The most UNFAIR Death Battle episodes (Season 2)

Everyone seems to want me to update the original video, so this is how I'll do it in a way that won't be outdated in at best a few months time. We're going to go through every single Season of DEATH BATTLE! and rank them in order of how unfair they were, based on the logic of each episode.
Today we tackle the biggest season of the lot, the 30+ episode long Season 2 of DEATH BATTLE! And we might even find the biggest quantifiable stomp according to Death Battle itself...
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[@lucasm.3864]

As an added bonus to WarGreymon vs Charizard, since they mentioned that he has weapons specifically meant to kill dragons, you could double that gap since it would count as a “super-effective attack”.

[@cdeardorff8685]

But charizard is not a dragon type pokemon?

[@KillaSharkAttack]

@@cdeardorff8685 mega Charizard x is though. He was used for the fight.

[@lucasm.3864]

@@KillaSharkAttack Exactly, which DB mentioned as well. Seeing as all of this stuff was mentioned in the episode, it could be fair game for this video (not that it would have changed anything).

[@cdeardorff8685]

@@KillaSharkAttack ah didn't know that. I usually use mega charizard y when playing pokemon which isn't dragon.

[@omegon2540]

Nice

[@Superluigi881]

Luigi: *Lifts and throws an entire castle* Death battle: Large radish strength feat. Take it or leave it.

[@sansationalbadtimes1849]

And bro = to Mario who can literally beat someone who had the power of immeasurable universes (Dreamy Bowser)

[@RealGateGuardian]

He also demolishes one with a wooden hammer, jumps on one till it's nothing, and paints one out of existence.

[@mr.gamer17]

They must have forgotten that Luigi uproots a fucking rocket in that same game.

[@yoshter135]

Death battle didn’t scale characters properly? Wow! 😮

[@toumabyakuya]

@@RealGateGuardian Super Mario World's Castle destruction animation shouldn't be taken into account because nowhere else in the franchise do the Bros. demonstrate similar feats. It shows that those animations were created to have fun, without taking into account what the Bros should realistically be able to do.

[@danielferrieri7434]

Here's a Dumb Idea: Ranking Death Battle By the Analysis Alone

[@Striker-gz5gu]

thats a nice idea but they get so much wrong so he'll have to rank every episode

[@stickydoodle8198]

That’s a good idea actually.

[@sullymcdaniel4901]

@@Striker-gz5guok 1. No and 2. It’s not based on how accurate, just by how enjoyable the analysis is

[@ImTheGuy]

Aquabob would stomp hard fr for real

[@deputyrook6232]

Superman vs Goku scaling was legit just "Infinite VS Not Infinite, what else so you want me to say?"

[@Superluigi881]

Goku vs Superman 2 is the most pointless episode ever. It was made just to double down on everything from the first one while adding nothing new and doing an even worse job explaining the result. They shouldn't have even bothered. Especially since Dragonball Super would come out later down the line to respark the debate yet again anyway. Even the animation felt like a half measure compared to the first go around. Brandon's music is the sole redeeming quality.

[@lordthruxawe504]

​@@Superluigi881Yeah, I mean comparing Z/GT goku to superman is fair enough as those were the definitive endings to those series. Super, however, is still ongoing. God knows how many forms and powers Goku will have acquired by the time Super ends.

[@arqueiroXD]

It was a serious too early. Because the infinity argument died... But also they use composite superman so its the weirdest character of then all... if they really went fair it would be Xeno Goku that had infinity feats too.

[@user-vr9ek4kz2u]

Have you seen what Superman's been up to since DC Rebirth? Goku Super would take a third L.

[@PessiTheFraud]

​@@user-vr9ek4kz2ucry harder Superman fanboy 👍🏻

[@khntou4178]

I appreciate DB trying to go a different route of reasoning other than saying Charizard is an ant compared to Wargreymon but that whole friendship gap thing was very dumb.

[@geezymoney3729]

It was like rubbing salt on the wound

[@khntou4178]

@RooByrne Death Battle really said that you can't have multiple friends.

[@ViltrumiteIsRite99]

@@roobyrne3075How are they not?

​@@roobyrne3075and at least legendary Pokémon got established to be able to leave their trainers the moment the legendary has no more respect for the trainer.

[@brandonwong8614]

10:29 - 10:37 most hilarious statement ever, and boomstick though what homelander did was gross

[@aksghazi868]

I had finished this video a while ago, and after thinking about it for a while, I think Chuck vs Segata should be higher than Pokemon vs Digimon. Despite Pokemon vs Digimon's bigger power gap, Chuck was put at Immeasurable speed through being able to kick himself in the back. Despite the smaller power gap, Chuck was infinitely faster than Segata, which should give it the 2nd spot in my opinion.

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

It's comparing strength not speed but yeah if he out that in then he'd be just faster.

[@maxspecs]

@@CerealExperimentsMizuki Segata has Norris beat on durability, as Chuck only has one infinity's worth of durability, whereas Segata can clone himself with each clone sharing his own infinite durability.

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

@@maxspecs there's higher levels of Infinity, Segata may have the ability to have Infinity x Infinity durability and power but that doesn't even register to Powersets or Supertasks, imagine those Infinite clones each with Infinite Durability and power but times by another Infinite set of Infinities and then match them up with Omega more then go to Omega² and then a Powerset of Omega² x Epsilon ³ and then you've got an Infinitesimal idea of just how powerful Chuck Norris is and even then that's a lowball, Chuck could easily be Outerversal and above even the concept of Infinity and Nunlmbers and Space and Dimensions and could even be considered a Trans Dimensional Platonic Archetypal construct which would be capable of viewing Segata as nothing but a fictional illusion that he can think out of existence, Chuck is high Outerversal while Segata is low Hyperversal at best.

[@hdckighfkvhvgmk]

​@@CerealExperimentsMizuki Bruh the vs. Community has come up with so many ways of basically saying "nuh-uh, my character is strongest!" That it barely makes any sense from an outside perspective.

[@trimega1223]

Never would have i heard the combination of astro boy and f***ing a woman so hard the city died in the same sentence

[@renamon5658]

10:16....... Astroboy did what now?

[@venomgaming7014]

He took someone’s virginity with such power, he wrecked a city.

[@Xx_SuperPenis_xX]

He made love to a lady with a magnitude that is enough to level an entire city

[@josephsharp6221]

I’m disappointed you didn’t say IN-FUCKING-FINITY as the difference for Goku vs Superman 2

[@HelenaSan425]

Pokemon vs Digimon is my favorite death battle stomps Because i love Pokemon and Digimon

[@fourthhorsemendeath218]

I'm very happy with the results of some of these battles, but the reasoning they gave for why they won will always bother me. Im glad you're bringing this up lma0

[@NoodleMcDoodle69420]

8:18 a Delicious Radish That Will Never Be Lifted

[@Lordmewtwo151]

Shouldn't Chuck Noris v. Segeta Shansiro be in the "wrong" category if it's such a stomp because DB marked it inconclusive?

[@mropti6350]

Idk, meme battles are in their own category for me. Norris VS Sanshiro is 1000% a meme.

[@Lordmewtwo151]

@@mropti6350 True enough.

[@HRKFUNNYMOMENTS]

Goku's Power Level=The Heart of Dedication, Determination & improvement. 14:48 SuperMan's Power Level=Every New Writer's Hopes & Dreams.

[@albertthepeacock8020]

But hopes and dreams could also be applied to Goku since that's how new forms are introduced

[@HelenaSan425]

Charizard is mountain level or island level They downplayed Charizard but Tai and Agumon still wins

[@Keith_Norman]

Agreed since most pokemon range from Mountain level but since they didn't mention any actual Feats for Charizard this is the best Nemesis could do

[@3kojimbles895]

@@Keith_Norman really wondering how mountains are still a thing in pokemon

[@Keith_Norman]

@@3kojimbles895 because Pokemon can make Mountains

[@Keith_Norman]

@@masedaace5473 2018 shows that the show still messes up on research because you're wrong sonic would have factually beat mario

[@rubyrogers8879]

​@Mase Daace I'm not a VS debater but uhhh Sure 2011 used Archie but uhhh....2018 used Smash Bros for a feat which...yeahn no

[@jaymeslanske1234]

10:18 BAHAHAHAHA, What even is this quote, it is so strange and unable to ever be expected

[@FranTheNerd]

for the kirby one death battle kinda dropped the ball, kirby has regularly survived universe busters (yes even at the point the episode came out) without a scratch. and with his ability to just- not die from reality warping attacks or not being affected it's kinda iffy if the absorb can even effect kirby. I mean kirby is LITERALLY pure positive energy exposed to dark matter- which would be kinda....not be able to be touched by buu? Quite simply buu only had ONE win condition and it relied on a iffy justification. Even before the meteor feet from star allies kirby's power is undoubtfully in my mind comparable to a portion of beerus. let's say 1% as kirby has survived universe busters as said before and has defeated them. 1% of beerus's power is more than enough to vaporize buu entirely.

[@boxytheboxmaster1452]

Happy birthday nem

[@renamon5658]

I hope digimon comes back to deathbattle

[@SuperBrunout]

A high tier Digimon vs Arceus (or another high tier Pokemon) would be nice.

[@EmpCalick]

Its gonna be awhile now that Gogeta got used

[@renamon5658]

@@SuperBrunout maybe one of the 3 great angels vs arceus?

[@renamon5658]

@@EmpCalick i hope we get a digimon vs marvel or dc. Maybe takuya kanbarr vs the human torch

[@ThisguySL]

@@SuperBrunout Rayquaza might be a better bet, being able to literally make a snack out of the same world-threatening meteors that nearly killed the creator of all things at the peak of its power. IDK, I still can't get over how embarrassing that is...

[@dresdenlancer9012]

There was a guy who ran the numbers of how the digital world is made up of smaller universes like digitamamon and such. So wargreymon scaled up to complex multiversal+, with Incalculable speed, since he speed blitzed a guy who controls time and space. It was pretty mad.

[@aksghazi868]

I agree with those being WarGreymon's actual stats, but Nemesis is going by the episodes own logic only. Which would cap him at 1/4th universal.

[@dresdenlancer9012]

@@aksghazi868 oh I know. I know the premise for the shows. I'm not arguing. I'm just saying

[@brandonwong8614]

And with context segata vs chuck would scale lower had they gone more into detail about Segata not being one shotted by Archie Sonic which would be higher than building level

[@theonewhoismany8072]

Wargreymon scales to the Four Holy Beasts. The Holy Beasts uphold the space-time of the entire Digital World, an infinite world that exists beyond the Network(multi-layered, 6 layers/dimensions) and Human World(your classic infinite multiverse.) They're literally the pillars that keep the Digital World from collapsing. Like a bridge; destroy the pillars, and the bridge collapses. The bridge would be the Digital World, and it'll be collapsing onto a myriad of other worlds, resulting in a mishmash of worlds or a world of nothing but darkness(nothingness.) The Holy Beasts can also help with the Human World to a certain degree. Digital World" reffers to an infinite world made of layers/dimensions with more worlds within said layers. The worlds within said layers can also be called and be whole Digital Worlds and these worlds can have worlds of their own. So most threats to the "Digital World" are to those worlds within the layers or the entirety of the Digital World itself (including the layers and worlds within them). The layers are collections of worlds making each layer its own multiverse. The "Digital World" transcends the entirety of the "Human World,"(clasic infinite multiverse) and the Network( comprised of 6 layers with worlds within them), stands at a higher structural level and encompasses the Human World. Even if you use the world/universe/multiverse as a processing resource you cannot process the Digital World's data(lower worlds cannot support higher worlds). Thus the Sacred Beasts scale above space-time through sheer hax.

[@MatthewDiLeva]

Ah yes, Season 2. The golden season otherwise known as the Torrian Era. Well, at least *I* deem it that, anyway… Edit: 17:08 HOLY SHIT! HE SAID MY COMFORT CHARACTER’S LINE! *HE GETS THE REFERENCE!!* _ahem_ …sorry…got a little too ahead of myself there…

[@RealGateGuardian]

I love how you JUST BRUSH over Goku VS Superman. I know it's been done to death. But thank you for that.

[@IkeReviews]

Majin buu is just a wendsday for kirby

[@dragonmaster48141]

Looking back on how wonky the scaling for the earlier seasons were and how much they have improved since then... It's a wonder the series became as big as it did. Honestly it amazes me how much better they got since then

[@Superluigi881]

Let's be real. With the earlier episodes a lot of us just wanted to see the fight and the gory death at the end.

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

When you find out the Digimon Lore and compare Archeus to Wargreymon then it's not even comparable, even Infinity is too small, Pokemon just never even stood a lick of a chance.

[@epicjorjorsnake2525]

Yeah. Digimon lore + cosmology gets really crazy

[@numberhunter62]

The best we can get for Arceus is that we one we see is a lower form to interact with the world as it's a higher dimension being. Using like a sentence or two from Legends Arceus and rolling it to the highest level I could get it. That would still make him weaker than WarGreymon though.

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

@@numberhunter62 the most I'd see from Archeus would be Universe+ for me but that's the highest I can go really.

[@maskofthedragon]

Digimon's "real" cosmology is so boring and shitty compared to the "meat grows in the ground" stuff, that it feels like a wanker went back in time to add it

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

@@maskofthedragon what are you going on about?? The real cosmology is that the world works using a Platonic Archetypal system with different Archetypes going into different realms and there's realms that exist above all Concepts and Archetypes like the digital like realm from the movie and there's textbook Hyperversal and Outerversal constructs in play, even the creator and director of the original series has stated that there's higher Dimensional realms and that the main world has Achetypes and Cosmologies in every individual Particle.

[@deathstroke994]

13:26 I guess if you wanted to be even nicer, you could say that the statement of him fighting Pokémon that can alter the planet puts him at multi-continental.

[@theonewhoismany8072]

Still useless against a Complex Multiversal

[@maxlolbits2182]

i can't wait for flash vs quicksilver to be #1 for most unfair season 3 death battle....though i don't remember what feats they gave to Barry

[@elilopez6260]

They only said he was 6 billion times faster, which while a big number, in this series is not that big

[@JosephRiveraSantiago0617]

Pokémon VS Digimon's big-ass number still baffles to this day.

[@AstroKFP]

Pretty sure Iron Man would still beat Lex Luthor

[@openinginawe5518]

Hello Mr nemesis Also these are all good and I love them

[@chimpo961]

Umm, Nemesis is from resident evil not whoever this is

[@HieiFF7]

Happy Birthday!

[@Keith_Norman]

Also in the last Death Battle Stomps episode you said that the universal feat from SpongeBob was not applicable but they stated that was consistent and a side bar mentioned how the yellow bastich canonical survived just want to throw my hat in the ring also I actually made it on time Jesus Christ

[@aksghazi868]

Still closer than Trunks vs Silver.

[@Keith_Norman]

@@aksghazi868 universal to wall level

[@gurrenlagannsc8658]

​@@Keith_NormanWell SF Aqua wasn't put at Wall. He was put at around Small Town. 2.8 KT iirc. Still though, that would put Aquabob at fourth in terms of finite stomps, behind EXE vs Volnutt, Chuck vs Segata, and Pokémon (Charizard) vs Digimon (WarGreymon). If you include infinite ones then it drops to... 8th i think. 1. Trunks vs Silver 2. Goku vs Superman 2 3. Doctor Strange vs Doctor Fate 4. Thor vs Vegeta 5. Pokémon vs Digimon 6. Chuck Norris vs Segata Sanshiro 7. EXE vs Volnutt (Mega Man Battle Royale) 8. Spongebob vs Aquaman

[@ceejaydaniel2287]

Yeah I just wanted to add this real quick while I pretty much agree with everything you say I will say when you brought up the whole crushing a building and lifting a building thing that of lifting can actually be a lot stronger or require a lot more strength than crushing something my support for this is because I work at FedEx Ground I load all of the trailers I lift things constantly all day I also watch all of the same exact things that I lift get broken and get crushed I can also say that I can Crush 120 lb box but I cannot lift 120 lb box above my head so while I totally agree that death battles is really stupid for using bad as their argument I will say that unfortunately lifting can be many times stronger than crushing. Please excuse my horrible punctuation. I used speak for all of this. Great videos bro, keep em coming!!!!. If I misunderstood then ignore me lol

[@Goose_was_taken]

Actually my charizard named princess buttercup killed some 4 year olds hacked shiny arceus so he could probably beat up every digimon.

[@Titanium1208]

Hello Nem

[@SuperRandomNation]

What song plays during the Pokemon vs Digimon segment?

[@skyfirebird1414]

Me hearing Tenpest Blitz in the video and pointing at my screen. Someday. Someday the funny Man will talk about the matchup.

[@JosephRiveraSantiago0617]

Thank you for the logic for Mega Man vs. Astro Boy, I hate it. But Pokémon vs. Digimon. WHAT THE EVERLOVING FUCK IS THIS NUMBER?! I can see WHY they were extremely lowballed in Lucario vs. Renamon. Hell, saying THAT is an understatement. List of episodes that are vague/wrong by their own logic list: Fett VS Samus 2010, Rogue VS Wonder Woman, Goomba VS Koopa, TMNT Battle Royale, Zitz VS Leonardo, Yoshi VS Riptor, Felicia VS Taokaka, Kratos VS Spawn, Mario VS Sonic 2011, Luke VS Harry, Chun-Li VS Mai, Starscream VS Rainbow, Chief VS Doomguy, Eggman VS Wily, Link VS Cloud 2012, Pikachu VS Blanka, He-Man VS Lion-O, Ivy VS Orchid, Fox VS Bucky, Terminator VS RoboCop, Fulgore VS Sektor, Batman VS Captain America, Tigerzord VS Epyon, Ryu VS Scorpion, Deadpool VS Deathstroke, Kirby VS Buu, Gaara VS Toph, Fett VS Samus 2, Guts VS Nightmare, Tony VS Lex, Beast VS Goliath, Snake VS Sam, Vader VS Doom, Hercule VS Dan, Yang VS Tifa, Wanda VS Zatanna, Fett VS John Yautja, Bond VS Wick, Jason VS Michael, and Gogeta VS Vegito List of episodes per stomp gap: 32) Green Arrow VS Hawkeye (Big Draw Weight VS Bigger Draw Weight): 2 Times 31) Sauron VS Lich King (Big Island Raise VS Less Big Island Raise): 2.05 Times 30) Tanjiro VS Jonathan Joestar (City Block VS City Block): 2.02 Times (with a bigger speed gap) 29) Pokémon Battle Royale (Blastoise 48% VS Venusaur 17%): 2.8 Times 28) Haggar VS Zangief (Shark Level VS Bear Level): 3 Times 27) Godzilla VS Gamera (Mountain Level VS Mountain Level): 4.6875 Times 26) Deku VS Asta (Country Level VS Large Country Level): 6.19 Times 25) Batman VS Spider-Man (0.5 Ton Level VS 10 Ton Level): 20 Times 24) Zelda VS Peach (Human Level VS Big fuck off kick Level): 165 Times 23) Harley Quinn VS Jinx (Large Building Level VS Town Level): 300 Times 22) Luigi VS Tails (Large Radish VS 10 Tons): 321.54 Times 21) Wolverine VS Raiden (2 Tons VS 1005.8 Tons): 502.9 Times 20) Donkey Kong VS Knuckles (Large Mountain VS Small City): 857.94 Times 19) Excalibur VS Raiden (Island Level VS Large Town Level): 460,000 Times 18) Magneto VS Tetsuo (Star Level VS Large Planet Level): 503,805.309735 Times 17) Mega Man VS Astro Boy (Two Time Wall Level VS Fucked a Girl so hard The City DIES Level): 100,000,000 Times 16) Ragna VS Sol Badguy (City Block (Being Kind) VS Island): 772,727,273 Times 15) Bomberman VS Dig Dug (Building Level VS Island Level): 2,434,881,087.2 Times 14) Shao Kahn VS M. Bison (60 Billion People VS One Person): 60,000,000,000 Times 13) Goku VS Superman (Lifts Continents VS Lifts Planets): 41,250,000,000,000,000 Times 12) Akuma VS Shang Tsung (Island Level VS Human Level): 449,780,000,000,000,000 Times 11) Omni-Man VS Homelander (Moon Level VS City Level): 248,000,000,000,000,000,000 Times 10) SpongeBob VS Aquaman (Large Planet Level VS Town Level): 2,068,965,500,000,000,000,000,000 Times 9) Ryu Hayabusa VS Strider Hiryu (Wall Level VS Planet Level): 1,084,166,500,000,000,000,000,000,000 Times 8) Vegeta VS Shadow (Planet Level VS Roughly Town Level): 42,581,101,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Times 7) Thor VS Raiden (Planet Level VS "Building" Level maybe lmao): 261,789,470,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Times 6) Black Adam VS Apocalypse (Multi-Continent Level VS Universe Level): 2,278,225,800,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 Times 5) Chuck Norris VS Segata Sanshiro (Universe Level VS Large Building Level: 6 Sexvigintillion Times (No, I'm not putting anymore 0s at this point.) 4) Pokémon VS Digimon (Wall Level (Being Super Kind VS 1/4th Universal): 67 Sexvigintillion Times 3) Thor VS Vegeta (Infinite Universe Level VS 265,800x Universal): Infinite 2) Goku VS Superman 2 (Nothing VS Infinite): Infinity 1) Trunks VS Silver (Multiversal+ VS Multiversal+ but more): Hey Wiz? What's half of infinity? *_IN-FUCKING-FINITY!!!_*

[@EggFighterXB-]

Wait what happened with Trunks Vs Silver I don't get it...

[@deyontemyers4109]

Magneto and Tetsuo was probably the only battle that the team said:...yea we heard of bs power level but we're calling caps here man

[@gurrenlagannsc8658]

​@@EggFighterXB-In short, Silver is at a bigger infinity than Trunks.

[@OtakuJuanma2]

Ngl, I forgot the Digimon evolution power given was equated to universal. I was expecting Boulder vs Planetary.

[@OtherDude]

Another reason Goku vs Superman 2 was unfair, SSB Goku had no feats at the time of the death battle. They did it before the Resurrection F movie even came out. All we had were trailers of the movie.

[@FintanMajora]

City level fucking is what makes season 2 absolute gold

[@ProtossTempest]

WarGreymon: *Gets hit by Solarbeam from Charizard Y* Also WarGrey: "Not bad. My turn!" *proceeds to throw a miniature Sun* Srsly, if it was limited to Ultimate/Perfect form, then 'Zard would have a chance. M.Grey's got bulk and firepower, but ain't the most dextrous and maneuverable, so flight and good speed help. Allowing Mega-level form turned it into a massacre

[@alicepbg2042]

it's kinda cute that you think charizard had a chance against anything beyond greymon...

[@ProtossTempest]

@@alicepbg2042 Potentially. 'Zard's got the speed and could boost itself even further with Dragon Dance. Like I said, if it was limited to Mega Charizard vs M.Grey, he woulda had a chance. The leap to WarGrey just destroys that speed advantage... and in power

[@alicepbg2042]

@@ProtossTempest nah fan... zard has absolutely nothing on m. Greymon. And that is me being nice. Cause the gaps are massive

[@RoughnutOHoulihan]

​@@ProtossTempest M.Greymon would thrash Zard and it's not even close. No matter what form Zard is in.

[@fork-man]

​@@ProtossTempest my guy I love pokemone more then didgimon and day of the week but zard will get curb stomp by any form after greymon hell possibly greymon himself is a win

[@NulKenos]

Whatever you say a bear vs a dog is the unfairest

[@MinecraftWorld1954]

I’m surprised at how close they got Godzilla vs Gamera, especially considering how big of a stomp the matchup is. ESPECIALLY now.

[@unityreviewandanalysis9870]

Actually, they said Mega Charizard X defeated pokemon capable of altering the planet 4:30 minutes in. So the gab should still be huge but smaller

[@WolforNuva]

"Gone toe-to-toe with" are the words they used, which is not the same as having defeated them. It does imply a comparable level of power (though that can still be lesser), and it's certainly more than this video would imply.

[@Monorat]

What is the song at about 11:40 ?

[@OkayRandom.]

Astro boy did WHAT!

[@TheLordDyl11]

Excuse me, if Tony vs Lex is wrong then how do you explain the masterpiece of a line that is “I’ve been playing human”

[@tuskact4425]

Isnt that come from Superior Iron Man comic?

[@Cringgod7805]

You know I never really realize how big of stomps they are until it’s really pointed out and stuff like these like dear God but hey at least you got to talk about a radish ( btw whenever I see cringe God (me) show up on the Patreon shout out list always have this weird instinct to be like “ ay yo dat me!!!” Always happens weirdly anyways have a greatly amazing day )

[@venomgaming7014]

Season 2 is so fun the calculate the difference of. You have to use draw weights of bows and percentage chances of winning.

[@something1600]

Great, you just quoted the video.

[@venomgaming7014]

@@something1600that’s the joke?

[@xp9282]

How did you measure these huge times differences 😭

[@saiyanscaris6530]

so anyone know when the next death battle will be?

[@Zecuu]

10:12 bro i cant breathe lmfao

[@SuperGamerCatholic]

I knew death battle was wrong from day 1 with Rogue vs Wonder Woman

[@aksghazi868]

Before watching: Goku vs Superma 2 is at the top, isn't it?

[@blueflame4192]

Now I think you are making up numbers

[@7evenseas975]

Every time i feel like it. I'm gonna say this There is a form of goku that fuses with the audience of a japan only universal studios thing aka US. Making him beyond fiction. There's seeing fiction within fiction And then there's becoming half Our real life human. (In story duh)

[@AtelierGod]

The thumbnail has a none combatant in it, let’s see if you can find it.

[@cringebaby2558]

For Godzilla Vs Gamera did they say Godzilla survived a black hole?

[@xdfeverdream8122]

I know its pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things, but they brought up in the battle royal that Charizard is mountain level in base. I know you don't consider outside sources in these videos, but that source is from Death Battle even if its a different episode. Back in the earlier seasons they were pretty arrogant and didn't recap what work they already showed and just assumed people already knew what they showed in previous episodes. Hell they tested the waters with what they thought they could get away with by blanket stating that there is no level of power Goku could possibly attain that could put him on par with Superman waiting for actual feats and multipliers be damned. The main reason was Superman lifted half of infinity months before Goku shook all of infinity. Point is the show was different back then.

[@jackgrove4621]

nah im pretty sure they got it right on the money with that chuck norris fight

[@marshtomp8]

Yeah honestly, Mega Charizard X vs WarGreymon deserves to be one of the biggest stomps of all time. The power scaling of Digimon vs Pokemon's is unreal.

[@chriskoloski32]

Idk what season it is but the ben 10 vs green lantern is the most unfair to me because there was no excuse for ben 10 losing.

[@Bleeperblopper497]

No, the corner tabs mention the reasons why Hal outstats Ben

[@michaelmartin9052]

Snake Vs Sam is my favorite fight :(

[@HRKFUNNYMOMENTS]

Fugged A Woman So Hard! The City Died 10:15 10:30🤣 Robert Cop 6:15(That's His Name Now,Now & 4Ever) Holy Fug 12:05

[@yexe9129]

Megaman out here has less *potency* than Astro Boy's pelvis. Take that as you will.

[@vision4860]

I still hate what they did to my boy Knuckles in Knuckles Vs DK. I'm not upset that he lost, that'd be fine. What I hate is that they composited in the low intelligence of Boom Knuckles - a very different canon, very different version of the character - whereas the actual Knuckles from the mainline games would have clearly superior intelligence and strategy compared to DK's simple nature. Again, not saying that'd necessarily give Knuckles the win, but it is a factor.

[@Schrodingers_douchebag]

8:28 Luigi can literally survive the fucking pulling force of a black hole.

[@Bleeperblopper497]

Fictional black hole that doesn't destroy everything around it doesn't compare to a real one

[@adam-dn3hi]

"the digital world and physical work are universes" the physical world is the digital world has a much higher cosmology(for example the realms of the 4 holy beasts exists on higher dimensional levels than the physical world)

[@adam-dn3hi]

you forgot to mention how in toph vs gaara their reason for why toph would beat gaara was because rock is harder than sand so toph must be stronger than gaara

[@kbowman772]

Does Chuck vs Segata count? Chuck didn't win if you recall.

[@gumslice]

Yes but segata didn't win either

[@_M_42]

W take season 2 is the goat

[@TheDeviantDon]

Goku vs Superman is by far the worst DB that Death Battle has ever done, can’t debate that. Without picking too much of a side, and using the feats that were available at the time instead of now, the calculations coulda been better for both characters. I will say though, nowadays they seem to be doing a somewhat better job with their feat calculations and scaling with some of their fights.

[@Celestial914]

I think I hear a cat in the background of the video?

[@ZERODE11]

Bart Simpson vs Eric Cartman

[@kirbystar7474]

Why did they scale Charizard to under wall level at that point Mike Tyson could beat him even though Charizard is able to scale to legendaries since in the mega evolution specials Alain’s Charizard was fighting zygarde and rayquaza

[@RychuAlolan]

I don't think some of those numbers you read are real

[@Syrius_Li]

Idk these seem pretty close to me

[@yoo-nity2821]

They never actually said Tifa's limit breaks were stronger than Yang's AP or durability. In fact, no one got attack strength or speed. The only stat given was Yang's durability feat. By that logic, Yang should win. (Yes Tifa should win, but only off of the stats given, only Yang had a stat).

[@Aelda69]

Tifa should have won because she scales to characters like Cloud Strife and Squall Leonheart, both of whom are Galaxy level and Multiversal respectively.

[@Sub-Zero-im7km]

Wiz: "Tifa was naturally stronger and more experienced than Yang, but Yang's Semblance quickly turned all of Tifa's power against her." Direct quote from the episode. Tifa's base output was 153 tons of force due to her supersonic throw, and higher with premium hearts; 1162.8 tons. Tifa's damage increasing as her limit gauge rises. Yang's power doesn't stay with her and depletes after her semblance. Ergo, Tifa's 1162.8 tonnes output would steadily increase as her gauge rises, to the point where it would be higher than Yang's 1400 tonnes given in the episode; she wouldn't survive Tifa's normal strikes at that point let alone her limit breaks.

[@juanhaines7295]

Megaman would dog walked astro. At his most powerful he is black hole level in durability, is faster than light even with the speed gear or time stopper and finally they used exclusively video game megaman. While they took every version of astro combined them all and made him unbeatable.

[@Keith_Norman]

Nemesis has already stated that he is not using outside Sheetz for these videos but let's say he was accurately scaling all the Astro Boy accomplishments were from the show or Manga which is stated to be Canon to each other they are literally the same character. Also Megaman doesn't have blackhole durability to my knowledge unless something happened in the new games

[@juanhaines7295]

@Keith Norman megaman can survive Galaxymans black hole bomb and Jupiter the stardroids black hole. Theirs the durability.

[@Keith_Norman]

@@juanhaines7295 Astro Boy took a dip into the sun

[@AtelierGod]

@@Keith_Norman a black hole is a place in space time so dense that the laws of physics stop working as we understand them, if you actually get pulled beyond the horizon of a black hole eventually you will hit its core the singularity, where time ceases to exist!

[@Keith_Norman]

@@AtelierGod I know how black hole works but that black hole isn't really compatible to be a real black hole that's why I don't count it

[@proximaeon]

Time to flex my Digimon Knowledge and hate to anything related to Digimon Adventure. Taichi's War Greymon is technically the WEAKEST in the Animation Branch of the Franchise, because he had it hard and even lose against virus attribute Digimon of his same or even inferior level. In Digimon, the attributes are like the Types in Pokemon, Virus defeats Data, Data defeats Vaccine and Vaccine defeats Virus, War Greymon is a Ultimate Vaccine Digimon but being from Adventure gives you the bonus of being incoherent and not respecting the main canon, which make War Greymon a punchbag for Virus Digimon. And to add even further on how weak are the Digimon from Adventure. Our War Game has the main threat, Diablomon, an Unknown Ultimate Level Digimon but that when it clones or multiples, it loses power, making this ability obsolete against any Ultimate Digimon, and to add that a Digimon evolving into a higher level without evolving the level between makes the Digimon not as powerful as it should be, being considered an incorrect evolution... but Metal Garurumon and War Greymon were massacred by what it supposed to be a way weaker opponent.

[@theonewhoismany8072]

The Attributes don't work and are not used in the anime. And Wargreymon is a Virus Buster, Digimon specifically designed to hunt and kill Virus Types. And Wargreymon was either matched against a Virus(Pinocchimon), needed literal divine intervention(Mugendramon) and was stomped (Piemon) by Virus Types. Hell Pinocchimon one shots him in the novel even while he uses the Brave Shield to guard. Except Digimon Medley confirmed that Diablomon as far as raw power is supposed to be stronger than Apocalymon. And the reason they had such a hard time with him is both because they were not together as with the Dark Masters and Apocalymon and the fight took place in the Network so they were affected by the speed of the Net.

[@memerz4525]

Attributes dont apply to anime… they are known but the actual matchups don’t apply

[@somedudewithakeyboard5388]

If I had a nickel for every time Death Battle used Sex as a combat feat, I'd have two nickels... Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it happened twice

[@HeartofBattlechannel]

3(Megaman vs Astro Boy, Hulk vs Broly and Omni Man vs Homelander)

[@dupreebroussard5307]

The script writers decide who wins

[@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17]

It's kinda weird, cuz normally he doesn't like massive stomps, except when they're in his favorite season

[@2l84me8]

Who really cares in the end anyway? It’s just their opinion afterall who wins the outcome.

[@chefbreccia2642]

I _completely_ forgot Chuck Norris was quantifiable.

[@bocoom]

10:15 the astro boy "fucking" example is not canon. It was a one page gag comic by the creator called "astro Boys first love" you cut out the other half of the page that gave it more context.

[@Bleeperblopper497]

Death Battle would still count that feat, cause it's not that far off to scale to him, just like how Hiei was given the tree feat

[@bocoom]

@@Bleeperblopper497 if death battle did use it then it would be an error on their part. But this guy just straight up lied and dishonestly cut half the page out! It was not even a city that got blown up it was just a bench. And no "fucking" went on they just touched eachother and blew up. Read page and you will see for yourself. It's free online.

[@javierguerrero7025]

They used that example in the actual episode They said "Level an entire city" Is not his fault that he uses the info in the original video to make the list, you could say "he should have researched!" That would go against the reason for this list, is not to "correct" or to "fix", is simply to order

[@orignialname4983]

Yooooo

[@ILikeNerdShit]

I think the lesson to be taken is that powerscaling is stupid and doesn't work properly 99 times out of 100

[@deyontemyers4109]

Especially the power scale "infinite" especially since a lot of these characters got beaten by none infinite characters let's take a look Silver: lost to Shadow who lost to Sonic Superman: Defeated by Doomday, Joker, poison ivy, batman Thor...can...can someone bail me out for this one I watch D.C not marvel so I'm kinda uncultured for him

[@Bleeperblopper497]

@@deyontemyers4109 "Silver: lost to Shadow who lost to Sonic" .....in his base form, tho. If all of them fought each other in their super forms, Archie Silver would just time travel and kill em both in the past since Silvers the only one with accuasality and a time stone

[@deyontemyers4109]

@@Bleeperblopper497 that would be an interesting fight tho having all 3 fight in super=(character name)

[@naeshaunedwards7731]

A Death Battle I felt was also unfair was Ben vs Green Lantern. In the video they literally said that if anyone tries to take off the watch or harm Ben the watch would automatically try to protect him. In the Death Battle when Green Lantern went back in time before Ben transformed, he cut Bens hand off and the Watch did nothing to protect him even though that was Green Lanterns intentions

[@something1600]

The animation is just for fun, don't think about it too much.

[@Lordmewtwo151]

1:45-2:05 Okay, I kind of understand where you are coming from considering you are only using the episode's logic, but personally, by your rules, I'd actually consider this one inconclusive. Yes, Captain America has the advantage in strength, but until the strength gap reaches a certain level, Batman's skill advantage can counteract it. Maybe the reflex advantage puts the episode in Captain America's favor. P.S. I know that pointing this out breaks your rules because we are using outside information, but main universe (616) Captain America is only superhuman in strength and durability. Speed, reflexes, stamina, all of that is only peak human, which Batman also is, meaning that logically he should (and actually has unless I'm mistaken) also be able to dodge point blank gunfire. Also, Batman has fought people with a Strength advantage before, Bane being the most notorious. TLDR, it basically comes down to which is superior, Cap's strength and durability advantage or Batman's skill advantage.

[@firelizardryko]

Assuming this is Red at his peak. You can scale Red's Charizard above the other protagonist's and get him to say multiversal+ at the very least with immeasurable speed. Red is constantly stated or recognized as the greatest of all time with his Charizard in many media and games. This would mean he scales above the gen 4 and 7 protagonist who have fought the concepts of time, space, and anti matter. But also fought against Ultra Necrozma who gave light to the infinite multiverse. There are outerversal arguments as well. You can say since the creation trio existed before dimensionality as stated in the story of the original one in gen 4. You can say they're also platonic concepts if you use Pokedex entries and this. This is some cool info I've found over the years. Maybe a wild interpretation but something I just wanna share for anyone interested. Hope y'all have a great one (:

[@ectospassmta8493]

This delves into a bit of compositing Pokémon, which while DB does do I'm not a fan of as each canon functions on separate rules, scaling, lore, etc. And also I think there's a hard line between fighting a Legendary Pokémon and being equal to their lore feats/implications. It wouldn't really make sense for a random wild Machamp, Lucario, Golisopod, or whatever Pokémon the trainer brings that they've been training maybe a week to be canonically on par with multiversal beings. And I'd also argue Red being top of the top consistently is a bit stretchy, he's not explicitly stronger than his contemporaries in the PWT or Battle Tree as I recall and he's not really mentioned much otherwise, the best I got is having higher level Pokémon and being the secret boss of the Johto games, which puts him as one of numerous people above Lance at best really.

[@firelizardryko]

@@ectospassmta8493 I completely understand what you mean. It's just something fun to look at. You can further backup this with the Rise Of Darkrai movie where common mons like Pikachu, Piplup, Torterra, Infernape, Empoleon, and Croagunk scale to or have blocked attacks from Palkia and Dialga intended for one another. But I would say use this if you believe Palkia and Dialga are one being each across dimensionality. There was also the statement in Pokemon Masters for Red being the greatest of all time where he also 1 ups opponents from the Battle Tree and before. I love the many interpretations we can have based off the many feats and statements we got in the series

[@ectospassmta8493]

@@firelizardryko Where I personally stand is that the video game version of any mainline protagonist is a bit too vague to fully rep in a vs show

[@dylancross1039]

This is using game mechanics to justify power levels. You don't wanna do that

[@firelizardryko]

@@dylancross1039 No, this is using in game lore, feats, and statements. Using in Game mechanics and stat values make things a lot more wonky and we don’t want that

[@aaronstdon6778]

Wouldn't Goku be multiversal as in mui he created a new university if not beyond god level because not even bers nor any destroyer god has reached mui in dbzs not to mention we don't know how fast he's not only dodging but predicting every attack in that state yes this was a form he reached during the time they released the death battle

[@something1600]

Goku Vs Superman 2 was made just after Resurrection F and before the first Universal feat of Super.

[@robbiesrevelations3096]

#30. And yet Bats literally won in the battle because of his gadgets. Sorry but you wrong. And no, neither would get folded

[@kookio4284]

What I don’t understand is. Why did they not use Ash’s Charizard over Red’s Charizard. Ash’s Charizard is much stronger than Red’s having fought multiple legendary Pokemon and came out on top against a good number of them. He might not win. But it’s a much better choice than Red’s charizard which only had feats from a 10 episode special. 😂

[@stephvondames6369]

Well Ash's Charizard can't Mega Evolve.

[@stephvondames6369]

To be honest they should have used either Ryo or Mameo. Because they're both game protagonists like Red.

[@stephvondames6369]

But, at the same time I can understand the limitations. And everyone wanted to see Mega Charizard X vs Wargreymon.

[@kookio4284]

@@stephvondames6369 Yeah, but Mega Evolution doesn’t exactly assure that your Pokemon is stronger if its not as trained. Also, Ash’s charizard is much more well-known than Red’s charizard which only existed for 12 episodes as opposed to Ash’s charizard’s 100+… Like, if you’re gonna use a Charizard from an anime, then use the more well-known and popular one. 😂 The one that Fought an Entei and an Articuno (who had moves that were super effective against Charizard). Much more feats. It was just a weird move in general.

[@stephvondames6369]

True.

[@reinorgaming2179]

can we say vegeta manga loseing to thor was dumb the cowincedence that vegetas head was just their and he could just hakai thor for goku vs super man i disagre but if you think that thor beats vegata thats dumb pluse thors dumber

[@thetombraiderfan]

They stated Thor was inmune to hakai because he tanked "existence erasure" attacks before.

[@averageguy1469]

The person that came up with Chuck vs Segata was probably on crack to think that match would be good.