Nemo Dragonfly 2 Review video - tent FAIL!

[@method9787]

I've had this tent for over a year and been in storms,heavy winds etc and never had any issues whatsoever like you have you've clearly not set the tent up correctly!!! I also tend to agree with the many people on here with brilliant reviews of the tent !!!

[@sierraseb3311]

I wish you had added at the end how Nemo Customer Service addressed your problems. Did you get a refund or new replacement tent? Was dealing with Nemo non stressful? Thanks for this review. Sorry your trip was ruined.

[@Colby168]

It’s the one issue I have with the Nemo tents is you can’t batten down the hatches so to speak. I get the venting or whatever the reason you can’t pull down the fly. I have the Dagger and same big gap in the fly going almost halfway up the side. To those say to put the head end into the wind. I’ve fallen asleep with no wind and woken up at one in the morning with crazy wind so sometimes you don’t even know which way the wind is going to come from. I’m a huge Nemo fan but was disappointed when I set my new Dagger up and couldn’t pull down the fly. Thinking of getting a Big Agnes for my next tent for this one sole reason.

[@melissamccarthy4955]

It looks like you have a lot of stuff stuffed in all the tent pockets. That can't help in those conditions.

[@mountainmastersuk9909]

All very lightweight bags for tent pegs, sleeping bag, jacket, mat etc. They take up space when not compressed but are not heavy at all. The pockets weren’t over heavy.

[@AndrewJamesKirkwood]

I don’t wish to cause any trouble, but the windspeed looks to be far greater than the 20mph you claim it was - I checked it up on the Beaufort scale - and you don’t appear to have erected the tent as per the instructions either, you put it up the wrong way round, the front of the tent is supposed to face into the wind, and not the back with the cut-away as you have, so of course it all blew down, because the wind was being funnelled into the tent with no way of escaping, which was only compounded because you don’t appear to have staked the tent out properly, if at all - I’ve watched every KZbin video regarding this tent, and everyone else is very happy with it, and you are the only one who has had a bad experience with it - So I found the video actually very useful, and I still plan on buying it, thank you.

[@The_golden_charlie]

I'm 59, had loads of tents and used them in Scotland, USA, Baffin Island, French/Spanish Pyrenees. Vaude are superb, Vango are excellent, Big Agnes 2p seedhouse was interesting, but I'll only buy Hilleberg now. Not the lightest, but I can sleep at night, and never worry about failure.

[@patrkbukly]

In my experience attaching the velcro strips is what causes this. If they are not attached, the rainfly material is able to move over the poles and “give” allowing movement in the tent to be back and forth always returning to and maintaining it’s overall shape and protection. Also important to recognize it as a lightweight backpacking tent and not a mountaineering tent. Each has purpose but not interchangeable.

[@jenyates3033]

It's a super lightweight tent, it's just not up to the conditions you used it under. Totally unsuitable for UK mountain conditions.

[@Braquemartable]

Hello, I had the same experience with a Nemo Firefly 2p. Mine failed at the main center pole, towards the feet and right before the junction. It did a tear in the rainfly with the sharp edge of the broken aluminium ... Very disappointed. Thanks for your video mate

[@xXPK26realXx]

I tested the Nemo Dragonly (Bikepack 2P) in similar conditions. But I had a completely different experience, the tent held up perfect through a very windy night. One tip: If possible put the head-end not in the wind direction, than the wind can't get into the tent. I very stormy conditions guy out the middle of the head-end as well. Edit: Here is a video of it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJ-wi2hoqbB1f9U

[@johnnomcjohnno1957]

I just learnt today that the bikepack version of the Dragonfly uses DAC NSL poles, which are stronger than the NFL poles that the regular Dragonfly uses. I wonder if that makes the difference?

[@xXPK26realXx]

@johnnomcjohnno1957 Absolutely possible! In the interim, we've encountered storms far more intense than the one depicted in my video. The tent is very reliable from my experience.

[@davelakin3821]

Thanks for letting us know about your experience! I've noted this and will be avoiding. Thanks 😊

[@mortenandersen6108]

Anyone know if this problem have been fixed in the newer Osmo version? I mean if they changed the way the rainfly is attached to the poles? Or do you know if this problem is also on the dagger?

[@edmundoa1935]

Wow. Did you attach the guy lines? (in this case the loop at the center of that side of the fly).

[@miramoneric6988]

Hi man ,ok not fun what happened,but the first claim is for you ,the positioning of the tent is totally wrong ,big ventilation face to the wind .and seems the wind is far more 20 m/ hour .

[@82ogo]

I agree that this tent is not suitable for windy conditions. There is a Hilleberg Freestanding Dome Tent with independent 3 poles that I personally think is suitable for these weather situations.

[@mastercarpenterltd]

Cheers for the heads up, I was just about yo buy one of these too! 😬😬👍

[@dnorm]

I was looking at this for an all rounder.. kayaking/ biking/ hiking tent... would definitely need modifying in that area. Every review I've seen as commented on those to small pole straps would have been better to have the same clips as the inner.

[@HikingWithMartin]

Shame that happened, you could get it repaired at Scottish mountain gear probably wouldn’t be too expensive and you can send the bill to nemo

[@wifebeaterz]

Using a lightweight tent for a windy open space in the mountains... Seems as well thought out as your messy, not trimmed garden.

[@sessiondrummer]

😆 Well done for a top quality comment 👏🏻

[@spo72]

Nemo does state this is a back8ng packing tent and not a mountain tent , I had a similar experience with the another well know American brand these tents are designed for thru hikers , I do understand as I was upset when I did the same .

[@DaemonViews]

Good to know that staying with hilleberg is not a bad decision. Ok if I'm a 1 day walk away from things or other people could shelter me but not in Scandinavia or Scotland where you can be a week with a broken tent in nasty weather.

[@tlister67]

Thanks, guess I’ll stick with my heavy tent

[@davidlenneberg4303]

Hi, thanks for this review I was going to buy the one man tent for Bikepacking across Australia because it was light weight now of course I will be looking for a different tent cheers 👍

[@gregory63412]

Sorry for your tent. But thanks for sharing the experience.

[@peckshadow]

Great video. What tent did you replace this with?

[@mountainmastersuk9909]

Thanks. An MSR access 2. Absolutely bomproof and zero issues in bad weather. 👍🏻

[@MiriamKennedy]

@@mountainmastersuk9909 I went with the MSR Access 2 for colder weather. I’ve the MSR Hubba Hubba for 3 season camping and I love it but I do want to find something a little lighter for multi day hikes and cycles. The quest continues!!

[@googleuser25]

@@mountainmastersuk9909 I just googled the MSR Access 2, but I see it's a 4 season tent. Doesn't that get too hot in the summers? Thank you for you r reviw btw, saved me a bad purchase. I can only afford 1 tent, so it would have been disastrous.

[@uknighthuntingvision93]

I'll stick with my Fjallaven abisko lite 1. It never lets me down.

[@leewilson3557]

Great review. Obviously the American weather is better. I was Torn between this and the hubba hubba. Glad I made the right choice.

[@profd65]

American weather is better? Kind of a big country. Our Washington State weather is as bad as England's.

[@Wfhii]

Excellent video !

[@zarlydoug]

Has NEMO reached out to you at all about this?

[@mountainmastersuk9909]

I initially spoke to them and eventually obtained a refund. They said that they wanted to learn more about what went wrong and said they’d contact me to have it sent back and would also send me some new European versions to try which were apparently going to be more suitable: But, nothing came of this disappointingly so I still have it sitting in the loft, broken and no European versions to review.

[@davidhale1568]

@@mountainmastersuk9909 worth knowing about the poor customer servis

[@ulyssepinon9177]

@@davidhale1568 Wait - He got a refund…

[@audungillerdalen]

Wow - just for sunny weather in a park 😳🥺

[@me.my.son.and.i]

Thank you for saving a mistake purchase

[@teutates619]

Very similar, and even a blatant copy perhaps of the Big Agnes Copper Spur. Exists as a bike pack like this one also. Not your mountain type of tent, but will definitely stand the weather. It also comes with less peggs though, ridiculous!

[@xXPK26realXx]

Definitively not a copy of the copper spur.

[@alaskanborn3459]

Rogen hilleberg is the way too go

[@jepulis6674]

A tent you must turn when wind direction changes :) Thats fun.

[@method9787]

It's obviously alot windier than your stating as well!!!

[@buckeyesfan8659]

The first version of this tent was great. I went to a school we were trained in outdoor activities and guiding. Our instructor would by now equipment every couple years and said that the dragon was his favorite tent in the field. However it was the first version, so this is sad to see.

[@natureshowshorts3330]

Nice👍