Neutral Forces - Command and Conquer - Tiberium Lore

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Jethild

Jethild

Күн бұрын

Taking a look at some of the neutral forces and buildings seen throughout the Command and Conquer Tiberium timeline. Chapters and/or corrections posted below.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:30 Civilians and Rogue Forces
09:12 Cult of Mortimer
12:16 Neutral Tech Buildings
30:08 Crates
Footage and some images and/or concept art are from the Command and Conquer video game series which is the property of Electronic Arts. Other images and art might be used from other sources and all rights to those belong to their respective authors. Video animations, voiced dialogue and editing are created by myself.
Music used:
On the Prowl (C&C Remastered) - Frank Klepacki
Drone (C&C Remastered) - Frank Klepacki
What Lurks (C&C TS) - Frank Klepacki and Jarrid Mendelson
Research Initiative (C&C3 TW) - Steve Jablonsky
Rain in the Night 2 (C&C TS:FS) - Frank Klepacki
Mad Rap (C&C TS) - Frank Klepacki and Jarrid Mendelson
Recon (C&C Remastered) - Frank Klepacki
Intelligence (C&C3 TW) - Steve Jablonsky
Mutants (C&C TS) - Frank Klepacki and Jarrid Mendelson
Heroism (C&C TS) - Frank Klepacki and Jarrid Mendelson
Defense Line (C&C3 TW) - Steve Jablonsky
Gathering Intel (C&C3 TW) - Steve Jablonsky
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Пікірлер: 279
@Jethild
@Jethild 11 ай бұрын
In order to have an engineer capture the Civilian Armory and Hospital in Tiberian Sun, you will first have to go into the game's rules.ini file and change a few parameters. I recommend watching this short video by Sven van der Plank on exactly how to edit the file and make those tech structures capturable kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKbWcoaQnruKjpY
@kobra6660
@kobra6660 11 ай бұрын
One thing I like about command and conquer 3 and kanes wrath is the mutants are more dangerous than people think if you use them right
@nickygames8245
@nickygames8245 11 ай бұрын
really useful!
@canon07
@canon07 11 ай бұрын
There is one book where they have a tiberum war I don't know whether that a good story and also they have a pre post tiberum war c&c series.
@TricksterPoi
@TricksterPoi 11 ай бұрын
@@kobra6660 It's sad their role is completely reduced. Then again they lost 2 great representatives but still it's a good excuse to make them... Forgotten.
@RadicalEdward2
@RadicalEdward2 10 ай бұрын
If there’s ever a remaster, they need to just enable the features by default.
@MrFirecam
@MrFirecam 11 ай бұрын
Seeing mutans using an old GDI base and producing mammoth tank was an awesome moment for me when i played Tiberian sun.
@trueredpanda1538
@trueredpanda1538 10 ай бұрын
Ooh yeah! I wish devs did get enough time to finish tiberium wars to exactly what they wanted, we would have the forgotten as a faction even. I feel like they did get forgotten by the devs, their prime time is tiberium sun indeed. Shame one can't play them.
@SeventeenGhost
@SeventeenGhost 11 ай бұрын
"Ok, the Tacitus is hidden in one of these three temples. We will search them as it goes: Temple of Time, Temple of Thunder, and finally, Temple of the Tacitus. Any questions?"
@chaosdude0878
@chaosdude0878 11 ай бұрын
"Uhhh sir how about we just go to the temple that has tacitus in the name?"
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 10 ай бұрын
@@chaosdude0878 "Are you nuts, soldier!? There's a cult of Tiberium worshipping nutjobs there!" "But they're not even Nod level nuts, sir..." "Who cares, we're taking the scenic route!"
@Truerussiantigershark
@Truerussiantigershark 14 күн бұрын
@@chaosdude0878 "you’re speaking crazy talk here"
@kobra6660
@kobra6660 11 ай бұрын
Everyone underestimate the mutant faction if you combine them with an apc or hammerhead of a group of 6 they can do serious damage to anything
@TrensGemini
@TrensGemini 11 ай бұрын
It's a point of "Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances" you need at least 6 players to defeat one mutant base and gain control of The Forgotten Fortress/Tacitus.
@DeadManSinging1
@DeadManSinging1 11 ай бұрын
@@TrensGemini Tiberium Alliances can go to hell - But the Forgotten mod is awesome
@elcek6384
@elcek6384 11 ай бұрын
It’s a legit stray in skirmishes. Similar to the infamous zone raider / hammerhead rush
@firen777
@firen777 11 ай бұрын
Masterleaf be like
@notarealfirstnamenotareall746
@notarealfirstnamenotareall746 10 ай бұрын
​@@firen777Did you see the last tournament he was in? Dude played wacky every single game. The engineer/emp combo he went for on the first MCV move had me so excited to see if it would work.
@marltonmanks9891
@marltonmanks9891 11 ай бұрын
I'm running a post apocalyptic tabletop that takes place 10 years after the second tiberium war. The party is based in yellow zone around the houston area. A couple of the players are ex-GDI but have no real affiliation with the major factions. Instead they are just trying to survive while dealing with local warlords, cannibal gangs, scavengers and wild animals (both normal and mutated)
@chaosschimaer
@chaosschimaer 11 ай бұрын
Wich tabletop System are you using? Sounds pretty awesome!
@marltonmanks9891
@marltonmanks9891 11 ай бұрын
@@chaosschimaer modified d20 modern rules mixed with gaslands for vehicle combat. My players seem to enjoy it
@SgtCandy
@SgtCandy 11 ай бұрын
@@chaosschimaer the Twilight 2000 rules (both old and reboot) would also work really well with some modifications since it's a very similar semi-apocalyptic setting to C&C
@marltonmanks9891
@marltonmanks9891 11 ай бұрын
@@SgtCandy I like what I'm seeing of it so far. I think after i end the first chapter i might swap over to this. Depends on how difficult it is to create setting specific stuff that doesnt exist in the core rules. Which edition would you recommend?
@SgtCandy
@SgtCandy 11 ай бұрын
@marltonmanks9891 the reboot is the one I actually have, with a fan-made module for the PNW that uses the older rules. Unfortunately that's all I can give since I've yet to find a group to play wargames over D&D so I can do more than read the content/rules
@MrLense
@MrLense 11 ай бұрын
Damn I never knew I wanted a full deep dive into the tech buildings in game.
@channel_lurker
@channel_lurker 11 ай бұрын
i always knew ^^ ever since i saw the tech structures in c&c3 ive wanted too see a gaint fortress made compleetly out of them :D maybe armed by mutants aswell
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 11 ай бұрын
Me too.
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 11 ай бұрын
​@@channel_lurker I wanted to see a few "hostile Mutant Hovels" spread out around Red Zone maps, with only a couple of Marauders guarding it, but they have a trigger that they begin training new Marauders as soon as they see a single player unit, and then they start sending them to attack said player.
@channel_lurker
@channel_lurker 11 ай бұрын
@@MrDibara i second that. mutants are awsome ^^ wasnt there a mod for kanes wrath that added them as a full faction?
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 11 ай бұрын
@@channel_lurker I remember a mod for vanilla Tiberium Wars, "The Forgotten". But there's also the Tiberian Essence mod, which adds a different variation of the Forgotten faction. Don't know any other mods aside from these two, I would have to look it up more.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte 11 ай бұрын
I really want to see the game designers of Tiberium Dawn and Tiberium Wars try to explain how they're supposed to stack such containers... and how goods inside are packed😅
@commandoepsilon4664
@commandoepsilon4664 11 ай бұрын
Considering they can contain entire tanks, I think it may be a TARDIS situation.
@Nirual86
@Nirual86 11 ай бұрын
The TW ones can probably be stacked reasonably well tbh but yeah its more rule of cool / easy to spot than practical.
@HippieInHeart
@HippieInHeart 10 ай бұрын
True, lol. Maybe the companies in the c&c universe created them for some sort of joke-competition-thing, like "make the most impractical container you can think of within a week" lmao
@montypython5521
@montypython5521 10 ай бұрын
you put one upside-down in-between 2 other ones
@BoisegangGaming
@BoisegangGaming 11 ай бұрын
25:45 the mental image of a bunch of nod troopers running down and then just standing in a subway car while trying to figure out which station to get off at is hilarious and someone needs to make an animation of that.
@Emberheart_
@Emberheart_ 11 ай бұрын
I remember the joy of finding C&C1 units in Tiberian Sun crates.
@kbotno1789
@kbotno1789 11 ай бұрын
Was that a mod?
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think that's a mod...
@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowww
@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowww 11 ай бұрын
Unless its the X66 Mammoth Tank. That one was in Tiberium Sun aswell.
@jimineedles
@jimineedles 10 ай бұрын
@@louievelayo4100there was a small chance of getting a Mammoth Mk1
@starwind8577
@starwind8577 10 ай бұрын
@@kbotno1789 In Tiberian Sun, there's a very rare chance of you getting the X-66 Mammoth Tank from the first war in a crate.
@somehowstillhere8766
@somehowstillhere8766 11 ай бұрын
"All I know is my gut says, maybe." - The Neutral Motto
@FortressLordJP193
@FortressLordJP193 11 ай бұрын
Tell my wife I said... "Hello"
@Digimon575
@Digimon575 11 ай бұрын
@@FortressLordJP193 "I have no strong feelings one way or the other"
@frostburn3736
@frostburn3736 11 ай бұрын
Ok, I didn't expect this topic which just proves it's importance: _"In the middle of the war those who get caught in the crossfire or are just standing on the sidelines might as well not exists at all... becuase nobody notices them if not necessary."_
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 11 ай бұрын
Sad truth about being considered collateral...
@Dr.LightMarker5613
@Dr.LightMarker5613 11 ай бұрын
"The Marauders were stealthy while standing in the Tiberium Field" _waves gun around madly while shouting ×12_
@csbr75
@csbr75 11 ай бұрын
Ah yes, Switzerland Forces
@The_whales
@The_whales 11 ай бұрын
The neutral forces benefit from all that fighting going on with those gold reserves
@leeboy26
@leeboy26 11 ай бұрын
Useful to have in close quarters fighting with their knives of much utility.
@canon07
@canon07 11 ай бұрын
Lol the south America be like:
@chaosdude0878
@chaosdude0878 11 ай бұрын
​@@leeboy26"I have 3000 different ways of ending your bodily functions with my utility knife, start choosing"
@adelbertschulz8049
@adelbertschulz8049 10 ай бұрын
"Switzerland has no army, Switzerland is an army!" ⛑
@ArchCone
@ArchCone 11 ай бұрын
Amazing work as always Jethild keeping Command and conquer alive.
@WolfeSaber9933
@WolfeSaber9933 11 ай бұрын
Feels like Jethild is the reason C&C lore is still alive.
@trevynlane8094
@trevynlane8094 11 ай бұрын
Reinforcement bays and Neutral Tiberium Silos have build radius around them, so they can be useful even after the initial use.
@404BYTE
@404BYTE 11 ай бұрын
Cult of Mortimer were absolutely bizarre mission to have
@Trencher1375
@Trencher1375 11 ай бұрын
While it might be difficult to find new things to talk about in the command and conquer tiberium universe, the details you bring and things you focus on are some of the most interesting Command and Conquer videos out there.
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 11 ай бұрын
Bruh, absolutelly LOVED this topic! And you're right! There WAS missing a "hostile-to-all" neutral faction in C&C 3! Which is crazy, considering it could've been fixed by the Kane's Wrath expansion! Y'know the initial model and sprite for the Nod Militia? With the urban getup and small SMG machine gun? Well, it got replaced by the iconic and traditional Nod soldier model in Kane's Wrath. _Why not then reuse the Militia's old model, rename it as "Insurgent" or something and have it be present around many Yellow Zone maps, attacking all factions that came near it?_ Hell, even have EMP Control Centers initially under the control of these "Insurgents"! Blasting any player's buildings and vehicles within the structure's radius, while also guarded by a couple of their troops. This would've added another layer of challenge for all players looking to acquire these structures, or expanding their base or simply scouting around with their vehicles. Also, since the Tiberium Spikes and Neutral Silos were controlled by private corporations, why not design a "reskin" for the GDI Infantryman and Missile Squad to represent "Mercenaries", then place a sizeable group of them around these structures? If *private corporations* own these buildings, it stands to reason they would hire well trained mercenaries to *protect* these facilities from being captured or destroyed by anyone. (GDI, Nod or _especially_ aliens) Then there's the Red Zone maps. Needless to say, the Mutants *should have* been incredibly numerous in these areas. Not to mention, hostile to everybody. Hovels located on the border of the maps aside, there should've been hostile Hovels in the more central parts of these Red Zone maps, with a couple Marauders around it that attack any player. Maybe also add a mechanic where the hostile Hovels begin training more Marauders from time to time, starting as soon as they spot a player unit, again adding to the challenge. Whether you are expanding your base or just scouting around, there's a risk you can trigger a "Mutant assembly" as they try to defend their territory, not ending until you either capture or (more easily) destroy these hostile Hovels. _But I'm sure I'm not alone when I say the one thing we missed the most as a "neutral enemy" was the Tiberium fauna._ :/ Tib Fiends, Floaters, Veinhole Monsters and specially Viceroids, which I did not like being turned into crab-like creatures in C&C 3, that should've been a new addition to the Tiberium fauna instead of a replacement! You could have Viceroids and maybe a couple of Tib Fiends appear in Yellow Zone maps, just scouting around, spawning occasionally and attacking everything, then have the FULL fauna in the Red Zone maps, increasing even further the challenge and selling home to the player just how trully inospitable to human life these areas really are. Man, I know a lot of mods out there bring back a lot of the old Westwood/Tiberian Sun flair to C&C 3, but I wonder if any of them thought to implement just _these_ kinds of additions. They would already be a huge complement to the base games of Tiberium Wars and Kane's Wrath and I think a lot of us would've actually enjoyed it!
@mateuszslawinski1990
@mateuszslawinski1990 11 ай бұрын
Reminds me one option from Tib Sun skirmish mode: Tiberian fauna. Can be dangerous enough to not only slow down player's advancments, but also steamroll (usually enemy AI).
@joeyoung9596
@joeyoung9596 11 ай бұрын
I wished there was a C&C 3 Remake in the vein of Westwood or Petroglyph Games. There's so much things I still questioned to this day, like the lack of The Forgotten's story, Red Zone during the 3rd Tiberium War before the Scin's arrival on Earth, the lack of CGI cutscenes that we used to see in Tiberian Dawn and TIberian Sun, Firestorm wheatear and more, including seeing naval units and other aircraft transport units like the Kodiak.
@Darthmessiah66
@Darthmessiah66 11 ай бұрын
could theoredically happen with Petroglyth at the helm since alot of devs from westwood work at petroglyth today i'm pretty sure. if they remastere tiberian sun and red alert 2 along with their sperate expansions and release them in one package, like they did the first games, a redoing of C&C 3 could happen after, if EA greenlights it since they still own the IP of C&C.
@joeyoung9596
@joeyoung9596 11 ай бұрын
@@Darthmessiah66 i totally agree. I guess we have to wait a bit longer before it happens. :)
@brothers_of_nod
@brothers_of_nod 11 ай бұрын
The everyday citizens and unaligned are often untold stories, thank you for telling those of the Tib wars.
@mateuszslawinski1990
@mateuszslawinski1990 11 ай бұрын
Oddly enough in one of the last Nod missions in TD ("Steal the Codes" I believe) village in the north is hostile to both factions as GDI starts "deconstruction" as soon as you discover the area.
@sirajkhalid1865
@sirajkhalid1865 11 ай бұрын
Amazing as always.Would love to see Jethild expand to Red Alert Universe Lore.
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 11 ай бұрын
He is not there yet, but he will eventually.
@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowww
@MeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowMeowww 11 ай бұрын
@@LINJ638 He my continioue until everything is told and explained. What would be a dauntingly huge task, but i can imagen him having the passion for it.
@Millzee117
@Millzee117 11 ай бұрын
Jethild continuing to prove why he’s the Goat 🐐 Half an hour of content based on neutral buildings 💪😎👍
@Codoloco1
@Codoloco1 11 ай бұрын
its crazy you havent even touched red alert, I love these videos. So much lore to explore
@mmcion1
@mmcion1 11 ай бұрын
If there is ever another -good- C&C game they need to bring you in as a consultant.
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 11 ай бұрын
That won’t happen as EA is more interested in cost cutting projects.
@Kaiju-Driver
@Kaiju-Driver 10 ай бұрын
I'm always impressed by the quality of these videos. The breaking down of things from the first war to the present is always cool. And tis video had much more content then expected.
@aarongerard7277
@aarongerard7277 11 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the Grassy Knoll map and the neutral assassin is meant as a reference to the JFK assassination.
@SportyMabamba
@SportyMabamba 11 ай бұрын
Tiberium can’t melt steel beams
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 11 ай бұрын
Yeah... Magic bullet, my a🐬...
@praeamble
@praeamble 6 ай бұрын
I never got this reference as a kid :P
@channel_lurker
@channel_lurker 11 ай бұрын
YEEEAAAA BABY THATS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR, WHOOOOOOOO!!!
@LillianAredhel
@LillianAredhel 11 ай бұрын
Perfect timing, hah. Just finished your last video on GDI Armour!
@joshuablade6974
@joshuablade6974 11 ай бұрын
Kickass video mate! Love the inclusion of Tib 3's tech buildings! And the overall military-like aesthetic if not briefings is awesome! Looking forward to when you brief us commanders on the badass Infantry of GDI!
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 11 ай бұрын
How about the MCV? I imagine it is going to be shorter like the Red Alert Construction Yard video that he made way back and be more focused on the evolution behind these huge lumbering Vehicle. And GDI’s space capable aircraft such as Drop Pods and their control plugs upgrades, Space Station Philadelphia, space command uplink, the Kodiak, etc….. like do an in-depth schematic by breaking down into the vehicle and telling the viewers watching this in what this section and parts do, etc……
@joshuablade6974
@joshuablade6974 11 ай бұрын
@@LINJ638 We'll see. ^^
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 11 ай бұрын
@@joshuablade6974 He said in the GDI Armor that he will do a video on MCV and in the GDI Air Force, that he will do a separate video on space capable vehicles.
@joshuablade6974
@joshuablade6974 11 ай бұрын
@@LINJ638 Indeed. But we'll see if he does so truly. It's up to him.
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 11 ай бұрын
He will get there when time tells. It takes quite a bit of work to do so. And look, he is not the one that breaks promises to his viewers in the past and it shows time after time.
@Cheapstall
@Cheapstall 11 ай бұрын
Love this channel
@RC-qv9in
@RC-qv9in 11 ай бұрын
❤️
@FluffySylveonBoi
@FluffySylveonBoi 9 ай бұрын
I love the Forgotten from Tiberian Sun, who use cars, vans and buses as war machines and stolen tech as well as Tiberium lifeforms. That is quite powerful, especially if they use guerrilla tactics.
@Megalotron
@Megalotron 11 ай бұрын
As always, you provide excellent C&C content when it is sorely lacking. I know you can't keep doing it, but I'll be here for anything else you do in the future.
@RC-qv9in
@RC-qv9in 11 ай бұрын
Me too!
@DonPandemoniac
@DonPandemoniac 11 ай бұрын
Great video. These structures absolutely add another layer of strategy to the game. Cool to see their reason for existence explained in your detailed fashion. Seeing a convoy of APC's loaded with mutant marauders going to town or a surprise EMP blast taking down a group of aircraft are sights to behold.
@zachseabass7414
@zachseabass7414 11 ай бұрын
As always - great job, man! Always loved those neutral factions on skirmish maps of TS
@DiocletianLarius
@DiocletianLarius 10 ай бұрын
35:47 I love when you speculate about future events, it gets me hyped up to play a new C&C game. I would never understand why they didn't make a sequel for C&C:3, this series have so much potential :S
@TekkaSage
@TekkaSage 11 ай бұрын
So happy you are still posting videos. Love the lore.
@Vandelberger
@Vandelberger 11 ай бұрын
Hey, just want to say your videos are fantastic. I know it’s a niche topic, but you fill in the C@C gap well.
@wardasz
@wardasz 11 ай бұрын
Two villages fighting over the half of a country? That sound... well, it sound like a old computer game :D
@royasturias1784
@royasturias1784 11 ай бұрын
Writing in video games back then wasn't as deep and detailed as writing in video games now. Assume that those villages belonged to archrival political parties.
@generalzapp548
@generalzapp548 11 ай бұрын
Babe wake up!! New Jethild video just dropped!
@blagojpejov4155
@blagojpejov4155 11 ай бұрын
Nice work on the neutral forces man
@alephalon7849
@alephalon7849 11 ай бұрын
Always a pleasure to watch your deep dives into C&C lore.
@laus3543
@laus3543 11 ай бұрын
Love these videos keep up the good work!
@ionutmaricuta958
@ionutmaricuta958 11 ай бұрын
Amazing work jethild 👍
@ice111110
@ice111110 11 ай бұрын
I’m always really excited when you release a video
@servit0r
@servit0r 11 ай бұрын
Hey I somewhat recently stumbled upon your channel and C&C lore and your content is a joy to watch thank you!
@flakbait5771
@flakbait5771 11 ай бұрын
Great breakdown. I love these; well done!
@ServantOfOdin
@ServantOfOdin 11 ай бұрын
I never knew I needed that info. Lovely-dovely, great work.
@thesweetone
@thesweetone 11 ай бұрын
Just when I thought I wouldn't be able to get through the day you drop a video. Thank you :)
@adelbertschulz8049
@adelbertschulz8049 10 ай бұрын
@Jethild, you doing good! Outstanding!
@DarkRaptor86
@DarkRaptor86 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for you work, i really enjoy your lore videos.
@alexandermenschmaschine5361
@alexandermenschmaschine5361 11 ай бұрын
Amazing video! It one more time reminds such an atmospheric world was created by C&C developers. And the true thing was mentioning: c&c 3 maps are lifeless in comparison with previous games. Sad that this feature was misssed
@tarazzzs
@tarazzzs 11 ай бұрын
I was waiting the day you make video about the Forgotten. Thank you!
@Jethild
@Jethild 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say that this video is really about the Forgotten since I feel they established themselves as a unique major faction, at least during the Second Tiberium War. This one was more focused on the minor factions and neutral tech buildings. There was definitely a lot of detail I skipped over for the Forgotten in this video, such as their units, buildings and missions. So I'll probably end up doing a more detailed video dedicated to them in the future.
@tarazzzs
@tarazzzs 11 ай бұрын
@@Jethild Still, I glad that the memory of that faction is still there) And hope you will make video just about the mutants, even if it will be 5 min video.
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 11 ай бұрын
@@Jethild It feels like the civilians who are part of the neutral forces are a bunch of extras on Mad Max.
@mkb7001
@mkb7001 10 ай бұрын
another great lore dump!
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 11 ай бұрын
Did not expect something different from the usual norm of GDI and NOD factions lore. Very impressive and interesting commentary indeed.
@scarecrow559fresno
@scarecrow559fresno 7 ай бұрын
my life is tough rn thank you for these videos
@rodrigobentancourt
@rodrigobentancourt 11 ай бұрын
I love your content bro
@DRRDGRAPHICARTIST
@DRRDGRAPHICARTIST 10 ай бұрын
Good as usual
@danilonakazone386
@danilonakazone386 10 ай бұрын
I love C&C TW, it is in my top 5 favorite games, I feel sad becasue we never got a sequel to C&C TW:KW... I wish there story could continue, with NOD being almost "abandoned", GDI becoming really powerful due to the captured new tech and new leasdership with general Granger. Only for a new proper invasion to begin and NOD to make a glorious comeback as powerful as they were during TW2.
@amoyen_worior
@amoyen_worior 11 ай бұрын
Yeaaaaaaaaah!!!! The forgoten!! Is here!!!!!! EDIT: can you talk about the lore of the forgoten? And there units and buildings pls??
@GreenSoldierProductions
@GreenSoldierProductions 6 ай бұрын
Would love another command and conquer game in the tiberian sun timeline
@trungbao8452
@trungbao8452 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much
@gsthomas187
@gsthomas187 11 ай бұрын
New 30+ minute Jethild video. We're so back.
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 11 ай бұрын
The longer the better!!!!
@OverlordIX
@OverlordIX 11 ай бұрын
When I saw the title on neutral forces, I immediately thought of that one neutral base in the TS Firestorm map Cityscape. Those little bases added their own flair to the maps, and I'm really glad you didn't gloss over them even though they had no bearing on the lore/story in canon!
@fadzli1234
@fadzli1234 11 ай бұрын
I love how much the developers put their efforts into previous games until the quality started dropping down on Tiberium wars 3 and then worse, Tiberian Twilight.
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 11 ай бұрын
It hurts how Tiberium Wars and Kane's Wrath still had potential, even with what they already had. - the old Militia model could've been used for agressive "Insurgents" or "Criminals" that occupied more urban maps. - hostile Mutant Marauders could've shown up in Red Zone maps, attacking any faction on sight. - the new crab-like Viceroids could've still kept spawning and walking around causing chaos, either from the corners of the map or right out of a Tiberium field. The assets were there, however limited, they just needed to implement them! *But no.* :/ EA probably thought this had no place in a more "online multiplayer competitive scenario" or some other bullshit.
@maxrander0101
@maxrander0101 11 ай бұрын
the expansion points are good if you use them in conjunction with your factions own base expanding units they can be used to allow a larger build area within a outer defence line thus in effect you can create a forward base to allow for long range guns to be deployed alongside the defense buildings they are also able to help extend the building area around those units allowing for the building of even larger defence lines which if you build those line right would mean your main base was never troubled by enemy forces as they could never breach those outer lines and the longer ranged units deployed with them ment most ground units of the enemy were taken out outside of the range of the defence buildings or almost destroyed and only needed one hit from your defence line
@mbnqpl
@mbnqpl 10 ай бұрын
I love your videos ❤ Kane lives!
@baldmanevil
@baldmanevil 11 ай бұрын
there is also the only cutscene appearance of a crate, which Kane (for some reason) used inside the warhead of his World-Altering Missile. It appears briefly before exploding and spreading concentrated Tiberium across the entire planet
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 11 ай бұрын
That ain't no crate, that was the Tiberium filled core of the warhead...
@baldmanevil
@baldmanevil 11 ай бұрын
@@louievelayo4100 the crates were used to store extremely sensitive materials like the Tacitus, Scrin technology, sonic crystals and the like, so it would not be ridiculous if it was a crate in the missile. It is also exactly the same shape and approximate size as the crates of the game, so it's either a crate or something exactly like a crate and with exactly the same dimensions and features
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 11 ай бұрын
What kind of crate is that transparent and has the capability to destroy the world?
@baldmanevil
@baldmanevil 11 ай бұрын
@@louievelayo4100 even if we're not agreeing it's a crate, we can agree it deliberately was made to look exactly like one. It is a crate or something with the exact same dimensions and shape
@45580677
@45580677 11 ай бұрын
thank you
@Okkusen
@Okkusen 10 ай бұрын
at least you try to keep up command and conguer!! Thank you
@noktinnkynoktinnky1329
@noktinnkynoktinnky1329 11 ай бұрын
Imagine you are so unlucky that you found a crate containing nuke like wow
@user-xu2pi6vx7o
@user-xu2pi6vx7o 11 ай бұрын
Too bad we never got a 4th game to explain things further. Oh well..., maybe one day...
@AremStefaniaK
@AremStefaniaK 10 ай бұрын
If only you could hire Kane's voice actor to do your voiceacting, you'd have a few million subscribers. He Lives!!
@RedScorpion92
@RedScorpion92 10 ай бұрын
When it comes to the crates and the equipment you gain from them, they could be seen as large containers that could hold anything, their small size simply the result of the commanders overview of the battlefield.
@SPY46
@SPY46 10 ай бұрын
I remember making a mod for CnC 3 that let the factions build relevant tech buildings, Nod got the EMP, GDI got the turret with AA ability, and Tib spikes. Scrin got the tower thing
@Klonter77
@Klonter77 11 ай бұрын
Tiberian Sun was more a movie than a game :D
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 11 ай бұрын
I know right???? 80's actor like Michael Biehn.
@Klonter77
@Klonter77 11 ай бұрын
@@LINJ638 Yes hahaha
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 11 ай бұрын
*And we loved it for it.* :')
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 11 ай бұрын
They did not put it too much detail into the FMV, leaving the viewers to figure out the rest of how the game would exist in real life.
@robertherter1640
@robertherter1640 11 ай бұрын
Yes a new one fing awesome
@andreykuzmin4355
@andreykuzmin4355 11 ай бұрын
So what shall it be, Jethild? Will you join the Forgotten, or will you die in here? Join! Die! JOIN! DIE!.. oh, wrong super mutant army
@RadicalEdward2
@RadicalEdward2 10 ай бұрын
8:24 I was always under the impression that the base on Cityscape was a city militia or private army that just happens to not have any allegiance due to limitations of skirmish or balancing reasons. Cityscape also has more scripted events than any other skirmish map in the game. It even features cars that leave the map only once and vehicles that drive onto and out of the map multiple times.
@NaraiOskara
@NaraiOskara 11 ай бұрын
Goddess i miss C&C games.
@canon07
@canon07 11 ай бұрын
Tib wars are mostly more interesting since they have perspective on people especially people in yellow zone also living in it.
@Lifeform84
@Lifeform84 11 ай бұрын
Thank You for making this Video, i really enjoyed this... I remember in Tiberiun Sun, and Dawn, several campaign levels had Abandoned Nod and GDI structures, that always made me wonder the cause behind it, I remember a level (Dont Remember Witch) had 2 abandoned power plants and 1 missile silo (I Think they were Dark Pink Colored) Why would an GDI, NOD leave behind a base with units and structures ?
@user-xu2pi6vx7o
@user-xu2pi6vx7o 11 ай бұрын
My best guess would be a sudden spike in environmental conditions, or mutant fauna, that forced a rapid evacuation of the area, with no time to destroy or evacuate equipment. It could also be that they expected to return, after conditions had improved, but then the tactical situation changed, making that impossible or unfeasible.
@pillbox2801
@pillbox2801 11 ай бұрын
just makes me want more unaffiliated tib cultists
@Nirual86
@Nirual86 11 ай бұрын
just the whole flavor of tib sun with the mutants and tiberian life forms is criminally underdeveloped. I would've loved a whole (official) forgotten playable faction and campaign. Even if making use of old GDI or Nod hardware like we've seen in that game they could still have their own new spin on the existing design.
@HeyGuy4321
@HeyGuy4321 3 ай бұрын
2:04 NIKOOMBA The absolute legend. RiP sweet prince.
@shadowguy321
@shadowguy321 11 ай бұрын
That was something the bothered me in the later C&C games. From Zero Hour onwards, we never see civilians again and they added a lot of flavour to the games. Imagine Allied level Hollywood and Vain if there were not civilians, it just wouldn't hit the same. Or the TS mission where you put down a riot using nonlethal tactics. Imagine in TW having just 1 mal where the map is in chaos from an uprising, or there's a neutral army of just scrappy units trying to keep everyone away. I personally blame the watering down of the T rating (the same way that movies have watered down what PG is). C&C started in a time when T truly meant teen. And C&C isn't the only game that suffered from it. First Starcraft game, we see a Terran's head explode as he's stabbed by a hydralisk in the face. That shit would never fly in a modern T game, that would be an instant M. TLDR: I miss civilians and I miss when T actually meant teen.
@royasturias1784
@royasturias1784 11 ай бұрын
Geneva Conventions (if the video games are set in the 1950s onwards), German versions of any non-educational video game, the birth of CERO by the Japanese Parliament... You bring up CoD5 Modern Warfare 2 (not MW2 Re-imagined), Spec Ops: The Line and many GTA games (and their competitors) for atrocities upon civvies and noncombatants? Those are/were M-rated games. You'd be penalized for straight-up eliminating a civvie in the (T-rated or below) game. Destroy All Humans! allows your MC (who is an alien invader) to, well, destroy all humans.
@shadowguy321
@shadowguy321 11 ай бұрын
@@royasturias1784 it true..I feel like the T rating used to actually mean T, but M took on most of that because companies (like movies with PG) felt that T made you feel "adult" but wasn't so old that it would scare away families while E was too kiddish (something I disagree with but ok). Now T seems to be geared towards 12-15 and M despite saying 17+ is more like 16+. I generally like the PEGI system more. And yes, having there be some kind of consequence to attacking civilians. There are so many ways to integrate civilians into gameplay she's have it feel meaningful
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 11 ай бұрын
Dude, imagine a "neutral nation" faction system for the Generals series! :D Since most of the game is set mostly on the Asian steppes, the Middle East and eastern Europe, we could have "nation" neutral factions whose units are a bit of mix of other factions, since so many of them like vehicles and such are mostly Cold War era! Here's a few ideas off the top of my head: - Saudi Arabia: *Infantry:* GLA Rebel *Vehicles:* Max upgraded GLA Scorpion or China's Battlemaster, USA's Humvee, and GLA Quad cannon *Aircraft:* China's Helix or the USA's Comanche - Russia *Infantry:* USA's Ranger or GLA Rebel, and China's Tank hunter *Vehicles:* China's Battlemaster, China's Inferno cannon, and tier 1 upgraded GLA Marauder *Aircraft:* China's Helix and China's MiG - Poland *Infantry:* USA's Ranger or China's Minigunner, and USA's Javelin or China's Tank hunter *Vehicles:* USA's Crusader or China's Battlemaster, USA's Tomahawk launcher and GLA Quad cannon *Aircraft:* China's Helix or USA's Comanche And these are just some unrefined ideas that popped in my mind! The idea being that each map located in a country would have its own neutral faction representing the country's military forces, which would initially be hostile to all outside Campaign missions). You would either have to either destroy them or convert them, the latter done by one of the following manners: A) capture a certain "central building" of the country, like a military headquarters or a goverment building. B) build a new "Embassy" building on a specific area next to their base, similar to the Natives mechanic from Age of Empires III. C) train a new "Ambassador" unit that is not attacked by them and send him to their main building, *the catch being that they die easily to anything, so other players can assassinate him before he gets there.* Sorry! I know this is a lot, but I always wanted something like this in Generals/Zero Hour!
@antoniodelaugger9236
@antoniodelaugger9236 11 ай бұрын
@@MrDibara i think generals already had the perfect neutral faction, the UN. It encompasses the rest of the world together as none of the nations you mentioned are that influential in the series because the GLA fucked them up and only USA and China could deal with them.
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 11 ай бұрын
@@antoniodelaugger9236 Oh yes, they were VERY minor compared to the big three, but I still felt each country deserved to have a minimal of its own military force. Even if it was 20 times weaker and lacking compared to the GLA, the United States and China. As for the U.N., _they barely do anything aside from sending supply crates to the warzones._ Other than that, they're completely missing from the conflict, *which oddly enough I suppose is accurate to most U.N. endeavors in real life. They hardly solve shit.* But that is precisely why I think each regional map (that are not in GLA, US and China territory) should have its own neutral faction representing the country in which said map is located at. Weaker than the three main factions or not, the military of said country wouldn't just go down without a fight, and that would add a new hindrance and challenge for all the players on the match, just like the insurgents or Mutants in the Tiberian Sun Skirmish maps.
@SupremeRTS
@SupremeRTS 11 ай бұрын
Hey is the animated video at 12:59 available somewhere? It would make for an awesome pc homescreen
@Jethild
@Jethild 11 ай бұрын
Right here kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYmZZKueqrOoppI
@wolflordgrimnar89
@wolflordgrimnar89 11 ай бұрын
Could you do infantry next? I have always loved the foot sloggers of the Tiberium series, especially the 2nd game and its DLC
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 11 ай бұрын
Already did for Nod and Scrin, all that's left is for GDI...
@LINJ638
@LINJ638 11 ай бұрын
GDI’s Infantry video is going to be just as long if not nearly an hour as much as previous NOD’s Infantry video.
@thefiredragon658
@thefiredragon658 11 ай бұрын
i love how he does not even mention tiberian twilight in any of his videos
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 11 ай бұрын
_What is that, some kinda bad fanfiction?_ ;D
@thefiredragon658
@thefiredragon658 11 ай бұрын
@@MrDibara perhaps just a feverdream
@LairOfLair
@LairOfLair 11 ай бұрын
There is no such game, whaddaya talkin about, dude
@LexieAssassin
@LexieAssassin 11 ай бұрын
Confusing chaos with anarchy annoys me to no end...
@KrusherMike
@KrusherMike 2 ай бұрын
Ahh, the Neutrals... can't trust 'em! At least with enemies you know where they stand! ~ The Zapper
@BaronVonMott
@BaronVonMott 10 ай бұрын
"What makes a man turn neutral? A lust for power? Gold? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"
@chenli9778
@chenli9778 8 ай бұрын
By the way during the Scrin Campaign Scrin Foreman did captured a Forgotten camp and either hired or maybe mind controlled some Mutant Marauders to Fight for Scrin ... Maybe Scrin simulate those Marauders since their engineer units called simulator... Or maybe this Marauders did get Convinced that scrin could help them in some ways... Or Scrin just paid them with Tiberium and Marauders just thought a deal is a deal ...
@AdamTheCoop1
@AdamTheCoop1 10 ай бұрын
Oh my god there is so much content in this playlist, this is awesome and makes me a little sad I was at the age where 'fun' in C&C Red Alert was hosting LAN games at an elementary school on windows network edition and everyone picked russia to spam tesla and tanks, cheat codes led to some interesting times.
@Spyduck
@Spyduck 11 ай бұрын
I'm a complete amateur in Kane's Wrath, and hammerheads are my only way to beat a Brutal FFA. If I had a choice, I would love for Mutants to substitute my rifleman squads to add to the anti-air capability
@chongchun8979
@chongchun8979 11 ай бұрын
Emp command center could have more details to it,like the emitters launch energy to a orbital satellite and deflect it to the designated location
@daenghasriofficial
@daenghasriofficial Ай бұрын
Can you explain about the building at 01:43 ? Is it oil pump ?
@GummieI
@GummieI 11 ай бұрын
Honestly debatable whether a shrouding the entire map, or finding and explosion in a crate is worst, specially if you only have a 1-2 lower tier units that get exploded. Where as loosing vision again depending on situation can be disatraous in the worst cases at least
@Snufflegrunt
@Snufflegrunt 11 ай бұрын
It should be mentioned that many civilians and civilian buildings are marked as hostile in the GDI campaign, usually later on. GDI aren't angels.
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 11 ай бұрын
Mostly because they sympathize with and support Nod, it's justified... They're helping Nod, *BLAST 'EM!* Much like how the Allies treat Soviet civilians once they set foot into the Soviet Union... They're helping the Soviet forces here, *BLAST 'EM!*
@antoniodelaugger9236
@antoniodelaugger9236 11 ай бұрын
I don't think theres a single faction in the command and conquer series that doesn't stop itself from running civilians over and destroying civilian structures
@louievelayo4100
@louievelayo4100 11 ай бұрын
@@antoniodelaugger9236 Well the only exceptions were Tiberium Wars and Red Alert 3... Sure there are destroyable civilian structures only because infantry can garrison them, but the only civilian thing that gets run over in both games are abandoned cars... Also there are wandering civilians in Tiberium Wars, but they're only encountered in Blue Zone maps, are wise enough to run away at the sight of an incoming military unit, and are invincible for some odd reason...
@trungbao8452
@trungbao8452 11 ай бұрын
Next up, could you make a about Red Alert Series?
@KILAH4716
@KILAH4716 11 ай бұрын
Call them crates all you want. In Tib Sun, there's no other name for them other than "soccer ball." XD
@youmukonpaku3168
@youmukonpaku3168 11 ай бұрын
I always called them d20s.
@LairOfLair
@LairOfLair 11 ай бұрын
@@youmukonpaku3168 but they're d12s...
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