NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THE ENEMIES! | WHAT WAS THE PLAN BEHIND CALIGULA'S CASINO IN GTA SAN ANDREAS

[@R3AL-AIM]

This is why the 3D Universe games were much better... Feels like there was so much more to the lore and world building. Everything in those games had a deep story. That captivated me at a young age and I miss this type of seriousness in GTA.

[@nobodyjustacreep]

@@Prince.Shoaib-back2YT ppl dont give the story of GTA 4 and 5 enough credit

[@tut-4126]

I mean, part of the depth was the fact that there are many games in 3D universe, and thus all of them are ,,connected" in a way. Would've... Could've rather... been the same thing for HD universe but we got Expanded and Enchanced instead :/

[@nickalexcage]

You have to understand the older games were heavily inter connected. Each game added more lore.

[@gaminginvestigators]

Yes, we definitely agree! 🙂 In our opinion, 3D universe has some great quality lore and interesting facts.. It's great to see how different installments refer to one another and intertwine 😃 Although we must admit that in terms of storyline, GTA 4 has a special place in our hearts 🙂

[@R3AL-AIM]

@@gaminginvestigators I definitely agree, as GTA IV was the first game I've ever played and beaten where the only other thing I did was eat and sleep until I was 100% done lol GTAV was great as well, I just think the shilling on GTA: Online makes me forget how good it was.

[@trentonbates3114]

Cj: "how you doin johnny" Johnny: has a full on heart attack Cj is my all time favorite gta protagonist hands down

[@gaminginvestigators]

Poor Johnny 😂

[@bruhistantv9806]

"That nigga fucked up!"

[@steveo3947]

@@bruhistantv9806 I lost it on that one lmao

[@Kaixfikwind]

8:55 I always love that scene lol, CJ's so powerful he killed someone just by looking at 'em lol

[@Momito99]

“The Sindaccos and the Leones? That’s impossible, that’s been impossible since your associates whacked my cousin”. That is definitely a lowkey reference to Goodfellas’ story about the assassination of Billy Batts, played by the same voice actor of Salvatore Leone, Frank Vincent.

[@saulgoodman2892]

You’re basically the only proper GTA lore youtuber. It’s amazing how much effort you put in. People don’t really tend to pick up all the pieces of the story that’s in front of them. thank you for all that you do you make quality content

[@mr.andrew7820]

TheProfessional is also good

[@karabomafa5609]

Another interesting side note.. The bodyguard standing behind Johnny Sindacco when he suffers a heart attack looks exactly like the bodyguard Salvatore Leone instructs to tip Maria in the other cutscene

[@gaminginvestigators]

That's a great observation! Another logical error made by Rockstar and their laziness 😂

[@AH-is5yg]

Salvatore tried to backstab everyone at the casino, but CJ backstabbed and robbed him. Poetic Justice and Karma. He was so focused on getting rid of others but he didn't expect a third party to come in. Salvatore should have checked and find out who took out Johnny before he made any moves.

[@gaminginvestigators]

Yes, all he wanted is to take the casino for himself. But he was stupid enough to trust CJ even without checking his background and such. 😃

[@AH-is5yg]

@@gaminginvestigators he should have checked to find out who killed Johnny first and learn about the Triads Casino and he would have put two and two together

[@cameroredrocket8768]

@@AH-is5yg CJ would still whoop his ass tho

[@AH-is5yg]

@@cameroredrocket8768 Salvatore didn't know how dangerous CJ really is. Even if he did tried to go after him and his family, Salvatore would still lose.

[@Spartak2811]

@@gaminginvestigators He also was stupid enough to marry a young girl old enough to be his daughter who didn’t like and despised him from the beginning, put many horns in him and caused many troubles to him😂. He even predicted himself in SA introduction “Me? I’m just an old fool.” Really, an old fool. He clearly proved that Russian idiom “A white hair in the beard and a demon in the rib” came from life, not from air. I guess R* showed a bitter lesson of unequal marriage perfectly, ruined blood and ego to many old lovelaces and womanizers and made young girls to think about their choice of future partner. This unequal and dysfunctional marriage is a reflection of our reality. But as we see, history doesn’t teach people anything.

[@ryanoz5374]

The 3D Universe of GTA had the potentiel to being a Vince Gilligan's TV show

[@yezki8]

Imagine being Liberty City's Mafia family: - Mugged twice out of business by 2 random dudes in the 80's from the south coast - Backstabbed multiple times by a ghetto kid turned miracle soldier in early 90's on the east coast - Bankruptcy, go back to west coast, only to be met by power instability and trust issue, just because a random dude in mid 90's suddenly becomes the most dangerous man in the city. - And then literally got massacered, wiped out from existence physically by a random mute, who happens to be there because he lost a bet from that miracle soldier that mug you one decade ago

[@gaminginvestigators]

That sucks af! 😂 But well, we are certain that it was well deserved to them for being too cocky.

[@cameroredrocket8768]

Is this about Leone family?

[@Spartak2811]

@@cameroredrocket8768 it’s about all 3 La Cosa Nostra Families in Liberty City -Leone, Forelli and Sindacco. Forelli were wiped out from Vice City in 1986 by Tommy Vercetti All 3 were wiped out from Las Venturas in 1992 by CJ. Sindacco were completely destroyed and Forelli were belittled in 1998 by Antonio Cipriani. Forelli were finally destroyed in 2001 by Claude. Decline of the Leone family in 2001, especially after killing Salvatore Leone by Claude. This is called the fall of the Mafia.

[@allstargaming2500]

Tbh I once hated SA just how badly it ran on my PC. I played all the other 3D gta games and they worked fine. However I came to know that the LV story revolves around the mafia families in LC and Ken and Paul are in the plot. I installed it on mobile and played the game and guess what I never left SA again. Now I play it on my new PC.

[@gaminginvestigators]

Well, we on the other hand dislike GTA 5, it doesn't feel like the other ones.. And this whole GTA Online cow discourages us from touching this installment even more. But we are aware of the fact that we are gonna have to explore this game in the future as well 😅

[@allstargaming2500]

@@gaminginvestigators Yeah the story seemed straightforward for me. Also Gta IV a previous HD era game has much more mission choices than Gta V. Online ruined the criminal feel and made us lifesavers or saviours of the city. I hate everytime I see Rockstar saying Los Santos and Blaine County. I always wanted to know why they stick with Gta Online rather than releasing Gta VI

[@23GreyFox]

@@gaminginvestigators GTA IV felt so much more alive compared to GTA V. For example in GTA IV you can walk into some random guy on the streets, he drops his coffee and say some shit to you, then you can take the coffee from the ground and throw it in his face. I just love all the small details.

[@Spartak2811]

This is another brilliant video from my favourite channel! If 3 La Cosa Nostra familles acted like equal partners using neutral party and didn’t try to double cross, I think there would be no Caligula’s Casino heist. And everyone paid the price for that. Especially Salvatore. Of course, he wanted some fair stake, but instead of being an equal partner he came as an usurper and an invader. He didn’t want to be an equal partner, he wanted this “neutral” guy to be his own guy, not the neutral guy for all 3 families. He decided to outsmart and manipulate everyone and then betray them and take all Casino for himself. It shows his true nature. He’s a complete hypocrite calling himself a man of honour, he never was a man of honour, he never played fair. He’s a very vain, greedy, narcissistic, sneaky, treacherous and even sadistic psychopath with giant ego, megalomania and endless lust for power. A man with one rule in his veins “Betray first before you could be betrayed”. And when Sindacco were wiped out he decided to take out Forelli from the game and then get rid of a “neutral” Ken Rosenberg because he took Casino for himself, Ken did his job and no longer needed. He had outlived his usefulness. And what Mafia does with people who outlived their usefulness? Correct, Mafia gets rid of them, like a used condom. Salvatore would had get rid of Kent Paul and Maccer as well after hanging them by their legs in sadistic way with a huge pleasure. And without his paranoia. It’s just so happened that CJ existed. CJ did the justice robbing Caligula’s Casino. He was a great strategist. He saw Salvatore’s evil and villainous personality perfectly. He saw what he did with Ken, Kent and Maccer. He saved them from Salvatore’s shackles, in fact, he saved them from inevitable death. Salvatore would have killed all three of them. Without his paranoia. He saw that he’s very sneaky, treacherous, manipulative and narcissistic megalomaniac with endless lust for power. And he stroke first. Our African-American gangster from Grove Street, a criminal with caring and kind heart, destroyed Salvatore’s vain narcissist ego and humiliated him. He lowered him below the baseboard! He turned him into laughingstock! Salvatore thought that he’s the smartest, the strongest and the most cunning than everyone. That he can outsmart and manipulate everyone and then betray them for power and his ego, but he burned in that. He never thought that his skills could be used against him. He was so screwed over, so humiliated, so insulted that he became not only paranoid, but more violent, unforgivable, psychotic and greedy. And the rule “Betray first before you could be betrayed” became his main in his life. Also in Las Venturas Salvatore made the dumbest decision in his life. You know which one? He never knew about old good Russian idiom “A white hair in the beard and a demon in the rib”. And I mean is… when he was 57 y.o. widower and a lustful womanizer, he decided to seduce, to molest and choose as a second wife very young and naive girl old enough to be his daughter. Well, it was his choice and no one forced him. I don’t know why story of the only female deuteragonist was fully rewritten and destroyed, but nevermind! Remember, dear guys and ladies, a white hair in the beard and a demon in the rib is not so much a chance to find a second youth, as a chance to stay with horns, discarding hooves. Sorry for long comment, but I love to explain this all in detail and on the shelves. Also, read my huge but good and a devastating article on Reddit about how Salvatore Leone poisoned and ruined Maria’s life. Hope, investigators will see it and… they can use it in their next videos. Stay safe. www.reddit.com/r/GTA3/comments/vvzsj0/salvatore_leone_poisoned_and_ruined_marias_life/?

[@gaminginvestigators]

Thank you so much for the appreciation, homie! 😃 You've made a great summary of the topic, we can't agree more. Now when it comes to your analysis of how Salvatore Leone poisoned and ruined Maria's life, we have already seen it 🤭 It's a great piece of work right there. Take care!

[@celticbalkan2219]

There are rumors that the next GTA IV or whatever it will be called will be set in Vice City. But personally I would like the next GTA to be set in Las Venturas. A city of sin and vice that has been legalized. I would like it if there was a big map, where the desert will prevail and of course if there would be smaller cities on the map. But since some very important people left the company, I think we may never see a new GTA game. Great video as always!

[@gaminginvestigators]

Glad you enjoyed the video! 🤘 When it comes to the location in GTA VI.. we personally feel that Vice City should be the way to go. Although seeing Las Venturas or San Fierro would also be cool! We were even thinking about whether Rockstar will attempt to leave Liberty City and San Andreas and maybe take us to South America, Panama perhaps? 😃

[@celticbalkan2219]

@@gaminginvestigators That would be awesome .

[@bowkatiewow]

The casino missions in the game are some of my favourite. They’re so much fun

[@gaminginvestigators]

Yeah, we love them too! They seem more dynamic than Los Santos ones, at least from our point of view 😃

[@saintakins187]

Much as I'm all for a gang peace treaty, if two mafia families have been beefing for years a there are some things that are not going to really be forgiven for his Mafia conflict.

[@gaminginvestigators]

We either! But the problem is these families were fighting each other for years or even decades :/ So even if there was peace, it was only temporary..

[@deep6corbin33]

Always admire your work. Hope you will continue more interesting topics like this💯

[@gaminginvestigators]

We surely will, we can assure you 😎

[@justsomeguy747]

The problem was between the crime families is that each sought to gain advantage on the other, rather than consolidate their effort to regain the invested money. By 1992, the Leone crime family were the strongest Mafia family in the city, but the Forellis and Sindaccos weren't far behind. Salvatore felt that as the most powerful party, he was entitled to have more authority. However by enlisting Ken, in a way, he gave each family authority, but he pushed Ken around personally. A topic which you didn't speak about but also important is whether Salvatore wanted to sabtoage the venture altogether to gain complete control - Yes and no. While he despised the families, he didn't want any bloodshed until any other family act against him, which is the case with the Forellis, because it was bad for business. When Johnny died, Salvatore saw an opportunity to claim the Sindaccos' infiluence in Las Venturas, at least temporarily, or more specifically, acquire the controlling share in the casino, which was highly likely the Sindaccos' as the owners. Salvatore seized the opportunity to gain power only when it didn't implicate him. Still though, this massive greed and power-dominating on Salvatore's part was miscalculated. If the familes would really put their problems aside, they would have been more successful. Namely, not working behind each others' backs, have equal infiluence in the city, and not making acts that would cause a war such as with the Forellis. This ultimately caused the casino's bankrupty, and led to a massive war between the families. Also, Ken mentioned the Triads presence in the city, so its possible that each family knew of them. The reason why they didn't act against them togehter is probably due to them prioritizing their own interests over their alliance. Overall, great video, just wanted to share my thoughts.

[@gaminginvestigators]

Happy to hear you liked it! Now about the case you mentioned.. we thought that we said something about this 🤔 We believe that the second reason stated in the video points out indirectly at your topic, but touches all families, not just Salvatore's. Anyway, we have checked the phone calls and you're right! Rosenberg mentions that he heard some rumors about the Triads being in LV. However, there's one issue - this phone call will be played only after the "Fish in a Barrel" mission. In other words, it will be after "Intensive Care" or "The Meat Business" missions. So basically we can see how long the message took to be spread outside of Las Venturas. Unfortunately, we are afraid it doesn't change the fact that Johnny could tell other families about the Triads much earlier.. Thanks for the comment!

[@justsomeguy747]

@@gaminginvestigators Appreciate it. Apologies for the confusion.

[@stormmdf1008]

Tony and Cj did so much do their families. Cj for his hood ,brother and sister . Tony for the Leone family especially Salvatore . What’s crazy tony was suppose to get 1 million dollars from Salvatore but he instead got 500k . I Respect them both ✊🏾 Love the videos glad i subscribed takes me back …

[@gaminginvestigators]

Yeah, they both did a lot for their organizations 🙂 Thank you very much for your support, homie! Welcome to the family 😎

[@douglassfunnie9959]

And both of them got jack shit besides criticism for it. Families are a liability as GTA has proven. ...At least Tommy had the right idea. Lol

[@Gazpacho834]

You know there was a comment in one of The Professionals videos about San Andreas who stated that the reason why most of the mafias have fallen was due to the Don’s greed during the 80s to the 90s as we can clearly see with Sonny, Paulie, and in real life John Gotti

[@gaminginvestigators]

Well, in that case, every family is greedy as hell, although we are certain that Salvatore is a real G.O.A.T when it comes to being greedy. 😅 Thanks for the comment!

[@Michka1001]

I still love how you use the GTA 2 baking track, I'll never get sick of it 😅 for nostalgic purposes, GTA 2 will always be my favourite ❤️

[@gaminginvestigators]

And remember: RESPECT is EVERYTHING 😎

[@playerunkown8699]

Ken rosenberg basically is grand theft auto version of saul goodman But gta is before the series

[@gaminginvestigators]

But Ken is more cowardly 😂

[@toledochristianmatthew9919]

@@gaminginvestigators and saul can actually be a threatening guy at times and even does some hardcore jobs (ie surviving across the desert to deliver money to avoid attention from cops and drinking his own pee to survive). He is powerful and influential enough in the criminal underworld to be taken seriously and even rich enough hire goons and hitmen.

[@cuturu8724]

Ken reminded me of Sean Penn's character in Carlito's Way, I think that's where Rockstar got their inspiration from

[@playerunkown8699]

@@cuturu8724 yes he is inspired by the movie calitos way Rockstar games like taking stuff from movies

[@CARLJOHNSON-ny8sn]

san Andreas will forever be my favorite gta game so much lore in the 3d universe

[@BrPerera]

I am learning a lot about gta thanks to you. Furthermore I love these stories. Keep up mate

[@gaminginvestigators]

We are glad that our videos are valuable to you 🙂

[@Thabo78110]

I'm starting to understand Gta Sa even better thanks for the content

[@gaminginvestigators]

Always happy to be of service, my man 😎

[@hh-lf3uy]

The most underrated channel🔥🔥

[@gaminginvestigators]

Thank you for kind words! 🤘

[@c0a.]

Damn, for video to video I’m more interested in this channel haha, awesome work guys!

[@gaminginvestigators]

Welcome to our big family, my man! 😃 Glad you enjoyed our videos, stay tuned for more! 🤘

[@shariqhasan6220]

The GTA franchise would not be the same any more since those that wrote and designed these stories are no longer part of Rockstar. GTA 5 was the last game they worked on. It safe to say GTA 6 if it releases will be totally different storywise compared to older GTAs

[@captaindowntown7851]

Las Venturas was my favourite chapter in the game.

[@RainyWolf7]

People treat me like WuZi when I take off my glasses 🤣

[@kamarienelson6201]

CJ is good… but not the most raw & uncut, ruthless villain/Protagonist.

[@elperrodelautumo7511]

Maybe it was meant to be a set up for failure for maybe of the families to get the advantage in the casino biz in the west coast.

[@gaminginvestigators]

It seems like it 😃

[@SilverNightx1]

Yeah since the moment the deal was purpose it was always going to be a 3 gang deadlock with one group trying to get it all.

[@thewolfinsheepssk1n]

Why do y'all always pronounce things so funny 😂

[@captaindowntown7851]

​@elcactuar3354I thought he was Hispanic.

[@adhazainuddin9461]

Doll House Sindacco & Game house Leone family please investigate this 2 place

[@TEAMYNO]

Thanks for more amazing content

[@gaminginvestigators]

You're welcome! 😄

[@thetruesimplegrid]

So many years and yet GTA vice city, 3, San Andreas and the rest of the 3D games are still better than GTA 4, 5 and most likely 6 (boring Bonnie and Clyde cliché type story) story and lore wise.

[@GrumpyCat97]

yep, 3D era GTA are best

[@the_goatedpro1107]

I think the issue is 4&5 aren’t as connected as the 3d era

[@gaminginvestigators]

We could say that 3D GTAs are better than GTA 5, but GTA 4.. not so sure about that 😉

[@thetruesimplegrid]

@@gaminginvestigators 4 might beat Vice City and 3 in story but not lore and we all know San Andreas is the best 😉 👌🏾. Maybe I never just liked 4 as much 🤔.

[@yourfriendlyneighbor921]

Love those videos

[@gaminginvestigators]

There's even more coming 🤘

[@lancewilson416]

Can you do a video about why there is no gta sa stories rockstar doesn't developed

[@gaminginvestigators]

Sure thing! There will be a video about San Andreas Stories in the future for sure, so stay tuned 🤘

[@Baby_Jay365]

You think GTA 6 Is going back to the 80s bcuz of the 3D Stories?

[@TheBaldNonce]

Probably not. 😪

[@99mrpogi]

GTA 6 is more likely to be a sequel of GTA V assuming that GTA 6 takes place in the same hd universe as GTA 4 and 5

[@captaindowntown7851]

No

[@billysastard-6969]

@@99mrpogiGTA 3 is in the 3D universe. 🤦

[@emperortrevornorton3119]

San Andreas is my 3rd favorite GTA 2 is number 1 and London is number 2

[@gaminginvestigators]

Quite unusual, we definitely respect that! Our podium: 1)GTA 3 and GTA Vice City 2)GTA 4 3)GTA San Andreas

[@orirotem2298]

The syndaco tried to rival the commision ?

[@gaminginvestigators]

Well, pretty much all of them did but to a different extent 😃

[@nathanel-nate9664]

Gta V Could Never

[@bluedan4306]

Is Tenpenny Alive?!

[@Egyptianloverr]

No his corpse is mauled by homeless people

[@bluedan4306]

@@Egyptianloverr how do you know!

[@fredricoagusto871]

Yes he is he's an actor now

[@gaminginvestigators]

According to one of the radio reports on WCTR News, his body was found in devastating condition and stripped by homeless people. It is mentioned that he was in that bad condition that it was hard to identify his body, so yeah.. it's very unlikely he survived. 😃

[@darkskull1808]

Fifth

[@iwillnotcomplyistandformyf6642]

Who honestly cares about this (I'd swear GTA fan base are silly 😂🤣)

[@leith-lukashaddad2867]

U always give good info

[@gaminginvestigators]

Thank you so much, Leith! 🙂

[@vikjacobik]

anyone knows the name of the song in the beggining?

[@gaminginvestigators]

I named this song differently from what it is called, but maybe try shazam ap to find the real name😀