Netrunning Breakdown For Cyberpunk Red

[@josephpurdy8390]

This is a great way to deliver paragraph long info dumps onto players. The history of the building's owners, accounting records, security footage, government permitting, employee records, blueprints, business contracts, customer records, and more. It may give players a new angle on their approach once outside the net. Its better than having to survive a hell like maze for that one treat inside of a mouse trap. A netrunner, and their associates discover a little bit of knowledge that grants them no benefit. Yet, the players found out something which is better than nothing.

[@hedeon1979]

OMG! Agent Smith Black ICE!

[@kramster20032]

thats hilarious, before or after Neo exploded him?

[@wilsonv7117]

Awesome video. You helped me think of a low stakes tutorial where ego is at stake; netrunner is friends with Heywood street rats and someone hacks a net terminal (the only one they can get to semi safely) and now it requires a fee. Guarded by a Skunk AI and a sadistic scorpion on the second level if she tries to crack it further to make some Eddie’s of her own.

[@biggestsmoke8937]

Super helpful! Didn't even know where to start with this subject. Great breakdown and loved the bit on creative ways to develop it.

[@JonJonTheWise]

Thanks for watching 🙏

[@tempusmars6272]

My DM and I loved creating our own programs. The first I got in campaign was called Mouse. It's essentially both a scout and a decoy that finds out what's in a room if pathfinder didn't and if it fights a black ice program it gives a heads up on what it is so I can be prepared

[@toddgale7663]

So... I had heard about Cyberpunk 2020 back in the 90’s when I was just becoming exposed to RPGs other than D&D, but I had very little interest or knowledge of it as a middle schooler. Now I’ve become exposed to it as an adult and through the medium of video games thanks to 2077. This has sent me down the rabbit hole of looking up every scrap of information I can and to the point that I’m wanting to find people to play with. Netrunners have the highest level of my curiosity and interest piqued. Thank you for the videos. Now I just need to hit up the Discord and see what I can find.

[@JonJonTheWise]

Welcome to the world of Cyberpunk! 👍 Thanks for watching

[@lukedoglt]

Dang, been watching your videos for about a week and this has been my favorite so far. I’m playing Red for the first time technically and I choose netrunner, I like the idea but it was daunting. But you helped me understand, now I love netrunning even more. Thank you

[@kekwphoenix]

Thanks! This helped me a lot to understand netrunners, it's hard to put everything that I've been reading together into one cohesive piece and your breakdown really helped to bring it all together.

[@JonJonTheWise]

Glad to be of help! thank you

[@jazz-a-lopium8090]

Used to love my Netrunner when I played way back in the 1990s... can't wait to get to grips with the new Red rules.

[@dusk7720]

I’m just playing cyberpunk 2020 for the first time and I’m having sooo much fun thanks for this guide!

[@JonJonTheWise]

Welcome to the game!🦾 Thanks for the support

[@kingsleymohammed9627]

Sorry to be so offtopic but does anyone know a method to log back into an Instagram account..? I was stupid forgot my account password. I love any help you can offer me.

[@mistergoodfellow5847]

Awesome video Jon! I was worried about netrunning in RED as CP2020 had an awful netrunning system, but it seems to be definitely improved. Really excited to get the full RED sourcebook when it comes out. Keep up the content!

[@JonJonTheWise]

Thank you so much! It means a lot to me. I agree it's been improved .

[@JonnoDavies1]

Thank you for everything you do for the community JonJon, you're the man.

[@JonJonTheWise]

Thank you for the kind words and support

[@sweetgoose64]

Great explanation. Going to incorporate RED netrunning into my 2020 game if someone wants to take on the role.

[@renaperdikaki5363]

My thoughts exactly! Just finished reading the CP2020 core rulebook and I am planning to run an one shot soon. CP2020 seemed really fun but I had no idea that Red even existed when I started going through the book. Initially I had the same thoughts about Netrunning, what with not wanting to split the party and all, but after looking at the Jumpstart kit I thought maybe I can switch Red's netrunning with 2020's. I do feel kinda weird though...I just finished 2020 I was kinda hoping I'd get to enjoy it more...of course we(the party) can keep playing this edition for as long as we like...but it makes sense to me that, if we find Red to be simpler and/or better we will probably switch to that...

[@JonJonTheWise]

I think implementing Red's netrunning into your 2020 game should be pretty painless. You just need to fiddle with a few numbers here and there. I highly recommend it. I find it to be a better system than the 2020 system just on the fact that it is so much more simpler. Hop in our discord if you're looking for people to bounce ideas off of. Link should be in the description

[@spudsbuchlaw]

Damn, when he said I'd be convinced...he was pretty much right.

[@Jakepearl13]

This makes me think of a possible non-combat role for cyberspace,where instead of fighting an enemy to advance,you have to solve what’s essentially an environmental puzzle. A code could be written on a file in a previous node,and you could punch it in to access something,even a whole other node,or you might have to do a block puzzle that takes a few turns

[@ed-gaming9786]

Awesome video dude, definitely going to ask our referee to use red net running rules in our 2020 game

[@JonJonTheWise]

Thank you! That's great, you guys are going to love it

[@SorryBones]

I can’t wait until Red’s full release! Most of the problems with the jumpstart is just the fact it’s a demo. I wonder what crazy Black ICE programs are gonna be in the full thing

[@JonJonTheWise]

You're gonna love it! there's all kinds of new programs and there's more depth to netrunning

[@dgrageriot]

Friendly neighborhood Netrunner here! ;) These keep getting better and better my dude!!

[@JonJonTheWise]

Love you DG. Thank you

[@dokbluejay5026]

I absolutely love how creative you can get with these programs and the competition programmers and runners can have with each other. The blue dragon black ice program gave me an idea for an EXCALIBUR attack program, that might take the form of the legendary blade and be particularly effective against these dragons.

[@abstractbybrian]

Cyberpunk Red strikes me as a RPG that would work well with Mythic GME.

[@tomcascaddan8319]

That creativity was available in Cyberpunk (2013) and Cyberpunk 2020. Look at the character Alt and the Soulkiller program.

[@themanofconstantsorrowelia1929]

Best thing i can think of for gm or player is agreeing on some type of homebrew rules.

[@jupiterrising887]

Netrunning is amazing. It's literally one of the best aspects of Cyberpunk.

[@christianrimmi2177]

Thank you sooo much for this!

[@perrottadivino]

Now looks more like in real life, when you scale privilages at equipment to be admin user and do whatever you want

[@berkayozar5970]

I generally like the gist of netrunning in Red but I am kinda bothered by the death of World Wide Web in the setting (which is something necessary to not split the party!). I wonder if there can be a middle ground where netrunning rules require the runner to be on the scene and also have access to the Net that connects the whole world.

[@JonJonTheWise]

I totally understand what you're saying and can relate . If you want to Homebrew it, maybe you can still have the WWW exist, but everyone knows you NEVER put anything important on it. Instead keep data in local server rooms in heavily guarded buildings, and force netrunners to come by of they want to get the data. One of my old jobs had an "intranet" instead of "internet". Meaning , they have their own version of thr "internet" that is accessible at work only. You could always do something like that. Granted, we were able to access the Intranet from home, you could always Homebrew a rule that says you can't

[@berkayozar5970]

@@JonJonTheWise Wow that's some sound advice, thanks!

[@JonJonTheWise]

@@berkayozar5970 no problem! Thanks for the support.

[@chaosmeisters6781]

@@JonJonTheWise That's exactly how I do it. There is a net, but like today the really important stuff is air gapped and locked away somewhere with no connection to the outside.

[@TimmyDisorder]

Cpunk 20s was totally: Okay guys, the Netrunner is up so y’all can take a bathroom/cigarette/sandwich break.

[@Kappus117]

Am I misunderstanding the Meatspace Actions vs Net Actions breakdown at around 4:20? The corebook breaks down Meat Actions vs Net Actions on page 197 and clearly states that Meat actions are real world, non-Move actions, and that on your turn you can select Net Actions OR Meat actions, and regardless of which, you can still Move. So it would therefore be impossible to take Net actions and attack with a Meat action on the same turn, no?

[@JonJonTheWise]

I don't have the book with me right now (letting a friend borrow it) but from what I remember, you can move while netrunning. You may be right.

[@Natherma985]

I love the video but I had a question, if I am GMing a game which would include a netrunner within it and I wanted to create my own programs such as attack programs to give them how would I go about that? Would I add that to the available night market? Because so far I didn’t want to confuse players so I had only picked from what was already “in the book”

[@JonJonTheWise]

What you are speaking about is called “home brew” and it is highly encouraged. Make your own programs and use existing ones as a base for ideas

[@fredricknoe3114]

When is the media role break down coming?

[@JonJonTheWise]

I promise it's the next video. I'm finishing reading up the sourcebook "live and direct". I want to do a good job 👍👍. Thank you for the support

[@fredricknoe3114]

@@JonJonTheWise Thanks, I'm just very confused about them, why would they be more useful than a rocker boy?

[@JonJonTheWise]

@@fredricknoe3114 that's exactly why I'm reading the sourcebook. I had the same questions

[@leventecsik2996]

Cyberpunk 2020 gave an Option to write your own programs, basically we Can see that the softwares have similar properties (Attack a program, netrunner, stb, Defending you, making you Invincible) And it was a Perfect way to do Downtimes, spending a Weak to create a Jesus program that revives the programs that are killed by anti-program software

[@danielramsey6141]

I wonder. Will there be a way to include the Entire party in solving these sorts of Netrunning Puzzles!

[@TimmyDisorder]

Multiclassing.

[@kishinasura1989]

Still gonna do the bathtube or chair thing

[@nocultist7050]

How about disabled netrunner that can't move from his place but can communicate remotely with the group and can connect to control node only if the team pulls of some hardware trick or grants him access from inside the infrastructure?

[@JonJonTheWise]

Unfortunately, rules as written, that is not possible. But you're welcome to homebrew that rule yourself. Also if I was playing a disabled Netrunner, I would have a sick ass hover chair like professor X. So I don't need to be remote and I'm rolling in style

[@TimmyDisorder]

Also, in 2045 “disabled” is a choice. Why does your ‘Runner not use medtech or cybertech to allow them a classic mobility? The whole “ghost in the machine” thing has been sacrificed to make the ‘Runner a role that can ride with the crew instead of apart from it. But like JJ says, homebrew to your heart’s content.

[@johnecoapollo7]

Netrunning made me feel dumb, now I somewhat understand it

[@marklerny3149]

I'm still confused on how to play as a net runner and maybe I'm just missing it. Even with you explaining as it is I still have a tough time following this class 🤦‍♀️

[@JonJonTheWise]

It's all good. Take your time and ask questions. R talsorian had a discord and I run a fan made Discord . Check one of my newer videos, in the description. There should be a link. Feel free to stop by and ask any questions. Hopefully we can help you out.

[@marklerny3149]

@@JonJonTheWise sure thanks will do

[@maxcaysey2844]

It sounds like you are still able (in Red) to hack/netrun from home , IF you are able to bypass the obscene amunt of Black Ice programs? Is that correct? Or is it not supported in the rules anymore? Also, if you wanted to, could one homebrew a solution so that you could?

[@JonJonTheWise]

You can still access the net but it's filled with self replicating black ice programs that will kill you. So it's extremely dangerous and netwatch has closed it for public use. There are localized city nets but they're very simple and most organizations do not store anything in them of importance. They would rather have a local network they can protect in one of their buildings that have guards in them.

[@maxcaysey2844]

@@JonJonTheWise Ok... sounds like its doable in theory, not so much practice... Thanks for your answer!

[@zerodohc]

With the launch of Cyberpunk 2077 I just started looking into the tabletop rpg. In a normal combat setting can you use a netrunner to use skills in combat against enemies? I assume hacking and damaging cyberware?

[@JonJonTheWise]

Your netrunner can do anything everyone else does. They're also the only ones that can hack control nodes. Hacking cyberware is more of a 2077 thing than Red (which takes place in 2045).

[@jstntlvr]

Don't be afraid to homebrew something if it is something the group wants and can agree on. I am looking to add something like cyber brain hacking in GITS to my game.

[@balcofono666]

Might sound crazy but as a long time Gibson fan the fantasy-esque part of the new netrunning rules is actually what I don't like :-(

[@porkmakineti]

Very helpful! Not-netrunner people can hack? In a very superficial way..?

[@JonJonTheWise]

Non-netrunners take 5 minutes or more to hack things with skill checks such as Electronic/Security. A Netrunner can hack the same thing in 3 seconds. So when it comes to combat, Netrunners are the only people that can efficiently hack

[@porkmakineti]

@@JonJonTheWise i get It! Thanks a lot :))

[@OldManRogers]

2020s crunch + netrunning put me off... even shadowrun hacking was somehow easier... but RED is amazing :D

[@redsol3629]

Where are the cameras at? 👁

[@darkseidomega2585]

So.. ¿it's possible to hack in a chase car scene? let's say I want to stop a moving armoured cargo hacking it, a party member it's driving near it and I do the netrunning.

[@JonJonTheWise]

Yes but it's very dangerous because if you do not safely jack out and instead are disconnected because you're past the 6m range, then all the black ice you've evaded will attack you all at once

[@darkseidomega2585]

@@JonJonTheWise OMG 🤣, thanks for the advice!, Your channel has helped me a lot.

[@JonJonTheWise]

I'm glad to be of help 🙏

[@Lilonstitch334]

Is there a community I can join to play?

[@JonJonTheWise]

Yes check the link in the description for a cyberpunk discord community. You can find some games hopefully

[@christopherwilliams6902]

Boom I'm in 300 likes.