Neolithic Iberia - 5000 year old Idols and Megaliths! 🇵🇹 🇪🇸

[@antoniocruz8083]

During the worst of the pandemic no one was allowed out so I would sneak at sunset to ride my bike in the Sintra mountain, Portugal. One night I followed a trail and was startled by a 3meter high stone structure, which looked partly manmade. I was alone, at night and felt amazed that this thing existed only a few kms from my house. Later I learned that it was a neolithic structure, perfectly facing west, overlooking the ocean near the most western point in europe.

[@Survivethejive]

Wow I would have visited it when I was in Sintra had I known. Thanks for a great story

[@constatinexipalaeologus507]

Wow you're lucky to have such ancient artifacts around you but in Arizona I didn't ever have to sneak out. In our general area there was a Hohokam village but it's only 800 to 1000 yrs old. This tribe disappeared before 1492.

[@littledikkins2]

@@constatinexipalaeologus507 Would it be Besh Ba Gowah?

[@johnbell1396]

Good for you for going against authority! God bless you....from USA 🇺🇸.

[@jamesbael6255]

@@constatinexipalaeologus507 you're bad at math

[@TheMountainBeyondTheWoods]

I'm Portuguese and very much enjoy learning about the different European cultures, traditions and history. I appreciate your work and knowing more about Iberian history is great.

[@Traderjoe]

My wife was born in Portugal and lived there until she was 15 before moving to America and while I am not Portuguese, I have always been fascinated by Neolithic society and prehistory. I assumed that she was be curious about things like this, but alas, she has zero patience for it and won’t even look at it. Meanwhile I am pretty sure she had seen many Neolithic items as she grew up on farms there, but she doesn’t care an iota about it. What can I do?

[@theonewithnoname8137]

@@Traderjoe make it an obvious hobby and leave your readings and articles out. Tie it into something that she is interested in. Or just source it for her. DNA test... but that could be sensitive depending what side of the fence you sit on that one.

[@PauloPereira-jj4jv]

@@Traderjoe ... divorce and marry another 😂😂😂

[@vijaysura2874]

Portuguese maybe, but your English is unbelievable!

[@WTF-Blue]

@@ingmigueleduardo7 Dude wtf are u smoking cuz I want some of that...

[@elforeigner3260]

Looks like Yamnaya chads followed Conan’s advice: “kill the men, take the women”

[@sillyquiet]

@sneksnekitsasnek Which fits actually! Since what little actual historical attestations of the Cimmerians there are have them as an Indo-European nomadic steppe people in the 1st-2nd millennium BC, closely related to the so-called 'Scythians', and not the pseudo-Norse they are represented as in Conan.

[@rodrigogimenez-ricolaguna4913]

THat happened all over Europe and is fascinating for me since its not clear it was violent. What happened? All we can say is that in Spain there are 2 coexisting races: Women (older) and men (posterior)

[@grantwithers]

or castrate and enslave the men

[@lordcommandernox9197]

@@grantwithers Except they didn't, the war they had was not against the ostremni as you think (the megalithic peoples) but as luck would have it, against the people that had arrived a century before to conquer the territory, the Ophi (maybe Egyptian, maybe Minoan). Good guess anyways, however they didn't genghis khan or thanosed the megalithic culture they encountered, they became their custodians and from that alliance the Lusitani were born. Leukitania moe treba inte!

[@sillyquiet]

@Carlos Hernandez I was thinking more of the movie, but I seem to remember that Celtic connection from reading the books way back when. There were 'Picts' too, iirc, but I think they were painted cannibals?

[@JoeMFTorres]

I’ve always wondered about the ancient history of my fathers homeland, thank you for this.

[@LynxSouth]

Thanks for showing Spinster's Rock with the lambs playing around it. It made the rocks and their presence wherever in Europe feel like part of everyday human reality through the ages, instead of being just some huge isolated monument.

[@JonFrumTheFirst]

I just finished watching the whole video. This is very well done. I"ve been following the recent research on the Bell Beaker people for about ten years now, and I could see no mistakes here. For a one-man production, this is about as good as it gets. Thanks for all the effort.

[@DanDavisHistory]

What a fascinating time and place. Great film, cheers.

[@willmosse3684]

Hey man. Just discovered your videos on the Yamnaya and such. Great work. Going to read some of your books

[@DanDavisHistory]

@@willmosse3684 thanks very much, glad you enjoyed the videos. I hope you like my stories too. Cheers.

[@raffles7556]

Another great vid about our collective European history/ancestry Tom. Something very sinister going on when they feel the need to remove your content from Facebook. PS- purchased the Manannan Mac Lír T-shirt to show my support for your work

[@andrecro1]

As a Portuguese, it's amazing to see this kind of material!

[@JAG8691]

Agreed. I will definitely go visit some of the Megalithic sites on my next road trip.

[@goingfreenow3297]

How. I'm not Portuguese born, but when I visited there, I could see the stone built houses as part of visual historic importance.

[@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491]

it is in the national parks !!!!!

[@LordOfSweden]

Portugese today are middle-eastern

[@MW_Asura]

@@LordOfSweden 🤡

[@Steininger_Art]

Thumbnail: 10/10.

[@Survivethejive]

the people must have boobs

[@scottcantdance804]

@@Survivethejive is the thumbnail from a movie?

[@muktuk4866]

@@Survivethejive A man who knows his audience.

[@Adrian-vy5vn]

@@scottcantdance804 I wrongly thought for a second she was the witch from Conan the Barbarian but she is not.

[@scottcantdance804]

@@Adrian-vy5vn okay, I had to work super hard to figure this out, but it's Dana Gillespie in "The People that Time Forgot." When I was a kid, I had The Land That Time Forgot on VHS, but I've only ever seen a couple scenes from The People That Time Forgot, which is why I thought it looked familiar, but couldn't place it.

[@jackholloway1]

A decade ago almost to the day I was in Andalusia in southern Spain which has more dolmens than you can shake a stick at, the most impressive was called the Dolmen of Menga, which was built into a mound and went below ground. From the entrance you looked out over a plain and opposite is a gigantic rock or small mountain called peña de los enamorados, which looks like the head of a giant man on his back looking up at the sky. There must have been a religious significance to this

[@craigywaigy4703]

The fact that you note the "man on his back" is the significance eg a physically large and permanent monument that metaphorically expresses the age old question? In fact they are us! :)

[@Foxglove963]

Jack Holloway. Actually, there are three large dolmens at Antequera, the Menga dolmen, (built c 3500 BC) and Viera (c 3500 BC) and El Romeral (c 2500 BC) their positions are interrelated. The passage of the Menga dolmen is oriented to the Summer Solstice when it is above the Pena de los Enamorades mountain, which resembles a human head looking upwards, the mountain was sacred, for megalithic remains have been found there as also rock paintings. The Viera and El Romeral dolmens are oriented to the Mid Winter Solstice, which is the standard alignment of most dolmenic monuments. The beliefs of the builders was universally animistic and shamanic, which is not a religion and is far removed from institutionalised Abrahamic religion.

[@JBroughton2]

Hell yeah!!! I think I remember asking if you could make a video like this. This is awesome, never clicked so fast. Keep it up Jive, screw Facebook.

[@sigrungregerson8115]

Telegram is a great notification system, KZbin did not notify me. Another great video 😁

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

Give me the link, s'il vous plais...

[@wijse]

KZbin notificed me!

[@davidus9702]

@@karlgimmedatforfreemarx they follow StJ on Telegram. Btw, KZbin notified me as well.

[@sigrungregerson8115]

@@karlgimmedatforfreemarx There is a link in the video description to STJ linktree, there you will find his Telegram channel link.

[@ata3077]

Very nice video, greetings from Portugal!

[@mestrecice3776]

Another superb video! Many thanks from a Portuguese

[@MRYIMEN]

74% Portuguese here, poor EEF ancestors of mine got literally “haplocided” lol

[@FOLIPE]

Well then they aren't your ancestors, are they?

[@MRYIMEN]

@@FOLIPE I don’t carry their y-haplogrup, mine is R-U152 (R1b), but much of my autossomical dna comes from them

[@gianlucarossi5672]

What about the poor WHGs that were also nearly totally replaced by the EEF?

[@MRYIMEN]

@@gianlucarossi5672 yes ahaha but only in south Europe tho

[@danielaortiz8946]

@@FOLIPE Autosomally, they still are.

[@greensoulsufinur]

This is really cool info. Thanks 🇪🇸🇵🇹

[@harrietharlow9929]

Thank you for bringing a our ancient culture to a wider audience. I am fascinated by the Paeoithic and Mesolithic eras as well as anything Celtic.

[@yajna3987]

my family is from of andalusia and canarias in spain, so i loved this video, it was extremely interesting! i was hoping for a video on more mediterranean peoples from you for a very long time, ¡muchas gracias señor!

[@massinissaziriamazigh8122]

Do you think you have a little Guanches blood

[@yajna3987]

@@massinissaziriamazigh8122 not just a little, a lot haha

[@AleaRandomAm]

@@yajna3987 weren't guanches sent as slaves in America?

[@comfusedWorldpassanger3399]

First time I'm in here and I really like what you present. Unfortunately, there are many who want to destroy and distort our European history, which is why your research, and others like you, are so important. Thank you.

[@TomYawns]

holy shit i haven't been to your channel in many months and it's good to see your view count explode! congratulations man, it's great to see your important work is being seen instead of suppressed.

[@anthonyprince7989]

I am from Catalonia where we also have a lot of dolmens and iberian villages. Thanks for such an amazing video!

[@manuellemos3117]

Great video. Greatings from Portugal!

[@kariannecrysler640]

My second video of yours and I am delighted! The information you gather is wonderful. Thank you again for the time & effort to produce these videos!😊

[@3PercentNeanderhal]

Based on the thumbnail alone Neolithic Iberia looks ummm comfy. 10/10

[@danielfragoso7283]

3 percent huh, impressive but it doesnt compare to my 4%

[@TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods]

Another excellent presentation! Even though my paternal lineage in England can, be traced back almost 800 years to the same region, I recently found out that my paternal DNA is R-1b-M167, from the Pyrenees of northern Spain. Now I have some idea of how it got to Staffordshire...perhaps as much as a thousand years ago!

[@VitorEmanuelOliver]

I'm curious about the basque people, who till this day don't speak an Indo-European language. And the peoples that some suggest didn't have Indo-European cultures in the region until they were romanized

[@Survivethejive]

Basque might be descended from the language of the megalith builders

[@nurturetheoak]

@@Survivethejive Do you think the Basque language could belong in the same language family than the extinct Iberian language, or do you think they have different origins?

[@Survivethejive]

@@nurturetheoak I expect Iberian was IE

[@arat9144]

Yep, they were not IE. Basque people is a fact of that.

[@alicelund147]

Maybe EEF spoke languages related to Basque even far from Spain. Or it is a language of the WHG.

[@Dogovwar666]

Great vídeo. I live near by the cromeleque dos Almendres and that place is my " church"

[@claudiuspereira3194]

You provide very important historical information that is virtually unknown . Thank you.

[@desdichado-007]

The interesting thing about the westernmost EEF peoples is that they had elevated amounts of WHG DNA relative to the Neolithic farmers of Central and Eastern Europe, and that they also late in the Neolithic spread eastward, to be the formation of the Funnelbeaker and Globular Amphora peoples. That hunter gatherer DNA we know was important in the UK, like the Newgrange god-kings, etc. I wonder if the same was true across the rest of the megalithic peoples.

[@seamusoblainn4603]

The UK didn't exist then, and Ireland is not in it anyway, so your comment is a tad anachronistic.

[@desdichado-007]

@@seamusoblainn4603 Are you for real? The UK isn't just a political entity, it's also a geographic expression that's much easier to type than "the British Isles."

[@seamusoblainn4603]

@@desdichado-007 yes, I am. The British Isles is a general term in the way 'The UK' is not. The term 'Irish Neolithic' was also used in the video. Would those people have considered themsleves Irish?

[@desdichado-007]

@@seamusoblainn4603 Yknow what? Nobody likes a pedant.

[@Davey-Boyd]

@@seamusoblainn4603 Oh grow up

[@kojibend9987]

Building ocean-faring vessels is far more complex than building vessels that can travel across calmer waters like the Mediterranean. It is therefore far more likely that the shipbuilding started in the Mediterranean where it was easier to survive, and then the most succesfull shipbuilders managed to sail the ocean and settled the Atlantic coast. This for me is a very strong argument for the theory that the megalithic culture was indeed an offshoot of Mediterranean Linearband and Impresso cultures, but with strong local development later on.

[@helenamcginty4920]

I grew up in NW England with a grandfather from W Ireland and have emigrated to Andalucía and have expanded my interest in archaeology, prehistory and history to read what I can about Spain. I have visited the dolmens at Antequera several times. In fact Antequera itself is interesting.

[@fernandobarros2826]

Tks for this amazing work... I try to talk about heritage on my EBM project Electrohammer. Greetings from Sao Paulo Brazil.

[@Oscar-ds2vb]

Considering modern day Sweden and 100% paternal replacement as a reocurring theme in history books ...I can't help but feel a bit 'doomy'.

[@btrueeth]

Who is replacing who in Sweden?

[@inactivated101]

@@btrueethmussies are replacing native swedes.

[@BryceGirdner]

DAMN THAT WAS A GREAT VIDEO! LORD OF THE EUROPEAN CHADS STIRKES GOLD AGAIN!

[@aaronchambers9888]

A video on the history of the Sami would be awesome

[@YanArMoal44]

Its pleasant to see that breton words are generaly used everywhere for stone table ( daolmen or dolmen ) & standing stone ( Menhir).

[@Survivethejive]

Gaelic cairn and latin tumulus are also used even in Brittany

[@janetmontgomery-r6j]

Really interesting..... I learnt a lot and your presentation was clear and easy to follow. Thanks

[@FireDaughter88]

I'm basque uruguayan and this video is wonderful, great work!!

[@jamieocallaghan9603]

Thank you for all your hard work. Best Wishes always.

[@amerieuro5655]

Me see booba me click - true neolithic man

[@pedrokarstguimaraes2817]

Your vídeos are very good, it is incredible to be put out! Thank you for seing Portugal better than local people and governmrnt do 👍

[@harrietharlow9929]

Just rewatched this. I just had my DNA run and carry Yamnaya, Bell Beaker and Iberian, amongst others. This has helped me understand my heritage as both a person of British and Celtic heritage. Thank you so much for uploading these very valuable videos.

[@Felix_Hug]

Thank you, I really enjoied the video. You should totaly do a video on the Basques some day 🤺

[@masterdrewanthony]

Wish I was in a better position to support the channel. Being a PhD student with one in the oven, best I can do is say thank you for all of your work. Excellent video, as always!

[@secretsquirrel726]

A lot of those grinding marks are edifications marks done wile doing magical spells. There are circles in Scotland on rocks that are also edifications The single black, scattered recesses, or holes cut in rocks are places where they thought spirits manifested, and were considered holes into the spirit world, or at least a different world. These are seen even on the megaliths at Gobeki Tepe.

[@skafazzation666]

Phenomenal work indeed

[@garyschroen6601]

This just gives me more questions to ask as to the building of pyramids in Mexico

[@corterapidoetramontina2904]

Nice one!

[@snaiwa]

Amazing, thanks for this video

[@SamuelHallEngland]

Great work! There are lots of dolmens and megaliths in Korea too. The paternal chromosomal vs autosomal DNA ratios are really interesting, as well as the Sun site burial of the beaker man and native woman

[@NunoMontezSilveira]

Great video and thanks for visiting my country and for all the information provided. Have been following your channel for quite some time. Had you given an head's up and I would be more than welcome to buy you a cup of coffee or beer. Cheers!

[@nathanborg9966]

Enjoyed this one, good video.

[@adamh5963]

The thumbnail ain’t messing about 👏

[@TheGreatest1974]

Well, if ancient women looked like the thumbnail, I’d happily live in those times.

[@TheMoose126]

Love the thumbnail..

[@amanb8698]

Loving these videos been watching this one, and some of your other videos while I listen to Heilung, Danheim, Munknörr & Sigurboði, Source Direct, Drum and Bass, Tengger Calvary, and Wagakki, while sipping on some Seikyo Sake. Now talk about cultural crossover lol.

[@boce9478]

Oh boy, new STJ documentary. 😃

[@FM_1819]

I wonder if the higher percentage of Pre-invasion DNA correlates with the (debated) longer the survival of pre-indoeuropean languages in Iberia. Such as Basque or Pre romance languages in southern Iberia. Since the PIE DNA survives from mothers who would in turn raise their children speaking their own language rather than that of the invaders.

[@helenamcginty4920]

My favourite stone monument, though, has to be Castlerigg stone circle near Keswick. It is set in what appears to be a huge circle of mountains with Blencathra to the north and the more distant Helvellyn range to the east etc.

[@ferjavato]

The Y-haplogroup replacement process in Iberia must have been quite slow and gradual. Playing with Eurogens G25 coordinates, I see that 6 (out 16) Iberian Bell Beakers are in fact males without Steppe ancestry and none of them is R1b. Those samples are I6542, I0460, I0826, I1970, I4229 (this one with tiny Steppe ancestry), and I6587, just in case anyone else wants to check.

[@QalOrt]

Amazing video! Also this might seem random, but are there any theories or evidence that maybe the megalithic stone circles and ovals were used for sports?

[@donnymiller7669]

Glad you are still around. I can't believe all the BS they are putting your channel through on FB. Keep on fighting

[@MrMaltasar]

Fantastic. I want to know more about these fascinating cultures. How wonderful it would be to have an eagle's eye view of a Bell Beaker warband assaulting a group of Megalith builders. Or simply watch them interact with each other. The Stone Age meets the Bronze Age. Love the video and keep up the good work, this truly fantastic in depth history.

[@frankmitchell3594]

Do megalith structures also exist in Morocco?

[@Survivethejive]

Only in the part near Spain.

[@EvanDW-nu3ug]

Another interesting and informative video! Thanks :)

[@fernandonp2534]

The spanish went around the sea sometimes and they discover something. Maybe you can include them as a good sailors.

[@Motshidi]

Good point!👌

[@abhinavchauhan7864]

I really like your content. Can you make more videos on vedic stuff ?

[@charlesmoore9239]

Love our European culture and people.

[@SupremeLordEnki]

I don't expect you to read this but theres a mountain right behind a town called Amarant in Portugal where you will find these stones, really massive, all around in the hills, theres hundreds of them easily spread around and they've been dated to even 9000years old. And i really mean massive in size several tens of tones at least for one of them its a massive block house size that was dug up somewhere and move up the hill, placed on the top of another stone and then sliced/cracked in quarter of the half and left there for thousands of years.

[@joaosalgado2312]

Survive the Jive, to start with, thank you for the video. Two notes on the genetical data you present: 1- the Beaker folk paternal lineages in Iberia are not 100% as you say, but around 80% (although as you may guess there are regional variations). 2 - You also present the number of 40% of Beaker autosomal dna in Iberia. I dont know any reliable study nor in Portugal or Spain that supports that percentage (it is probably much more, around 70%). Can you please tell me the study(ies) where you picked that information from? All the best,

[@a.e.9821]

What degrees do you need to get to study this subject (pre classical history) professionally?

[@guillermolledowolkowicz7085]

11:34 I went to a cairn in Scotland and I saw a woman doing a ritual there. When she finished I asked her what do I need to know about these places if I want the bennefits tjey were built to give. Among many other things, she said stone circles and cairns usually have a stone like that and that's where food offerings are placed. That's what a random woman told me, I don't know if this comes from a long line of heritage of from where.

[@rockber]

I'm on vacation and haven't seen it until now. Great great video! If you want I could translate it and make subtitles in Spanish. Greetings.

[@Survivethejive]

Yes please. Email me and I will send the time codes and English subs for you to translate

[@LewXXI]

increible! muy interesante!!, sabras algo de la Cultura de Tratessos?

[@doberman1ism]

My DNA 🧬 indicates that my ancestry migrated many times back to Iberia. Very interesting 🤔 because I know I am half Italian a quarter Scott-Irish and a quarter Cherokee Indian. My Italian grandmother said we also had German and Spanish ancestors.

[@craigbrelsford]

Great one, ‘Vive!

[@elidesportelli325]

0:07 I love the history of the ancient europe❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@senator1295]

...history is erased every moment ..thank you for preserving what is left

[@manuelsilva6926]

the South lusitanian exctint language, ot Tartessian language, is a old Celt language...never decifred...some historians say that is Phonician language...but itś Celt, by the new investigations...

[@algueiraovelho]

Thank you for recognizing the LUSITANIAN Language. People have forgotten.

[@manuelsilva6926]

@@algueiraovelho quando estamos a par da história de um povo, neste caso os Portugueses, sabemos de onde viemos e para onde vamos ou para onde não vamos também...Portugal, Portucale...o nome vem de um porto onde idolatravam uma deusa, de nome Cale, uma deusa Celta...esse é a origem do nome do país mais antigo da Europa...

[@elian958]

If we know that EEF were descendant from Anatolian farmers, and we know Anatolian farmers built Gobleki Tepe, why not assume that megalithic constructions customs were passed on from Anatolian farmers to EEFs and not an indenpendent practice developed in France?

[@Survivethejive]

EEF are from West Anatolian HG's while Gobekli Tepi was closer to Levantine HG region

[@elian958]

@@Survivethejive We are talking literally a few hundreds miles away.

[@EvilEye45s]

Very interesting. Nice work

[@dsala2614]

GREAT PRESENTATION...THANK YOU FOR YOUR TME

[@jestergodfield690]

Portugal has this blend of Roman city stuff and random Celtic pagan monuments out in the middle of nowhere!

[@Survivethejive]

Not Celtic

[@alicelund147]

The map at 21:06 is not Bell Beaker people, it must include other cultures as well (The Bell Beaker culture only had a small presence in Denmark in Scandinavia)?

[@Survivethejive]

correct. That is a map of steppe herder DNA spread

[@alicelund147]

@@Survivethejive Thanks StJ, is it possible to distinguish EHG DNA from EHG as a component in the WSH DNA? WSH where mainly EHG. Like in Scandinavia there where EEFs with some WHG DNA, and some original SHG with WHG and EHG DNA. Then came the Battle Axe culture with WSH DNA that consists of mostly EHG and some EEF! They all have the same DNA in different proportions; can they be told apart?

[@CostantinoVercetti]

Notification and algorinthm comment gang.

[@Eljefe003]

Curious, the stone circles have some resemblance to attempts to approximate the Gobekli Tepe monuments...

[@papazataklaattiranimam]

Are Portuguese/Spanish people Iberians ?

[@Survivethejive]

Yes

[@arat9144]

As well as Georgian, Lazian and some other caucasin people.

[@vitorjpereira2547]

@@arat9144 the Iberians are the Portuguese People and the Spanish people. The Georgians, Lazians and others are Caucasians. ;)

[@arat9144]

@@vitorjpereira2547 Yep. But do you know what was the ancient name of georgian territories? Iberian Tsardom.

[@arat9144]

@Pedro Antunes Yes, sure. Just interesting fact.

[@monrow1961]

There is something to making the entrance to a place of worship purposefully small has opposed to large. Being physically forced to bow in order to enter... interesting

[@Survivethejive]

The Vikings noted this in runes regarding the entrance to the maeshowe Neolithic chamber. The runes joke about haughty women being forced to bend low to enter

[@SpicyCheeseAltHistory]

Where is the picture of the women from ?

[@tonyfarrugia6394]

fascinating stuff could you do a video about Malta's ancient history we have some of the oldest ancient temples in the world here

[@joaocorreia524]

At 13 min, there was a show at the archeological museum in Lisbon where those pieces are and it was the curator's guess those lines were genealogical trees, genius if true!

[@Simon-fm8yc]

Why didn't I Get a notification for this posting?

[@bladehea]

Subscribed😁✌️

[@vijaysura2874]

Actually the first post flood farming was done in Sri Lanka 10,600 years ago. The first crop was foxtail millett! Apart from that super stuff.

[@Eblis840]

If the thumbnail is indicative of the megalithic builders then I know what time I'm going to first in my time machine.

[@tcjjack]

Question for STJ. The Bell Beakers were R1b farmers who invaded the WHG territory you said. This would be the people who became the Celts? Also what haplogroup were the WHG? Had the I1/I2 split occurred prior to the intrusion of the R1b? Thanks.

[@Survivethejive]

No. WHG, then EEF then BBC. Two invading peoples

[@wildchild3862]

im norwegian, its often overlooked that the norwegian coast is littered by megalithic rock art streching deep into the arctic and even into russia. There are thousands and thousands of these rock art sites and new ones being discovered all the time. Also numerous stone circle mazes as is depicted in ireland. Now in itself this isnt so incredible as its a region close to the british isles. But i find it hard to wrap my head around the great number of these remains deep in the arctic such as the rock art site in Alta at latitude 70 degrees north. Its a massive rock art field, one of the greatest in europe. Now this speaks to a culture that stretches from spain to the north pole and even into the russian arctic. That is one massive empire. BUT whats most amazing is that the Norwegian coast is one of the most dangerous and vicious in the whole world. There is no wonder that Norwegians was the first in modern time to cross the atlantic, considering that navigating the norwegian coast is just as dangerous as crossing the atlantic. The distance from northern to southern Norway is equal that of scandinavia to Rome. The climatic distance is even greater. Imagine arctic scandinavia 5000 + years ago, the inland ice was still lingering. There is 2 months of complete darkness and temperatures down to minus 40 degrees with polar low pressure systems constantly battering the coast. Its amazing to me how these people didnt just travel into these most inhospitable places, they built large communities with thousands of inhabitants and they exported large amounts of goods far far south. It stands to reason that an empire of this magnitude who controls such wild faraway lands must have had a much larger trade reach still. Im not saying they did cross the atlantiv, but speaking as someone with many genetations of norwegian seafarers behind me, i can say with some degree of authotity that they must have had the capability to do so.

[@Survivethejive]

Iron age nordic people made stone tombs and stone circles too but these are not from the same culture as Neolithic megaliths

[@The_Paradox__]

North Western Spain is where my family is from (Galicia and Asturias) they play bagpipes and the hills are as green as Ireland.

[@BanjoSick]

There is a nice dolmen outside of the village my in laws come from in northern rural Portugal.