Nemo Hornet 2P Tent (Re-Designed)

[@ZINCONNUS]

Hello from France my friend, i buy this tent one day ago, and will use it this summer travelling on the Saint James Road, around one thousand kilometers, your presentation video is very clear , and it's seems that it will be a good tent for my trip. Thanks a lot

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Excellent, Nemo designs great tents. Stay safe on you travels.

[@bposey69]

You said take it to Ocala. That's literally my backyard. Nice to see a fellow Florida backpacker 🤘

[@WILDONTHETRAIL]

Glad I found this review on the updated 2019 version. I almost bought the old one earlier this evening. Now I understand why retailers are dumping the older version. Great vid👍

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Outstanding, thank you for commenting.

[@WILDONTHETRAIL]

The American Backpacker, you’re welcome👍

[@tynature3598]

Great video! Great review! I've been using this tent for a few months now and I absolutely love it. It's very light and durable.

[@WildlandExplorer]

Just got mine as well as a 'backup' or foul weather tent. I got the packed weight down to 34 oz (2 lbs 2 oz) by switching to DAC V-stakes and leaving the extra guy-out cordage at home (I don't really camp in exposed places). I'm sure one could get it down to exactly 2 lbs by switching to Ti stakes and leaving the tent bag & pole bag at home. First test was in 3 days of freezing rain conditions and I stayed perfectly dry. Downright impressive for the price.

[@KartArt]

Same here. I just got mine a few weeks ago and switched to the mini groundhog stakes and ditched the stake bag. Mine weighed out at 36 oz but I left the extra guy out cordage in by accident.....will have to take that out and re-weigh it.

[@peter1971]

I just got this tent on sale at REI for $277... My first small, lightweight tent... I got it for bikepacking. It went up easy. I got the footprint that goes with it, and if you don't set it up on level ground you tend to slide very easily. I imagine without the footprint it wouldn't be as slippery. I'm glad I made this purchase, thank you for the video!

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Excellent, the price has also come down since I purchased it.

[@lionkill666]

Thx for pointing out the nemo's zipper workings. Big Ags seems not to be able/willing to fix this, so if you say this tent stays dry in the wet, I think it's my next purchase.

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

It is my go to tent until something better is designed 👍

[@anthonytroxell]

Great review! Going to be picking this up soon.

[@jad2484]

Nice!!! Nemo finally brought the rainfly all the way down to cover the inner tent on the ends instead of that bullshit "cresent moon" shape they used to have that allowed rain water to drench the bath tube floor portion on the ends. 👍

[@milesritter1410]

You say you fit in the tent, but you weren't laying flat. I don't sleep with my knees in the air like that. I would side sleep with the knees bent probably. Does the tent give you the room for that since it narrows as it getd towards the foot box of the body?

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Thank you for watching and commenting. I am able to fully layout, knees not bent, in the tent with me on my air mat. The tent is by no means the Tajmahal but it provides me the comfort I need to get a good nights sleep. Some may want more based on their physical stature or other needs. The dual door design lets you put much of your non essential gear outside the vestibule, both sides, which is protected by the rain fly. The redesign of this tent gave it the interior volume boost it needed, especially around the headspace area. If you require more space I would recommend that you look into the NEMO Dragon Fly. The Dragon fly is a larger tent which is more comparative to the Big Agnes Copper Spur which also is a good quality tent. I am not a spokesperson for NEMO nor did they send me this tent. I purchased it and I can empathize with you wanting to know if the hard earned money you will be spending on it will make you comfortable and safe. If you need further please let me know. Comment sections add to the information on videos I put out. It educates those wondering about the same question. Knowledge is power, thanks again for watching.

[@busheater944]

Great review! Thank you for covering the zipper on the fly, the zip on my Copper Spur broke due to it getting caught in the fly too many times (personally think it’s a bad design). Way too expensive to get repaired v getting a new tent so I’m looking at this one!

[@MaryannHazel]

Nice review. Thinking about this one myself. I have the BA Copper Spur UL1, but 2.8 pounds is wearing on me - especially over long hauls. Thanks for doing this!

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Thank you, it is a great tent and my last trip into the Blue Range Primitive proved that. Looking at your channel, I can see that you have backcountry experience and this tent will be a nice addition to your gear. Thanks for watching

[@MaryannHazel]

@@TheAmericanBackpacker - Thanks for taking a peek at my channel! :) I could really use the lighter tent this week - heading out for a section of the Tahoe Rim Trail. The snow has been crazy here this year. An order will be the first thing on my list when I get back!

[@MaryannHazel]

@@TheAmericanBackpacker - I received the Nemo Hornet Elite on Monday. Taking it out on its first excursion on Friday. I'm looking forward to a lighter backpack!

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

How did it work for you?

[@MaryannHazel]

@@TheAmericanBackpacker- Impressive you remembered! I love the tent! Not thrilled with the footprint, so I'm making my own. The one I bought will be going back. 9 ounces is way too heavy as an ultralight footprint. I'm 'processing' the Tyvek this week so it is less crinkly and easier to work with putting the grommets in over the weekend. And it will meet my specs! I really like the extra room in the tent so I can bring all my camera gear into the tent without fear of crushing it in the middle of the night. Not thrilled with having to ensure the stakes are solid. The BA is free-standing, so I could fudge it with rocks and anchor it down enough. Not so with the Elite. That thing needs solid stakes which could prove challenging when you are bedding down on solid granite. But I'll figure something out. Sorry for the book.

[@johncaban4310]

This or the Big Agnes Tiger wall UL2? Looking to purchase on Black Friday. New to backpacking at 51. Thanks for your video....

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Outstanding, 👍

[@johncaban4310]

@@TheAmericanBackpacker Do you like the Big Agnes better?

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

I have used Big Agnes and they make a good quality tents. Big Agnes makes a variety of tents with some having the Mtn Glo lighting system. Since I have used and field tested both, (Big Agnes and Nemo), I favor Nemo tents. Big Agnes tend to cost a little more and they are slightly heavier when you compare each of their UL tents. If you purchase a Big Agnes you will have a high quality tent, but for me, I currently prefer the Nemo tents until something better comes out.

[@johncaban4310]

@@TheAmericanBackpacker Thanks for your feedback. Was in Ocala last year and hiked around Juniper Springs. Was a good time. But most of my time hiking is in the White Mountains in NH. Did my first backpacking adventure in Cutler Maine at the Bold Coast trail. If you are ever in New England check it out. Feels like your in a different world. Thanks again for putting in the time to make these videos.

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Thanks John, I used to live in New Hampshire, (Londonderry), and I have spent some time in the white mountains. It is a great wilderness area and I miss being close by it. I agree that Ocala and the White Mountains are 2 different wilderness eco-systems. I definitely plan on heading back to the White Mountains in the future. Take care and stay safe on your wilderness adventures.

[@joe_hikes]

Good review Andy. I looked at that tent when I was replacing my MSR Hubba Hubba. I ended up getting a Gossamer Gear, The Two. It's similar to the Zpacks Duplex, but it's made from Silpoly instead of Dyneema.

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

I have heard good things about Gossamer they make some great outdoor gear to include tents. I have not used any of their gear but that is part of what my channel is about. Trying out new and innovative backpacking gear. Thanks Joe.

[@stephtraveler7378]

Great review.

[@rodneymcqueen1706]

I'm currently in the market for a new tent, this was super helpful, cheers

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

After 3 adventures using this tent I am very happy with it. Thank you.

[@kevinguzda1131]

Great review! I just bought a Big Agnes Copper Spur HV UL3 for trips with my daughter, we both use 25 inch pads so I think it will be a good choice. However, I’d like to also get a tent for solo trips or when it’s just me carrying it..I’m torn between the new Nemo Hornet 2P , the Dragonfly 2p, or the 2P version of the Copper Spur HV. I’m also 6’3 215 so all things considered despite the extra 8-10 oz over the Hornet which tent would you recommend as a second solo tent? Thanks for taking the time to give your opinion!

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Hello, and thank you. If I had to narrow down your choices it would be either the Nemo Hornet or the Big Agnes Copper Spur. So the question now is which one. It depends on what you are looking at in reference to space, mobility, and ease of setup. The Copper Spur HV will definitely give you more space and mobility than the Nemo Hornet. Ease of setup will go to the Hornet. I have used both tents and my choice would be the Nemo Hornet (re-designed version). The Copper Spur provides more room for me than the Nemo but the Hornet is a lighter weight tent that sets up quickly and provides me the necessary protection and adequate space, (for my needs) I need in a wilderness area. I have enough space in the Nemo to have a good nights rest and the two doors allow me to store the gear that I bring into a wilderness area. It is also a lower profile tent which I like. I recently returned from an adventure into the Blue Range Primitive in Arizona. That trip was a great test for the Hornet. The temperatures got down into the mid to upper 20s with freezing rain and I stayed dry and warm in my sleeping bag. We are both approximately the same size and my choice again is the Hornet but if you want more space than go with the Big Agnes Copper Spur HV. The Copper Spur is also more expensive than the Nemo Hornet not that it should be a factor in your decision but for some it may. It’s not an easy choice but I think you’ll be happy with the Nemo Hornet but ultimately I think for you it will depend on the space and mobility you will need especially if you carry a lot of gear. If you need further please let me know.

[@kevinguzda1131]

The American Backpacker thanks for the insight, much appreciated.. Yes, I’m leaning towards the Nemo Hornet as well.. I guess my only concerns are I’ve never used a semi freestanding tent before and I will have to use wooden tent platforms at times in the White Mountains of New Hampshire. I always stake my tents out anyways as you have to if you use a rainfly..Also, I don’t use a ground sheet so durability is always a worry. Lastly , I know in the old Hornet there was some issues with rain coming through where the rainfly wasn’t adequate but I think they fixed that with the updated Hornet..

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Using the wooden tent platforms would cause an issue when setting up this tent. Do you have to use these platforms in the White Mountains? On my adventure there I do not recollect having these platforms. Maybe there is another route you can use. As for the rain, I had no issue with water getting into my tent, (Hornet) on my adventure into the Blue Range Primitive. It rained one evening with very cold temps and I was dry and warm.

[@kevinguzda1131]

The American Backpacker I will google ways to stake out on wooden platforms, I know there are ways to do it but just not familiar.. A lot of the backcountry tent-sites in the whites have wood platforms so while not always the case it limits your options if you can’t set up a tent on them..

[@JedidiahCB]

@@kevinguzda1131 check out "fishbone tent peg" on amazon or similar sites. They're spade shaped anchors you can put between the planks of most wooden platforms.

[@idahoan_hooligan8212]

Great video. You're gonna be a big channel for sure.

[@migke777]

Nice review! Thanks!

[@orthodoxhiker9287]

Thanks! I've been looking at this one!

[@wanderingaloudwithmark3057]

Thanks for the video. While it is advertised as a free standing. The fact that there are guys outs at the foot of the tent makes not a true free stand. But other than that the weight savings is great. Subbed for the field test.

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Outstanding, thanks

[@lionkill666]

I find that even freestanding tents need to be staked, to take advantage of full floor space, so for me there is no way around them. Mini ground hogs paired with titanium shepherd hooks is what I carry.

[@coreysmith9923]

Great review!!! I have a Nemo Meta 2 , they make quality gear. Hope you enjoy your new purchase and can’t wait to see follow up review.

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Thank you, Nemo puts out some great tents, and I am looking forward on trying it in Ocala soon.

[@m.hernandez1404]

Could hear the Sandhill cranes in the background.

[@dragons_of_liberty]

Thank you so much for posting this. I just got this on sale at REI and it's my 1st real backpacking tent; my 1st tent was a $20 one off of Amazon that doesn't have any stakes. Found your video when I was trying to figure out how to set up the tent. Can anyone tell me- I only see 2 stakes down at the foot end; are you supposed to put stakes anywhere else? the tent came with several.

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

The tent should have come with 6 stakes, 2 for the foot end, 2 for the head end, and 1 stake for each of the doors. (The 4 corners of the tent need a stake and one for each door, total of 6). Enjoy the tent, I have had it on (3) adventures and it has not let me down.

[@dragons_of_liberty]

@@TheAmericanBackpacker Thanks for replying so quickly. I used the tent for the 1st time last night and was able to get it set up and figure out where all the stakes go.

[@0zthehikingsailor]

Good review and I love this tent too. But I would have liked too see you sit in it with your airpad. The astral for example is 76 inches long and 3.5 inches thick so I think that your head would have been touching the ceiling and you would have less room laying down because if the hieght. Is it possible to do a follow up with a Nemo Astral 25 airpad please with your revised thoughts? Thank you. Or send me a PM 🇨🇦⚓🇺🇸

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Thank you for commenting. I did a field test on the Hornet in the Ocala National Forest a couple of weeks after this video. In that video I was on my air mat. I posted it on my you tube channel. I am not sure if you watched that video but I had head space room. The tent is definitely not a 2 person tent and for me it is comfortable and sets up quick. I am heading out in a week to the Blue Range Primitive and I will try to comment further during my adventure video on your question. If you need further please feel free to drop me an email at [e-mail] and we can discuss it further. Thanks again.

[@0zthehikingsailor]

@@TheAmericanBackpacker Shame the Elite doesn't use the second spreader 😥

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Yes it is. I am guessing they were looking to reduce weight which probably for some is a big sell point. I look more toward the design and durability of tents. Weight is not a huge factor to me even though it is in the top 3. Backpacks are the same way. My experiences with all types of backpacking gear over the years is that the lighter they get the less durable they become. That is not true in all cases though. There is a material called Cuben fiber that some tent manufacturers use which is extremely durable but the cost is too high for many to buy. .

[@XxPetitNuagexX]

one question. i have the same tent but for one person. the tent bottom is not the thick material i know from tents. it looks like the tent cover wich lets through water when u touch it. so i am wondering if the tent bottom is waterproof when camping on wet ground?

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

The floor is made with a 15D Sil/Nylon Ripstop material which is waterproof. If the tent floor is constantly immersed in water then condensation from the difference in temperature from the outside and warmer inside will allow wetness to enter over time. That is why if you are in your tent at night sleeping your warm breath causes some moisture on the inside of the tent walls to accumulate. This is based on the difference between the outside and inside temperatures. I have used this tent on many adventures in both warm and cold climates. I have also experienced freezing temps and rain on these expeditions. I am very happy with its performance and it has become my go to tent for all my expeditions except those where snow is falling. In that case I would use a 4 season tent. When you set up your tent make sure you place it on the highest ground possible in your basecamp. If it rains the terrain around your tent will allow for proper drainage. The advantage of Nylon/Sil tents is that they are lightweight and durable but they have their limitations. Also, if you are in a rugged environment be careful on where you erect your tent. Take time to clear away damaging debris, ( sticks and rocks) that will cause these things to puncture the floor of your tent.

[@XxPetitNuagexX]

@@TheAmericanBackpacker thank u so much for this detailed answer!!

[@Bikepacking]

cool looking for a good review on this tent

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

It would be a nice edition to your gear especially if you are Bikepacking. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@goldenteacher5g626]

Thank you for maaking this video! Im thinking of getting this tent. Is theres a way to set it up in the rain and not getting wet? Can you also roll up the rainfly halfway for star gazing at night?

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Thank you for commenting, The tents rainfly cannot be rolled up. If you want to star gaze then the rain fly would have to be off. As for setting up the tent in the rain. You and the tent will get wet.unless you have a canopy over you.

[@goldenteacher5g626]

@@TheAmericanBackpacker thank you so much for the reply! Still a very nice ultralight tent, im comparing this and the msr freelight 2 but i think if im going to pick, ill get the hornet elite. Thank you again and have a great day!

[@alandavis9180]

I bought this tent several years ago, sight unseen and couldn't move it on quick enough. I'll admit being seduced by the weight for the size but the thing is a house of straw. Could not imagine it enduring a storm above the treeline. It might be fine for well protected campsites but not for serious hiking.

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Alan, I appreciate your comments, but I have used this tent in several adventures with basecamp areas above the tree line. These adventures have encompassed different wilderness terrains. It has held up exceptional well. My experiences with this new design has made this my go to tent until something better comes out. I am sure someone, if not Nemo, will have something new in the future. Thanks for commenting and giving your opinion.

[@kampersadventures958]

Really good review. Just subscribed, liked and hit the bell. Like you style and length of review.

[@m14708]

Great review Andy... I currently use a Big Agnes copper spur.. any opinions on quality between the two tents... thanks again

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

I own a Copper Spur UL2 with MtnGlo and it is a great tent. I have used it on many expeditions and it is a durable and high quality tent as well. The main difference would be in the weight and with the Nemo being smaller. The Copper Spur is a true free standing tent whereas the Nemo is not. You have a very good tent with both having the same high quality with different features.

[@naufalarq6774]

Hi, is this tent strong enough againts high wind or storm?

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

This tent has its limitations. It is a 3 season tent and it will hold up in moderate winds. As for storms, it is the same. I have been in it during some good down pours here in Florida with no problems.

[@naufalarq6774]

@@TheAmericanBackpacker thanks, nice review!

[@totoxahc]

What is the purpose of the cutout on the rain fly (13:02)?

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

It lightens the weight of the tent. The cut out also allows for the condensation between the rainfly and tent to vent out quicker.

[@totoxahc]

@@TheAmericanBackpacker What about the cold weather? Would I feel the cold weather in my head or feet?, I want to buy a tent and I like this model because it is light and not too expensive but that cutout just...

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Most tents will protect you from weather elements except cold temperatures. I have used this tent in freezing temperatures (Blue Range Primitive), and what kept me warm was my sleeping bag. This tent is a (3) season tent not a (4) season tent. A (4) season tent will have a more reinforced structure (tent poles), to give it more strength in efforts to help prevent snow from collapsing your tent due to the weight of the snow. This is a great tent and it is my go to tent for now until something better comes out in the market. You should consider your sleeping gear, (sleeping bag, clothing, etc.), when it comes to staying warm. If you are going to backpack and camp in the snow then look at getting a 4 season tent for more structural reinforcement. Even with a 4 season tent you will still need a good sleeping gear, (i.e. sleeping bag etc.) to keep warm.

[@totoxahc]

@@TheAmericanBackpacker Thanks!

[@marylousherman5471]

I'm not so concerned with staying warm as with staying dry....seems counterintuitive to cut away part of the rain fly. ..?

[@DansVoyage]

Great review! I review outdoor products as well and I love the detail and format of this video. I know you mentioned the tent was plenty roomy for just you, but how do you think two 6 foot tall men would fit in the tent? Would it be too cramped, or do you think it would be doable on a multi-day backpacking trip?

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Thank you, I will tell you that (2) 6 foot tall people in this shelter system will not work. I would highly recommend looking at a three person tent. Most tents will specify 1, 2 or 3 person capacities but that would be for those individuals of average size or less. Look at the NEMO Dragonfly or Big Agnes Copper Spur 2P they will provide more room. Your best bet would be the 3P tent. In a situation where you are with someone else and pack weight is an issue one may carry the tent and the other individual could carry other essential gear thus distributing weight if one shelter system is desired for your adventure. That is just a recommendation. If you like the Hornet I would say for each individual to have their own tent. Thank you for watching and commenting.

[@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING]

Nice video. ✌️

[@karupt422]

Do you work in management 🤔

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Retired

[@archivlad]

Just thank you! It really helps.

[@davida463]

Which gives you more room the new Nemo or the UL2?

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

I am not sure what the UL2 is. The NEMO Hornet 2P I did the review on is a 2 person ultra light. Can you please clarify further, thanks.

[@davida463]

The American Backpacker sorry - the big Agnes copper spur ul2

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

No problem, The Copper Spur UL2 will give you more space. The Copper Spur is a full free standing tent that has more interior space than the NEMO.

[@davidsedillo2743]

Very helpful, thank you sir.

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

Thank you

[@Bikepacking]

was there a place inside to hang a line to dry clothes

[@WildlandExplorer]

There are 4 loops inside on the ceiling. I routed cordage through them on my last trip and worked fine for drying out some socks & pants.

[@paulwilliamson2067]

Come on... You didn't really fit in that thing (8:50).

[@TheAmericanBackpacker]

I do fit in it and I have used it several times since this video most recently in Colorado. It is not the most spacious tent I have had but it is comfortable, light weight, and durable.