Nemo Chain Oiler - Install on a BMW G650GS

[@captainLoknar]

Finally someone knowledgeable, explaining in short and concise language Thank you kindly 💗

[@ShedOfDreams]

Intro “saves carrying messy grease cans or oily containers” later “carry spare oil to top it up” n your panniers” lol

[@HidalgoRides]

If you're on a 1000 mile ride you might want to bring an 8 ounce squeeze bottle of extra oil. But for day to day rides there's no reason to bring more oil. How much oil you use depends on riding conditions.

[@kkhalifah1019]

My Triumph Tiger's swingarm is a little tricky due to its shape but with a good cleaning with degreaser, the metal dispensing mount stuck well once the clean surface was prepped with adhesive promoter and a strip of high temp 3M VHB mounting tape was used. Been using a 50:50 mix of cheap SAE90 & SAE140 oil, which works really well in our hot tropical climate.

[@Wieland_der_Schmied]

Thank you very much for this instruction. I also have a Sertao. The idea where to install the oiler is very, very helpfully to me! I already installed the oiler on a Honda NT 1100. But there the mirror holder is a good position. At the BMW this is not possible. So I am very thankful for your idea in the case of the Sertao. And another thing made me smile: Your "calibrated hands" 🙂

[@bestrestproducts648]

Yes absolutely it can. it was developed for street bikes, but we show it being used on a dual sport bike.

[@andalusienrolfito3382]

thank you very much for this video....👍

[@charlessykes6927]

Thanks for sharing, I looked at the installation paper and it sure left a lot out, appreciate your time doing this,

[@norsefalconer]

I guess this is primarily for chain to sprocket wear/friction on a sealed chain. I can't see how it effectively lubes between the inner and outer plates, with the distribution being in the center of the rollers. It'd be nice to see a brush or delta shaped end for complete coverage of the chain.

[@THunt-ss4hy]

Lubrication is also needed inside the free spinning rollers because they aren’t sealed.

[@ebrensi]

Hi, thanks for taking the time to make this video! My question is about where you mounted the reservoir. Doesn't that get really hot?

[@YouMotorcycle]

Yeah he installed it directly where the fan blows the air too. Everyone who owns this bike knows the right front of the motor get the most heat. Weird place to choose.

[@chris-ip4pk]

Oil drips on and flies straight off all over your bike.genius.

[@davidpetersen5531]

Chris - I wanted to reply and tell you not to be a know-it-all, but I thought that was too harsh so instead I'll try to explain things clearly, so even a genius like you can understand them. . When you use heavy weigh gear oil in the Nemo there's minimal "oil sling". Oil doesn't fly off and cover your bike like you claim. You see small droplets on the rear rim, but from years of personal experience and from the feedback of thousands of customers those droplets are a nothing-burger. A bit of soap and water, or some Simple Green will remove the droplets in seconds. . Even an o-ring chain will sling a few droplets as the factory-applied internal lube squirts past the o-rings. So either way you're going to get droplets of oil on the rear rim, it's just a fact of life. The only way to avoid droplets is to go with a belt-drive or shaft-drive system. . You also made another comment (which you must have deleted): "Complete waste of time,chains are grease sealed,chain only needs a wipe with oil to stop corrosion, acf50 no rust." . Here's where your bias (or ignorance) shines thru. Yes, o-ring chains are internally lubricated and there's no way that any external lubrication will reach the chain's inner pins because of those o-rings. However, external lube (from the Nemo) does serve a significant purpose because it lubricates the side links AND the outer rollers AND the sprocket teeth. When the outer rollers and sprocket teeth are regularly lubed this significantly increases both chain and sprocket life. Running the chain "dry" without external lube will cost you money in the long run. . As for using ACF50, that product is nothing more than a rust inhibitor. It's akin to WD40 which does the same thing. Neither product contains the high friction, high sheer strength lubrication compounds needed to handle the loads carried by chains and sprockets. . If you look at a "dry chain" (o-ring with no external lube) you will often see that over time the chain will develop a number of small "kinks". That's caused by a lack of lube between the outer links and the points where they are riveted to the rollers. Put the bike on the centerstand and spin the wheel and you'll notice quite a bit of rolling friction because of that dry chain. Then apply some gear oil to the chain and spin it again... you'll immediately notice that those kinks disappear and the wheel now spins much easier. The external lube has done its job. . Whether you use chain lube from an aerosol can, or lube from an oiling system like the Nemo or the Scot Oiler, your chain will thank you.

[@LATAMbiker]

How can the O/X rings get lubed if the drops of oil are going on the rollers? Wouldn't the inner plates prevent the oil from getting to the O/X rings? And if you positioned it alternately over one side of the chain, how would the fluid get to the O/X rings on the other side of the chain? Thx.

[@bestrestproducts648]

Hydraulic pressure ignores uphill and downhills. . Oil never gets INSIDE the O-ring or X-ring. Instead, the oil lubricates the contact points between rollers and sprocket teeth. PLUS it lubes the side plates... . As the sprocket spins the lube distributes where needed. . You're obviously over-thinking this lubrication concept.

[@LATAMbiker]

@@bestrestproducts648 I'm just curious about how the O/X rings would get lubricated if the oil is dropped on the rollers, or only on one side of the chain. I know the oil isn't going to get inside the O rings, but the O rings themselves should be lubricated.

[@bestrestproducts648]

@@LATAMbiker if the oil is dropped on the roller it will dissipate laterally, then centrifugal force causes it to move outward as the chain goes around the sprockets. You're overthinking this process. If you saw my chain you'd know that the lube reaches all parts of the chain.

[@nealbeard1]

Extension arm kept loosening. Ended up soldering and JB Welding it.

[@LATAMbiker]

Blue Locktight and a lock washer.

[@danilomachado_]

Good afternoon friend, great video. Please ask a question. I have a nemo 2 and it doesn't stop dripping, even closing the lid and body tightly. I've already checked the valve underneath and it's tight. Do you know how to solve this? Thanks

[@bestrestproducts648]

Things that can cause dripping: . 1. The hose is damaged and/or the hose is not fully seated into the pinch clamp at the bottom of the reservoir. 2. If the hose is coming off the bottom of the reservoir at an angle, that can allow air to enter the system - make sure the hose coming straight out of the bottom. 3. When it drips it's almost always because you're not following the proper fill-up protocol... 4. Reservoir must be level - if the bike is on the sidestand or tipped to one side then #5 won't work 5. During the FINAL fill-up, bring the oil level all the way up to the top of the o-ring, almost to the point where the oil is overflowing, then and only then screw on the cap - hold the main body with one hand as you screw down the cap, otherwise the body will turn as you tighten the cap... 6. If you don't do #5 then what you're doing is trapping air above the oil level, and as you screw down the lid the air acts as a pressure bubble and that will cause the oil to drip. . The Nemo works on the principle that the oil won't move down the hose unless it's pushed along by force. Every time you turn the body that forces oil down the tube. But when there's a bubble of pressurized air on top of the oil then the oil will slowly drip out the hose.

[@danilomachado_]

@@bestrestproducts648 Wow... Thank you so much for the class buddy. It was much clearer than any other video and even the instruction manual. Just ask me one last question about item 4 please. I filled the oil with the bike straight, without the side stand. But my bike doesn't have the centerstand and it always stands still with the sidestand. I leveled the NEMO with it straight, as if it was in motion and automatically, when it stands still, the NEMO is uneven. Is it correct anyway, Or leave the nemo level as it stands still and uneven in movement? Thank you and congratulations for your content, greetings from Brazil.

[@bestrestproducts648]

@@danilomachado_ it doesn't matter if the Nemo isn't level when you ride, it only matters when you're filling it up.

[@davidfalgout7304]

Does the daily change of barometric pressure EVER CAUSE the oil to come out?

[@bestrestproducts648]

No. The only reason oil will come out is if you turn the reservoir... OR if you fill the reservoir improperly.

[@mookyzook]

The vacuum will hold it till you turn it, unless your oil has the viscosity of water😂 and even then it's unlikely.

[@rexcrystal1343]

Is there a minimum required length of the hose? Based on where I think I should mount the unit on the KVS, I estimate the length of the hose to be used is about 18"... will this length still give a 3 minute drip time? My second question is, is there a specific required viscosity of the chain oil to be used?

[@bestrestproducts648]

No minimum length. It's all about the hydraulic pressure in the reservoir. Thicker viscosity is best. I use 80-90 gear lube.

[@rexcrystal1343]

@@bestrestproducts648 Thanks! From what I've researched so far, the Nemo would be the best option!

[@pberiol78]

Perfect lesson. Compliments!

[@HowtowithPaulHenderson]

can this oiler be used on a street bike, I think this is an awesome way to keep the chain lubed. I have a Suzuki GSXR-1000

[@bestrestproducts648]

Paul Henderson the lube distributes by itself all over the chain. The motion of the rolling chain causes lube to penetrate most of the chain components. Will the lube get inside the sealed orings? Dunno.

[@rischkanwifisti4024]

Hi, What do you Think, does ist work with motoroil 10w40? The reasen ist, I got bis oil on board.

[@HidalgoRides]

It'll work with regular motor oil or heavier weight gear oil. The advantage of a heavier weight gear oil is that it "slings" off the chain and sprocket than does a thinner weight of oil or lube. If 10w40 is all you have, go ahead and use it.

[@clivedavis3829]

Thanks for great video - have bought a Cobrra Nemo 2 after watching your video. Just one thing concerns me - the oil drips onto the centre of the rollers. Should'nt the oil reach the seals on either side of the links, to be effective?

[@bestrestproducts648]

With oring chains its difficult to get any lube past the seals on the outer links. Oil in the middle will lubricate the rollers and the sprocket teeth. The spinning of the chain around the sprocket will help work the oil into where it's needed.

[@hcashmore11]

@@bestrestproducts648 I thought you were meant to align the hose like this on the sprocket? images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91wwBQ9CW2L._AC_SL1500_.jpg

[@bestrestproducts648]

@@hcashmore11 You can do it that way. I prefer to let it drop onto the rollers.

[@bestrestproducts648]

If you put the oil tube on one the side of the sprocket that's OK. Oil will spread to the outside of the chain, on one side. I like to drop it on the rollers so it will get to both sides of the chain. Centrifugal force will spread things out. Since the oil's dripping on the rollers, the spinning motion causes the oil to migrate to both sides. There's a bit of a misconception about lubing a chain. The o-rings or x-rings do a pretty good job of sealing - they prevent internal lube from coming out, and prevent external lube from going in. There is an advantage to oiling the side links and the roller faces. A bit of lube here and a bit there will spread around and lube the contact points between roller and sprockets, and the surfaces where the side links meet the cover plates. Bottom line - any lube, anywhere on the chain is a good thing.

[@jjbigwheel]

in the packaging i received, there is a plastic item called Brakefix. what is this used for?

[@bestrestproducts648]

John - I have no idea what that item could be. It is not part of the Nemo system. Call me at the shop 425.673.1023

[@kalunchan8386]

bestrest products, Hi, I would like to know if the oil will free flow if the cap is open? I got a unit. When testing without the hose in it, the poured oil immediately drips out the bottom ( where it connects to the hose ) Is that normal?

[@bestrestproducts648]

If the cap is off (or loose), oil will flow. That's normal. The way the system works is simple: oil remains in the line and the reservoir until pressure is applied by screwing down the cap. Once pressure is stopped, oil stops flowing. Think of it a syringe... the fluid only goes out the needle when you push the plunger. When you fill the Nemo it's important to fill it all the way to the top, until it's up to the o-ring. If you have it half full, when you close the cap you're compressing the air in the reservoir as you screw the cap. That pressure will cause the oil to flow when you dont want it.

[@kalunchan8386]

@@bestrestproducts648 thank you so much

[@chrisolson8640]

Is there a reason the tube can't go to the front sprocket instead?

[@RideWithRen]

@@chrisolson8640 the front sprocket spins much faster than the rear one, which will cause more fling.

[@dereckrandell2458]

Have you seen the Tuturo system.

[@bestrestproducts648]

You mean the oiler that costs $30 more and is more complicated to install? Yes I've seen it. I see no advantage to it

[@dereckrandell2458]

I can't see how it is anymore complicated then the Nemo to install, the Tutoro oil dispenser has no other connections apart from the oil feed line which is the same as the Nemo. The only difference between the Nemo and the Tutoro is the Nemo has to be hand activated, while the Tutoro is activated by the bike in motion.

[@bestrestproducts648]

If you think the Tuturo is a better option, buy it. It seems that those who buy the Nemo have no problems executing the simple task of turning the unit 1/4 turn when they want to oil their chain. Personally I don't see a need for constant oiling. Others might find that a hassle, preferring to let the Turturo do the job for them.

[@2manysigns]

Great job on this vid !

[@wjjmlg]

What keeps the oil from just draining out?

[@davidhobson7851]

Vacuum

[@willjudice9560]

it does drain out. first year it worked great. now it just leaks all the time all over the floor.

[@sasapusica]

it is not good of the reservoir , and the tube goes across the oil filter , it would need to be removed when servicing

[@HidalgoRides]

Oh FFS, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. The video shows where I mounted if on my bike, and it's worked perfectly OK for several years. The reservoir DOES NOT need to be removed for servicing.

[@windinthewillows6248]

I know this video is quite old now, but wonder if anybody can help answer this question please. I want to mount the Nemo 2 on one my engine case bolts, but the black hose may touch the engine, will it melt, or is it capable of taking the hot engine heat?

[@bestrestproducts648]

Paul - the oil tube is plastic so if it's near the exhaust it will melt. Not recommended.

[@bestrestproducts648]

But if it's touching the side of the cylinders it may be ok. Depends on where it's touching. If you can't put your hand there, the oil line shouldn't be there.

[@windinthewillows6248]

Thank you for your reply. I’ve mounted it on my Africa Twin Adventure Sport, on the left side of the engine, just above the oil dip stick, using one of the engine side case cover bolts. I’ve achieved this, without the plastic pipe touching the engine, so should be ok. Cheers.

[@44787]

"My calibrated hand" :-D

[@larrystorm6374]

What is your policy for returns? The reason I ask, is because several on the forums say they would leak/ drip oil no matter how careful they were when they filled the cobra nemo. Also maybe you could do a video showing they best way to fill the cobra nemo chain oiler device.

[@bestrestproducts648]

"Several on the forums" don't know what they're talking about. If the Nemo is leaking oil it's because the user didn't fill it properly. Plain and simple, end of story. The thing they're missing is the final filling, all the way to the top, so the lube is up to the very top of the O-ring. Only then should you install the cap. You CAN'T do a partial refill. . In my garage sits my BMW F800GS with a Nemo. It's been sitting there for a couple months, the reservoir is full, and nary a drop of oil is on the ground. That's because I filled the reservoir properly. . There's already videos on the web showing how to fill a Nemo. Do a search. . As for returns, we have a 14-day return window for items that are in new condition. Defective items have exclusions. See our website.

[@JohnSmith-my2pn]

I have got it from Aliexpress for 15 bucks Gidibi and Cobrra are absolutely same products

[@bestrestproducts648]

No they're NOT the same product. Gibidi is a cheap Chinese counterfeit. Cobrra is made in Slovakia and is made like a precision instrument. The Chinese copy is has problems. I know this because people have reported problems with the Gibidi. They threw ended up throwing it away and bought the Cobrra. When you buy a counterfeit, you get poor quality.

[@mookyzook]

@@bestrestproducts648 You sell the Cobrra so you will say this. As an engineer I have seen both products and the Gidiall is made just as well. OK I don't like the fact that the Chinese copy everything but you must admit it's so much cheaper than the original. I have had one on the bike for about a year now with no problems.

[@bestrestproducts648]

@@mookyzook yes you can buy a cheap Chinese counterfeit knock-off. If you're comfortable with that lack of manufacturing integrity, go for it.

[@seanconery8836]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@TheRunereaper]

This product has so many drawbacks when compared to the Scottoiler. The Scottoiler is fully automatic, operating only and always when the engine is running. It has a fully adjustable flow-rate and can be mounted down to 60 degrees from the vertical due to its cylindrical reservoir. It has 2 alternative optional magnum reservoirs, giving 3000 miles range. The original vacuum (v) system is comparably priced to this one and is fitted by BMW as their preferred option. Scottoiler really is the best design and execution and I have yet to see someone do better.

[@bestrestproducts648]

TheRunereaper - sounds like you're a paid marketing hack working for Scottoiler. Which explains the tone of your message. Which means your post is without merit. The Nemo is a great little product that does the same job as the scottoiler, but at a fraction of the price. The Nemo is easier to install, doesn't require vacuum lines or electrical wiring, and it only oils when you want it. The scottoiler makes a mess because it's always dispensing lube, which is why it needs such a big reservoir. I can only assume that your post is the result of the scottoiler company feeling threatened by the Nemo.

[@TheRunereaper]

I'm sorry to have given such offence. I have no association with Scottoiler, I'm just a biker of 50 years. I can accept the argument that the Nemo may be marginally easier to install. The tricky bits are cleaning the swinging arm well enough to keep the delivery tube mountings permanently in place and also to compensate for tube movement under shock loading. That problem is common to both and anybody with a bit of common dog can sort it out. The original vacuum system can be problematic with modern fuel injected engines but Scottoiler run a website detailing tapping points for virtually every machine on the market (KTM 390 excepted!), usually off the MAP sensor line. The price of a V system Scottoiler is $135, sometimes less, so the Nemo is a pretty hefty fraction of that, 7/8? The standard reservoir is about the same size as the Nemo, but Scottoiler supplies 2 alternative bulk storage systems for running long distances without refilling. It only oils the chain with the engine running and it lubricates it constantly. I get 25k miles out of every chain (road bike), although I usually change the front sprocket at 8k to reduce chain wear. I don't have a mess on the garage floor or the back wheel because I've got used to adjusting the flow, dependent on seasonal average temperature. I've fitted the Scottoiler on every bike I've ever had (BMW GS excepted!) and it has saved me a fortune. I can only speak as I find.

[@mgml]

@@TheRunereaper I don't have a Cobrra oiler. I heard about them and watched this to get more info'. I've had however 3 Scottoilers on 3 different bikes. I didn't buy any of them, the bikes came with them fitted. The were a whole bunch of trouble and hassle, none of them worked reliably and they were a pig to fill up. I spent so much time messing about with them I just eventually gave up and left them empty. I'm not a clueless mechanic I know the principle of how they work. I did later get a Motrax Lubetronic, later called PD Oiler which was excellant, easy to fill, good capacity, only worked when running. I wouldn't hesitate to get another. Having now seen the Cobrra I think I'll go with it. It's not needed for the oil to be constantly running. A quick turn now and then would be fine. Obviously you'd not give it a turn having just parked up for the night but while riding. No need to get oil on any floor.

[@TheRunereaper]

@@mgml First, I'm not a Scottoiler salesman. I'm surprised you had so much trouble, particularly as it was on all 3 bikes. I've now had 5, 4 of which I fitted myself, and never had any problem other than the useless sticky tube mounting pads which constantly came adrift if they were in the vicinity of any sign of tube flex i.e. swinging arm. Thin cable ties fixed that. I should also add that the original dual injector body was prone to leakage but they have now introduced the Scorpion which has solved all the problems. I only ever use blue oil and fill directly to the reservoir without using the neoprene attachment. Faster, easier and no leakage. I've only ever used the vacuum type and cannot comment on the electronic version. Good luck with your Cobra, auto chain oiling is the way to go. My son has done 30k miles on one chain, although he changes the front sprocket every 5k and the rear at 10k. He still has loads of life in his chain.

[@mgml]

@@TheRunereaper yeah I know it's a quality product, most people seem to get on ok with them. But they're way more complicated than anything else. If you want a fully automatic unit like the scottoiler the pd oiler does as good if not better with way less complication. I'm not saying nor suspect you have a scottoiler connection.

[@TomBartram-b1c]

Still not as good as a scottoiler as you have to remember to operate it every few ride hours.

[@bestrestproducts648]

Depends on your perspective... the Scottoiler is always lubing as long as the bike is running, and that can lead to too much oil and that means messy overspray. Every bike with a Scottoiler I've seen has a puddle underneath when it's parked. Nemo leaves the decision (to oil the chain) up to you. That means your oil supply goes further, less oil is wasted, and the bike stays cleaner. As for "remembering to operate it every few hours", that's not really an issue. Once a day is enough. Most riders can handle that mental challenge.

[@TomBartram-b1c]

Overoiling never happens to my bikes and I obv have nothing to gain by saying this. I set the flow at 2 on a scale of 8 or so and forget about it for weeks on end. It helps that I live in the UK where we don't have seasons. it's 50-60 degrees and damp all year round.@@bestrestproducts648

[@bestrestproducts648]

@@TomBartram-b1c OK, that's great. There's more than one way to brush your teeth, cut your food, or oil your chain. But you must get over the idea that an automatic oiler is somehow superior to an on-demand oiler. It's not, instead it's just a different delivery system. Oil your chain when you want. It's not hard. Thousands of riders have figured it out. One big advantage to the Nemo is that it's independent of the bike's vacuum or electrical system. No need to hook up vacuum tubes, run wires, etc. Just bolt it on.

[@garysmall3094]

Would you be using a scottoiler bottle to fill the reservoir? 😂🤣👍

[@mookyzook]

Yes but you get into the habit of doing it whereas I know lots of people with Scotoilers who had dry chains because they forget to top them up....

[@no-eb2xx]

That nozzle will get eaten up by the moving chain and sprocket. This is not a proper install.

[@bestrestproducts648]

Sorry to burst your expert bubble, but you're wrong. Nozzle does not get "eaten up" by chain and sprocket. I've been running it this way for years. Nozzle is strong and healthy with no signs of wear.

[@no-eb2xx]

@@bestrestproducts648 Great! That doesn't mean it' can't happen. It's too close to the entry point. My manual doesn't show the install like that.

[@DJ0KNUF]

Not a big fan of this product. It got stuck in my chain/sprocket

[@HidalgoRides]

Don't blame the Nemo, blame yourself. If it got stuck that's because you failed to install the Nemo as shown in this video... You didn't properly secure the metal bracket to the swing arm.

[@DJ0KNUF]

@@HidalgoRides I did the exact same thing on the exact same bike. But this product is just not for offloading. The rubber hose got stuck, the rest is still in place.

[@HidalgoRides]

The hose and bracket are down there where they can get damaged by rocks, sticks, and small animals. That's true for any brand of chain oiler. . You got enough hose in your kit for two installs, depending on where you mounted the reservoir. If you need more hose you can order it on the website. . I've been using the Nemo on my F8GS for several years. I've replaced the hose once. Considering the places I ride, that's a pretty good track record.

[@DJ0KNUF]

@@HidalgoRides I know and That exactly what I did. I'm just saying that I'm not a big fan of this product. Especially not when ofroading

[@HidalgoRides]

@@DJ0KNUF so lemme see if I got this right - your complaint isn't about the way the Nemo oiled your chain. Instead it's about the fact that when you were off-roading it got damaged. If you ride off-road shit happens, things get bent, damaged, or broken. Don't blame the product for off-road mishaps. . Like I said, I've been using the Nemo for years. My riding buddy uses one on his F650GS. Yes, we've both replaced the oil tube once. Mine was due to trail damage. His was because where he routed the tube it got cut by his folding centerstand. . The Nemo is designed to serve as a convenient method of oiling the chain (on the street or off-road). Because it's mounted on the swing arm it's a potential target for trail damage. That comes with the price of admission.

[@ksundar6594]

Should the oil hose go down progressively or can it go back up and over obstacles? The way I'm setting it up there is not a way to make it go straight down and has to climb up over obstructions to go back down.

[@bestrestproducts648]

It can go up and over, round 'n round if needed. Because the system doesn't depend on gravity to feed the lube, the way you route the hose is up to you. Just be sure to allow enough slack for tge swing arm to go thru its full range of motion, which includes full compression and full extension. If you make things too tight the tube will pull out of place.

[@ksundar6594]

@@bestrestproducts648 that's very helpful. Thanks. Also, is the hose heat resistant? Mounting it in a go kart and it'll be near the engine.

[@bestrestproducts648]

@@ksundar6594 I wouldn't route the hose near a header. It'll stand up to moderate engine heat (I have mine mounted on the side of the engine case), but not heat from an exhaust pipe.