NES Longplay [394] Milon's Secret Castle

[@lauragriffin6512]

This game was how I used to relax after my kids went to bed 25 years ago. I have great memories of it. Thanks for posting. Can't believe you did it in under an hour without one death.

[@GoodOldDaysGaming]

I actually like this game in small doses, like once every year or two. I used to watch my dad play it as a kid, so there's a sentimental attachment to it. Somehow, my dad knew everything about it, and I used to cheer him on. Then way later I revisited it and beat it. It's a good feeling. I want to LP it soon.

[@chanceForNotBeingRapper]

but game mechanics is still hideous for an early game, I mean, who tf thinks random lightning outside of the castle when you jump into a new level entrance is a good thing for players? this small design is even big threat for players

[@zukakog]

I don't remember exactly how old I was when I beat this, but I was between 9 and 13. My friends and I spent many weekends, and almost an entire summer figuring it out. I didn't know about the continue code until I read the comments for this video. I'm glad I didn't! Beating it was one of my greatest gaming achievements!

[@jackblack1218]

Finally I found this fame. This one game is the only game I were not able to beat in my youth. Considering I didn't know English at 5 years old. So everything were error and trial. Took way long...Made me mad a bit... However, in this madness I were able to find a salvation... If you tilt NES cartridge just a bit, thus 2/3 inserted, slanted, the separation of rocks will glitch and open up between floors. You can just jump to upper levels. I got to top level with just boots, but never were able to get to green room to finalize the mission. I got my closure some 25 years later. Thanks. :)

[@ChrisGoduskymakemefamous]

Avgn : asssss

[@meyes1098]

This game was amazing! You know that awesome feeling when you find something secret in a game? Well this game is that feeling EVERY SECOND OF IT xD

[@nerdcouncil]

AVGN brought me here, and wow you killed it! nice

[@VahanNisanian]

There's a secret message you can get if you beat this game twice in a row: "This is the end of Episode 1. See you again!"

[@Musicradio77Network]

This was considered an Easter Egg after you defeat the final boss in the 2nd wave, a special ending appeared out of nowhere. Too bad, “Milon’s Secret Castle” never got a sequel which wasn’t about to happened.

[@icynerd3378]

@@Musicradio77Network It actually did get a sequel called Doremi Fantasy, but only in Japan.

[@Mike14264]

Seriously, when I least expect it, in a random comment section, there's a Conrad bot and some other bot talking about getting their gf's Instagram password and the other one checking it's working. It's about the fourth time this year!

[@VahanNisanian]

@@Mike14264 I'm glad I'm not the only one who see this. Annoying!

[@Mike14264]

@@VahanNisanian it is, right?! Also, out of curiosity, what do you think of this game?

[@sgreen4865]

this is another one of the long list of games that I had that I could never get to the end. at least now I can go to my grave having seen someone else play these games. I put in so many hours and hours on those games but could never get too far. I did manage to beat many games but some games, like this one I could just never get through. KZbin is great for nostalgia

[@RydainDarkstar]

Excellent playthrough! I loved the hell out of this 8-bit black sheep as a kid. I did have that Nintendo Power hint for getting past the first floor, but I figured out most everything else through 4 months of stubbornness. You are far better at it than I ever was - I had to abuse the unlimited continues and farm health before the tougher bosses. Thanks for the nostalgia!

[@GIUSAF]

WOW! that was awesome man, thank you for this. I remember how hard this game was when I was a kid. It's one of my favorites! I've never seen the ending until now!!!!!!!!!!

[@OptimusGamer1981]

I remember feeling like a freakin' genius when I found the first invisible door in this game after I don't know how long of my entire family trying to beat the first level, this has always been one of my favorites since then, can't believe it's under an hour, it took me a lot longer than that to beat.

[@NoName-bk9jk]

Been trying to remenber this game for months and finally found it, thank you! Been over 25 years but still remember playing it.

[@necrom99]

Beat this game as a kid. No magazine. No internet. It just seems that no one has the patience for games like this anymore. Kind of sad. It's a great game.

[@tartuffethesprywonderdog5883]

It's not great, it's average at best.

[@keithii84]

I agree this game has a lot of nostalgic value for me as well quite frankly I think it's pretty fun once you know how to play it I remember as a kid when I figured it out I couldn't put it down but I've never played the Nintendo version I just had the Gameboy version which is very similar except it does have a better ending

[@Mike14264]

Honestly, it's less a matter of patience, and more of a matter of free time. With how little free time I get these days, I need to make some careful picks with what game I can afford to spend some time with. Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap was a great pick, for instance! This one? Probably not.

[@a2pha]

That's the big ending ?? Wholly Smokes ! Cube, you got patience !! I could barely beat the 1st level on this nightmare. Nicely done !

[@AgdaFingers]

This game isn't even fun to watch...

[@TBONE_2004]

Milon's Secret Castle? *_MORE LIKE MILON'S SHITTY ASSHOLE!!_* It looks like it could've been a good game, but too bad they were just jerkin' off!!

[@nyastclair8174]

One of my favorite games as a kid. I played this just as much as any Mario game. I almost beat this game while very young and no guide. Getting as far as I did is still an accomplishment for being like 5-6 years old.

[@Mike14264]

To be fair, finding the cryptic stuff does indeed only require the brain power of a 5 year old 😅

[@Yrrej8611]

TBH with everyone, what did you expect from a game called "Milon's SECRET Castle?"

[@johnnyslokes89]

Well you know an actual game that doesnt suck and that actually takes place in a castle to be frank

[@pakasack]

THIS game relaxed you? You must have nerves of steel! ;)

[@thejackal007]

I don't care what the Nerd said. I love this game.

[@seanleong7274]

So many years I've tried to recall the game. Finally yes. I am here. Omg. 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@RetroRogue.]

Everyone makes his opinion to be gods lol.

[@MatthiaGryffine]

I always wondered if there are games he has reviewed that he secretly enjoys

[@Akko1]

To be honest I was expecting a good explanation to all this, I know the game is old, but it's still a disappointing ending...

[@gimtek]

What if we made a game, and 80% of it was secret passages, hidden doors, and invisible stuff requiring players to shoot randomly everywhere for hours

[@Balisades]

Ah yes... the Metroid series... 🥰

[@sabadiero]

​@@BalisadesMetroid hides optional upgrades for you, not where you should go

[@Mike14264]

​​​​​@@Balisades if only Milton's wasn't as cryptic as even the original Metroid... but I wouldn't be surprised if it was at the same level of enjoyment as Milon's Secret Castle for some people. With enough patience, Metroid 1 would've been perfectly fine as a game by modern standards if it wasn't for the fact it's so stingy with health and ammo. Games at the time had ways to recover health instantaneously to compensate for all the health upgrades you get, why not Metroid? It's really the main thing that prevents me from replaying it more often. For a non-linear game, it's too restrictive with how you should approach it. Milon here on the other hand takes the design approach of optional secrets in games that you can't find without trial and error and even more patience, and makes them mandatory. Not occasionally, like how Metroid and Zelda do, but consistently through the whole thing. Cus that's fun, ain't it? Spending time you could be using doing anything else, playing any other admittedly more exciting game, sweeping the level screen until you find the one block that does a thing. It's not even that annoying or frustrating, that would actually be a more interesting experience. It's just tedious and boring. And I'd rather have fun or feel anything else, than be bored.

[@LchanOtakudom]

Oh geez... You can't just hit a block that disappears head on, you have to hit it so sickeningly specific or nothing happens..! Such an anal retentive game! I'm with the Nerd on this, this game is cryptic and demented. Thanks for playing it though, I'm impressed you had the patience to do so, honest! This game should be renamed Daryl's Demented Dungeon, or Shoot Your Bubbles Right or You get Nothing Land.

[@Krebons1200]

It's no more cryptic than metroid or zelda were on the NES. At least here your primary attack is all you need to reveal secrets instead of secondary weapons with limited ammunition.

[@sightseeing7993]

@@Krebons1200 Since when did Zelda have cryptic shit to this degree? Zelda at least had hints. Walk into a waterfall helps a whole lot more than 'find a saw'

[@otakuatarigamer]

@@Krebons1200 I agree, and i think Metroid is just as cryptic as this, but that gets off free just because it’s a Nintendo title

[@michaelrate7693]

This game would have been great if there were clues in-game and not 'one of these 800-ish blocks is hiding a door, shoot it to progress'. Cryptic clues makes you think, no clues at all IS button mashing (or lucky guesses). This game is trial/error until you've memorized it. It doesn't make you think. Star Ocean, Aladdin, Chrono Cross, Castlevania Simons Quest & Earthbound (among others) made you think. This game takes time, memory and less brain power than counting your cash when you bought it.

[@Mike14264]

Yeah, it's one a those design philosophies that works well with optional goodies and secrets... ...not so much if it's absolutely mandatory. It's a time waster to try and give more value to the game by trial and error. It's cheap.

[@Eabatu]

Why did the guy playing the game wait until the second floor before getting the bee, powering up the bee shield, and grabbing an umbrella for rapid fire? All of that helps a ton in this game. I get that stuff in the first room, and hang onto that bee shield for as long as possible.

[@GeraldWatercrest]

Thanks for uploading. Loved this game as a kid.

[@mskiara18]

I express my thanks to MrPopsicle43 for playing the game. I enjoy Milon's Secret Castle and was joyous when I reached the second row of the castle myself before stopping. My only complaint was the creatures reappeared too quickly and I did not know how to reach the room with the money before this video. I have my late brother's copy, so if I have the time I may play again to see if I can reach the final area of the game. That will be good if this game will be recreated, as Milon's Secret Castle is fun and have potential.

[@rhomis]

This particular Nintendo game was released November 13, 1986 - Remember those day?

[@zach7551]

I don't think anyone in this comment section does, since that was the date the original Japanese version was released

[@rhomis]

@@zach7551 - when Japan gets internet access, then my previous comment will apply.

[@scotty7756]

Man i remember playing this holy crap was hard as heck LOL!! Great game just brought back so many memories thanks for share

[@Aristoper]

This game was great very metroidvania and even kind of like a single player side scroll gauntlet like in nature though a lot less levels. This game would be awesome with something like Mario Level Maker.

[@themadhack3r431]

This was my fav game growing up and super Mario bros. I was still in elementary school. 😀

[@RayTheSnivy]

"I FUCKING HATE THIS GAME." ~ AVGN

[@J.B.1982]

Amazing work. I never had the patients for this. Not sure I ever made it anywhere. All randomness! Crazy game

[@Bloodreign1]

Yeah I have it on the Wii VC (Do-Re-Mi), great game with a gradual difficulty curve. Later levels are pretty challenging, which is a good thing. The original game pretty much came from a time before there were FAQ's, but Hudson did fix the wrinkles somewhat in the Gameboy version.

[@billykid84]

I found this game among the more irritating NES games to play. Very difficult to figure out all the secrets in order to progress. Plus, you have that "Bubble-land" music to further make you feel like murdering someone...

[@Musicradio77Network]

I still have this game. It was made by the same company that made the TurboGrafx 16, Hudson Soft, now known as Konami. I guess Konami now has the rights to this game along with many of the great NES titles from Konami including the “Contra” series, the “Castlevania” series, and the “Gradius” series,

[@VirtualVernon]

You didn't get the high jump boots? Its on the shop is on the 3rd floor, its the top door just right of the left gray tower. It takes you too the money room in the first level, and when you exit it takes you to a store where you can buy the high jump shoes for $60. You can jump 10 times higher in a level.

[@sailorbrookens3918]

I love this Game. It’s my childhood

[@MatthiaGryffine]

My mom literally spent entire weekends trying to beat this game.

[@TheColdest247]

Man I never got a chance to play this as a kid but wish I did..

[@Xeomuz]

How did you play this game without fall asleep

[@Thewolfguys.cartoons2000]

*Ahem* Fire emblem on famicom

[@texturem0nkey]

A really weird game, I hated it when I first tried it as a kid. The aesthetic was compelling however, and perhaps out of boredom I picked it up again sometime not too much later.. got COMPLETELY sucked in, something was just really good about this otherwise aggravating game. I remember getting all the way up to the final boss, before finally reaching the end of my patience and throwing in the towel at the eleventh hour (bah, this was also the case for me with TMNT, Contra III, Sonic 2, Tyson's Punch Out, a couple of other games as well) - bah! Finally came here to watch the ending. I was SO CLOSE!!

[@PharoahsKingdom]

Still have this game. It was a pain in the ass back then to beat.

[@one7deep7savage7]

Like most games around that Era...This game was incredibly frustrating and hard!! Yet I would still try to play it every day and never did beat it

[@awakeneddragon]

Geez, you showed me something I never saw before. This game was too much.

[@charlemagne7537]

Daamn good... I play when was a kid. It's hard. Thanks aniway

[@huginnandmuninn4865]

Omg memory unlocked i remember vaguely playing this as a kid 😮

[@karlluigi1987]

I use to play this game when I was a kid, I just don't know what to do after a certain point of the game

[@Elias991000]

I know how fustrated this game is but you get kinda exciting when you progress further when you find what you need. Back than, I didn't have Nintendo Power but I was able to get some help from my friends. Fun game though.

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

This game is honestly not as bad as people act. I find a lot of people have a "AVGN did a review, so the game is utter shit" complex. Is the game a masterpiece? Fuck no, but I would play this before quite a few other bad games. By the way, I loved that episode... Milon's Shitty Asshole.

[@LightMusicK]

Omg this game a lot of headache when kid lol

[@mjma5691]

Viki, Gigglebug, Tomo, Lola, Dash & Click, Rex, And Ping’s Secret Castle Plot: Viki And The Dino Explorers Explores in the Castle to Find Out How To Get The Crystal That Is Stolen by Darkbug And Snips, but Viki Asks Lucas For Assistance to Go To Many Floors and Save Skya. Characters: Dino Explorers: Viki Gigglebug Tomo Lola Dash & Click Rex Ping Bibi Lucas Ignatius Floors: Pacifying Corridor Village Ruins Of Alegria Magma Sea Vitah Ridge Mana Temple Argent Cage Town Ruins Of Rabrint Witch’s Crucible Lugre Dungeon Amber Village Of Grahn Jailed Town Ruins Of Liniya Liniya Cave Baom Hall Subzero Lagoon Wamuda Garden Watered Town Ruins Of Matarl Village Ruins Of Sereno Vensedol Castle Enemies: Darkbug Organization Masks: Snips Gargan Mashtooth Ogura Evil

[@cburgess08]

AVGN brought me here

[@dave4shmups]

I don't understand all the trashing of this game-it's more original then most of the games that come out these days!

[@scottcontois3957]

In this case, this is proof that original doesn't always equal good.

[@Aethereality]

This game was horrendously hard. I loved the music and stuff. I don't believe I got past the first two stages, except for the time my NES system glitched and I was able to jump into the well, which was also hard as shit, lol.

[@babayaga_gamer1759]

Que recuerdos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@aquamentus8951]

Is Milon Circus Charlie and Bubble Bobble's lovechild? Anyway damn, this game was EXTREMELY cryptic. You made it look easy TBH.

[@tectonicshrapnel3314]

Awesome job❤️ Definitely earned that like

[@theplasticvalley]

I watched this out of spite. When I was a kid, this game was my worst enemy. I couldn't figure it out, and even now I had to go google a walkthrough to figure out what in the fresh hell this game wanted me to do. I hope the rest of you enjoyed this game. Fuck it.

[@TheGameroomBlitz]

Do-Re-Mi Fantasy was a much better game than this for sure, although it was entirely different; more linear and less obtuse. For what it's worth, I think Milon's Secret Castle could have been a decent adventure if Hudson had smoothed out the wrinkles.

[@timothyroehm4307]

TheGameroomBlitz (What Wrinkles!!!?)

[@leedahye25]

This game is impossible to beat without a guide!!!

[@WaywardRobot]

Milton's Secret Castle: In how many layers of cryptic are you? Simon's Quest: I dunno like 5 or 6 my dude Milton's Secret Castle: You are like little baby, watch this

[@williamsmith666]

This game really isn't as bad as it's made out to be. If you know what you're doing, it's actually quite a bit of fun. Fuck what the AVGN thinks/says.

[@dumiclumic4423]

best game ever.

[@bagamoyosandisland]

I agree 100%

[@seanleong7274]

AGREE TO HELL MAN.

[@EternalightVXe]

LOL, I played this game and stuck on ground level...\

[@GBXDOTOR]

if it could tell you at least hints of what are you suppose to do it wouldnt be a really bad game

[@elliottryan13]

I used to think it was bc I was 7 years old I couldn't beat this. This just put that idea to rest.

[@korsakov9231]

Still better gameplay than Death Stranding.

[@MetalSmasherGaming]

How would you ever figure out how to reach the first boss if you didn't have Nintendo Power?

[@Bloodreign1]

A friend gave me my copy that I own now of this game, while not the most incredible game out there, it was fun to me. Shame we didn't get it's SFC only sequel Do Re Mi Fantasy.

[@juanquiroga2713]

Me acuerdo de este juego, nunca llegue siquiera al primer jefe xd . De todos modos es malditamente difcil. Como hizo para descubrir todo eso en una epoca que no existia internet?

[@freezzinghot]

I'm pretty sure I played this game as a kid, all I remember was you were outside a castle and it was dark, meaning I think I got stuck and the lighting bolts came to kill me (unless there is another game similar to this out there, which is doubtful). Anyway, this game was impossible as a little kid and now I see why, good lord.

[@stevensmith2085]

Yep same game 😆

[@michaelrate7693]

It could still have been good with the same amount of secrets, if they gave clues. (The shopkeeper doesn't count, after all who cares if you need item X if you do not know where to start looking?) Like a small message saying '3 item remain in this room' when you enter and destroyable blocks being a different shade to non-destroyable blocks.

[@AngryGumball]

Too many ads... Want to skip to a spot, bam, another ad...

[@StingJay]

MrPopsicle43 WORLD OF LONGPLAYS please tell me.. how did you know the real Maharito was in the green room?!? was that just luck or is there some way to know that... somehow

[@olympicjbrag5913]

I played this as a kid but it was called Maze Song...and everything was in Japanese.

[@dorpth]

A giant F.U. to this game. Came here just to see the end of the most frustrating NES rental of my childhood. There's challenging, and then there's bullshit. This game was tediously shooting every single block, every single empty space, jumping into every single empty space, trying to push every single block (which takes several seconds each before you know if it's pushable or not), and then doing it all over again in every room every time you got a new item because you didn't know which arbitrary trigger changed something (having to get spring shoes before the first boss would appear). It was the most bullshit "jump to hit every single empty space then pray" platformer since Super Pitfall. And THAT'S the ending you got? For challenging puzzle adventure games that were actually fun (and fair), The Adventures of Lolo and Solomon's Key showed you how it was done.

[@kristophsams5036]

Unless you document every single thing you need to do to get through the game, this game will make you rage with its near obscurity of what you are supposed to do and where to go.

[@LaZdiZorro]

Plz, more Avgn's quotes!!1!!1

[@waylonluo5312]

Great game play. How do you get to the boss from 46:50? I got stuck in the loophole.

[@waylonluo5312]

You have to break three bricks. That's the secret entrance to the boss. ughh.

[@RetroRogue.]

Would kill for a NES with all games or at least all in one cartridge. SNES as well. Stuck playing my 150 NES in one game for my GBA SP. For not having a console anyone out there wanting to retro game get an SP and 150 in one of Ebay.

[@trafelxkazuki9465]

After 30 years of curiosity❤🎉

[@lmn222002]

This game ruined my childhood...I could not figure who to play it and I played it so much it broke my Nintendo....the system wouldn't register any other games...Reading from the comments it seems everyone struggled against this game.

[@hundoe100]

lmn222002 well if u played it that much u must have enjoyed the game....

[@Endymion766]

this game is a good example of maybe going a bit too far in hiding secrets in a game. But some people do like combing every tile for secrets.

[@endefisto123]

This game is not great, but it isn't the terrible either. Sure it has a ton of secrets, but it is playable and it gives you a good feeling of accomplishment when you find something new... like a door. I would say it's below average. I mean my favorite game is Hudson's adventure island 2 and when i saw this i was really hyped, but unfortunately it wasn't nearly as good as i had hoped.

[@duanemartin4958]

Is it my-lawns or mil-lawns . Or is it mil-uns? 🤷

[@Bloodreign1]

My - Lahn

[@Angie2343]

At least the graphics are music are well done.

[@bassboi2001]

My first game for the NES

[@pakasack]

Inb4 AVGN ref-- shit nevermind.

[@ChosenMii]

When you need a Nintendo Power magazine just to know how to properly play the game and how to get continues, you know you played something way too cryptic for a game. And this was from the people behind Bomberman and the original Mario Party games (1 all the way to DS)

[@Matrixtibiano100]

The only flaw in my opinion of this game is this, it is extremaly random. Everything is a secret and you don't have an idea of what to do or where to go. Really.. who the hell would figure out how to beat this game? The sound, music and gameplay is okay.. the only thing that really fuck this game is those insane secrets and if you die, you can't continue unless you know the code, What is ironically ANOTHER secret in the game. It is on my list of games that "It could be perfected" Just like they did with Castlevania: Simon's Quest.. Who knows AVGN (Angry Video Game Nerd) will know what i am talking about.

[@childofthe80s1981]

I'm with the nerd on this one I played this game back in the day if I hadn't seen what to do in that first room by watching a Game Players strategy tape I probably wouldn't have been able to get any further

[@noctursaurio]

Nostalgia total

[@RegularGamesPlayer]

.....Why did I read this as "Million Secret Castles"?.....I need my eyes checked.

[@NedSar85]

RegularGamesPlayer ahhhhh I think that was the intention of the name

[@slick_Ric]

AH YES, BACK WHEN GAMES TOOK SOME WORK AND MEN WERE MEN....

[@tartuffethesprywonderdog5883]

Yeah, real manly game here...

[@mightylara2372]

30 years later I’m still confused.

[@kidkique]

I used to play this when I was about 10 years old and I never got to the skeleton boss because I never knew you had to kill those Princess Raven things... I guess I was pretty close - but I never saw that end board which has a strange Nazi Motif going on

[@timothyroehm4307]

Still can’t believe that this game is on the 3DS Eshop especially when this game called Milon’s Secret Castle is so tedious, frustrating, difficult, and hard to play!!!

[@RustyLeguito]

This game is entirely based on secrets...

[@otakuatarigamer]

It’s a game with “Secret” literally in the title, what did you expect?

[@JagofTroy]

One of those games I refused to play. Good job MrPopsicle! ~JagOfTroy

[@Mike14264]

I wouldn't even mind the game if it wasn't just so time consuming to find anything the first time around. Kids back then had all the time in the world. Meanwhile, I barely have any time at all, or at least it feels like that. And I feel like I'd need to have a _ton_ of time to kill in order to actually choose Milon's Secret Castle of all things as a game to waste my time with. I mean, it's probably not even as bad as most folks say, but... this one? Really? Out of everything else out there, even from the same year of release? I guess spending time to find a new secret could be seen as therapeutic? That's about it really, and I feel like all the other platforming challenges around that whole endeavor kinda kill that vibe. Well, y'know what, I decided to give the game a shot. Without having seen this video. Got stuck in the first floor after managing to find _most_ hidden things. I knew about Music Boxes, so I bopped under some blocks until I found one. I shot tiles until a honeycomb was revealed, not hard to find. Accidentally realized how bees are meant to be found, a bit bull, but still, a less crucial item anyways. Despite the deaths and restarts, the learning process was going somewhat well, even if some of those things were completely accidental, but still, relatively fair stuff so far. Things were going smoothly until I found the exits to both rooms... and suddenly, I had nothing else to do. Turns out I could _push_ blocks. Pushing a block has a bit of a delay to it, so it's not something I'd stumble onto, because I don't think I'd ever stay running against a single block for more than half a second while trying to get somewhere, I'm not a minger. I found out about this crucial mechanic by a guide. Crucial because it's how shops can be hidden apparently, which not only have hints, but always have a necessary item. ...anyways, besides all that, jumping around and defeating enemies ain't that bad. The controls are a bit greasy, Milon takes a while before gaining some acceleration, but I've played worse. I just wish the game had a better way of teaching you those sorta mechanics. Not even the arrangement of blocks on top of the second room of the first floor, which lets you shoot them until one of the solid blocks is isolated, would be enough to show me that I should push it, and I don't think there's any reason to think otherwise. Maybe if they formed an incomplete ladder or something? A recognizable block formation that you could complete by pushing the lone block towards it, so that you would think about at least trying it. Regardless, knowing now at least one more hidden mechanic, maybe I'll have some more fun with it.

[@sabrimunoz5970]

El mejor juego del universo!!! Gracias por subirlo. Díganme por favor si está para jugar online