bruisers needs more buffs and build options lol

[@dr.nightmare9093]

Just make teleport take 10 seconds to channel before minute 5

[@angelv2598]

Watch Abyssal Scepter return for Mages lmao

[@tinecchi3648]

My god nemesis is so annoying for no reason. 35:24 Nice bro you really countered what phreak said. What is even the point he is trying to make phreak is clearly talking about q changes

[@panagram]

Phreak competing with xqc on wpm

[@adsmemlord]

0/15 janna will have a bounty on her head... i believe him cuz i just had a 1/13 quiyana with a bounty in my team

[@trietngo277]

suggestion: make tp like dota 2 as an item with 5 min cd

[@RealLukifer]

As nemesis said, 2 much work no can do

[@Siegram999]

Hell no although i do think zhonyas should be a 5min cd sum spell

[@tonybalz9888]

Swain its the new Ryze

[@Sarubotai]

Still no fixes to exp snowballing? smfh

[@richardgesegnet5481]

Dam. Nemesis twitch chat is ded

[@ASSASSIN79100]

I think what Riot can do to fix tp is to make teleport have a longer channel time. Make it 15 seconds long early game, but goes down slightly over the game. Backing then tp'ing back to lane is a big nerf early game.

[@mistalod]

15 second channel time would be horrible and would make the spell useless.

[@ASSASSIN79100]

@@mistalod It's only for early game. It's to make it weaker in lane where it shines.

[@mistalod]

@@ASSASSIN79100 But the whole thing about teleport is that it’s used to mitigate losses in lane. Backing to fountain with low health will already take time to regain your health, and while it might not seem like much, it’s still an extra 8 seconds or so of waiting in fountain before you can use tp. I think the changes they made to death timers is already a nice change, as they also changed the home guard speed so that walking back to lane takes the same amount of time once you die as before.

[@ASSASSIN79100]

@@mistalod That's what makes it OP. Phreal likes the late game roams with it. It's just too good in lane.

[@Bobassuki]

I do not want jungler who is 0/3 lvl 5 get random kill of 100hp enemy and be back to the same level as I am.

[@Sanspepins]

Too many items have too many stats. Items need to be pulled back to 1 main stat that's 80% of the power in the item.

[@NewUser000NewUser]

Phreak gotta be trolling at the starting of the vid. If hes not trolling and just realizing that pbe can be used to try stuff,its a whole new level of mental disabilities

[@thedailypersonsopinion2099]

Assassins shouldn’t have cc period. And if so it must be conditional and weak if it hits.

[@iremainunimpressed1589]

I wish they would just give assassins more base pen.. because tanks too much armor ad and mages too much dmg.. Fighters too much all of it

[@static3479]

Assassins arnt meant to fight tanks and fighters

[@Dissaxter]

Just let everyone use tp like the back button and put it on a 5m CD. This way everyone can take whatever summoners they want and not lose sidelane pressure because mid/top didnt take tp so now you cannot contest either side either nash. Make it even like dota where you can BUY TP. Why isnt this a solution? Make so everyone has tp on a CD and make it so you can TP everywhere on the map not just allied structures/creeps. Is that easy. If everyone uses TP then there is no reason to nerf or buff to make it feel good or worse to play against it. If everyone has the same tools then everyone is responsible of its good or bad use.

[@mistalod]

No.

[@theraconteur9069]

XD

[@vskovzgird]

bounty system is a bullshit. it is an excuse to not to create a good matchmaking. they should create a completely new matchmaking system and punishment system for boosting, scripting. inting and smurfing. Smurfing problem could be solved other ways, i guess.

[@jakubjankubik5982]

I actually think full AP Kaisa mid would benefit from W pierce nicely. They'd need to take away some power from elsewhere, but nothing crazy if it applied passive only to first target hit

[@teemomain5913]

W evolve doesn't apply 3 stacks of passive with the piercing change. Making ap kais'a way worse than hybrid kais'a with kraken guinsoo nashor

[@nathanspreitzer6738]

Bald Phreak yapping about things he doesn’t understand yet again, bald and mad or as it’s known mald

[@Archedgar]

WHY PREAK???? YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE. IT WAS SAID THAT YOU WOULD BALANCE LEAGUE, NOT DESTROY IT !!

[@jacksongodsey]

Buffing/barely nerfing tank items and nerfing every other item sounds awful. Tanks like mundo can buy warmogs and become invincible while still doing insane amounts of damage. There is nothing more tilting then a sidelane 3-0 mundo that can’t die, and your entire team has to sacrifice the map to keep him from killing the base.

[@Archedgar]

That's a very specific DRM issue. Also DRM isn't even a proper tank.

[@LordKeram]

The issue is that ever since season 7 tanks haven't really been tanks. They have just been bruisers that build tank items. They aren't there to soak up damage and cc opponents. They are there to kill enemies, just the same as bruisers. They need to take damage away from tanks and give them more tankiness.

[@Archedgar]

@@LordKeram That was by design btw. A very stupid design but a design nonetheless. They will never do what you are saying. I don't remember exactly when but I think at around season 4, one day rito decided & announced that tanks were impossible to balance as they were then. Thus, the slow process of ruining tanks began and never stopped. Back then tanks did way less dmg but had **much** better disables [Lasted longer/shorter CDs/etc.] & higher durability. They more or less nerfed tank disruption & durability but in exchange raised their dmg. For instance Rammus Q ball used to be faster, slowed for 3 seconds and his E (taunt) capped at 3 sec hard-disable. Anyway the quintessential example of this is Sejuani. She lost nearly all of her CC power & tons of durability in exchange for some crummy dmg & a horrible team-stacking passive. Her ult used to be an AoE 2 sec stun and her E was a follow-up to any of her abilities, including ult, that slowed for 70% for 1.5 sec. The dmg was crap but it was an insane initiation..... that's what tanks should be like in general but rito believed otherwise. G fkking G.

[@gyromite]

They are replacing one overly-complex bounty system with another overly-complex bounty system. Simplify. - Take out anything that cares about the difference between gold from kills and gold from CS (and gold from objectives, for that matter). Your bounty should be a reflection of your power level in the game compared to the other players. Nothing else. - Take out having two gold rewards for kills. Right now there is kill gold and then sometimes a bounty on top of it. The kill gold is variable and opaque. The bounty is clear to the player but hard to understand. Make it so that there is one reward only. Every player has a bounty, and that bounty is exactly the gold an enemy will get for solo-killing that player. Put every champions bounty in the UI, so you can always see exactly what your gold reward will be for killing a player. If the player is behind and the reward is 100 gold, then that's what the UI will say. If the player is far ahead, they will be worth 1000, and that's what the UI will say.

[@aradan3913]

I think the way they should make tp worst, is by making it overlap with something available to everyone like "for the first 8min you can tp, or warp gate, or whatever, to the 2nd tower"

[@Timeforspas12]

Tanks items receiving buffs when everything else is being nerfed reads "Nightmare fuel" to me. My god, Phreak will ruin the game once again.

[@nosc_c]

most non-biased Nemisis take: "Yes, mage items are sometimes too OP because JUNGLERS [insert whatever else]" When will an item be OP because the katarina bork runs me down with AA, or the syndra OS me with QE when she's 1/4, etc?

[@FrancesOBS]

its been 3 seasons since the last assassin meta, tanks are dominating every season and they want to buff tank items...

[@superfranky8054]

What are you yapping about When new items hit assasins dominated, meaning that the last assassin meta was this season

[@FrancesOBS]

​@@superfranky8054 this season is adc meta

[@yulian545]

​@@FrancesOBS Only after 14.10

[@tomblabla6333]

How can it be that when I play adc i have 7 kills 30 cs more and my opponent 1/9 jinx is Not Even 100 Gold behind? How shall u ever climb as an adc if all lanes Feed and Even if u stomped Ur lane enemy adc just gets free gold everywhere? Then also the game is so fucking snowbally and any match up without a tank supp against a tank supp is unplayable? Gosh I never hated beeing an adc main more. And no I don’t wanna play smolder because it‘s the most boring champ

[@doffy5394]

28:44 THAT SOUNDS LIKE JG NERF LETS GOOOOOOO

[@dunlosi1438]

nerf cc nerf movespeed nerf support

[@zweiigorgon8980]

They buffed cc on champs across the board by taking out legend tenacity and changing unflinching imo still a terrible change to this day where ur inly tenacity source in game is thru steraks gage which having tenacity genuinely makes no sense and wits end which makes somewhat sense for what kind of item is but unless u build one of those with mercs it legit doesn’t exist

[@iremainunimpressed1589]

Youd think its simple

[@Lucky-x4n]

both teams have tp so whats the problem riot focuses in matters that really dont matter

[@ssbbSephi]

morgana hasnt been changed, but lyandires, the most broken ap items ever made synnergizes with her very well, so lesser human phreak, MAYBE this is the reason why she is dealing way more damage despite not getting buffed. this worthless phreak garbage

[@static3479]

That what he said tho Items are the problem and thats why hes is planing on nerfing 95% of them

[@window9213]

Nah 100% the durability update has been undone. Post 30 mins champs just don't live for more than 5 seconds to anything.

[@svSGRDGRG1234]

39:15 Games are already too long bro. That is the main problem of this game. Cause it takes 3 minutes to queue, then 3 minutes in champ select, then someone is dodging, then again 3 + 3 minutes, then you are autofill, then you are the one dodging, then you need to wait 5 minutes to queue, then again 3 + 3 minutes... And that is why it is that long to climb in ranked. But if games were shorter like about 20 minutes, people would care less about having their main role all the time, or having a bad match up, and there will be probably less dodging. But as it is too long to find games and to play a game, you want always to have your main role or main champ or be in the best conditions, cause you are not playing that many games each day. That is what I think

[@Zemilia22]

Your idea does the opposite of what you think it would, faster games means more people wanting to quit DURING the game (wasting more time then someone dodging btw and you lose lp/mmr) and more people soft inting to get out of the game faster. I would gladly wait 10-15 minutes in que (already do some days) if it meant I had 35 minute games that actually felt like I got to do something, instead of what your asking for which is 10-15 minute stomps where the games dictated by people who can effect the entire map (support and jungle). Which leaves me to believe you likely play one of those two roles since I refuse to believe anyone with a functioning brain would want even faster games.

[@svSGRDGRG1234]

@@Zemilia22 I think it depends how games would be if they are faster. In faster games where laning phase would be proportionally reduced it would not be more dictated by roles like sup and jungle. It would not be 15 minutes laning phase and 5 for the rest of the game. Look at URF mode (btw I am not asking for something like URF which, this is only an example). When I say I want faster games, I mean generally, I don't especially mean 10-15 minutes stomp, btw I am not a support or jungle player, I am a midlaner, that is why I am pissed about not having my main role so often, especially in normal games when I play about one game a week... Are you a toplaner btw 😂? Let me explain you why I think it is better when games are faster. Look at other games than league where you have rating systems like chess for example. In chess you can play in differents modes which have each their own ratings (like ratings in league). For example, 30-40 minutes games or 4-5 minutes games. I can tell you when you than playing 30-40 minutes chess games is clearly more annoying than 4-5 minutes ones. When you lose a long game, you are pissed, it I took time to reach you real ratings, sometimes the other player plays something you hate and you are in the game for 30 minutes, sometime the other player recognizes he is losing and then he decided not to make a single move for 20 minutes to hostage you... But when the game is faster, you don't care cause you don't really have all of these problems. You lost, ok go next. You will do better next time. You play more games each day, so you reach very easily your true ratings even though you chain lose, cause games are faster. And generally, you are very very less tilted

[@Zemilia22]

​@@svSGRDGRG1234 Your using chess a 1v1 game to a team game, just because you check out of a game at 20 minutes doesn't mean the other 4 people on your team should also have to give up. You sound like your just not built for a game like league where the entire premise of the game is push and pull literally. You can ask just about any person in any elo above masters and they will say they prefer longer games because longer games means the better team will win 80% of the time. In faster games one fuckup literally means gg go next which is literally the korean solo que mentality that is a plague. I play mid adc and support, in slower metas mid and adc have more influence over the game. In faster games support and jungle dictate the pace and what team has a lead. Like i said already game speed also drastically influences what champions can be picked. If games become even faster you literally restrict the playable champions to 1/10th of the roster. Im not sure what rank you are but if your games are going over 30 minutes you have to be in like gold and below. If your talking about normal games then your opinion is even less important because people mess around in normals so games last way longer then they should.

[@svSGRDGRG1234]

@@Zemilia22 Maybe I wasn't very clear, but when I mean faster games, I don't mean just laning phase, or just stomp, or faster meta, or more snowbally games. I mean games where almost everyone is full build and lvl 18 at 25 minutes, not 35 minutes for example. Games would be globally faster. I don't mean that I want all games ending when players have like boots + 1.5 items... I don't want all games to be concluded at an earlier stage, I want globally faster games. I hope it is a bit clearer like that. It as nothing to do about "checking out of a game at 20 minutes while the other 4 people on your team don't want to give up"...

[@Zemilia22]

@@svSGRDGRG1234 That doesn't change anything I said. If scaling is that fast then snowballing is even more impossible to deal with. Games would not last 20 minutes if people hit full build at 25, because a single person getting a few kills in lane suddenly end up 1-2 items ahead and its over in 10 minutes. That is not good nor is it why people play league. You literally want to play an completely different game which nobody else wants. You have zoomer/tiktok mindset and its clearly obvious now, not respond after this.

[@Velereonics]

Phreaks reasoning for for what they do, his rationalizations for the changes, are egregious. He and the balance team dont seem to really understand what a given metric CAN actually tell you. Ultimately they are acting on something that in some cases is weaker than a correlation, it's like a one time juxtaposition of two numbers which may or may not have any impact on one another. It's truly amazing to see.

[@ignacioorrego1852]

Dumb it down lil bro

[@nevvy7669]

​@@ignacioorrego1852 He's saying that they're just comparing numbers/stats and acting on that which is often kinda bad, dk why he had to say it like this tho

[@henrym.1290]

Thank God we have the yt commenter Velereonics to tell the balance team with degree's in these things what is the right and wrong way , & what a given metric can tell you. Hire him immediately. His input is greatly needed. Surely he will account for all elos with his vast brain , no need for stats.

[@RealLukifer]

​@@henrym.1290 1st balance change: make balancing easier by perma banning all players above bronze 3

[@ignacioorrego1852]

@@nevvy7669 hes doing way to much in a yt comment section where 90% of the readers have english as their second or even third language... someone tell him this is not a law school test.

[@dariuszmudzianowski9449]

Im sensing nail in the coffin with these changes

[@F0zek]

Not the freak...

[@bahoun]

okak

[@waterDrinker13]

I almost puked when he said that tank items are in their weakest state. Tanks do way too much damage, mundo one shots a full hp turret, ksante is unkillable and one shots you, tanks deal extreme amounts of damage in this game, if they had better items it would be unbearable

[@thedailypersonsopinion2099]

Mundo isn’t a tank. And ksante sacrifices tank stats for damage and literally has locked max hp for the duration. Plus ksante sucks lmao. An aatrox is far worse than both ever will be.

[@roohni2226]

@@thedailypersonsopinion2099ksante doesnt suck lol. Every time i have a ksante in my game in masters, he randomly just 1v4s in late game teamfights.

[@thedailypersonsopinion2099]

@@roohni2226 well yeah he’s supposed to be good in higher elos. Doesn’t change the fact that statistically the champ sucks. Though it’s not hard to deal with K’Sante anymore. Just pick an ap top laner respect the fact that he’s a counter engage champ and stay away from walls and tadaaaa you win.

[@The_Lightless]

@@thedailypersonsopinion2099Ok Mr smart guy, how to beat Aurora?

[@thedailypersonsopinion2099]

@@The_Lightless respect the fact she can win most 1v1s and save flash until after she ults unless you have a blink in your kit. Hard cc also works. She’s pretty standard and low range tbh so picking a champ with point and click cc can basically get rid of her all game.

[@christtwitch4013]

Whoever the fk at riot games decided to give the balancing job to phreak of all people should literally be fired from the spot. Couldnt have chosen a worse person to balance the game. The dude got no clue and worse of all hes got an enormous ego that makes sure he will never listen or learn or doubt himself. Worse person for the job

[@wrarraven]

phreak is so bad at logic, it's incredible. this guy has been on a fallacious rampage his entire career. listening him explain his thought processes is so painful. plz just quit

[@TURK69KURD]

barrier still overtuned, aphelios still overtuned in good hands, ap senna worst change in human history literally still game breaking in the game, tp op atleast he finally realizes it, all runes getting giga nerfed to the ground was the biggest mistake, removing the new pings also really bad change. i could go on and on trust me. they are ruining the game

[@yulian545]

Tbh pongs was deleted because a lot of toxic players (it was problem in Asia) was abusing them as threaths

[@TURK69KURD]

@@yulian545 but the "hold" ping aswell? And who cares really if people use it for being toxic since the "?" ping is also being used for toxic purposes in EUW. So why not remove all pings at this point

[@iceboorg9737]

Someone needs to get a partner