Neurographic Art I mindfulness drawing meditation I mindfulness family

Neurographic art is a way of drawing that recreates the outer from the inner. The world is a reflection of the beliefs we hold. Beliefs are arbitrary limits on what is possible, and therefore frame the limited way in which the world is experienced.
Mindfulness drawing meditation was discovered and developed by Pavel Piskarev, a Russian psychologist and creative entrepreneur that discovered neurographic art.
Neurographic art is an artistic approach to transforming ourselves and the world. This special drawing meditation helps to link our conscience with the subconscious by activating connections between our brain cells - neurons - thus offering the key to infinite sources of energy available through our brains. This activity can be performed as a family meditation.
Almost always from the perspective of separation, believing that the perceiver and the perceived are separate rather than one and the same. In this video Mary Amini- Neuro couch demonstrates and explains Neurographic art.
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Mary Amini - Neuro Coach
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[@plaas228]

I started doing this a few days ago while recovering from covid and it really helps me to focus after 3 weeks of struggling to feel better.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback and I am happy that my video was able to help you and made you feel better. This is a simple method that can help with anxiety ,depression and Chronic pain

[@mary_amini]

So glad to hear that this helped. I wish you a speedy recovery.

[@elizabethwareing8818]

I am really unwell with covid at the moment so it’s helpful to see this has helped you to recover thank you for sharing 😊

[@patsallytilton8502]

I have drunk the “Koolaid” ! I have watched other neurographica sessions and enjoyed all of them. That said, this one and releasing anxiety session are by far my favorites. Neurographica is helping me with grief, depression, self doubt, and the feeling of hopelessness. Thank you for presenting this for those of us who need access to this remarkable therapy.

[@dianneallen583]

I am in severe chronic pain from cervical spine and shoulders losing function and fibromyalgia. Can’t take oral pain meds due to CKD. I am happy to find you. I have been coloring 6 years now and doing my first Neurographic graphic paper. Will be 80 years old soon.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Here is the second video about Neurographic art. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3bZn2N8jMunra8

[@isabellrc]

Same

[@mycreativeheart4159]

I'm 60 with FM/CSF.... I have used art for many years to assist in pain relief.... it works. I have always done art... specializing in fabric arts and quilting. I added Zentangle Inspired Arts.... ink, pencil crayons, watercolours. Recently I added paint dotting with acrylic paints. I'm really excited to try this neurographic art!❤❤❤ Best Wishes Dianne.

[@cherrycato1940]

Well done sooo awesome.

[@StarLight37773]

​@mycreativeheart4159 45 and dealing w chronic pain as well. I ordered dotting pens the other day , and literally kept falling asleep watching several dotting tutorials today lol

[@sandyrivera1827]

I have done this all my life didn’t have a name for it. I still do it especially when stressed I’ll just start to scribble lines or draw hearts circles triangles boxes on tops of boxes now I know why. Thank you

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your message

[@LeyLey41]

I'VE LOOKED AND LOOKED AT TONS OF VIDEOS TO TRY AND FIND A CLEAR AND CONCISE VIDEO THAT I COULD UNDERSTAND. ONE THAT WAS EXPLAINED BY A PROFESSIONAL. i HAVE FOUND A RUSSIAN ONE. HOWEVER, THIS IS THE ONE!!! IT IS SO TRUE, HOW I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO FIGHT MYSELF, SOMEWHAT FRUSTRATING, BUT NOT IN A BAD WAY, BUT JUST CLEANSING!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME TO PRODUCE THIS VIDEO. I SUFFER FROM MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS, MDD, & PTSD. I AM A PRODUCTIVE WOMAN, BUT STRUGGLE TO BE MIDFUL AND FOCUS! THIS IS PERFECT FOR ME!

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback

[@mary_amini]

I am so glad you found this helpful. there are more videos on my youtube channel that explain the process and I am going to do live releases on Thursdays starting December 21, 2023. I hope you can take advantage of these sessions too and ask any questions you might have.

[@wendybutler1681]

So many people would benefit from a creative outlet. This is a simple, do-able creative outlet to lose yourself in. I sew, and my dog keeps me from overdoing it because he insists I take breaks. My fibro is never happy with my sewing projects but being creative makes my soul sing!

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you so much Wendy for your reply. I am happy this video was able to help you. I hope you fibro feels better soon. My goal with this channel is to promote not only Traditional pain medicine But also explain other alternative treatments for paint

[@wendybutler1681]

Yesterday was the 39th anniversary of the flare up that got me diagnosed. Been pretty much downhill from there. Small victories are victories, nonetheless. I'm still here!

[@sallyjoligocki5011]

I have been neurographic art on my own it is addictive for me. I have neuropathy in my feet and hands. I do not have diabetes but still suffer with burning. Thank you for this video. I now know more about it.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Waww Thank you so much for your feedback I just did also video about diabetic neuropathy

[@ArtByHazel]

Thank you for confirming this. Art definitely helped heal my chronic pain compared to other healing modalities including talk therapy. It’s amazing how powerful our super conscious mind to help heal our emotional wounds, especially for us who were not aware about how trauma can affect us even in our adult lives that will manifest in physical pain/diseases.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you

[@daltonmoss2801]

When we were kids we colored. It was serious business. It is not every day that I find something that excites me but this does. Just seeing the rounded intersections sparks something in me. Thanks for presenting this!

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback more videos are on the way

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Here is the second video about Neurographic art. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3bZn2N8jMunra8

[@fiddlesticksgalore]

I just started doing this type of art because I thought it was so beautiful. However, seeing your video today (this one 😉), I learned so much more about how to actually do it. I suffer from PTSD, anxiety, depression, fibromyalgia and chronic pain. I can hardly wait to do this art properly and have it help me beyond just feeling relaxed while I’m doing it. 😊. Thank you so much for this video, it is so informative. I’m actually going to show it to my pain management doctor. I’m hoping they will share it with their other patients. Hopefully it will make a difference in their lives. Thank you again

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you so much and I would appreciate if you could share this with you I have so many of my patience finding this method beneficial you can think of it as a drawing meditation. Thank you again for your feedback

[@athenagranados8384]

It's elicited some kind of mindfulness for me. Like, as I rounded up each intersection, the creation I see on my paper gives this feeling of being able to smoothe the sharp edges; kinda like doing away with edginess by relaxing. I had been on pain relievers for years but somehow they never really gave me some relief! I am so tired at 70 getting my life off of these synthetic drugs that leave me fog-minded. So, I'm happy I came across this video and started "looping". And let's see where this takes me. Thanks for this discovery!

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback. I’m happy that I am happy you find my video helpful. I hope this technique will make you feel better

[@RENEEHOFFMAN-y8n]

It is Friday 10-13-23. The world is in a stressful place. This really helped me with my anxiety. I am not sure how I can send you a picture of what came out of my soul but it was amazing

[@AskYourPainDoc]

thank you for your feedback

[@lindee234]

Thank you. Came across this a few weeks ago. This is a lovely explanation. I doodled like this whenever going through stress and would then colour. I live with fibromyalgia, chronic pain and fatigue. Complex PTSD. driven. I am an artist now in retirement so will get into this again.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback

[@BarefootInAK]

How are you doing now? I hope well~

[@stephaniesinclair6678]

My art therapist introduced me to this video. This is amazing

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you , please also take a look at the second video which is deep dive into this

[@mary_amini]

Thank you for sharing this. This means the world to me.

[@G.G.8GG]

I've encountered people talking about this on video but this is the clearest I've seen as to what it really is. Would love to know more about what the algorithms are and how one connects or applies it to specific subjects or issues.

[@wendybutler1681]

It's kind of like tidying, putting things to right. Creating chaos and then sorting it out and conquering it with color. Calming, satisfying, meditative.

[@mary_amini]

That is very much the process Wendy. I am happy you feel inspired by the process.

[@ellie4388u]

What an apt way to describe the process of mind in it!

[@nowistime8070]

I love this woman's style 💓

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you

[@tinahalle3575]

Wow 💜

[@marcheno7431]

Thank you for sharing this wonderful technique with us!

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for watching my video

[@maxinerolka6590]

Just took a class in this art s tyle. Love it.

[@jackiegreer6483]

I just started doing this and i love it.i can tell how many mistakes i made but i am going keep trying it.😊

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Great thank you for your feedback

[@kimsue8435]

I have been doing this my hole life to deal with abuse ,,,

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback I hope that method helps you

[@MatidaJane]

I love this. Thank you.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you so much for your feedback

[@m.m.3991]

Really thankful for this video! I’ve been looking a long time for some art therapy prompt/exercise, and this is perfect! Excellent explanation, and I appreciate the information about what actually makes this process therapeutic, as other videos I had watched were more artistic. So excited to experiment with this process! Thank you both.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you so much for your great feedback, I am so happy to hear that You enjoyed our video. I am planning to do the second video with her soon. Stay tuned

[@m.m.3991]

@@AskYourPainDoc very glad to hear that. I would be interested in how Neurographic art can help those in the neurodiverse/autistic community, PTS/complex trauma, and inner child work.

[@RachelMac-l5p]

you asked how it feels: it feels scary. why would you ignore your intuition? feels nervous. I'd like to follow my intuition more, so I don't suppress myself anymore. Well that's neat. I'm now colouring the rounded bits. Thank you! Relaxing now that I've rounded it. And now I've coloured it. Good! THe questions above are real questions. and comments. Oh man these crayons are about 40 years old and making me sneeze! Found different ones, 15 years old instead haha. Well I'll find newwer ones next time. Thanks for sharing how to do this.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thanks for sharing!!

[@anasoftmarine]

Not following my intuition is what bothers me about this, every time I ignored my intuition in life I always got into deep trouble , so I personally will not ignore my intuition. Besides this, I appreciated this video very much.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

@@anasoftmarine then please follow your intuition if gives you more inner peace.

[@nadialopez8201]

great video , love this meditation

[@AskYourPainDoc]

thank you

[@stefaniecolonius4780]

💖💥

[@stefaniecolonius4780]

#RussianArtists thank you so much for inventing this in the 2000s. ❤

[@janiemiller459]

I love this!

[@missbeaussie]

I naturally started doing this recently to help with grief. It does trigger a little bit of trypophobia though.

[@pamelamanning99]

I've not seen the instruction to draw in opposition to first intuitive impulse on any other neurographic KZbins. Her explanations are the most comprehensive I've heard. Unfortunately, she was wanting to demonstrate a Release when the session ended. Since she referenced Releases several times during the recording, I was eager to see this. I will now have to do some neurographic art on my feelings of frustration! Still, I am very grateful for this video! Thank you both.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your note, just recorded the second video that she dives deep into the colors and release , it’s a wonderful deep dive into this , stay tune

[@pamelamanning99]

@@AskYourPainDoc YAY!!

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Here is the second video about Neurographic art. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3bZn2N8jMunra8

[@MelissaR784]

I am so going to try this. Think it will be a good addition to my self help tool box.

[@elizabethcarney1010]

Enjoyed video, I am a fine artist so it made me think of trying this and getting in touch with the activities in my brain!

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback, let me know how it goes

[@mary_amini]

I wonder how the experiment went?

[@pcutheuniverse-ityofideasklm]

I agree with most of this however there is a major problem with the “release” premise. Another way that our brains work is that whatever we focus on we get more of (reticular activating system). WE tell our brains which filters to use (we cannot possibly take in everything around us. That’s why we’ve never seen a navy blue Tahoe in town until we have one ourselves. Blue Tahoe’s weren’t important to us until we had one.) So when doing this it wd be extremely beneficial to focus on what you WANT in your life vs something you don’t want I want to BE HEALTHY (better still use the present tense: I am healthy) is VASTLY DIFFERENT from I release all illness (focus of health? Or focus on illness? YOU PICK). I am independently wealthy is the opposite of “Releasing poverty “ or I don’t want to be broke anymore…

[@mary_amini]

You are right that what you think about you bring about. The point of a release is to empty the garden of your mind from its weeds. In order for you to plant any seeds of intention with the subconscious first you have to establish a connection with it and be aware of it. Releases allow us to establish a connection with our inner world and to release the things we don't want. It is essentially de-weeding your garden. If you don't de-weed then the weeds will also have an influence on what grows in your subconscious mind and therefore your automatic responses to traumatic or fear-enducing events. Now if you don't plant anything after de-weeding, then the weeds grow back. This why we combine this practice with programming compositions to do exactly what you suggest. Also even with the releases, even though we begin by expressing the negative thought, the rest of the session is focused on what we DO want, ie the resolution, the alchemy of the negative feelings to something beautiful and empowering. We focus on creating peace and harmony within, and connecting to others that can bring positive energy into the situation. and in the end the coloured piece becomes something beautiful and pleasing that no one would know originated from pain or anxiety. So we are practicing focusing on the positive rather than the negative. We find the positive in a negative expression. We can't deny the existence of the negative. That will also cause disorder and dis-ease. We need to find healthy expressions for the darkness so we can bring light into all aspects of our life. There is no toxic positivity here.

[@bonnie_nelms]

Very interesting. I have fibromyalgia and would love to know more. I don’t understand how Mary can go so fast on the counterintuitive lines. If you go that fast it seems you would have to be just following where the hand wants to go…there’s not enough gap to process where it wants to go intuitively then do the opposite. Even though she has practiced this a lot, I still don’t see how it’s possible.

[@mary_amini]

The reason it looks like I am drawing the lines fast is because I allow for the line to flow a bit before i see where not to go next. I find the uncomfortable feeling in my stomach and I stick with it but over time I have learned to allow fluidity between changes in direction. So it looks like I am drawing them fast. But it is a great point. Take your time and go slow. Sometimes, to make myself more uncomfortable i use my non-dominant hand or draw the line from right to left. These intensify the experience. Hope this helps.

[@easttxskimo]

Did you sit for 3 days until you completed the rounding Some of us don't have the luxury of doing that how do we do that I'm just confused

[@mary_amini]

Well I have done more than 3 days in a row of rounding, but then again I had the luxury of a lockdown and Covid. You can still do the same thing, it would just take you longer to round and in those types of practices, you can stop after a set time. You can give yourself let's say, 30 min chunks, and don't get up until the time is done and then come back to it when you can again. I hope this helps.

[@creativeplanetjanet]

Some things in life though need backtracked so we can have a do-over in a better way, and choose a little bit different path, or build on something we've already done instead of just leaving it behind and starting over from scratch. Some things need repaired, not trashed. This is confusing. No wonder the guy is fighting making the line go where it's not "supposed" to go. How can we tell the difference between letting the line go where it wants to go and where we think it should go? It seems like you're making up rules that aren't always necessary. However, I am intrigued and want to try this. I think this could be a valuable tool to work through problems, see things differently, and do a kind of brain re-boot.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Here is the second video about Neurographic art. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3bZn2N8jMunra8

[@creativeplanetjanet]

@@AskYourPainDoc Thank you. Watched it. Eager to learn more and understand some rules which aren't making sense yet. Making these drawings seems very beneficial and fun. Plus, I now have another way to procrastinate house cleaning, decluttering, and organizing! 😁

[@mary_amini]

@@creativeplanetjanet I am glad you have a way to run away from the unpleasant things in life, but let me see if I can explain things a bit better. The way you know the difference between going with your intuition and going against it, is the discomfort you feel internally at actually going against your intuition. It just feels off and wrong. And we are doing this on purpose. We want to create an interruption in our internal communication. I hope this makes more sense. I am going to do a full video with explanations on my channel soon if this was not enough information.

[@creativeplanetjanet]

@@mary_amini I don't understand. What did I say to cause you to think I'm running away from unpleasant things? Anyway, some of the "unpleasant things" are harmful and the best thing to do is to run or just stay away from them.

[@LB-lb8kp]

I am confused about the curved neurographic lines - do you also try to draw the opposite of what you brain tells you or can you just freely draw the curved lines?

[@mary_amini]

If you draw the lines as the brain tells you, then you are repeating your conscious patterns. If you draw them "freely" or instinctively then we are repeating our subconscious patterns. We want to do neither. We want to create a pattern interrupt for both. So we want to feel where either the mind or the heart tell us to go and go anywhere but there. There is tension in the body and mind when we draw them this way. and that tension is what we are looking for. That is why in the beginning a lot of new students draw jagged lines because they change direction quickly and abruptly to gain the feeling for what the lines are like. later on you learn to surrender to this process and draw more smooth lines rather than angular ones. It is a process and it takes time. Hope this helps.

[@Fairygoblet]

I've watched the videos. Let me see if I have this right. When you first do the lines you are going against intuition, and when you are cleaning them up and coloring, you are going with your intuition. Do I have that right?

[@mary_amini]

Hi Fairy, Yes, you essentially have that right. When expressing energy in linear format we want to be intentional about it and therefore not go with the intuition allowing our subconscious to repeat its familiar patterns. And when it comes to rounding we are actually looking to harmonize our feelings and remove sharpness. We tend to get a lot of insight during this process. it is like a communication between the subconscious and the conscious mind. And the colouring is all about subconscious expression. This is the time you go with what makes the work seem pretty to you. that is the only thing that matters. That you feel good about it in the end and by surrendering to your subconscious you will be amazed at what you will find revealed to you.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

You are correct

[@kellylynnjones4426]

I'm doing my second one and I'm !!! "STUCK" !!!I Wish I could show you I'm doing a tree 🌳 Past (Roots) Present (Trunk) Future (Banches) I was trying to make it about "Joy" I'm trying to mend my broken heart and soul. trauma from when I was a very young child, up to my teens. Not sure if I should focus on the pain I feel in my heart (emotional/spiritual/brokenness) no one understands my guy thinks I should be "FIXED" ALREADY... smdh. I refuse drugs I don't need those I need Love, Happiness, Joy, Tenderness, Nurturing, Someone To Trust, Someone to run to.........

[@mary_amini]

My darling Kelly You are asking too much of just one algorithm. We use different ones for letting go and others to plan and program. To ask one piece to do it all is asking too much of yourself and the art. You are expressing opposing energies in the same work and that can make you feel as you said, stuck. I have a 12 week program for people who are trying to do as you are and so I want to tell you that it takes time and multiple pieces of work to achieve what you want. I may even say I am over 200 pieces in and still healing. So have patience, and try many algorithms. Also be careful with your language. Saying you NEED something, means you don't have it in your present moment. If you don't acknowledge it as present you won't be able to experience it. I would love to talk to you about this more if you are open. If you are please feel free to email me at [e-mail]

[@AskYourPainDoc]

I will try to get The coach to do another session with us

[@zoeanndill9444]

i did this in 6th thru 12th grades on my pee chees in school 1960's little did I know.

[@TheBeccajb]

You say draw you lines where your pen doesn't want to go. I can't figure out how to do that. I can't move from the 1st drawing of straight lines.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you so much and this may take some practice but believe me when you do it right it feels great

[@mary_amini]

Be inetentional about it. but don't be afraid to let your line flow for a bit before you choose a new direction for it. Have faith in yourself and let go.

[@eddabrandes7395]

I am drawing and painting all my life and I know how much it helps. I live with chronic pain and had severe migraines in my youth. Then, I learned about biofeedback although I never had the opportunity to test it myself. So, I think, this neurographic stuff could be something similar. Now my question: I simply don't get why in the beginning I have to draw the lines AGAINST my inner feelings. That seems wrong and I miss the explanation why this is necessary. Can you explain?

[@mary_amini]

Edda the reason you want to do it against your feelings is because you want to create a pattern interrupt in the brain and force it to do something new. Your brain likes to be energy efficient and avoid making neuro connections. When you force it to do something new, then it has to pay attention and do the work it wants to avoid. We want to create the tension to force the brain to create something new rather than reusing what it already knows, which is what it wants to do and makes you feel comfortable when it is doing it. Doing new things makes you uncomfortable because your brain can't use pre-existing patterns to predict what is to come and has to go into uncharted territory. We are trying to do this while keeping the body and mind in a state of peace and avoid fight or flight responses. I hope this helps explain it a bit.

[@eddabrandes7395]

@@mary_amini You explained it very well, thank you. I can follow this thought process and I will give it a try. ❤️

[@nikianorbeta7942]

Hi ! This is a great class, new learning for me in the journey of self reflection and healing. If the curved line represents peace, flow . I am trying this for the first time. By intentionally not following my intuitive mind to make it pretty by planning the lines out, they consequently look straighter with some rough edges, reminds me of disorganization and opposite of peace and i actually feel an energy of anger coming from the lines i created...actually looking at them makes me feel very uncomfortable. Could you please share your thoughts on this...?

[@nikianorbeta7942]

I naturally want to control the outcome and appearance.

[@nikianorbeta7942]

i have not rounded the lines yet... i guess this is the point for healing to happen in the subconscious. i will do that now ...

[@nikianorbeta7942]

ok , i watched to the end and understand. Thank you so much for making this YT interview!

[@AskYourPainDoc]

thank you for watching and all these amazing comments!

[@candigurney2936]

I don't agree with her when she says that the o ly points are man made and not in nature. Various crys😢formation are quite perfectly geometric

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts

[@denisefuentes7905]

Stop it.

[@susanburns276]

This has blown me sway! I'm near 60 and just discovered KZbin and when I came across this I remembered I would draw this way for hour's at a time as a child, I now know it's how I got through many very emotional event's of difficulty. Wow, who would have known? I'm now about to reconnect with this to aid severe osteoarthritis and I know already how enjoyable this was even 50 yrs ago! Thank you so so much 🙏👵🇦🇺

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Dear Susan, thank you for your feedback, I am happy you find this video helpful

[@pipfox7834]

@Susan Burns hi, yes as a teenager forty years ago i also was playing around a lot with these self same drawing patterns! I love how someone decides they have ''invented'' something thats been around forever, in truth :) but kudos for turning it into a ''thing''. (just don't patent it, you guys that would be truly silly)

[@pipfox7834]

@Susan Burns hi, yes as a teenager forty years ago i also was playing around a lot with these self same drawing patterns! I love how someone decides they have ''invented'' something thats been around forever, in truth :) but kudos for turning it into a ''thing''. (just don't patent it, you guys that would be truly silly)

[@plumtart]

Is it working

[@StarLight37773]

Same! I had completely forgotten that my brother and I would do these as a kid 40+ yrs ago, including the rounding and coloring. Talk about a flood of lost memories that just returned as I watched this. How tf did we know how to do this intrinsically as kids, and then to lose it altogether! Maybe now it will help w my physical pain levels.

[@tinetannies4637]

16:24 "Nature curls everything, she doesn't give us sharp edges." Crystals beg to differ

[@mary_amini]

If you change your scale, you will see even those sharp edges are made of smaller round edges. But maybe what I should have said is mother nature doesn't usually give us square edges at 90 degrees. Good point, well made.

[@darbydupree4056]

I have done two drawings but I was looping. I’m glad I found this video. I need to heal.

[@kgs2280]

This is an excellent video! I watched a couple of other videos on Neurographic drawing, but they were so “lightweight” or superficial on the mental and emotional connections while doing the work whereas this one is so much more in-depth on those levels. I’m going to really enjoy doing this technique, and look forward to seeing some health benefits. I would love to see a follow-up video where she goes into next steps, like coloring techniques and how various methods might work to re-wire the brain. Thank you for this.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

thank you for your feedback and kind comment. I am planning to do an interview with her for our second video next week, stay tuned.

[@kgs2280]

@@AskYourPainDoc Thank you. I will!

[@rochellenowik9875]

I agree that other videos I have watched have not fully explained how to draw the lines and what they mean in the process. I have watched crafters on KZbin and they are more concerned with creating art rather than healing themselves. I look forward to the follow-up video where Mary instructs on a focus area of our piece. I found it very interesting to avoid just coloring one section. I'd like to hear more about that.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Here is the second video about Neurographic art. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3bZn2N8jMunra8

[@cynthiacupler8005]

I have PTSD, and chronic depression, I'm going to do this kind of Artwork.

[@mary_amini]

I hope you have found the process helpful in some way. I would love to hear about your experience with it.

[@cynthiacupler8005]

@@mary_amini Hi Mary, I don't draw the Neurographic way ,I get a standard ended card, I start drawing,real tiny things, like people, animals ,and all kinds of cool patterns,it helps me to feel really good, and I did 30 of these art- works,then I plan on glueing them to a folding screen, which will take a while to do,🥰

[@missbeaussie]

How did it go?

[@Nanabanana219]

A reminder to whoever is watching this that you did not cause your illnesses or your pain. I know how hard you are trying, and that you wouldn't choose to feel like this. "Manifestation" is absolute rubbish. This person's interpretation of this method is clearly not evidence based at all. I was trying to find an explanation of this practice that actually explains the science behind it, but unfortunately this is not it. Mindfulness helps some people, and that's what this is. If it helps, that's wonderful, but please remember that chronic and mental illnesses are not your fault. We still don't fully understand the human body and the many conditions people suffer. We need science and thorough reputable research. Not being told we're not trying hard enough, and not manifesting the right things.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

You are absolutely right and you mentioned a point that chronic pain and chronic illness is something very complicated, it’s a very multifaceted issue and in order to help someone or heal someone you need to address it and attack it from multiple angles. One of the things that I try to explore in my channel is to show that they are multiple type of treatments available that may not be the right treatment for each patient

[@mary_amini]

Hi Anne I think you misunderstood my practice of this art. You are absolutely right, contracted pain and trauma is not your fault, but no one has the power to heal you but you. This practice allows you to be present with your emotional pain and express it without using words. this allows for a somatic release of the body as well as acknowledgement of the negative emotions. Continued practice can help with healing deep emotional trauma, which can in some cases manifest in physical ways as well. I would be happy to share scientific articles being published about Neurographica specifically, but you are right I don't have scientific research on my method. I only have the anecdotal evidence of the students I have worked with. I did not suggest trying hard to push you pain away, I am suggesting a pleasant and accessible way to deal with dark emotional feelings. I hope this clarifies things

[@wendyapple7060]

I’m a certified Neurographica instructor (over a year of courses) and this is the best explanation I’ve EVER heard!

[@AskYourPainDoc]

thank you so much for your feedback. Feel free to share this video if have anything to add or if you have any questions, please let me know

[@sheryle3476]

Hi, how does one get certified as an instructor? I am in australia

[@sydneybristo22]

I think this woman is actually hurting many patients in her general thoughts that srt therapy can treat pain. It imo could help a patient cope with their pain but it is not going to actually do much for their actual pain for patients with severe chronic pain. I hate when they bring up fibromyalgia bc they do NOT understand it. Just because they are to stupid to do the research to see the clinical findings and very likely biomarkers that they believe they found ( they are still in the process of testing more double blind patients DNA to make sure these are good markers for everyone before they say definitely yes these are the markers). That is like saying you feel the wind but it is made up in your mind and you need to stop imagining feeling the wind. Many doctors use fms as a dx when they just don't know what exactly is going on. I feel like to say to these patients it is in your mind is exceedingly terrible and does REAL HARM as many many severe chronic pain patients esp fms patients end up committing suicide or at minimum considering it when it is something t g eyvwould never ever wish to do but they feel like they have nobother choice because their pain is completely unmanaged at any quality of daily life and people like this lady and drs are saying it is in your head. I support art therapy but only in conjunction with proper effective medical pain management. We don't let our animals suffer so we shouldn't let humans suffer. People including doctors often think that we know everything and that we are so advanced etc. Well to be honest we are likely not as advanced as everyone may think. We still have to change treatments because we find out the treatments we even are still doing in many countries are actually having terrible consequences. Example some joint implants were thought to be the the very best but later we have found they are poisoning patients with cobalt. We must be open to the thought that we might need to consider other techniques and our current treatments might be wrong.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

In this channel we discuss about multi modal treatment from traditional to alternate methods, I believe everyone is different and there is not one way to treat each condition

[@mary_amini]

My dear friend, I don't believe I made the assertion you suggest I did. I did not ever suggest replacing pain management medication with art therapy as a blanket treatment. That would, as you put it, be irresponsible. However, coming from a medical background, I understand that at the end of the day all that we experience is our own nervous system, which only has two modes. Chronic stress and fear, will create physical manifestations in the body such as autoimmune diseases and pain manifestation that seems to have no physical origin. Many of our doctors have just prescribed pharmaceutical solutions that have done more harm than good. Chronic illnesses resulting in pain such as fibromyalgia have both mental and physical roots and both need to be addressed for the patient to experience healing and not just temporary pain alleviation at any cost. I never suggested that neuroart is a cure for fibromyalgia, I said I have had clients with the disorder that have reported improvement from the use of this method. I personally believe in a holistic approach in life and in medicine. I hope this clarifies my position for you a bit more. My utter stupidity notwithstanding.

[@MaTTheWish]

What?

[@darbydupree4056]

I have done two drawings but I was looping. I’m glad I found this video. I need to heal.

[@hazel552]

I am 65 and my grandma taught me to "draw touching pebbles" we then coloured in the spaces in the same pencil then coloured the,pebbles this was 60 years ago it just didn't have a name We always did it when I talked about my brain hurting many years later I was diagnosed with bipolar Who knew grandma's were so wise Thank you for giving this a name and explaining how it has been helping me for 60 years All those new to this please share it with friends who you know need it even if they don't know it yet I used to do this in pencil and coloured pencils and still do There were no sharpies then

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Same Old school design but now we understand why some of the old school method works.

[@newgabe09]

In other vids the lovely Mary Amini describes that what she does is based on a stricter form called 'neurographica' . She calls what she does here Neurographic Art to differentiate from that, Just be aware that there's also a lot of doodly/freeform 'Neurographic Art' vids around on KZbin, which don't have the structure, psychological intention and results of either what Mary is doing, or the original Neurographica.. Don't confuse it with eg doodly vids that say 'colour each space inside the lines a different colour'' or 'put a bunch of polka dots or stripes in' without rounding.. etc.. and enjoy whatever you do :)

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you

[@ingridfong-daley5899]

It feels like stretching to say someone 'invented' this technique... I always feel like the terminology should be 'popularized' or maybe even 'discovered', but tons of people have used this very activity for decades with the same general purpose in mind. it's nice to know there's terminology around it now tho--thank you for an enlightening video. :) My childhood journals/notebooks are full of this stuff, much of it penmanship/letter-based embellishments, but after a TBI in 2017 they took a radically deeper turn. I appreciate having a vocabulary for talking about it.

[@Lenastar23]

i know what you are refering to but were you also rounding and setting intentions? i think that is what they are referring to. it is the rules that differentiate it- rules that speak the to brain in a certain way that can actually be captured on brain imaging. EDIT- I've actually looked into it- this video really does not even give the basics- it's far more indepth.

[@charweb3623]

I have neuropathy from chemo of hands and feet for six years now numb and painful can it help❤

[@AskYourPainDoc]

I hope so

[@mary_amini]

The very least it can do is allow you to express your frustration at being in pain all the time and alleviating your emotional state so you have more capacity for physical pain tolerance. Pain doesn't just disturb our body, it also disturbs your mind. By being able to express your internal turmoil and releasing in and in the process creating something beautiful out of it, you will have more of an easy time and more capacity for physical tolerance of pain. It can also be quite entertaining. 😁

[@joshuaglaude1549]

Someone told me about this to help with chronic pain, or PTSD or anxiety. I have osteoarthritis in my back knees and hands. PTSD from combat and really bad anxiety and depression. Thought this might help. I think it would just piss me off. No offense if it helps you. Do what helps. This just not for me I think. Just too chaotic and nothing looks right.

[@mary_amini]

That might be part of your challenge. The fact that things need to "look right" suggests an attachment to control that can be a coping mechanism. Perfectionism is one of the patterns we have been taught in our society that is based on external control. The world isn't from the outside in and in this world there is more chaos than order. Nothing is perfect in the universe, so attachment to perfectionism is one of the ways we create imbalance in our mental states that lead to dis-ease in the mind and body. I don't know if you ever tried this process and I am not trying to persuade you to do it. Having said that, what you expressed is called resistance to rounding, or resistance in general. Your ego identity is recognizing that this is a pattern interrupter and feels it will not be in control and therefore rejects it. In our groups, people with these expressions actually would benefit greatly from this practice. Wishing you well always

[@LavenderLori406]

How I wish you would not have the creepy music in the background cuz otherwise it was really interesting.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

🤣

[@user-dn6nb5ku9b]

She can’t show one third of exercise and not the rest ,can do damage. Wrong. Too many lines. She didn’t tell how to finish exercise

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your comments, obviously she was not able to go through the whole process of Neurographic art , I would suggest you see our new video that deep dive into this , She also has a course that she does one to one training that I would definitely recommend

[@NeurographicsPiskarev]

@@AskYourPainDoc Sorry, but your guest is not a certified Instructor. This is not only copyright infringement, but also negligence towards people. We appreciate your interest in our method, and your intention to help people. But it is sad when a person without competence and without knowledge promotes themselves in this way. This is a serious practice, and such interpretations can harm people :(

[@mary_amini]

@@NeurographicsPiskarev you are speaking about teaching neurographica which is a type of Neurographic art. I am inspired by Neurographica and make the proper instructions to anyone who wants to learn Neurographica to the source but I don’t teach Neurographica. I teach Neurographic art and therefore your claim is moot. Your judgment and attempt at gate keeping of knowledge that can help many people is a testament to who you truly are. Clearly we are very different people. You like to look at people’s certification and judge them without personal knowledge regarding their expertise, while I care about empowering people with Knowledge that can help better their lives without judgement, gate keeping, or fear mongering.

[@LeyLey41]

I have so much respect for Mary Amini & what a gift she has in her field! Thank you for bringing her to us!

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback, she is truly amazing

[@juliewilson1232]

This is what I was looking for but didn't know it! I started this with a headache by the time I was done it was gone. I felt so relaxed. Please create additional follow ups!

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback more videos are on the way

[@bjgoels]

This is the most understandable explanation I have heard of this process. Thank you. I had tried it before with someone else but was simply mimicking what the facilitator did without understanding what I was doing or why.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback, and thank you for watching the video 👍🙏

[@juliearcand2358]

This is actually very helpful!! I suffer from CPTSD and major depression. It does feel difficult initially. I'm so excited to try this

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback I’m happy that this simple technique is able to help you I hope you feel better

[@palamirtammarimuthu1752]

Interesting 🤔 4/8/24

[@salutsoleil3682]

Awesome video! I have severe anxiety as I move into retirement. This video could not have come into my life at a better time! ❤

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback

[@anabeave4713]

Would you do an episode on how to release like she mentioned towards the end of the video?

[@mary_amini]

I am going to start doing releases live on KZbin staring Dec 21. You are more than welcome to come and join me anytime you like.

[@tjfitzpatrick1957]

I really enjoyed this video. I like that there were explanations of the technique details with connection's to brain and thought process.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback, actually I found it very interesting for me that drawing these lines can be so relaxing

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Here is the second video about Neurographic art. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3bZn2N8jMunra8

[@fowalmorai5291]

Thank you very much for the information

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for watching this video

[@wanderingIvy67]

My question is what doing this has to do with reducing fibromyalgia pain. When i sit to do any kind of art my pain is too much to sit there and relax. Any suggestions?

[@suzizfun]

In a word, a visual exercise in …Mindfulness! I enjoyed this whole explanation of this technique. Thanks so much!

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you so much for your feedback, I’m glad that you enjoyed it

[@reginajackson8750]

What a terrific introduction to a fascinating art and therapy form. Might you provide the spelling of Mary’s last name?

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback, Mary Amini, her contact information is in video description

[@FiroozehBowden]

The Instagram link does not work

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Trying to contact her through her website

[@barbhayes5613]

I just started looking at Neurographica and am very intrigued by the possibilities as a meditation alternative when people say their mind is to busy (or ‘buzzy’) to meditate. Thank you for sharing this session - each article I read or video I watch takes me to another level. Cheers

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback , working on another video re Neurographic art

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Here is the second video about Neurographic art. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3bZn2N8jMunra8

[@Charmpake]

This is a very good explanation of neurographic art, thank you ❤️🇨🇦❤️

[@Food4CriticalThought]

I always call art “my meditation”.

[@grienecheez]

i never knew this was called so. I learned a lot of your procesexplanation and i know this is true because i felt it myself

[@AskYourPainDoc]

thank you for your feedback and I am happy you enjoyed my video.

[@alalohwhydee]

Would doing this exact same process with your "sub-dominant" hand/arm have any advantageous or dis-advantageous effects?

[@nikianorbeta7942]

good question

[@AskYourPainDoc]

I do not believe there is any advantageous or dis-advantageous, thank you for watching my video

[@pnwforesthermit4506]

Since I’ve been doing this since the mid 80’s I feel that the Russian doctor has just put a fancy name to the feeling of entering into ‘flow’ when doing something you love

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Absolutely! I believe he discovered that a simple pathway that could help us to focus and run away from anxiety and deep depression

[@candacejones3352]

This is bizzare. A few yearago I began to have chronic pain. Over time I began doodling shapes, patterns, etc on scrap paper. I then began to draw on graph paper. I draw everyday, a few hours a day. I was curious as to why I suddenly began to draw for hours at a time. I get great satisfaction and my pain is lowered. It seems as if my subconscious mind lead me to this. It has almost become an addiction. I do not think I could go a day without drawing. Some of them are pretty good. I draw geometric shapes, mandalas, surreal psychadelic worlds. It works! It does not take all my pain away, but it definitely diverts my pain a few hours a day. My body needed an outlet and found one. Amazing. Thank You for explaining.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback

[@arlenemurphy804]

When I do free motion quilting, I find this so relaxing too. I find this so interesting. Thank you for sharing.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thanks for watching

[@DudeALynn]

This art really works for overcoming all kinds of distress and types of suffering! Amazing how well it works and you get a beautiful piece of art as a bonus!

[@mary_amini]

It is art with purpose.

[@bine9526]

Vielen Dank für dieses Video. Ich habe nicht alles verstanden, aber es ist so wunderbar beschrieben worden. Stimmt es dass man nicht eine Schleife zeichnen soll weil sie zurück geht statt vorwärts zu kommen? Ich habe es so verstanden. Ich habe viele Ängste und eine chronische Krankheit und wäre froh, wenn ich besser damit umgehen könnte. Ich habe auch schon neurographische Bilder gemacht, aber ohne sehr viel Wissen. Ich habe sowieso viel Geduld und bin eher ein langsamer bedachter Typ, bis jetzt. Darum gibt mir dieses meditative Runden der Linien Ruhe. So viel merke ich zumindest. Danke nochmals. ♥Bine

[@brandibobandi]

@29:00 that whole section choked me up explaining the feeling and resolution!

[@mary_amini]

I'm so glad it resonated with you.

[@vanessavicente3933]

25:38 That's quite interesting.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you

[@EndlessSims3]

I need a therapist of Art therapy with pain degenerating disc deases FMS, COPD, osteoarthritis so much pain in my joints and muscles. But can not pay only through Medicare Advantage Dule Plan, I live in Spokane Washington do you know any that is paid through my insurance plans?

[@AskYourPainDoc]

no, to be honest with you

[@pipfox7834]

not sure about Pavel being the discoverer of this type of art, LOL. I remember doing this stuff as a teenager in the mid seventies with pencil and pen. Most of my friends were doing similar things, covering our school books with these types of patterns. Especially if the class was rather dull!

[@jcepri]

He can fantasize.

[@anasoftmarine]

There nothing new under the sun

[@spinnettdesigns]

I love this art and have been doing it for a while but your video was really helpful because she explained the details of the process and intention, so well. Thank you so much! I have already sent this to many friends.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you so much for your feedback this is such a simple technique that can help many

[@marlenebaldassarre5445]

Thank you so much! So wonderful that I stumbled on this very excellent video.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you so much for your feedback. I’m planning to do the second video which she is going to talk about more details of lines and perhaps a discussion of colors. Stay tuned

[@artworld9799]

Thanks lot for great sharing!! I love neurographic art🎨 💗❤💖💚💮💮🐇🦌☘️🐦

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for the feedback

[@lindseysartclasses]

Absolutely fascinating. I am hooked. I will definitely be applying this method to my art classes. I’m sure my students would find this so therapeutic, especially when studying for their exams. So relaxing just watching and I am very excited to try this out. Thank you so much for such an informative and inspiring video.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for watching this video and my channel

[@EffieComfort]

Therapeutic aspects if art are not confined to a style of expression. This method is just as affective as others. The degree of benefits hinges on various factors.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for your feedback

[@teresawyatt4391]

I have severe anxiety depression and chronic back pain I no longer take opioids for over 12 years now so I needed to find positive ways to deal with pain and stess this has helped me so so much

[@AskYourPainDoc]

I am happy to hear that , thank you for your feedback

[@jcepri]

How does this help with chronic pain?

[@AskYourPainDoc]

In my opinion the mechanism of this technique is meditation and distraction I believe there is a big component of anxiety and depression due to chronic pain and these technique would benefit this

[@mary_amini]

Pain tolerance is not just a physical matter. It also affects your mind and your mood. If you find a way to release the way you feel about being in pain it increases you ability to tolerate physical pain as your emotional cup is not constantly full.

[@ruthfeiertag]

That was a intriguing video and explanation of how neurographic drawing can help people. Ms. Amini kept using the term algorithm. I understand the concept as it applies to math, but not how it pertains to this type of drawing. Would you please give us a definition? Thank you.

[@mary_amini]

Hi Ruth, When using Neurographic art, we use a certain number of steps in specific sequences, much like you would for a mathematical equation. So the recipe to each piece of art, the intention behind it and the way it is communication on paper is called the algorithm. However unlike the mathematical algorithm, although everyone follows the same steps, no two people ever get the same expression. Let me know if this makes it a bit more clear for you

[@ruthfeiertag]

@@mary_amini Yes; thank you!

[@Lily-2019]

💥This may be why people feel calm and comfortable when living in a round house with no square rooms at all. - I've seen people plan to build their homes this way.... most likely without realizing the depth of why they chose a round home in the first place. Makes complete sense! I loved this video!! THANKYOU ♥ I learned a lot.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you for the feedback! I m glad you liked this video

[@ritawashere5787]

So glad this video popped up. I just subscribed & shared this video on Pinterest.

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Thank you

[@KingaBee222]

Thank you 🦋🦋🦋 This will be my new thing after crocheting big blankets, macrame planthangers ans paint pouring. I also love my coloring books. Yeey, can't wait for the morning, I'm going on a canvas directly 💙

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Wonderful!

[@rrahbit]

if i start one and then the phone rings and i need to pick up the grandaughter .. i have to stop ? how can i finish ?

[@AskYourPainDoc]

Yes you can finish later

[@moonsofourmother2815]

Hi. I loved this video. I was wondering if You did a follow up showing a release process? Thank You both 🙏🏾

[@AskYourPainDoc]

I will thank you