NERFS WALKED BACK - 4.1 Patch - Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 Update

[@baldsquidgaming]

Which of these changes are you stoked about? What was missing? Personally I'm looking forward to the new weapon datamine, because I'm a nerd and like math. rip.

[@pigzard01]

Bolter buffs. I do still feel they could use another 10% more damage but still stoked to try them out.

[@baldsquidgaming]

I'm not complaining about it but am surprised by the 5% buff to the heavy bolter. The thing already shreds.

[@calebheisserer5391]

Very bold of you to assume I can read

[@baldsquidgaming]

Assume the best 😉

[@gabzsy4924]

😂

[@davidreese5730]

As a shitty (the job) gas station worker, I can ASSURE you many, MANY people can not read.

[@Han_Soloed]

Really like how you don’t waste time. A lot of other KZbinrs will just read the whole patch note 10+mins with no meaningful commentary behind it. You on the other hand are straight to the point and offer commentary when needed. Thank you. Subscribed.

[@baldsquidgaming]

Thanks! I hate ads and when my time is wasted just as much as y'all do, so I try to stick to the meat of things unless its a chill "let's chat about x" kind of thing.

[@pigzard01]

After some playing last night. I definitely feel the buffs for auto/heavy bolt rifles but I can't say they were that exceptional. I think they need to do another round of damage buffs to them, they still take some time to down majoris but at least they're more effective at mob clear. Can't say I can feel the damage from sniper or carbine initially so more playing with those is needed.

[@RangerLogan1]

Bolt weapons need more than that to be relevant in higher difficulties to be on par with Melta or Plasma. The game is fun again even on Ruthless with these new AI changes.

[@Thesavagesouls]

I wasn't aware they planned to add modifiers to lethal. If it's done well it will be pretty cool.

[@baldsquidgaming]

"If it's done well" is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence, but yes I agree 🙂

[@berserker_2886]

What do they mean by modifiers? Like being able to choose different things like spawn rates or whatever, or?

[@pigzard01]

Maybe they could copy SC2 and introduce a Lethal+ where you get random modifiers so the sweatlords can be satisfied.

[@Thesavagesouls]

@@pigzard01 They already are satisfied with lethal. It's not because you read one post on reddit saying otherwise that the majority of players wanting a challenge aren't satisfied with what they have now.

[@kcaptainawesome4800]

hope auto bolt rifle is actually decent now. I dont want to have to dump an entire magazine to the head on a ranged nid warrior

[@baldsquidgaming]

auto base damage at grey tier without perks is 1.4/bullet, so this should bring it to just shy of 1.7. At relic it was at 2.24 before, and the change takes it to 2.68. We'll see how this shifts things around :)

[@kcaptainawesome4800]

@@baldsquidgaming thank you for the breakdown sir I do appreciate it. Helps having insight

[@ringard5172]

@@kcaptainawesome4800 It's will be like -2 or -3 bolts per ranged nid warrior.

[@TheBanditoLad]

@@ringard5172I.e. still shit

[@S1030dan]

Personally i dont think the 10% to 20% buffs for bolters will do much (except the Sniper Bolter, Stalker and maybe Marksman). Their Raw damage is so low that those buffs amount up to like 1 or 2 extra damage. I hope im wrong, and that these buffs actually make bolters fun to use, but im doubtful.

[@baldsquidgaming]

Yeah. I'm skeptical but optimistic that this might be the beginning of a trend of slower, more incremental rebalancing vs what we saw last week and gave everyone whiplash.

[@exeverrr]

I was hoping for a different type of buff. 10-15% just doesnt do much when everything is a bullet sponge. Needs some more penetration and maybe a slight knockback, for ranged units some supression maybe.

[@arkamwest]

any of this apply to the campaing too??

[@S1030dan]

No Weapon Buffs are Operations only.

[@philipdrainville3592]

Not sure how much this is gonna change stuff, for me game was unplayable on patch 4.0 no fun at all so even with bolter weapons buff i sont see how it could be fun again

[@baldsquidgaming]

I feel that skepticism too. If the AI director and spawn rate changes actually make meaningful changes, and how they do the math on armor / damage tweaks goes well, I could see it being far more reasonable. We'll have to wait and see how it plays out in the wild though.

[@TheBanditoLad]

Bolters are still going to be shit. At this point the players might as well just tell the devs exactly what to code, they do not play their own game it is so obvious.