Morality in TOP BOY - The Blurred Line Between Right and Wrong | Netflix

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How can you stick to your morals when faced with a lifestyle that demands you lose them? Writer Aniefiok ‘Neef’ Ekpoudom @aniefiokekp explores themes of morality, trauma and empathy in Top Boy, and the black, white and grey between right and wrong.
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Dushane wants to expand his empire beyond the streets. But with a huge investment, partners abroad and family crises, more money means more problems.

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@WilliamsPinch
@WilliamsPinch 2 жыл бұрын
The REAL villains of the show: *Pebbles* & *Curtis’s sister* .
@MysticRose559
@MysticRose559 2 жыл бұрын
pebbles wasn’t intentionally tryna be a villain she was jus dumb tho
@bobbydazzler7201
@bobbydazzler7201 2 жыл бұрын
@@MysticRose559 aside from reconnecting sully with his daughter, the woman has only caused problems for everyone she’s interacted with in the show by being way out of her depth
@chico9805
@chico9805 2 жыл бұрын
Curtis's sister is leng tho.
@yennox5338
@yennox5338 2 жыл бұрын
@@chico9805 You say that like it changes anything lol, she's prolly the best looking in the series witj Tilly tbf
@tiopira5
@tiopira5 2 жыл бұрын
Curtis is the biggest weirdo in the show. When Dushane said to his face "I just think your kinda weird bruv" at the table is a good scene.
@chocolatemami3956
@chocolatemami3956 2 жыл бұрын
People need to realize Jamie didn’t kill Kit to gain Dashane’s loyalty …. He killed Kit because of his brothers 💯
@o-wolf
@o-wolf 2 жыл бұрын
He also killed him cause kits honestly a liability
@ghostfacescrillaNG
@ghostfacescrillaNG 2 жыл бұрын
Oh that’s ok then. He killed his best friend because he didn’t want to move his brothers! 🤦🏻‍♂️
@istoleyourcinnamonroll7194
@istoleyourcinnamonroll7194 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostfacescrillaNG cause he knew that if he forced his brothers to move with him that their relationship would only become even worse
@HonestMan112
@HonestMan112 2 жыл бұрын
@@o-wolf Jamie's a liability to his brothers. Any gangbanger is a liability to their family
@Wonderkid44
@Wonderkid44 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh thats why Sully duppied him, he knew that a friend killer could never be loyal
@danij9999
@danij9999 2 жыл бұрын
The guilt the brothers will feel because they didn't want to move and that ultimately caused Jamie's death
@jonjones745
@jonjones745 2 жыл бұрын
damn thats so right ,another way kitzz still would be alive.what a plotwist
@Peedocatcher1
@Peedocatcher1 2 жыл бұрын
Kits and Jamie’s
@yungkingshaka1227
@yungkingshaka1227 2 жыл бұрын
FUK THEM BROTHERS😂
@YakiOnigiriZoro
@YakiOnigiriZoro 2 жыл бұрын
Why should they feel guilt? They never wanted to deal with Jamie's lifestyle, he forced them into it because of his own circumstances.
@ccfcbluebirds2312
@ccfcbluebirds2312 2 жыл бұрын
@@YakiOnigiriZoro grief works in mysterious ways bro. People find ways to blame themselves
@aldomartinez9154
@aldomartinez9154 2 жыл бұрын
A character in this series that I am most worried about is Stefan, given that he was getting his taste of running in the roads by attempting to help his female friend in selling the gun she found. Although it is unlikely, he would last long enough in the roads since the deal went wrong almost costing his life if it weren't for his older brother Jamie stepping in. However, witnessing the death of Jamie and losing his best friend to roads is enough to drive someone mad. Both Jamie and Ats became a product of their environment costing them their peace, freedom, and lives and I fear that Stefan will also be headed into the same direction. Who knows what the final upcoming season will bring but one thing I believe we can all agree on is that nobody is safe.
@trepeezy362
@trepeezy362 2 жыл бұрын
Stef gone drop sumn fasho next season 😭
@D-A-A-
@D-A-A- 2 жыл бұрын
What you talking about that scene was put in there purposely for the fact that it shows us rhe viewer rhat Stefan already knows how to cock a gun and all that, looks like he did it with ease when he pulled it on the man in the flat, straight out his pocket and pulled the hammer back no trouble, 100% wasn't the first time he tried it out. It clearly shows or tells us Stefan is going down that road, especially after seeing his brother die the way he did
@federicolacognata7038
@federicolacognata7038 2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I think it’s gonna happen in next season. They opened his arch in the best way possible.
@rishadhossain3581
@rishadhossain3581 2 жыл бұрын
So why didnt ranell avenge leon
@D-A-A-
@D-A-A- 2 жыл бұрын
@@rishadhossain3581 he tried to ? He tried to kill dushane while he was having a smoke then ranells mum comes an stops them
@yungdon1934
@yungdon1934 2 жыл бұрын
Jaimie’s death felt so realistic, it was crushing 😭
@chezzag7427
@chezzag7427 2 жыл бұрын
i actually felt so weird for like 2 days straight after watching that ending. still not over it lol
@yungdon1934
@yungdon1934 2 жыл бұрын
@@chezzag7427 same, when he said no right before he got shot, and his brothers reaction bothered me to the max
@LL-ip5mm
@LL-ip5mm 2 жыл бұрын
There all such good actors
@Ant25396
@Ant25396 2 жыл бұрын
@@chezzag7427 glad I ain’t the only 1
@jnyerere
@jnyerere 2 жыл бұрын
Nah it definitely traumatized me a little. I didn't know how much I was invested in Jamie until he was killed.
@minismalls3096
@minismalls3096 2 жыл бұрын
the last scene was wild, cause remember sully didn't want to kill dris where his daughter could find him. and was also upset with shane for involving the police to arrest those kids. then at the end he killed jamie... in front of his little brothers. shit just goes full circle
@dylankayijuka3817
@dylankayijuka3817 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I really didn't understand why tf Sully did that! It was such against his principles
@3.2mviews10
@3.2mviews10 2 жыл бұрын
Looked in his eyes and everything then shot him to the head. Thats deep bro
@kalilabraahim6729
@kalilabraahim6729 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, specifically when he found out that Jamie didn't order the hit on him at the cremation. Lauryn pillow talked with Leyton.
@lavendertiyesabrown7206
@lavendertiyesabrown7206 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylankayijuka3817 Yeah I hope that last scene is a just a weird dream..please...
@temif6469
@temif6469 2 жыл бұрын
@@lavendertiyesabrown7206 lol ! It’s not . This ain’t Disney 😂😂😂😂
@notmeee496
@notmeee496 2 жыл бұрын
People forget Sully is a literal psycho, proved by his guilt for leaving Dris’s daughter fatherless but proceeded to kill Jamie infront of Stefan, it’s not bad writing it’s showing how far gone Sully is that he’s losing his morals
@justanotheruser43
@justanotheruser43 2 жыл бұрын
Sully and Jamie are such well written and played characters. Huge respect to the actors
@keishawnmccartney2704
@keishawnmccartney2704 2 жыл бұрын
As much as we all love Jamie, I think we can all agree now that its not a dream
@Lourax44
@Lourax44 2 жыл бұрын
Jamie is a rat anybody who respects him is a rat
@Laura-sg6ss
@Laura-sg6ss 2 жыл бұрын
loooolll don't rip the bandaid off, let's all pretend for a bit
@Laura-sg6ss
@Laura-sg6ss 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostfacescrillaNG well it was either he died or he died so welp🤷🏽‍♀️
@Laura-sg6ss
@Laura-sg6ss 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostfacescrillaNG so what was the alternative? Not kill him and get killed?? Are you struggling to read and comprehend?💀💀 ain't about sides, it's about reality. It was die or die, bro. What are you on about?
@Laura-sg6ss
@Laura-sg6ss 2 жыл бұрын
@@ghostfacescrillaNG you think they weren't coming back?? Coz their plan was to come back 💀 where were you WHEN THEY WERE CHATTING ABOUT THIS?? lowe it man ugh. And no one was talking about what you would do💀 it's about what he did regardless. He wasn't ready to leave his brothers after they lost their parents, he was the only one left to take care of them. You're moving as though you're the only who gets affected when you make decisions. And yes it then affected Sully but my point is it would impact people REGARDLESS and then dictate their actions. Again lowe it.
@JustSendMeLocation
@JustSendMeLocation 2 жыл бұрын
Jamie had to die, at the end of the day Sully killed Dris because of Jamie, then Jamie tried to snake them in Spain, Al Bueno confirmed it during the meeting, then when Sully gets back to the ends Dushane talking about passing it all to Jamie...imagine how Sully was feeling the whole time?
@maceowatson9958
@maceowatson9958 2 жыл бұрын
Sully killed Dris because Dris snaked them to Sully's cousin.
@JJJackson777
@JJJackson777 2 жыл бұрын
it's not just that though, if dooshane & sully retired i doubt jamie's letting them live peacefully with all the information & respect they've got between them. i'm mad interested to see what actual reason the show gives sully for doing it, cos rn it could be a few motives.
@prezidentjeff
@prezidentjeff 2 жыл бұрын
Bang on assessment
@TheReefsFromSMC
@TheReefsFromSMC 2 жыл бұрын
It's Juan el bueno not Al Bueno lmao
@chi3812
@chi3812 2 жыл бұрын
@@maceowatson9958 To Sully's cousin
@DNTGWANLIKEURSICK
@DNTGWANLIKEURSICK 2 жыл бұрын
I literally felt like I lost someone I knew when Jamie died that was a sad one still
@avenoirrr
@avenoirrr 2 жыл бұрын
I had a feeling someone was going to die immediately when they were showing the happy montage at the end and the only person they didn’t show was Sully. It basically confirmed when Stef went to answer the door but Jamie insisted. It reminded me of a scene from the original Dragon Ball where Goku leaves something behind at the end of the tournament and tries to go get it but Krillin insist on getting it instead and is ultimately killed by King Piccolo
@trepeezy362
@trepeezy362 2 жыл бұрын
Never thought about what Sully’s final decision representing him losing the battle with himself. Half the time idk who to side with which shows how good the writers are. Now I’m ready to see Stef’s dark side 🔥🔥
@cdog857
@cdog857 8 ай бұрын
Great point. I end up siding with none of the main characters, they all deserve to go IMO. The heroes are the people like Ats' Mum, just trying to get by and live a good life with a load of roaming maniacs as neighbours.
@truevirtue8082
@truevirtue8082 2 жыл бұрын
The more I think about it, the more I understand why Sully said “Just because we didn’t lose, doesn’t mean we won.” That move Dushane pulled was basically him calling the cops on his competition. It was BS. And he got a 14 yr old killed because of it, which is a recurring theme with the Summerhouse crew, getting youngin’s caught up and killed in the game. That’s why I think Jaq took Ats death so hard as well, she knew the part she played in him dying.
@geraldking9385
@geraldking9385 2 жыл бұрын
ATS is responsible for his own death like kit was talking about. He talked way too much and certain people didnt like that
@minismalls3096
@minismalls3096 2 жыл бұрын
Ats was moving mad after jamie got locked up, at least thats what kit said
@BeanieBanta
@BeanieBanta 2 жыл бұрын
Nah man, Ats can go and deal with himself lol. Man was trying to get bread to help his mother then suddenly acts tough and starts yelling at her? Like bro did u forget why u started this in the first place? Then he snaked his own bestfriend? Got into a fight with Stefan? Started cussing him out? bruh nah. I liked him at first then just hated his guts after.
@naturalbby1722
@naturalbby1722 2 жыл бұрын
That part “summerhouse always get youngins caught up and killed” so true because look at what happened to Michael! He got caught up with the cops told them the truth but still tried to stay loyal to dushane and summerhouse the we see his fate
@vmrre8267
@vmrre8267 Жыл бұрын
@@BeanieBanta Bro he was a Kid😂 Kids acting weird sometimes
@cozyfades1587
@cozyfades1587 2 жыл бұрын
Dushane is the real monster of the three protagonists
@christopherayettey4390
@christopherayettey4390 2 жыл бұрын
Why u say that
@JJJackson777
@JJJackson777 2 жыл бұрын
he's worst in summerhouse seasons imo, kidnapping n cooperating w feds
@cozyfades1587
@cozyfades1587 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherayettey4390 he kidnapped a kid, he's turned children into drug dealers, he's gotten the feds involved to deal with his enemies, and he's shown to kinda treat his guys like they're all expendable. When Sully got shot at he wasn't ready to slide but had it been the other way around...well we know. And he was gonna turn his back on Summerhouse and have it gentrified but then his mom died and Shelly made him see reason. None of them are saints but Sully and Jamie definitely had a...better moral compass I guess?
@BeyondTheInternet
@BeyondTheInternet 2 жыл бұрын
*Wait Who's The Third Protagonists?*
@BeyondTheInternet
@BeyondTheInternet 2 жыл бұрын
@@christopherayettey4390 *Dushane Is By Far The Most Evil, I Can't Say Sully Since He Always Hurt Those That Hurt Him And His People.* *But Dushane Is The Type Of Person To Use And Do Anything He Can To Get Rid Of You, And All He Cares About Is His Money, He's Very Dangerous.*
@callumbuchan8629
@callumbuchan8629 2 жыл бұрын
These are fantastic videos! They bring the series to life even further.
@yonathanis
@yonathanis 2 жыл бұрын
You know what else brings the series to life watching it while I fucked your mom + ratio + who asked + L
@applesandpears
@applesandpears 2 жыл бұрын
wow this was good also I never ever wanna see Tia or Pebbles again in life. dead actors.
@geert811
@geert811 2 жыл бұрын
I hated Tia so much OML she was so weird and smiling all the time for nothing
@nharris2938
@nharris2938 2 жыл бұрын
I hate Tia most of all
@anon131
@anon131 2 жыл бұрын
people are so dumb lmao tia and pebbles are characters not fkn actors, tia has a shit life her parents ain't around to support her or to guide her sje don't experience what a majority of other kids in society do, they neglect her to fend for herself, she could use the smile to hide behind, this show is good at character building and letting us in on a bit of their background to understand why they have become what they have and why they are in the business theyre, so maybe more will be revealed in the next series with tia and yea pebbles is annoying but you ain't supposed to like her why would you like a fuck up that set up sully and constantly lies so the fact you don't like her means the actress is doing a great job of that
@ghennifergrievous9463
@ghennifergrievous9463 2 жыл бұрын
The pebbles actor is actually a good actor but her character in the show is annoying
@chi3812
@chi3812 2 жыл бұрын
@@geert811 She was portrayed well. If you're from end you know couple girls like that
@GyallisSzn
@GyallisSzn 2 жыл бұрын
Killing off Jamie was a bad move. He brought the young fresh vibe to the show and it was leading to a eventually showdown between him and dushane or sully. He reminded me of Marlo in the wire. Marlo was a young charismatic and smart and we rooted for him cause we could relate, much like Jamie. Instead they wrote Jamie into an overzealous ungrateful eediott which only justified his killing.
@MrDdub619
@MrDdub619 2 жыл бұрын
No one liked Marlo. Jamie became a likable character. Everyone wanted Marlo dead.
@ioannicolau1560
@ioannicolau1560 2 жыл бұрын
Who exactly is we? 😅 I’d be proper scared of a group who rooted for Marlo
@Dookman030
@Dookman030 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely no one rooted for marlo lol
@Originalknyte
@Originalknyte Жыл бұрын
Sully is Stringer Bell
@stephenwangondu3618
@stephenwangondu3618 9 ай бұрын
Also the actor for Jamie, didn't want to do another show. So they had to kill off Jamie.
@matthew3078
@matthew3078 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish they'd take more time to look at the lives of the vulnerable children that get groomed by these gangs and used as dealers and traffickers (e.g., on county lines). It's possible to have a bit of sympathy for Jamie given his family situation, but how can you think that Dushane, a man pushing 40 with an amazing flat and plenty of cash, is 'blurring the line between right and wrong' by being head of a gang that uses children to sell drugs? I also have no sympathy for Shelly, given she must know this but is still with him and brings her daughter to his house.
@minismalls3096
@minismalls3096 2 жыл бұрын
those kids also need money, you see how ats was struggling with money cause his mom was facing deportation and went straight to a hot boy asking for work when he was like 11 years old. its a crazy cycle.
@matthew3078
@matthew3078 2 жыл бұрын
@@minismalls3096 yeah that's basically exactly what I mean, the ats storyline in series 1 was great. Also the original storyline with Ra'nell, that whole dynamic between him and Dushane was exactly what the show should be about
@Wonderkid44
@Wonderkid44 2 жыл бұрын
Bro in that life thats how they show love unfortunately
@heisenberg6142
@heisenberg6142 6 ай бұрын
They’ve done it multiple times with gem, Michael and Ats what more u want
@TheAlkebulanTrust
@TheAlkebulanTrust 2 жыл бұрын
That's the thing about life in Western Society some people have good morals but they use their current environment to get what is needed. Jamie is one of those characters where he has no other choice but to take care of his brothers. In the most effective way possible. But then there is trying to be the Top Boy which can seem selfish. Especially if they are doing well not as the Top Boy.
@kylefidler4340
@kylefidler4340 2 жыл бұрын
He could just get a job at a tesco warehouse like a normal person 😄
@ifyouknowyouknow6604
@ifyouknowyouknow6604 2 жыл бұрын
@@kylefidler4340 don't think that would be enough to provide for 2 younger brothers while paying rent.
@kylefidler4340
@kylefidler4340 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't one of the brothers have a job? Can't he contribute? Plus council flats do help with housing benefit and probably as he's a guardian for a child he'd probably get support for that either so that's aload of shite tbh now he ain't supporting shit cause he dead 😄
@ifyouknowyouknow6604
@ifyouknowyouknow6604 2 жыл бұрын
@@kylefidler4340 brother was as a delivery driver part time and in all likelihood Jamie was paying for his brothers uni. So no. Also child benefits aren't alot especially these days.
@kylefidler4340
@kylefidler4340 2 жыл бұрын
@@ifyouknowyouknow6604 why would he pay for his uni if he can get a student loan?
@emekaosuagwu6416
@emekaosuagwu6416 2 жыл бұрын
This narration is beautifully written Woooow👏👏👏👏
@christieomojo
@christieomojo 2 жыл бұрын
how can you make good choices when you've got no choices
@skimpanana9499
@skimpanana9499 2 жыл бұрын
bars !!
@JohnDoe-lj3ph
@JohnDoe-lj3ph 2 жыл бұрын
I'm stealing this.
@yhwhal
@yhwhal 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds very cool and philosophical, too bad that ain't the truth. We do have choices. But it takes some guts to do the right thing. I rather eat plain rice and go to bed peacefully than eat meat after I killed somebody. Having cold blood ain't cool, it's not to be praised and clearly not an excuse for anything in this world. Morals are NOT open to debate. Also strictly talking about the UK, the UK government is probably the best out there to help the people with no income or low income. No wonder why I pay SO much tax lol. So don't tell me there were no ways.
@BM-ir1dr
@BM-ir1dr Жыл бұрын
@@yhwhal this isn't true. A lots changed and welfare benefits have been slashed even for the most vulnerable. A lot of European countries have more caring social systems than Britain. A lot of people are really struggling and it just takes one bad situation for you to be pushed into choices you wouldn't make if you weren't struggling so badly.
@moneytttt1140
@moneytttt1140 2 жыл бұрын
Jamie was killed because he was a rat. 1. Sully and Dushane see things differently. Dushane thinks by killing Kit that Jamie is Loyal. Sully see’s it that if you can kill your best friend, a someone you have been with since day 1 then your not loyal. Sully actually says this to Dushane when Dushane say’s he’s loyal he killed Kit….. Sully says yeah he did that for you!. 2.Jamie tried to screw them over Morocco. Sully knows that Jamie can’t be trusted. 3. As much as Jamie did what he did for his brothers, Sully doesn’t know that!. We as the audience see a softer side to Jamie. We know the backstory of his parents and how he’s trying to raise his brothers the best he can. But the streets don’t know that. Sully doesn’t know that. 4. Sully doesn’t want to be Top Boy so it’s not over jealousy. In many ways Sully is already Top Boy. The youngens all look upto him, and he answers to absolutely no-one. Dushane might very well be Top Boy in terms of business, But Sully is Top Boy on the streets 5. The whole Dris thing is different. He betrayed Sully. Kit didn’t do anything to Jamie. He actually looked after his Brothers when he was away and was always their for him
@therealmeekun
@therealmeekun 2 жыл бұрын
Jamie owes Sully no loyalty plus you act like Dushane and Sully didn't snake Jamie to get to the top. He was supposed to kill them for that you know
@AngelDavz07
@AngelDavz07 2 жыл бұрын
@@therealmeekun true but the main characters are dushane and sully anybody other than them can be considered an opp
@eddietorres9524
@eddietorres9524 2 жыл бұрын
good breakdown
@bryantperez4786
@bryantperez4786 2 жыл бұрын
That's mad
@gailainsley6939
@gailainsley6939 7 ай бұрын
Top boy is such a good show and has been living rent free in my mind ever since 😂 especially Jamie.😫
@mightbeleo
@mightbeleo 2 жыл бұрын
Stef is gonna become a mad man. Best friend and older brother killed? Yea he’s gonna be a monster
@dc477
@dc477 2 жыл бұрын
Really well constructed review, an eye opener too.
@Hbcfrtyujjbbcxdtmnggyuoop
@Hbcfrtyujjbbcxdtmnggyuoop 2 жыл бұрын
My man you have one hell of a voice 👍
@jnyerere
@jnyerere 2 жыл бұрын
That last episode was Stefan's villain origin story. There was a lot of foreshadowing of Stefan heading towards a path similar to that of his brother. But now we know he's definitely about to turn for the worst.
@johnnguru9162
@johnnguru9162 2 жыл бұрын
Talk of unpredictability, Like Game of thrones, This series was one of the best story lines I have ever followed and watched. I would rate this artwork an 8.5 or even a 9.
@TheHui
@TheHui 2 жыл бұрын
This season for me just wasn’t as good. 1) Season 1 ending with the undercover cops leading an investigation to take Dushane down was a great twist to end the show but in this season they were pretty useless and they gave their identities away whilst Dushane was in court and that was it. Nothing at all really considering how much of a vital role they could’ve played especially the fact they were undercover the whole of last season. 2) Sully seemed like he was done from life and I remember seeing a lot of rumours that he may have left Dris to flee rather than killing him especially given the fact that they both know how it’s like to have a daughter so maybe that could’ve been a reason. Also the fact that it showed Sully struggling to pull the trigger. But as season 2 went on it gave the impression he did kill Dris and this was affecting him being with Dushane etc especially because he was the one that gave Sully the order. But we find out in a later episode in season 2 that Dris was shot 20 times. That must mean that Sully is actually crazy crazy in the head and no other explanation. So him being all depressed and hiding out just seemed stupid. 3) shelly Being harassed by a women that nobody even knows was just annoying. Yes the directors are tryna give a bit of backbone to her character and show even the so called “good” people have a dark past. Imo it was just a bit pointless and lead to crappy dead end. 4) Lizzie who played a big part in season 1 was understandable because she was the main supplier but in this season we didn’t even need her. She was just a link maybe to the whole “Moroccan Spain” thing that wasn’t even major come to think of it now. She was just already telling Jamie to snake Dushane when he gets there. Just a stupid move. 5)BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENT: Killing off Jamie of course. His whole character was just poorly written. Was a proper small fish in this season which is understandable coz he works for Dushane now and was kind of under his thumb. But him trying to snake Dushane in the same season that Dushane helped him avoid prison was just crappy writing. I get it that the whole show might be about “Sully and Dushane” but come on. His whole persona was ruthless in a smart way in season 1 and always being a step ahead in the game which made him on Top from Season 1 straight away. But even we know that this was a schoolboy error and just stupid. The only thing that makes sense how the writers portrayed him in this season was to not give him that vital type of role and focal point because they were gonna kill him off anyways and plus maybe the actor in real life Michael Ward who plays Jamie is moving on to other things. That’s the most logical explanation because why would you get rid of a cast member who was bringing a lot more light to Top Boy for the good.
@Zorro35
@Zorro35 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t of put it better myself. I agree with all your points!
@AAWWWWWW
@AAWWWWWW 2 жыл бұрын
100% with Shelleys annoying mate, Lizzie and the under covers. Should never had any air time any of them. I think we have to remember this isn’t Hollywood and stays true to real life and Jamie’s killing was a portrayal of that. A little illogical, human, no Forgiving. I even go as far to say the whole Curtis storyline was pointless too. Jamie going wasnt a bad choice. I think they could have impacted it better in season 5. But as I said no fairytale needed. Ideally they would have dropped stories and focused more on Spain / Morocco / Jamie’s character. At end of day it’s one season out of 4 soon to be 5 really, so sometimes used for character building. I thinn sully killing Jamie may nit been the best for the Audience, but is pretty realistic why sully did it, real life raw > Hollywood
@palala316
@palala316 2 жыл бұрын
You’re definitely right man.Same thing I said to when they killed Jamie.Why would u kill Jamie knowing he’s the one that’s really making the show what it is.I just don’t see next season being that good of a season.Unless if jaime’s death was just a dream and they continue from their.
@johndoe-mf4qj
@johndoe-mf4qj 2 жыл бұрын
real ones know that as season 3
@ominxusbeats7490
@ominxusbeats7490 2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy I remember listening to kano on my Nokia way back, he's actually such a talented actor fr fr
@phuckyoutube5927
@phuckyoutube5927 2 жыл бұрын
I cant believe jamie got popped like that so sad bro
@LL-ip5mm
@LL-ip5mm 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so sad
@LL-ip5mm
@LL-ip5mm 2 жыл бұрын
Sully fd up
@akremsuadik5334
@akremsuadik5334 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible breakdown!
@stefanmusaki8881
@stefanmusaki8881 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent commentary !
@namata305
@namata305 2 жыл бұрын
Dushane became this cold, tough and stonehearted in the second season. He switched up real fast
@tshiamolehomo5627
@tshiamolehomo5627 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video
@aGwEENapple
@aGwEENapple 9 ай бұрын
This breakdown is great because it mentions that a lot of what they did was wrong but it shows their reasons why they were in that life. And these are just people just trying to survive!
@prettyboyg1278
@prettyboyg1278 2 жыл бұрын
So basically.. Pebbles is the reason why Jamie died and why Sully lost like 4 seasons of growth and character development. I really don’t know how to feel about that..
@truevirtue8082
@truevirtue8082 2 жыл бұрын
Such a reckless character. I was hoping they took her out.
@arancienne
@arancienne 2 жыл бұрын
How is pebbles the reason jamie died lol wtf
@tiroramfolo1700
@tiroramfolo1700 2 жыл бұрын
@@arancienne Sully almost died trying to get Pebbles out of the situation with Cyprus and Kadeem, while he was moving away from the roads. Dushane had to step in and save him, and then Sully owed Dushane. That’s why he went to Spain to deal with the Juan El Bueno situation and found out Jamie was snaking them, which led to Sully deciding to Kill Jamie. Had it not been for Pebbles Sully would’ve never got back into the life and Jamie would’ve still Been alive, it’s all one big domino effect
@arancienne
@arancienne 2 жыл бұрын
@@tiroramfolo1700 Oooh I see now thanks for explaining
@tiroramfolo1700
@tiroramfolo1700 2 жыл бұрын
@UCjV3WFcB_eks_HpIHHMuZuQ but the thing is Dushane and Sully were not on talking terms before Dushane rescued him, that acted as a bridge between the two, and that would have NEVER happened had it not been for Pebbles putting Sully in that position through her stupidness, and at that point Sully wouldn’t have felt the need to go to Spain even if he didn’t like the way Jamie dealt with it because he would’ve been helping Dushane first of all, who he wouldn’t have been on talking terms with at that point, and would’ve been back in the life he was running away from secondly. And yes Jamie died cause he snaked but had Sully not gone to Spain he would’ve not found out and Jamie would still be alive. It ALL leads back to Pebbles you see?
@michaelhunter4891
@michaelhunter4891 2 жыл бұрын
We need more content like this
@ericappiah-kubi6269
@ericappiah-kubi6269 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video
@ROCABLOC
@ROCABLOC 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t get enough of TOP BOY bruv
@prezydc
@prezydc 2 жыл бұрын
Our action never exists in isolation we are all products mold by our Environment
@dwayneadewunmi9743
@dwayneadewunmi9743 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing I love it
@farzaslasher422
@farzaslasher422 8 ай бұрын
I can’t until they do a video on season 3 of top boy 🙌🏽
@lindii5018
@lindii5018 2 жыл бұрын
Best channel
@joantonio6331
@joantonio6331 2 жыл бұрын
Top boys is the UK version of "The wire" but in a more focused way.
@23bramble
@23bramble 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the very same
@dannyb6861
@dannyb6861 2 жыл бұрын
Not seen the wire is it decent?
@Derp_Skilz
@Derp_Skilz 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannyb6861 not decent, the wire is like a documentary on crime in an american city. One of the best shows out there. Not decent but pretty fucking good;)
@dannyb6861
@dannyb6861 2 жыл бұрын
@@Derp_Skilz ha ha ill check it out then cheers
@mogreen1232
@mogreen1232 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannyb6861 it’s slower but more deeper and iconic. The wire and sopranos are considered the 2 greatest shows of all time
@jlorreno
@jlorreno 2 жыл бұрын
This video just made me realize the music on top boy during some of these scenes could’ve been better. It would’ve connected with me more if the music was more strategically selected
@MK-gv7eq
@MK-gv7eq 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think Ranell (from S1) will ever come back ?
@MK-gv7eq
@MK-gv7eq 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine at the end of the next season Ranell teams up with stef to take down Dushane and Sully - Ranell hates Dushane and Sully will get revenge from Sully!!!
@ibstudiosHD
@ibstudiosHD 2 жыл бұрын
My prediction is Stefan is going to kill sully. He looked into sully eyes right before he killed Jamie. Trust me, that's what is going to end up with sully. I don't end see a happy ending for Dushane
@imani828
@imani828 2 жыл бұрын
Soooooo good!
@aGwEENapple
@aGwEENapple 9 ай бұрын
Jamie was just a young man taking care of his brothers the best way that he knew how. Unfortunately, we have to face some of our wrong decisions in the worst ways. Very sad to see him killed that way and choking for breaths.
@Newtwo_
@Newtwo_ 2 жыл бұрын
The most underrated serial.
@marvinsepulveda1802
@marvinsepulveda1802 2 жыл бұрын
If u noticed a Women had to do w every situation.. I forget the names; but pebbles for sully, the white woman got Jamie done; the lil girl got Jamie killed, bc he thought he was her at the door, the white lady making this girl dig up a body n sht. Dushanne n his moms, he got out the deal n now is forced to stay in longer which by all means will lead to downfall. Sht even the Spanish dude w his dying wife which made everything shaky to begin with. This show has a lot of layers once u start thinking n it’s why I like it!
@ad5048
@ad5048 2 жыл бұрын
what does this mean ?
@Fsoricko
@Fsoricko 2 жыл бұрын
Be quiet
@marvinsepulveda1802
@marvinsepulveda1802 2 жыл бұрын
@@ad5048 women r deadly lol.. na.. Remember in the beginning, when the dude says “women r stronger”? It goes straight from there; the women carry this season.. every major decision is made bc of a woman in some way
@WilliamsPinch
@WilliamsPinch 2 жыл бұрын
You missed an opportunity to blame Curtis’ sister lol
@marvinsepulveda1802
@marvinsepulveda1802 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fsoricko Smd
@BenBennnis
@BenBennnis 2 жыл бұрын
Dris got done as he grassed on sully and Dushane nothing else
@ellogeeza8086
@ellogeeza8086 2 жыл бұрын
So technically its pebbles fault that Jamie died Cus she got sully back on badness
@Lourax44
@Lourax44 2 жыл бұрын
Nah he’s a rat he was always going to go eventually
@MTCMCMXCI
@MTCMCMXCI 2 жыл бұрын
Kit literally young chop 😂
@phuckyoutube5927
@phuckyoutube5927 2 жыл бұрын
2:18 was he really running that far though 😂
@Itsmykool
@Itsmykool 2 жыл бұрын
Jamie snacked his brother for his brothers.
@brewproductionz2
@brewproductionz2 2 жыл бұрын
Lowkey
@arancienne
@arancienne 2 жыл бұрын
Bring Ra'Nell back in season 5!
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
I like the moral evolution of Sully the most, dushane is too cold he almost sent a innocent kid to jail, he tried to justify selling drugs in front of his mother..Jamie had Principles but was too ambitious and involved in this street life..all of them are Bad people but to me, Sully is the most decent of these street Monsters..
@joonyjun7861
@joonyjun7861 2 жыл бұрын
what about what he did at the very end?
@fresitahailey
@fresitahailey 2 жыл бұрын
Sully is still a street monster to me but everyone different in their own way, got a different drive/traumas. Sully prolly got the most bodies tbh he a cold blooded bc he’s numb from everything :( shit can kill ur spirit.
@narfazlee5162
@narfazlee5162 2 жыл бұрын
Jamie is definitely not an innocent kid lol
@BeyondTheInternet
@BeyondTheInternet 2 жыл бұрын
@@joonyjun7861 *He Killed Ah Monster At The Very End, What's Wrong With What Sully Did?*
@BeyondTheInternet
@BeyondTheInternet 2 жыл бұрын
@@narfazlee5162 *Right, I Don't Know What's Wrong With These Jamie Fan Boys.*
@mrstavel7785
@mrstavel7785 2 жыл бұрын
Season 4 missed dris a bit
@thekid3159
@thekid3159 2 жыл бұрын
I’m worried about Aron and stef because jamie is gone
@kamoheloiannk617
@kamoheloiannk617 8 ай бұрын
After watching the last season... Stef really has good morals
@seamieshame
@seamieshame 2 жыл бұрын
Barge is on regents canal, not the Thames
@dazmills6759
@dazmills6759 2 жыл бұрын
The woman living next door to sully on the boat is undercover, that's the plot twist for next series
@tremell7559
@tremell7559 2 жыл бұрын
If she is it would be an extremely huge coincidence. That the person he rented that particular spot from. Just so happens to be undercover. And that very same undercover sleeps with him. All this to get not a single whiff of evidence or criminal activity witnessed on his part! See where I'm going...
@dannyb6861
@dannyb6861 2 жыл бұрын
Plus they did the undercover thing in last series so can't really do it again so soon
@JYMAHJAMES
@JYMAHJAMES 2 жыл бұрын
nah that’s dead
@dazmills6759
@dazmills6759 2 жыл бұрын
@@tremell7559 you mad, not a single whiff of criminal activity, man literally kidnapped him. She's a fed, sully will get offered immunity to take dushane down, the dilemma is the ending fam. Mark my words.
@dannyb6861
@dannyb6861 2 жыл бұрын
@@dazmills6759 immunity from what? Getting kidnapped 🤷‍♂️🤣
@TommasoFirmini
@TommasoFirmini 9 ай бұрын
The more i watch this show the more i love sully and his development/arc. Seeing him go from leaving prison to be back under dushane, to losing jason and himself. Finally he steps up to his position, goes to spain to embarrass jaime and ultimately takes him off the board
@pamelaandreoli3107
@pamelaandreoli3107 2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to the moment when stef will avenge jamie's death by killing sully hahaha!
@user-eq5kd3vn7q
@user-eq5kd3vn7q 2 жыл бұрын
the thumbnail looks kinda hilarious
@oliverolayinka8879
@oliverolayinka8879 2 жыл бұрын
Jaqs gonna be the top boy by the end of next season.
@danij9999
@danij9999 2 жыл бұрын
Thought I was the only one seeing that.
@knpastoril
@knpastoril 2 жыл бұрын
Top Girl my G
@LL-ip5mm
@LL-ip5mm 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely or either Steph
@MrA1wizard
@MrA1wizard 9 ай бұрын
Tomboy!
@fasthracing
@fasthracing 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thanks for posting. Is Jamie dead though?? Maybe we just think so? I hope not we need him in the next series.
@exstatictermz2025
@exstatictermz2025 2 жыл бұрын
Brudda he was shot in the head...
@mihirrrrr
@mihirrrrr 2 жыл бұрын
nah he dead bro
@matthewbob513
@matthewbob513 2 жыл бұрын
Why you asking Netflix like they gone respond? 😭😭
@fasthracing
@fasthracing 2 жыл бұрын
@@mihirrrrr We saw him shot yep but do we know he's dead?
@fasthracing
@fasthracing 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewbob513 Maybe the chap that did the narration looks at the comments? Maybe
@davidclottey3935
@davidclottey3935 2 жыл бұрын
I like Sully so much till he killed Jamie. I really wanted Jamie and Jaq to rule. One working for Dushane and the other for Sully.
@BeyondTheInternet
@BeyondTheInternet 2 жыл бұрын
*Nah...*
@jasonbando7228
@jasonbando7228 2 жыл бұрын
Be realistic when do u see a cry bby like jaq running a drug game 😅😂
@BeyondTheInternet
@BeyondTheInternet 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonbando7228 *Aye Don't Talk About Jaq Like That, She's Emotional Still...*
@davidclottey3935
@davidclottey3935 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonbando7228 Queen of the South. She got stronger
@jasonbando7228
@jasonbando7228 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidclottey3935 I’m talking reality mate in UK she would be a groupie for the mandem not a top ‘girl’ or whatever they trying to make her become it’s cringe
@lesmeieresister1125
@lesmeieresister1125 2 жыл бұрын
👏👏
@WilliamsPinch
@WilliamsPinch 2 жыл бұрын
*Sully HAS to die.* Not only does he have an in with the connect, he still has the respect of the youngers, so him and Dushane are going to be rivals. Plus killing Jamie in front of his brothers, unforgivable. Baby bro and lil girl are going to kill him if Dushane doesn’t. PLUS… I want Jaq to be TopBoy!
@tremell7559
@tremell7559 2 жыл бұрын
No disrespect, but I'm glad you are not a writer for the show...
@hez859
@hez859 2 жыл бұрын
Sully is a cry baby, fr
@tremell7559
@tremell7559 2 жыл бұрын
@@hez859 A cry baby doesn't matter when he's burying your dry eyed corpse...
@nt7594
@nt7594 2 жыл бұрын
You acc weirdo why would lil girl kill him please shush
@j.k__
@j.k__ 2 жыл бұрын
Since next season is going to be the last - part of me wants them to do sully and dushane against each other in the vein of shane vendrell and vic mackey.
@danas4065
@danas4065 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question why was Jamie forced to kill kit and how come he got killed after that
@Kipp274
@Kipp274 Жыл бұрын
Sully saying "I'm here being nice" is just so funny, because the other dude has no clue of what Sully is capable of doing.
@jbrown7
@jbrown7 2 жыл бұрын
Lose lose situation if he doesn’t kill kit Dushane kills him. But by killing him sully knew he can’t trust him
@ladysunshine171
@ladysunshine171 2 жыл бұрын
Imo Top Boy kinda lost half of their fans because of Jamie death I remember always skipping on watching Summerhouse back then but when Jamie character appeared it caught my eye because of his youth I can relate to his character in so many ways man 💔💯
@luscious718
@luscious718 2 жыл бұрын
AGREE, I watched Summerhouse after and though it was WACK. If I had watched that 1st, I would have never watched Top Boy LOL.
@rip4326
@rip4326 2 жыл бұрын
yo Jamies death still hurts me
@akumauluka831
@akumauluka831 2 жыл бұрын
Jamie had power over his brother in series 1, but not in series 2
@treywilliamson1998
@treywilliamson1998 2 жыл бұрын
Jamie’s been watching too much fast and furious
@kickflipskii
@kickflipskii 2 жыл бұрын
Stefan dropping Sully in the final season
@TDYT103
@TDYT103 2 жыл бұрын
2022 Apr 9
@keamahlaola3582
@keamahlaola3582 2 жыл бұрын
I still don’t understand why Sully shot Jamie😩😭
@Nextman916
@Nextman916 2 жыл бұрын
People trippin sayin steffan is gonna be on top…boys like 15 years old. He don’t got the sense and instinct to do that fam. Honestly even if he’s filled with vengeance, how’s he gonna take revenge? He’s going to be an blipping elephant on roads, sully and Dushane know who he is immediate. More likely season 5 will be the finale and end with some of the og’s coming to sense, some getting done up, and some continuing the life. I can see Sully end on top, Dushane is getting soft and less sharp. Him fantasizing about retirement means he’s already not there…Sully on top in my books. Not without a war with close casualties, Jaq could go.
@jasonmcardle4087
@jasonmcardle4087 Жыл бұрын
always knew it was just a matter of time till sulley popped jamie
@mildredfranklin6358
@mildredfranklin6358 2 жыл бұрын
I know something's but I want tell just stay in your Lane
@willscharnagl6909
@willscharnagl6909 2 жыл бұрын
ain’t no blurred line with sully that man is evil
@LL-ip5mm
@LL-ip5mm 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@Chimagic
@Chimagic 2 жыл бұрын
A barge on the Thames? Or a narrow boat on the canal?
@strawberrymoon7566
@strawberrymoon7566 2 жыл бұрын
Lolol I think the reviewer is American
@TADZINHOFC
@TADZINHOFC 2 жыл бұрын
this could be a gcse question
@s.r9952
@s.r9952 2 жыл бұрын
😭
@mirav5915
@mirav5915 2 жыл бұрын
I would've loved to see a better end for Jamie. Also, I think that was a bit of overkill for Sully to shoot him that many times.
@BeanieBanta
@BeanieBanta 2 жыл бұрын
Did you forget that he apparently shot Dris like 20 times? That old summerhouse tenant guy said that to Sully once. Like bro 20 times? for what? Sully is on a mad one.
@mirav5915
@mirav5915 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeanieBanta Yeah, I remember. I never liked Sully even before he killed Dris. I was rooting for Young Jamie. He was my fave. Idk if I want to watch anymore.
@BeanieBanta
@BeanieBanta 2 жыл бұрын
@@mirav5915 Nahh i really feel like Stefan is gonna step up and bring Dushane's empire to the ground. Knowing that he dabbled once on the gang life ting it's possible he'll be the next Jamie.
@mirav5915
@mirav5915 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeanieBanta I guess. I’ll watch to see if that happens.
@matthewdube7448
@matthewdube7448 2 жыл бұрын
How about Jamie in a wheelchair next season
@LL-ip5mm
@LL-ip5mm 2 жыл бұрын
Think he’s dead he got shot straight to the head
@Slime2sjsuu
@Slime2sjsuu 2 жыл бұрын
Ge got shot in the head
@martinebonita2658
@martinebonita2658 Жыл бұрын
😭😭
@Clodzzzzz
@Clodzzzzz 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope Americans can understand that this is London.😂😂😂 and London is not the way they imagine it😂😂
@ellaarrfwfegrw5141
@ellaarrfwfegrw5141 2 жыл бұрын
Shit is crazy
@WilliamsPinch
@WilliamsPinch 2 жыл бұрын
The way we imagine London is the way Sherlock Holmes intended.
@xielxgyix1569
@xielxgyix1569 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t lie it’s not that mad
@grindseason7728
@grindseason7728 2 жыл бұрын
Why’d you care what them man think? You think they give a shit about your opinions on American tv?
@LL-ip5mm
@LL-ip5mm 2 жыл бұрын
Well this isn’t exactly how London is this is a bit over exaggerated but yes London isn’t all glitz and glamor and deffo a lot of stabbings happening in London unfortunately but I wouldn’t say it’s like top boy . top boy is a drama series where they over exaggerate things for views and excitement
@Pablo-lv3ub
@Pablo-lv3ub Ай бұрын
Jamie was in the worst place possible Kill your best friend/brother Flee London be on the run ruin your brothers future or atleast make them reset it all and put them at risk Or deal with Dushane and Sully(the most feared men in london at the time) He chose to do the favour for Dushane by killing Kit but people must forgot that Sully doesn't listen to no one and still put him away
@doubleddcyril5787
@doubleddcyril5787 2 ай бұрын
Lizzie and lithe are the real top boys
@JB4C89
@JB4C89 2 жыл бұрын
Sully why?!
@repentyasharahla7632
@repentyasharahla7632 2 жыл бұрын
Sully was easily the biggest Villain of the show even though he was seeking redemption..
@fasthracing
@fasthracing 2 жыл бұрын
Great series. Cuz Init. Just off to earn some pea's with food Bruv.
@ItsKyrx.
@ItsKyrx. 2 жыл бұрын
Allow it 🤣🤣
@fasthracing
@fasthracing 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItsKyrx. Ok Fam
@ItsKyrx.
@ItsKyrx. 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@KillerDiaguR
@KillerDiaguR 2 жыл бұрын
There are no blurred lines people. Something is either right or wrong, don't let top boy or Netflix convince you otherwise 💯
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