Nerf Phoenix VS Adventure Force Spectrum AKA Stryfe Clone VS Stryfe Clone

[@dirrt5011]

Imagine having a rival company make a better version of your own blaster with a low price. Step up your game nerf!

[@Kodaiva]

what do you mean A blaster? Adventure force is putting nerf to shame with all of their releases

[@sircophagusthethird6936]

Seriously, the villainator and spectrum have been a slap in the face towards nerf. Not to mention dart zone and the groundbreaking nexus

[@brandoncubell7362]

Sir Cophagus The Third yeah nexus too strong for me but I’m getting the former two and I’m hyped

[@dirrt5011]

Sir Cophagus The Third What about the DZ Liberator? It holds 10 rival rounds and has amazing distance and its only 15-20 bucks depending on where you buy it.

[@ProfessorPhysics2]

@@Kodaiva Ignoring the fact that Nerf released the Motostryke and the Saturn. And today, the Halo MA40 just came out from Amazon. Nerf ain't dying.

[@hypershadic590]

I know who wins already but I'm watching just to see how hard it wins.

[@jamesmapper3456]

Matthew Chaves me too!

[@PeterXChhanX]

And it won by a large margin

[@Fatduck-nm3jj]

Spectrum right

[@shtcollective8107]

@@Fatduck-nm3jj correct

[@xLuCasanovax]

I don't even care about the modding, painting is what I care about, and can't properly if I can't take it apart.

[@drflux]

Very good point!

[@brandoncubell7362]

Chainsaw?

[@Matt-md5yt]

that is something alot of fans of the hobby should care about also. painting it is just as important as modding it

[@DaneH64]

for me its both, and the stryfe was my playground for this! Nerf's gotta keep their $h!t together!

[@another3997]

​@@Matt-md5yt Like many people, you're only looking at it from a very narrow point of view. But the vast majority of Nerf style products are young kids, and most of the adults using them are just parents playing with their kids. Nerf blasters are meant to be toys. Most don't mod their blasters other than sticking on other attachments to look cool, and if they paint or decorate them, they tend to be simple, rough alterations. They simply don't need to open up the product.

[@kaio0777]

Killing me with Nostalgia and this all megaman x ost

[@DevilZcall]

Very conclusive video! A few suggestions for the format though: - if the blaster takes standard mags, it should get full points for capacity (with points being deducted from package contents if only a small magazine is included) - range, accuracy and fps tests should be conducted with identical darts (again with points being deducted from package contents if the included darts are sub par)

[@PeterXChhanX]

They explained in the video that they were as if it solely on what the package gives you for those that have no other resources to get new ammo and magazines. I’d say it’s pretty fair to compare packages in a controlled manner in isolation to see the value. Once you start mixing and matching you can alter it in many different ways which wasn’t their goal

[@Boomtendo4tw]

having a 3d printer really changes the game when it comes to accessories. you can just make all your own and if you take a little time learning the programs, you can design your own. everyone in the hobby should have a printer really

[@Fusako8]

Is the cage geometry on the Spectrum the same as the Commandfire and/or Destructor?

[@drflux]

I dont have a Commandfire but I do have a destructor. Ive never popped it open. If anyone knows id relly like to know as well.

[@Cringemoment4045]

Let's hope it's similar to a stryfe

[@Boomtendo4tw]

yes and my cages on thingiverse work for the spectrum too

[@Fusako8]

@@Boomtendo4tw I figured they'd be smart and keep the same cage geometry. IMPO this takes a bit of the wind out of the sails of people swearing the stryfe will kill this. (There's room for two simple cheap semi-auto flywheelers. I don't get the false binary here.)

[@Boomtendo4tw]

Anon Ymous We can literally make anything with 3d printing. Ppl just have to be willing to put in a minimal amount of effort in designing parts for other brands than nerf.

[@Loneadmin]

Im just wondering how the spectrum got a lower score in range when it shoots harder, with more accurate darts. 90-100fps vs 70fps.

[@yeetbeam2273]

Yeah...

[@jonathonbird861]

Higher FPS doesn’t always equate to longer range. Ever wonder that?

[@jamesp.6753]

Yeah... The kinematic equations for distance that include initial velocity do not depend on mass at all. Those waffles should have gone farther.

[@drflux]

Those things are not a flat translation to higher range. You have a lot of variables IE: cage crush, system power (can be too high or too low) dart weight, barrel drag, and so on. Also in this hobby I have seen many times accuracy = less range. A scar barrel is a good example. When you throw a scar on say a caliburn you get increased accuracy but decreased FPS and in some cased decreased range.

[@Loneadmin]

@@jonathonbird861 if you aren't gonna explain it i don't need your sass.

[@aaronbane969]

The Adventureforce Villinator, has a detachable stock.

[@sniper957pro7]

Love these vs videos A vs video done right

[@loganwiggins9362]

I know who's going to win before I even watch

[@marcmcgill8756]

I love the music dr flux

[@Boomtendo4tw]

my commandfire cages on thingiverse also work for the spectrum

[@Abraham-l8i]

Finally, someone acknowledging the 40K resemblance! Thank you!

[@hereigoagain04]

Thanks for the video and for owning up where you may have skewed the comparison/contrast results by leaving your blaster in the sun by using old Adventure Force darts. It’s also good for us to know. In addition, it would have been nice to see you do an additional portion by switching the darts used in the range test, too, using Elite darts in the Spectrum and the AV darts in the Phoenix. That would have given a truer picture of each blaster’s range performance as well as that of each type of darts. Just a minor bit of feedback. Regardless, thanks for the video.

[@marcmcgill8756]

great video as always sir

[@drflux]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@dgresham2729]

For the accuracy test, you should eliminate the marksman as a variable by having both of you test both blasters and average the results.

[@Kodaiva]

the villainator has a compatible stock with the spectrum

[@brandoncubell7362]

The spectrum also has a compatible stock with the villainator it works both ways. Ugh. People these days smh. Jk honestly the villainator stock is better

[@chamsherp9762]

the stock attachment point on the spectrum also is compatable with the villianator stock

[@PeterXChhanX]

Didn’t think that adventure force would have started making their own proprietary attachments but it is what it is. Would have been nice if they made it compatible with hasbro but I can’t fault them

[@rob010976]

I would also suggest pulling the 30ft line away from the fence because it looked like some cups may have been stuck via ricochet.

[@derrekkestrel9304]

When Nerf was on sale at Target a while back, I picked up 3 Phoenix. 2 were $20 1 was free because of the sale. But I ended up pulling them apart. The batteries, flywheels, motor switch, barrel... basically everything you really need to make it shoot a dart out minus the trigger is all contained in that little package and you can extract the entire thing at once. This makes for some fun projects. You basically can use a Nerf Elite 2.0 Phoenix as a budget afterburner or something else. Another friend ended up buying 8 of them, stacking them, adding a 10' tube onto each one and just packing them with darts. The extracted cages were then fitted in a water cooler barrel and the flywheel buttons were attached to the top handle while the bottom handle was used for support. Multi Mini Missile Mayhem. I think that's what he called it. Only issue was no springs on the back of the tubes nor any dart followers so you wouldn't be able to angle the shots upwards at all and even straight shots were difficult.

[@another3997]

Clearly, like most of the others commenting, you aren't the typical "nerf" user. You see these as something to be modded, upgraded and "improved", whereas the vast majority of nerf users don't. Sure, kids might put some stickers on them, quickly daub paint on them or mix and match stocks, scopes and barrel attachments, but otherwise they're unaltered. A relatively small set of hardcore users want "nerf" blasters to be something they were never intended to be.

[@zaka0781]

Cool video!

[@drflux]

Thanks!

[@admiralcasperr]

Phoenix has way better detailing then Spectrum, that's why it seems prettier.

[@s14tat]

Curious what would happen if you put elite darts in the spectrum. I am actually shocked that elites can even go that far. I am used to seeing 120+ fps blasters hitting 90-100 feet with an arch with adventure force darts

[@Matt-md5yt]

glad you did this one my friend.

[@jonathonbird861]

That Harley Quinn though!! I love the content this channel gives. Great honest review!!

[@marcmcgill8756]

you see if you can fit an auto kit in the spectrum

[@Boomtendo4tw]

the problem with the other brands than nerf and boomco is that it’s like they scatter random patterns on their blasters without much idea of flow.

[@kwaziness]

XShot and Dart Zone's design teams have greatly improved in terms of shell design, Buzzbee on the other hand...

[@marcmcgill8756]

rayven vs spectrum?????

[@scottbionicnerf8727]

I gonna say, and it's not to take up for Hasbro, but any we compare blasters that have different power reserves, as in 4 batteries, verses 6 batteries, we should expect the blaster with a higher available voltage to come out on top. I'm actually surprised it wasn't a worse spanking. I wonder now,(I know it's probably not worth your time at this point.) how well the Phoenix could compare using an additional 2 batteries and using the same style darts in both blasters.? For science.

[@nicholasmazzarella2720]

Dr.F Awesome comparison video. These are fun to watch. Thanks for making fantastic content. So awesome to see two blasters pitted against each other. Keep up the great work.

[@drflux]

My pleasure!

[@TrueNomadSkies]

I just realized that both of em come with a neat unique scope.

[@whitethundermilitia9249]

The Nerf elite 2.0 Phoenix is my favorite blaster I got 2 of them

[@elcoshayuyodrsimi3000]

I think that everyone knew who was going to win

[@counthellstrom2673]

Availability (50) Spectrum 25 (only Walmart so only USA) Phoenix 45 (pretty much worldwide). In the UK I have a pre order on the Phoenix and I can't buy a Spectrum, or AF Waffles for that matter. Would I buy one if I could? Of course I would. I just wish I could. (Please note the Spectrum still wins, lol)

[@SamSam-cc8dj]

Dr Flux wearing a Nerf shirt and saying Dart Zone is better. Yoda: There was a disturbance in the Force that day.

[@BigMZ3]

The Adventure force Villainator has the same stock attatchment point so you can swap stocks, gonna keep the adjustable stock on mine though!

[@marcmcgill8756]

hey Dr flux can you do a review on the adventure force double trouble

[@drflux]

i dont have one but ill keep my eye out for one.

[@marcmcgill8756]

@@drflux cool

[@skeemeastwood9075]

Can anyone explain why 6 dart magazines are still made. I have a bag of like 100 collecting dust.

[@not_doomb]

The only design flaw in the spectrum is the barrel it has a very small lip at the tip that the darts hit on the way out if you remove it and try it again performance is a lot more consistent.

[@jaylu2414]

Nice to see that Nerf wins in the categories that are not relevant to use and performance. Especially in the packaging category, you know the thing you throw out when you open it.

[@bz4701]

I'll root for the underdog, the Phoenix looks kinda good with the attachments, and all the tactics ; )

[@Kodaiva]

sadly its less of an underdog and more of a failure

[@brandoncubell7362]

Vast yeah I’d only get it if I had a lot to spend and it was there. Not bad but yeah

[@gabrielbissoli1206]

You can look good and be tagged with no issues bro, holy tactics

[@jeffersonderrickson5371]

here it is oct and I cant get a spectrum...

[@WolfMan-nf4lv]

Just discovered this channel a bit ago, and subbed just cause of the mega man x music alone lmao. X2 has some fire tracks also, with morph moth being one of my favorites.

[@drflux]

Thank you and welcome!

[@tylerdavis6389]

The only thing I don't like about the Spectrum is that giant, orange muzzle. It really kills the aesthetics for me.

[@drflux]

Agreed

[@kumakuma3335]

phoenix got better range than spectrum???

[@drflux]

ikr!

[@himinplazy2491]

the reason this has so little veiws is because we all know that the spectrum is better in every way

[@O4kl4nd]

On the distance you should shoot the same darts out of each of the blasters...one round with both using elite darts and one round both using waffle head darts. It's always been known elite darts fly further so it's not a blaster issue...it's the fact your using two different projectiles...you'll get a better comparison

[@VideoCentral-bh9tf]

Oof, this is looking like an 80:20 matchup in adventure force's favor.

[@kingstonwvnerfer211]

Where is the turbine review?

[@kwaziness]

im flabbergasted the elite 2.0 brick won the aesthetics round against the spectrum

[@ProfessorPhysics2]

The Spectrum is ugly. While I love how powerful it is out of the box, it is still ugly compared to the Phoenix. If the Phoenix wasn't clipped and solvent welded, it would have been a very popular symmetrical Stryfe clone.

[@heatherroberts3735]

I haven’t even watched it and I know who probably is gonna win 😂

[@nostalgiatrip1]

I would still say get a Stryfe if you really not willing to range outside of Nerf, the performance is basically the same. But the ero is what kills the Phoenix, the mag release being where and how it is and the front weight due to placement of batteries. I mean the "best" thing about it is the additional rails. If anything is an "improvement" on that alpha strike Stryfe -est blaster. But that's not saying much, seriously just either pay the premium for a Stryfe if you have to, otherwise get the Spectrum.

[@arasin.staubly]

It feels like you included the stock for aesthetics on the Phoenix - is this correct? If yes, FAIL. If no, * shrug * .

[@drflux]

no idea

[@Dacubemastr]

pls get that mod vid for the phenoix!

[@JayRetired]

The spectrum really goes up to 100 feet w the waffle darts, so… and not in an angle so…

[@rob010976]

We appreciate the post guys! The Phoenix sucks....do yourself a favor if your new to foam blasting and find yourself any other Stryfe reskin and you will most certainly be better off. My son and I love the platform but this one is a bust. On the other hand we CAN’T wait to get our hands on the DZ Spectrum.

[@skye1491]

Thanks for the awesome vid and i agree the spectrum is way better it will hit 110 according to walcom and thats amazing there are. A few mods out for it too and more on the way

[@anastasiatanaseraphina810]

Placing my money on the Spectrum!

[@isodeivys611]

Yeah aiming the Phoenix up at an angle and giving it 6ft ground clearance it gets 90 plus ft I have one and shoot like 28 feet

[@dr.riccardo3575]

If you enjoy being able to fix your product then the answer is obvious

[@FoamFlinger0523]

Love megaman bgm

[@MrVash104]

Yeah give him the shitamushoom blaster piff !!!

[@Valandar2]

You must have gotten a bum Spectrum. Every other review I've seen have had the Spectrum hitting 85 - 95 feet unmodified at angled shots.

[@johnkirk8214]

Goodbye nerf hello adventure force/dart zone

[@kriss3401]

You got that wrong The spectrum isn't a clone It's an upgrade

[@marcmcgill8756]

agreed

[@ProfessorPhysics2]

Still looks ugly though. Dart Zone really needs to paint and style their Walmart blasters better. The Nexus and Dart Zone Pros are beautiful, but they don't spend enough effort on their lower end products.

[@kriss3401]

@@ProfessorPhysics2 true that I mean, it's subjective but most blasters don't look good yeah, tho the form factor is good so you can just repaint your blaster

[@l.s.8590]

Stryfe Clone Wars

[@safwanahmed7296]

Thumbnail: “elite 2.0 phoenix versus adventure force spectrum” People who have watched more than one review of both of the blasters: “laughs uncontrollably”

[@whitethundermilitia9249]

Dose anyone else think the Phoenix looks like a fish??

[@extremepsykosis]

Drac's opinions are decent, Walcom could look at a piece of dog crap and pretend it's the most amazing turd he's ever seen. Doesn't make it convincing, just makes him look phony as hell.

[@ARockyRock]

I think the stryfe clone is better.

[@MarcG7424]

To bad Nerf isn't going to pay any attention to this video and probably won't until they have completely lost market share. The death nail will come as aftermarket mod parts become more available. Unfortunately Nerf continues to underestimate older blaster enthusiast they don't realize my son got into blasters because he liked mine. I wouldn't pay for anything Nerf is producing now

[@scottbionicnerf8727]

For the sake of being argumentative, clip clip clip clip clip clip clip clip....shut up damnit! I know it's a magazine! I just wanted to argue with everyone who to be perfect 🤠.

[@Hobo-official]

ha the phoenix hitting 90fps is so bad

[@1337wafflezz]

Ok I think the range score was bullshit. How does a blaster that shoots 20-30fps harder get a worse range claim? I know waffle darts aren't the BEST for pure range but cmon man. I'm having trouble believing that. Still, overall a good video but I definitely think you gave nerf a LITTLE bit too much credit. They made a Stryfe that shoots maybe...5fps harder? than the last version. With worse ergonomics. With the same (mostly) inferior ammo type. With practically no way to mod or repair. With less attachments and less compatibility(the Adventure Force can take a legit M4A1 stock for crap's sake). Y'all were pretty lenient with this clear cash grab.

[@blankettoys8533]

1337wafflezz I got a few things to say 1. The spectrum CAN’ TAKE M4A1 stocks 2. Even though a blaster shoots harder doesn’t mean it can shoot farther 3. There are multiple factors that can make a blaster shoot further like wind,darts,cage, motors,flywheels, cage crush. etc. 4. Everything else is your opinions.

[@1337wafflezz]

​@@blankettoys8533 Ok, first off. I thought most of the Adventure Force blasters shared the same stock attachment point as the Nexus Pro, which I read can take normal Ar-15 stocks like a real gun. I suppose I was mistaken, I just thought the plastic was molded in a way to do so. Secondly, yes...well..depending. If accuracy is bubkis then sure. But...really? it has to do mostly with the darts. I'm just saying that I'm not doubting the validity of their tests but they should have thrown in the same kind of darts in both blasters. That's a fair comparison. Waffleheads will dive and are incredibly stable. Elites could have caught the wind and traveled FOREVER. Heck if the wind is strong enough, you could have decent ranges by probably just sticking your arm up in the air with one and letting go! I'm saying that a 30fps increase blaster like the Spectrum MOST LIKELY has much more range using the same type of ammo. I like this video and think everything else was a fair score. But ya, there's no comparison. The phoenix looks nice as hell(opinion, lol). It aint nothing compared to a similar flywheel with at least 20fps readings higher.

[@narenthebeesechurgerman422]

@@1337wafflezz pro blasters have picatini rails and m4 buffer tubes cuz they’re tactical. Their normal blasters don’t because they’re more toy like

[@edgarflores5047]

Nerf literally just ran out of ideas

[@Levi-d6j1h]

I think Nerf's cooked...

[@koolBOY8323]

okay they live up to their ranges. but who nerfs with their arm fully stretched out at a 45 degree angle and tries to lob it in? cmon. talk about ergos with the stock and grip, then neither are used while range testing?

[@brandoncubell7362]

I love the turbine and the elite 2.0 design, but I want function not Nerf’s new Rolex I mean I’m not that rich

[@hydromano6652]

This is so unfair lol.

[@stardust-xk6yp]

wow this is the most biust thing I've ever seen just cuzz its nerf wow stop y delete this chanell

[@drflux]

True! Y delete this channel

[@narenthebeesechurgerman422]

I died reading this