I'm not a cruiser fan but That R12 is one of the best looking cruisers I've seen
@AdventureRockNRoller Жыл бұрын
That R12 looks really appealing. Can’t wait to see it in the flesh. I hope it’s ground clearance in corners though is much improved on the R18
@dgomes265 Жыл бұрын
R12 looks cool and will hopefully appeal yo the cruiser intenders. The R9T is still my favourite retro and prefer the look of existing model.
@kmw300 Жыл бұрын
I love the R12! Since I lost my beloved R1200C in an accident in 2022 and even before I was hoping for a newer and lighter cruiser from BMW and it appears that the R12 is it. I’m really excited and I just hope it will fit me just was well as the R1200C , which felt like Taylor made for me. Both Variants look great, I think. Finally, thank you for making these great Videos, they are very helpful and nice to watch.
@JasonPinhay Жыл бұрын
I also think the older R9T was better looking. That new R12 looks really sharp from the video, gives me vibes of my Moto Guzzi Griso. Too bad they down tuned it, but maybe once tuners get at it, hopefully a flash will give it the full beans.
@ml2799 Жыл бұрын
I saw that r12 cruiser today at the NEC bike show and in my opinion, was the hands down bike of the show for me, as shown here it looked incredible in the flesh.
@sarnbradshaw7382 Жыл бұрын
Did you sit on and try it out for ergo’s?
@56sketch Жыл бұрын
Hard to justify the BMW badge markup but that cruiser is gorgeous
@carlosandleon Жыл бұрын
wait 10 years and get a used one
@larryhouse3776 Жыл бұрын
There's arguably no markup for it being a BMW. What you get and the technology that comes with it is very competitively priced. In many cases you can even see their S1000rr coming in cheaper than a Yamaha R1. And the BMW is more powerful, more premium feeling, and has better technology.
@williamrae9954 Жыл бұрын
Especially on paint prices 😮
@jedw9983 Жыл бұрын
R12 looks fantastic. Can't wait for the review!
@DaveRapier Жыл бұрын
Great details, literally just put money down on a R9T scrambler, thought they might have added power so thank you for making this video, well done.
@manuelaluciani8449 Жыл бұрын
Dude your reviews are immaculate and very well made !!
@mikeogden5256 Жыл бұрын
Oh that cruiser is amazing 😻
@NazirKhambati Жыл бұрын
i am more drawn towards the older R9T but neverthess the new R129T also looks fab...
@ColSnders Жыл бұрын
excellent side by side overview of both new R12 models. Presented in a clearly spoken and easy to understand generic English accent, thank you. Particularly liked that you sat on the bikes to illustrate their relative size. Eagerly waiting for your road test - and the USA release of course.
@gillianbrodie6807 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great video. 😃👍 I really like the R12, (the 719 option) and I prefer the look of the old R nine T. Keep up the good work. 😃
@mrlancekink Жыл бұрын
great review!
@Vegesaurus7 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Bob was waiting for your thoughts on these new bikes. I always look forward to your take. 😊 I love the RnineT and think these are both great successors to the old one. You have to keep moving. I am also surprised by how much I like that R12. Can’t wait to sit on one and see how comfy those ergonomics are. It looks amazing. I’m also surprised how much I like the look of that small digital gauge.
@ronaldthomas9396 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the analog gages myself!
@CorGP Жыл бұрын
I would 100% get one of these over Harley’s new nightster.
@motobob Жыл бұрын
Agreed it looks the better bike 👍
@gmoneymac23 Жыл бұрын
BMW continues to neglect the R1250R model, yet, it's one of their best bikes.
@JasonSmith-dw3vp Жыл бұрын
The R12 is surprisingly appealing
@williamclarke2020 Жыл бұрын
That may be the best all-rounder motorcycle ever. Great power and torque from a reliable motor and now with USD forks. It looks so friggin cool! Especially the all aluminium and red frame of the 719. Solo seat conversion is wicked and I'd opt for the larger fairing instead of the fly screen. I'll have my saddle in a dark brown tan please! Wow! I'm torn between this and the Tiger 900 GT Pro. I know they have different purposes but a guy can dream... As per usual, great reporting!
@BikashDeepharijan-vn4lz Жыл бұрын
Great video sir❤❤❤
@motobob Жыл бұрын
🙏
@MrAndrew1953 Жыл бұрын
Really like the swing arm on the green tank model. Having had 2 Boxers I’d go for the 109 hp.
@david-johntiemens573 Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother! I’m loving the R12. I hate the 19” front and the muted engine… but those looks.
@S2NAZ Жыл бұрын
Finally a seat height I can ride! Can’t wait to test ride it 👍🏻
@posteroonie Жыл бұрын
I find the naked bike riding position more commanding because I have weight on the front wheel and can put weight on my arms. Cruisers may have the "commanding" attitude but steering them is like using a tiller.
@plap. Жыл бұрын
in this day and age everything should have a tachometer.
@haydncolcombe9300 Жыл бұрын
Good to meet you today at Motorcycle Live, you're alot taller in real life 😁👍
@mitchellfox3130 Жыл бұрын
New r9t all day. So much cleaner looking than the outgoing model. Airbox (and I assume) battery in a sensible location. This is a worthy successor. Green, analog gauges and tubeless spoked wheels please (if a suitcase of Franklins was left on my doorstep).
@stewy62 Жыл бұрын
I think I prefer the old R nineT style but it had a good run, I guess it was due a change. I do like the R12 although it’s not really my thing. The price differential is hard to justify but even the old nineT was more expensive than the R1250R which on paper beats it hands down. Go figure ! The BMW video called the bike with a bikini fairing a “Racer” so expect more variants in the future although I’ll be sticking with my old R nineT Racer 🇬🇧
@Vegesaurus7 Жыл бұрын
I think the difference between R9T and r1250r is the build. One have more attention to details and fir and finish one is just a practical bike. At least that’s the way I looked at it. What I find hard is choosing which I prefer. Do I want comfort or cool…
@stewy62 Жыл бұрын
@@Vegesaurus7 I prefer the air/oil cooled engine (for reasons that are not logical) and the heritage style but the new R nineT is £2,090 more than the R1250R in the UK and £1,280 more than the R1250RS. Your point about build quality is well made but equally the £2,430 difference between the R nineT and the R12 I find hard to justify, and it’s only £570 less than the old R1250GS.
@Vegesaurus7 Жыл бұрын
Yep those are great points. From what I hear the r1250 r, rs and gs are a lot more comfortable to ride. I guess you really have to want the style of the RnineT
@paulred158 Жыл бұрын
I’m totally not a cruiser person as I have older Italian sports bikes but the cruiser is a very elegant bike.
@tommydogsdad11 ай бұрын
I am so looking forward to the r12 in America! This is top of my list of bikes to potentially purchase this year.
@javiervar494 Жыл бұрын
Good couple of bikes for new year. Good review 👍
@M3ANDER Жыл бұрын
Great introduction again - thank you! Even though I don't prefer neither of this types of bike, both look great to me! Did you mention that both are equiped with a steering damper?
@motobob Жыл бұрын
No fair point. Surprised the R12 needs it being so raked out
@aluminati9918 Жыл бұрын
Frankly, both bikes look amazing! Well done, BMW.
@coboisarapatanas Жыл бұрын
BMW R12 take my money
@marcusgeorge1825 Жыл бұрын
Nice one Bob. Thank you. I’d take the RS version from team green.
@Jon_Yale10 ай бұрын
I can't wait for your road review on this bike mate. Any idea when that's coming?
@AMDP65 Жыл бұрын
The best boxer engine ever - the 1200 twincam aircooled. Bring back a R1200GS air cooled with basic ABS as an alternative to the finicky 1300cc LC!
@Stickybutton Жыл бұрын
How can they omit the Akrapovic exhausts?
@nickbetts2244 Жыл бұрын
Looks really good. The build quality looks great. 👌
@pistolpete6321 Жыл бұрын
Great video, both look good to me!
@GaryFackler Жыл бұрын
I like the new Nine T .... especially in the green color scheme. Three questions: 1) Does the optional digital dash include a fuel level gauge, 2) Is the optional bikini fairing available in the green color, and 3) Is an optional center stand available this year? Thanks. Nice reporting.
@jays9211 Жыл бұрын
All good questions
@aidens04 Жыл бұрын
Love both of those. Beautiful
@charlesbradley2943 Жыл бұрын
Did they finally add a bloody gas gauge ?
@pixelmixture3067 Жыл бұрын
italians are allready building tiny bikes ... germans should think of more than 6 feet drivers ... we want a 9T scrambler for tall people !
@DucatiDiaries Жыл бұрын
Agreed fully
@VelkePivo Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Motobob looks big on the bike and I’m much taller. Then again, judging from BMW’s ad, most of these bikes are purchased by free spirited, untamable bad-ass women, so maybe small is the way to go.
@Scouse.Malinois Жыл бұрын
I disagree. What do want straight legs on a bike? It's a normal sized bike probably mt09 size. Is it just that your really fat or something?
@paulred158 Жыл бұрын
lol you tall guys already have the entire adv market, what else do you want.😀
@pixelmixture3067 Жыл бұрын
@@Scouse.Malinois there's a middle point between straight legs and 100° bent knees ...
@bernardlesperance74211 ай бұрын
Love the R 12 ! . . . At least based on the promo pics and videos. Can't wait to see one at my local BMW Motorrad . . . and hopefully be able to test ride it . . . and . . . just maybe give my Sportster 1200 a new companion !
@naarealy Жыл бұрын
Looks great! As an owner of the old RnineT, I was hoping they would go retro-futuristic with the new model. Most of the modern styled BMWs look strange to me.
@AndyObern Жыл бұрын
Does the new r12ninet come with a fuel gauge this time? It’s a lovely looking bike and I would have considered one but when you have added a few extras to r12ninet you are looking close to 16k, out of my price.
@FourIntoOne Жыл бұрын
I dunno, ride modes called "rock" and "roll" sound like an overdose of Americana cheese to me.....
@motobob Жыл бұрын
Haha well yes there is that! Don’t love those names either… but the looks of the physical bike are good imo
@Krebs6110 ай бұрын
Got the now old nineT for years now... Waiting for a test drive at the dealer RN, the old bike is awesome, wanna try the new one before I press buy.
@daionsavage10 ай бұрын
My guess is that they are equal in ”fun” factor. But the new one looks gorgeous! (I ride a 2016 Pure: raw as anything and basic to the bone, but the rush I get from taking it through a twisty road is immense!)
@43tubularbells Жыл бұрын
Great video! I love the R12. I am hopeful but not optimistic that they will offer nice looking, locking hard bags for it.
@deandias51986 ай бұрын
Would love to see the full review of this bike
@terryclair2914 Жыл бұрын
Still in love with my 21' R9T Urban GS Bumblebee. It would be a hard bike to replace!
@ukvamp Жыл бұрын
any signs of a fuel gauge?
@xu10j4rs111 ай бұрын
R12 looks great and I’d definitely keep the analogue dials! Digi looks better than most digi dashes though
@esr24311 ай бұрын
You’re a fine reviewer
@leominus9758 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, i'v aways liked the look of the r9t but don't like the retro gage's & now that little TFT dash looks really good
@coreytravisbean Жыл бұрын
I've got the R9t, never been a super big cruiser fan because they all kinda look the same, but this one catches my eye.
@samhill3496 Жыл бұрын
Good job. Good vid. Fuel gauge ?
@johnhinds6540 Жыл бұрын
Great review! Question: does the R12NineT finally include a fuel gauge? (p.s. prefer the clocks, thank you!)
@amandacatherine793 Жыл бұрын
I would have preferred the TFT as a modular add-on to the analog gauges… I certainly hope there is a fuel gauge. I think a decade is long enough to wait for basic fare.
@kawajocb1685 Жыл бұрын
Loved the Bikes. ❤
@kingdave250 Жыл бұрын
Can‘t wait to see the R12 GS Dakar Style
@Nils_Martin Жыл бұрын
I had the old R nineT when they first come out, and i absolutely love it. I think this new one looks pretty damn interesting..!! 🤙🏼
@willswanson2145 Жыл бұрын
I loved my 9t. The one thing I don’t like about the new style is the length of the tank, I don’t like seeing all the wiring exposed up where the neck of the frame is. I do like that the removed the snorkel, but everything else I liked better about the old.
@a99miata Жыл бұрын
love to see a R100RT version of this new tech
@Force-Majeure Жыл бұрын
Not in my price range, plus I´m addicted to Moto Guzzi BUT these bikes look fabulous
@Jacob99174 Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on speed twin 1200?
@msd85TvT Жыл бұрын
That cruiser could be stretched out a bit bit elongating and increasing the seat a bit. Might make it a better cruiser
@matts.1758 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the scrambler/gs version
@martyn_g Жыл бұрын
If you dig the boxer/shaft drive configuration, it’s hard to go back to a chain driven bike, I reckon.
@bfarm44 Жыл бұрын
Love that green myself
@geoffball9547 Жыл бұрын
Strangely the R12 has some chops!
@PaulA-e9f Жыл бұрын
Is there finally a fuel gauge?
@mikephillips3947 Жыл бұрын
The r12 cruiser is a lovely looking bike, where can I get some merchandise from, enjoy your weekend 👍👍👍
@brianharradine8130 Жыл бұрын
Latest R9T in green is the way to go
@RocnerdSA Жыл бұрын
I prefer the old tank
@vamshikishan7822 Жыл бұрын
Does it have tubless tyres coz in the previous model it was tubed 🤔
@motobob Жыл бұрын
Yes I believe the spoked wheel upgrades are tubeless 👍
@vamshikishan7822 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info i hope those who were thinking to buy will be happy to know 😀 and it would be a pain if it were to be tubed again if there was a puncher✌️
@eramusmotovlog Жыл бұрын
How tall are you?
@jameshicks874210 ай бұрын
I would love to know if they added a fuel gauge! I am leaning more towards a Triumph Bonneville T120
@williamrae9954 Жыл бұрын
Like the new Yamaha MT09,I'm seeing a BMW flattracker there....love that green paint on the other one though!
@philelsey7639 Жыл бұрын
They are gorgeous
@n22pdf Жыл бұрын
I owned an older version when they were first released.. I think the new versions look much nicer well done BMW. It's a shame they changed lowered the power so much on the other version. Pete
@danielgielchinsky6951 Жыл бұрын
R12 hearkens back to the R1200C? Both bikes featured here are beautiful.
@SPSteve11 ай бұрын
I really like the R12. When I was looking for a new bike two years ago (I bought a Moto Guzzi V7 Special) I looked at the R nineT but I didn't like the rear modern sport bike styling. I would have bought the new R12 with its more traditional styling and rear fender.
@suppersready4you Жыл бұрын
They are both really nice bikes I always have been a boxer fanatic and maybe next season I'll give the Ninet a try I do prefer the previous cylinder head look Thanks Bob for taking the time to do all these reviews Ride safe Marcelo Great job!
@linopontes Жыл бұрын
12k and 14k... suddenly a 2nd hand MT-09 SP or 890r are going to be even better deals.
Жыл бұрын
Here in PT the price for the new nineT starts now on 19.2k€. as the other "lower" versions will be descontinued... THis thing will tank. at least for now...
@stewy62 Жыл бұрын
Do you still have a Racer ? 🇬🇧
Жыл бұрын
@@stewy62 I never got to buy it. Crisis happened and in less than a month I had lost in value the money to buy 2 of those. :D... still waiting on a recovery... but now, I would get me a V100 Mandelo... In the meanwhile, still happy with my w650 cafe racer that I built myself.
@stewy62 Жыл бұрын
@ That is a shame, I have my Racer but I can see you have a very good taste in motorcycles !
@乱乱-y3u Жыл бұрын
I wander if the digtal display can fit in the 2017 version r ninet😂 I love the bike but I hate the shaking clocks!
@tompGA Жыл бұрын
Issue is that this is still the old Oil Head engine that was in the GS's 2009-2012 and is unchanged. Also has a dry clutch that is positioned at the back of the engine. Any service on that clutch means breaking the bike in half.
@GIGABACHI Жыл бұрын
Clutch AND rear main seal ! 🤪
@thejohnnerparty Жыл бұрын
I like the look of the 719 pkg, but I think I like the R nine T styling better.
@johnDukemaster Жыл бұрын
What's the knob on the right hand side? Under the tank, over the cylinder. I like the one with the biggest pricetag, of course. But out of reach for me, I'm afraid.
@speaktruth247 Жыл бұрын
I really dislike how that engine sticks out to the sides
@enrage6073Ай бұрын
Is this an order from BMW that no vlog or reports must show a 6ft+ male rider on their new R12? This bike came out for nearly a year ago and is only shown ridden by women of smaller size which looks good indeed but how about tall riders? We want to see
@88davidw Жыл бұрын
Love the R12. The nineT doesn’t look as good as the old one.
@problemslayer3538 Жыл бұрын
Still wondering when yamaha are going to put something into the retro cruiser market. The bolt 950 or xv 950 as its known in uk isn't really cutting it. They need a retro bruiser like the ducati daivel
@glen2332 Жыл бұрын
Have they put a fuel gauge on it this time?
@Calin_Sanchez Жыл бұрын
Great bikes. Great video. I was going to sub but I already was 😂
@lautelaumbanua5875 Жыл бұрын
pls do small cc bikes
@BugsyZuki Жыл бұрын
Haven't seen steering dumper, is it there?
@kikoy08 Жыл бұрын
Digital Display as an option? What does BMW intends to point, that there will be optional handlebar next time?😂😂😂