NEW Affordable 12 Volt Air Conditioner for Vans, RVs, Overlanding - Velit Camping

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Mathers On The Map

Mathers On The Map

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@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
The video testing the Velit 12v AC is live! Using it in Mexico: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaHOYmCwnMmrl7Msi=iAkTMYQqMPY9QGFi Technical review Check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3rJmZZsnJedZpo What do you think of the Velit 12v AC Unit? Now that the weather is starting to get warmer I'll be able to do a detailed test for you guys. Also, get $50 off the Velit AC with coupon MOTM Our Electrical System: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXTaqayud7BoiMk What do you think of the Velit 12v AC Unit? Now that the weather is starting to get warmer I'll be able to do a detailed test for you guys. Also, get $50 off the Velit AC with coupon MOTM Check out our other van-build episodes: kzbin.info/aero/PLfHkUGUkCAgzxf-EkF3-0foL8WLZecptt
@vangogh777
@vangogh777 Жыл бұрын
All 12V systems have one thing going for them: ease of use/install. All low-voltage (12-48) systems have one thing working against them: current, which translates to low(er) efficiency.
@ma1375
@ma1375 2 ай бұрын
Haha. The price. Im just going get a jackery box $600 and a $300 home depot home unit. And run the little tube thing out a window. 8 minute install. No cutting
@Nacho-voyage
@Nacho-voyage 2 ай бұрын
Inglés I installed the Openair 12 V from bergstrom two months ago and I'm delighted! The best purchase I could have made for my motorhome. I can finally enjoy the Summer with my Motorhome or the South of the country
@kingbee3
@kingbee3 Жыл бұрын
First of all, great series so far. I’m a bit behind, this video is 3 months old, but we’re currently planning our next build and KZbin seems to know that. 😬 The whole idea of an AC unit in an “off grid” van is interesting and unfortunately fraught with a whole lot of misleading marketing. The fact is, it takes a ton of power to chill air, regardless of whether the power is 12 volts or 120 volts or a bunch of squirrels spinning the compressor. That’s just how the universe works. It’s definitely true that eliminating the need to run an inverter saves a bit or power- the inverter has its own overhead. But still, the three most common 12v AC units draw from 696 to 864 watts on high. That’s a lot of power. Take the Velit for example: they say max draw 60 amps or 720 watts at 12 volts. That would give it an EER of over 11, which is extremely good, maybe unbelievably good. 😉But let’s take their word for it. That means that, on a scorcher of a day, starting with a 100% SOC battery bank of 540 AH, or 6480 WH, the AC would flatten the bank in 9 hours, with nothing else running. Sure, solar will add some of it back, but you’d need to be harvesting an avearage of 720 watts the whole time it’s running, just to keep up, which means realistically an 800-900 watt array. Tough to fit on a van. But without replacing what you take out, you’re just going downhill. Of course, it really has a lot to do with your style of travel. If you’re driving every day or two, it may be fine. If your idea of “off grid” means running a generator, then no problem. And of course, plug-in camping renders all these considerations moot. I’ll admit, there are time I’ve wished I had AC in our van, and maybe our next van will have it (if Ford ever gets around to building it 😂). But if you’re considering it make sure you do the math and have reasonable expectations. Don’t just assume that just because it’s 12 volts it magically uses no power. Regarding the Mabru unit mentioned: the specs on the website would give their unit an EER of 16. 😮 12 is considered extremely high, what the best residential mini splits achieve. So take their claims with a grain of salt. Keep up the good work guys!
@evil17
@evil17 Жыл бұрын
Agree, my only real caveat to that is I think ur being generous with the amount of solar you can ever expect to harvest from flat mounted roof PV even if he had the realestate for it, I think he will need to upgrade the alternator & run the vehicle AC to help reduce the load on 12v AC while charging the batteries simultaneously, trouble with that is the engine heat adds a lot more load to the AC’s as it is running and blowing hot air all under & around the van, bit of a catch 22 effect.
@annahpaquentin6047
@annahpaquentin6047 Жыл бұрын
We have used the kzbin.infoUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y for probably 30 hours with our camper and it’s been great! The noise level is really only noticeable when running the AC and other appliances like the microwave, hair dryer, or coffee pot. It’s not huge like other ones and it has wheels so even at 90lbs, I can move it!
@kariandchuck
@kariandchuck Жыл бұрын
We just pre-ordered a pretty, black one for the next shipment in April and used your code. Thanks for the video and $50 off!
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
You got it guys!!!
@radreaxnoh4038
@radreaxnoh4038 Жыл бұрын
be great if they could configure it for the sunroof of a Dodge 3500 for hotshot drivers.
@gailjohnson6670
@gailjohnson6670 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. Blessings to you.
@Gibbowr80
@Gibbowr80 Жыл бұрын
Purchased the VELIT with the promo code - Thank you 😊
@jjjacer
@jjjacer Жыл бұрын
Although Affordable is still a broad term, for me it would be far from it, the van i would want to add it to cost me half as much as the A/C unit and my budget pretty much limits me to whatever i can find second hand (looking for a portable house A/C unit under $200, as my inverter is big enough to run a small one). But i will say that one is one of the cheaper rooftop ones ive seen.
@WhereRVGoing
@WhereRVGoing Жыл бұрын
We're debating if to replace our old energy sucking roof AC, let me know if you really like your Velit?
@teddsupermann
@teddsupermann Жыл бұрын
Can I install ac unit with curved front facing the rear. This will avoid having to cut ceiling support rib for ram promaster 2500. Not the extended base. Ty. I can install a separate wind faring if needed. Your opinion. ?? Ty my friend.
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! I wouldn’t do that but I’d be curious if it works!
@tomgreen5701
@tomgreen5701 Жыл бұрын
Rec-pro is a another 12 AC 12 volt. $2650.0
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
I hear ya! I wasn’t familiar but after looking it up looks like it’s the most powerful at a good price per BTU but too overkill for a van
@tomgreen5701
@tomgreen5701 Жыл бұрын
@@MathersOnTheMap going in a big school bus
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
That’ll be perfect!!!
@michaelscarfi3196
@michaelscarfi3196 Жыл бұрын
Don’t be too quick to say overkill. I have a pro air 18000 in my 170 and in the sun in 90 degree weather it’s just ok. I really like it for when you go in a store or out for dinner when you leave the van and you come back and it’s not an oven in the van. In the sun your using 100 amp hours per hour so in reality it’s only optimum for nighttime. Look into a 100 amp buckboost so when your down to 100 amps in the morning you can charge as fast as possible or better yet get a second alternator. Solar just won’t cut it for AC. By the way you can find the sos 🆘 fix on KZbin. I haven’t tried it yet but it looks easy
@longtimber1
@longtimber1 Жыл бұрын
Upgrade to 48V. I squared r losses are just too high. 12V is a nightmare.
@kimmer6
@kimmer6 Жыл бұрын
Cars and vans don't come with 48 volt alternators.
@rnordquest
@rnordquest Жыл бұрын
@@kimmer6 not for cars but you can add a 48v 2nd alternator to vans and trucks.
@kimmer6
@kimmer6 Жыл бұрын
@@rnordquest Its an expensive waste of time going to 48 volts on a vehicle for the power system. The cable runs are very short on van 12 volt systems so using 4/0 or 2/0 cable to the inverter is not expensive. There are combination charge controllers for 12 volt systems to limit current from the alternator to lifep04 batteries and also act as a MPPT charge controller for solar panels. That way you don't cook your alternator if the battery bank is at low charge. There are a ton of 12 volt DC appliances and fridges that don't need to go through an inverter with its losses. Where do you buy 48 volt appliances? My motorhome has 12 volt lithium batteries 800 amp hours, 10,000 watt hours, 4000 watt psw inverter. My combo MPPT charge controller between the engine alternator is 60 amp and there are 600 watts of panels on the roof. The fridge, furnace, fans, and Chinese diesel heater are all 12 volt DC. No inverter losses. I see 80 to 100% state of charge except when I run the AC a lot. It's overkill and I do not worry about electrical losses. Besides, 12 volt components are everywhere and you can get replacements from eBay and Amazon in 3 days. Not so easy with 48 volt stuff. I am not against 48 vdc but really, in a vehicle? My home bank is 48 volts, 7500 amp hours, 96,000 watt hours with 12kw split phase inverter charger. There's a smaller 24 volt system backup with a pair of 3kw high frequency inverters and a 6kw split phase inverter charger and 3600 amp hours of batteries. It's enough to power my clock radio for a while.
@rnordquest
@rnordquest Жыл бұрын
@@kimmer6 I was thinking 48V for AC with 48V worth of panels. Maybe that's not the best solution. 12V stuff would stay the same. The efficiency of 48V is simply better for inverter and alternator. Well according to Balmar anyway.
@kimmer6
@kimmer6 Жыл бұрын
@@rnordquest For stationary home backup power, a 48 volt system is the way to go. Some all in one inverter charger units with built in charge controllers can take up to 600 volt solar input. But on a vehicle such as a motorhome, 12 volt based components are readily available. cheap, reliable. Nobody really cares about losses and the batteries, inverter, charge controllers are all in close proximity. Price a Balmar alternator. My 24 volt unit on my boat was almost $2000 and needed their external regulator. On a vehicle, there is rarely enough room to add an additional alternator and the work has to be custom fabricated. That's expensive work. Thanks to car audio enthusiasts, there are many direct replacement alternators in 12 volt configuration that output 200 amps and more. I have a motorhome, boat, and house solar/battery bank inverter systems and built them myself from components. I recall buying a replacement Renogy 12 volt 3000 watt inverter in Flagstaff for my motorhome. I got it shipped the next day to a restaurant with the manager's permission and was on my way across country to Vermont with very little delay. Now I carry a spare inverter, charge controller that will take 150 volt solar input from my 800 watts in solar panels, and a 60 amp DC to DC charge controller to limit my alternator charge current to the 600 amp hour lithium battery bank. Now that I have spares, I'll probably never need them.
@coldfusionj9751
@coldfusionj9751 2 ай бұрын
Weird when explaining ac dc on air conditioning that in short we call an ac , this is not an ac ac , this is a a dc this ac
@douglaswindsor120
@douglaswindsor120 Жыл бұрын
So why on earth didn't they make them reversible AC in summer and heat in spring and fall when are these companies finally going green my guess is not until government's outlaw AC only heat pumps it's interesting that everyone hates government regulations but companies won't change without it
@DankTank374
@DankTank374 Жыл бұрын
Bro calls an 1800 dollar ac affordable 🤑
@Utahdesertrat222
@Utahdesertrat222 6 ай бұрын
Everyone one of these i watch doesn't test it in the summer, say what the outdoor temp is or say their van size.
@badactor3440
@badactor3440 Жыл бұрын
A far better option for a van, would be a Midea window unit ($379). Wifi and Alexa capabilities and nearly 1/5 the cost.
@sesolar5854
@sesolar5854 Жыл бұрын
I recently saw a 5k but Midea window unit at Walmart for
@robertberin4872
@robertberin4872 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to install it in the window... or maybe I'll take the thing apart and put it throught the back window of my pickup. Only thing is I got to recharge it with freon once I cut the pipes.
@KennLes-rr4ey
@KennLes-rr4ey Жыл бұрын
Love my Velit. First night, my 300 aH BB used 18% for Approx. 7 hours, outside temp 84-60F. Very well insulated 159EXT.
@khaldahmed8977
@khaldahmed8977 2 ай бұрын
Where did you buy it I have semi truck I need one can you send me the link please
@ma1375
@ma1375 2 ай бұрын
Haha. The price. Im just going get a jackery box $600 and a $300 home depot home unit. And run the little tube thing out a window. 8 minute install. No cutting
@caseystankowski158
@caseystankowski158 Жыл бұрын
Also, great timing for this video. Installing a 12V AC this spring on our van. I was going to go with the Dometic RTX 2000, however after watching this, I think I will be going with the Velit. Thanks!
@lorie6401
@lorie6401 Жыл бұрын
Was wondering can the AC run on fan only mode so I don’t have to get another fan?
@drocktsmith
@drocktsmith 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Been trying to figure out what AC to upgrade with on the camper, now I've a good list to work from. Cheers!
@richardhenry1969
@richardhenry1969 Жыл бұрын
This is just ridiculous. A simple window unit with a soft start will do everything. 5000btu will cool a van no problem. Even better a split would be better. The price of these units are insane. Only on KZbin do people spend thousands for something you can do cheaper. My experience most people in vans don’t have thousands to spend. That AC cost more then I paid for my van. 😊
@cferdinandi
@cferdinandi Жыл бұрын
Mabru (a marine AC vendor) now makers a 12v rooftop AC for van lifers and RVs. 12k BTU with a 30-55 amp draw. They recommend 500ah of lithium for an approximately 8-10 of run time (assuming no other load on the batteries, which is of course unrealistic). At the lowest draw, 300ah would last up to 10 hours, but realistically you'd want more than to have a safety margin and to account for other things pulling on the battery (fridge, lights, etc.) at night.
@larrymichelson
@larrymichelson Жыл бұрын
Nice work, Alan!
@chrisgrob8812
@chrisgrob8812 Жыл бұрын
​. Wrong on RV amp draw. Compressor alone pulls 9-10amps when in the 90's. BLOWER motor on high pulls another 2.75 amps
@cferdinandi
@cferdinandi Жыл бұрын
@@chrisgrob8812 Is this in response to me or @jeffreygman
@opelwasp
@opelwasp 3 ай бұрын
An only for a steep price, $5,800.
@cferdinandi
@cferdinandi 3 ай бұрын
@@opelwasp Unless they recently upped the price, it's closer to $3k, but that's still a lot more per watt than an AC powered one.
@marflebark2865
@marflebark2865 Жыл бұрын
Wait, 1,600$ DC AC, that's considered affordable? to who, people who can afford to buy a 200k$ sprinter van to convert? I make 50k/year, I cant afford 1600$ for an AC. Yall are out of touch with the majority of RV/Van life folks. we dont have that kind of money to throw on anything without it hitting hard, or taking away from something else we could easily use.
@timjchick
@timjchick Жыл бұрын
It’s considerably less than the other 12v models currently offered. The prices will continue to come down over time.
@maricotodiz4475
@maricotodiz4475 5 ай бұрын
I agree with you totally!!!! A lot people going to this life to avoid rent.
@maricotodiz4475
@maricotodiz4475 5 ай бұрын
Recpro. $1,200 and I think is already a lot
@danieldebarr4221
@danieldebarr4221 4 ай бұрын
@@maricotodiz4475recpro requires so much more power than this. Like 3000watts and 30amps
@EitanTsur
@EitanTsur 4 ай бұрын
What about the Eco flow that's like $500?
@adventureroadtrippers
@adventureroadtrippers Жыл бұрын
We're in South Florida where AC is a must. We installed a 12v AC that was only $700 and can run it all night at 70F with only 400ah batteries and it uses about 25% of that. Glad you found this one; there aren't many options for affordable units on the market.
@JCVerseTv
@JCVerseTv Жыл бұрын
That is awesome! In South Florida as well and looking to hook up the same in my van build.
@dannyh23222
@dannyh23222 Жыл бұрын
Hey Adventure Roadtrippers. What is the brand and model of the ac you installed?
@oci464
@oci464 Жыл бұрын
What unit !!!!
@anobody5708
@anobody5708 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a link to the AC unit you are referring to?
@danieloliva505
@danieloliva505 Жыл бұрын
Hi what brand
@oncenterline
@oncenterline Жыл бұрын
Perhaps testing the unit before you attempt installing it is a good idea? lol Or enjoy the experience of installing, and removing, the unit should you ever get one that is DOA?
@robertstorms3469
@robertstorms3469 Жыл бұрын
You’re not wrong, but these days pre-install inspection comes down to this: Is the box banged up? No: Install it. If it looks sketchy? Maybe bench testing is a good idea. In any case, whatever roof AC you install is going to use that same 14” square hole.
@paulturner3553
@paulturner3553 Жыл бұрын
Do not plug into the vehicle cigarette lighter socket if you do not want to replace the socket. Best to go directly to the battery for high current demand portable air conditioning or electric heating device.
@hoprioblector1070
@hoprioblector1070 3 ай бұрын
This is a very fair and practical suggestion. Thank you for sharing.👍
@Scrambler85
@Scrambler85 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison video. I think ac is a necessity for Summers in the southern half of the USA. I run a mini split AC in my van, I think you should be able to run your ac overnight with no problem. I ran mine 24/7 all summer without shore power. 👍
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jackie! I would definitely agree, I remember coming home from Baja, we were in the Florida Panhandle in mid may and it was getting too humid/hot for us.
@vsp3c
@vsp3c Жыл бұрын
How much solar and battery do you have to run the mini split 24/7?
@Scrambler85
@Scrambler85 Жыл бұрын
@@vsp3c 1,200 watts of solar panels and 900 amp hours of lithium batteries. The mini split is run on the economy setting
@ericcramer9858
@ericcramer9858 Жыл бұрын
What kind of mini split did you use j.g.?
@Scrambler85
@Scrambler85 Жыл бұрын
@@ericcramer9858 a Pioneer 9,000 btu mini, it's a middle of the pack unit. A19.5 seer rating. Some are as high as 33 seer now.
@james10739
@james10739 Жыл бұрын
Damn that is not that affordable I assume they are more efficient but you can get an 8000 btu window unit for like $400 and spend a little bit on more batteries and solar and plan on a bigger inverter
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
Batteries, solar, and inverters are expensive too so it’s not apples to apples
@robertberin4872
@robertberin4872 Жыл бұрын
​@@MathersOnTheMap 1 450 watt panel is $250 and 1 2k watt inverter is $200 so $450 + $400= $850
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
@@robertberin4872 not sure where ya got those prices but that sounds like a steal! However I’d go with at least 3,000 watt inverter plus you need additional battery capacity. Need to take account that you’re going to be running multiple appliances in addition to the AC in a real world scenario, charging laptops or tv’s etc. also need to consider the additional space for the extra batteries, plus where you would put a window unit practically. Every inch of wall space is extremely valuable
@TheHummingbirdBus
@TheHummingbirdBus Жыл бұрын
It’s summer now how’s that AC working? FOLLOW UP VIDEO ?
@matthewsoto8114
@matthewsoto8114 Жыл бұрын
Does it drip water from condensation?
@ciprodriguez
@ciprodriguez 4 ай бұрын
Didn't even turn it on. Did he?
@evil17
@evil17 Жыл бұрын
Nice job & install. I dont know why with a little more engineering they dont add a reversing valve so you can heat when needed as well, it would make them a lot more versatile for hot or cold climates. Look forward to seeing updates on how this all works out. Cheers
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
That would be amazing!!! I’m sure that will be available soon
@Handirifle
@Handirifle Жыл бұрын
Probably because a propane furnace is about 1/10 the price and 5-10 times more efficient.
@evil17
@evil17 Жыл бұрын
@@Handirifle reversing valves cost is very small & compressor based heat pumps are the most efficient way to move heat in or out of a room. Heat pumps are 2.5 to 4 times more efficient at heating a room than electric resistive elements, gas, oil & fuel based heating systems.
@dskains
@dskains Жыл бұрын
and dont forget the inexpensive chinese diesel heaters.
@hywaywolf
@hywaywolf Жыл бұрын
Yo, got a real world question. Have you checked to see what the actual dBs are when the compressor is running? My coleman sounds like I am parked next to a busy airport runway and people say its only putting out 57 dBs. The listing for this says its 60 dB
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
It's not bad, we're creating a test video, and ill see if I can test the sound.
@sw6188
@sw6188 Жыл бұрын
decibels is just 'dB', never dBs because any suffix after dB then specifies a reference.
@CamAuthentic
@CamAuthentic Жыл бұрын
Waiting for you to do a bench test on this unit running low vs high. I read somewhere it runs 20a on low. Will order this as soon as I get confirmation. It’s a $1,300 savings over dometic RTX2000 after mounting Kit, & wiring.
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
Need warm weather to test!!! May take some time
@CamAuthentic
@CamAuthentic Жыл бұрын
@@MathersOnTheMap completely understand. Just bought my conversion truck & getting things in order for spring.
@abelincoln3261
@abelincoln3261 Жыл бұрын
More like at least 600 amp hours with at least a 400 watt array with at least 5 hours of good sun per day when using .. This would be my minimum suggestion for a setup that can be reliable and functional
@roversberg
@roversberg 2 ай бұрын
so 6kwh in batteries..then you need at least 5 to 6 solarpanels on your van to be offgrid and us e the ac for 8hrs a night...where do you put those panels? or do you aldo run every day a small generator for a few hours..
@mjremy2605
@mjremy2605 Жыл бұрын
Why is everyone so stressed out about AC's? Of course you need one! Just install a generator in the van, get a larger van so you can, and run your AC all you want. Gens' make noise, so park where it does not matter, run your AC as long as you like, add extra gas to your tank and no further issue. If you have to overload your van with battery banks, solar, inverters, etc, you might as well get a generator and the weight will probably be less. It recharges batteries fast too. You pay for gas or diesel, but its not a big deal. This way you can park in the shade, run the genny all night and have your van like an icebox and sleep well. PLEASE, NO MUSIC!!!! PLEASE, NO MUSIC!!!! PLEASE, NO MUSIC!!!! PLEASE, NO MUSIC!!!! PLEASE, NO MUSIC!!!! The music NOISE in background is driving me nuts. Why do you add music? It is horrible. Do not add music. It ruins the content. So ridiculous to add extra noise while you are speaking, or force the viewer to turn volume knob on and off repeatedly for the videos where music comes on in segments between voice.. Good god! Just why??????!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unwatchable. I'm leaving. Unsubscribed. My ears are hurting two mins into the video.
@xacoklamon
@xacoklamon 28 күн бұрын
The way his neighbor is bundled up, it looks cold. He would die walking around with a jacket like that here in AZ. As far as the A/C, that's the advantage of an electric R/V. If Rivian made a R1S Overland edition, just put it in Camp mode. People who plan to live in their RVs are more worried about the cost to operate and maintain than range.
@HighCountryRambler
@HighCountryRambler 3 ай бұрын
Can any of these support a RV with ducted AC, where ducts run front to back of ceiling? Thinking of swapping the huge 120v roof unit for something like this, but it's ducted.
@renzo9689
@renzo9689 Жыл бұрын
Awsome videos! My wife bought this A/C for her van after watching your video. Have you found a cover in order to keep the snow and leaves out of the unit during the off season? Thanks and cheers from Nova Scotia✌️
@gabriellombera7370
@gabriellombera7370 Ай бұрын
Hi. I want to know if you connect the ac direct to the battery on some where else. ? I need to know because we’re going to Baja too. Thanks. Or do you think if I buy I 115 w ac can I run it with 4 batteries and 5000 watts inverter . And for how long.? Thanks
@darnelltabor6382
@darnelltabor6382 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like people want $200 walmart window unit prices....but that's not the world we live in currently.
@DougJohns
@DougJohns 5 ай бұрын
I stumbled on your posting here while looking for a 12 volt mini split A/C unit which is about 1/2 of what you are promoting here but I wonder the difference hmmm
@cheefpacquiao7854
@cheefpacquiao7854 4 ай бұрын
this aint affordable $1600??? what fucken world are you living in bruh?
@ABlindHilbily
@ABlindHilbily Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a long term review and if you have had any issues. Customer service experience, ECT...
@villabetancur
@villabetancur Жыл бұрын
Hola soy de Colombia dónde puedo conseguir ese aire acondicionado gracias
@luisvaldes8945
@luisvaldes8945 Жыл бұрын
Code(código para ahorrar $50dolares...MOTM50..espero te sirva,
@kenjohnson3412
@kenjohnson3412 Жыл бұрын
A helpful and interesting video that would have been better without the repetitive, unnecessary and annoying background music.
@sleeplespsycho
@sleeplespsycho 2 ай бұрын
Im guessing the word "affordable" depends on a person income. To me, this is a little high.
@silaslongshot941
@silaslongshot941 Жыл бұрын
Was just a matter of time before 12v AC units were available, just like 12v fridge units. If our standard AC unit ever expires, will replace with one of these.
@kalef1234
@kalef1234 Жыл бұрын
Why? Is it more efficient to bypass the inverter at the cost of materials needed to run 12V appliances?
@silaslongshot941
@silaslongshot941 Жыл бұрын
@@kalef1234 Currently if you're boondocking, running only on batteries & solar unless you have a MASSIVE panel & battery array, improved inverter, etc, you are not running AC or microwave. If only needing 12v, much smaller panel & battery setup needed.
@kalef1234
@kalef1234 Жыл бұрын
@@silaslongshot941 I'm shooting for 1000 watts of solar and a 24V 280ah lithium bank. So about 7kWh nominal of storage with an efficient Victron inverter. Hoping that's enough for 500W ac unit in really hot days
@davebean2886
@davebean2886 5 ай бұрын
Are there window style 12 volt air conditioners that may be appropriate to use with solar without running through one or two inverters? Thanks.
@matthewhartman1653
@matthewhartman1653 Жыл бұрын
Great timing for this video, we are at similar points in our build- just installed my roof rack on Monday (in the cold SJ weather) This looks like a great product, I was considering the Dometic unit until I saw this. I have a 144 so trying to conserve space on the top, did you look into the other AC unit they have coming out that mounts inside?
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
Thanks Matthew! I believe that have an inside unit as well, maybe reach out to them and see what they recommend? I think that unit is less powerful as the roof top unit though.
@fboest
@fboest Жыл бұрын
too bad those roof AC units are so damn huge. Someone should build 12V AC unit what can be installed inside (under bed etc)
@stanleybest8833
@stanleybest8833 2 ай бұрын
Air conditioning largely depends on subtleties, to make big comfort and wattage gains.
@century2298
@century2298 Жыл бұрын
You never turned it ON ??? What a waste of 8 minutes.
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
Someone’s a little salty! I turned it on but it was 55 degrees outside in December so couldn’t test anyway
@pizzasaurolophus
@pizzasaurolophus Ай бұрын
this would be a lot more useful if every mention of amperage or amp hours was converted to watts or watt hours.
@patrickday4206
@patrickday4206 5 ай бұрын
There some that can be used as a heat pump or air conditioner they make them for semi trucks for about 800 dollars
@JoseRodriguez-xz7qm
@JoseRodriguez-xz7qm Жыл бұрын
I was wondering would this work on a semi truck?
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
100% just need a battery bank to supple the power
@robertstorms3469
@robertstorms3469 Жыл бұрын
There are options for 12 volt AC for large truck tractors. Using this model featured in the video depends on having space on the roof of your cab. Not just for the 14” square hole, but space on top for the exterior unit, and space inside for the air distribution panel.
@slkgeothermal
@slkgeothermal Жыл бұрын
Please do a followup so we know how it works. I would like to know how much run time you are getting and the noise level when operating. Thanks
@user-qc6yq1jh4j
@user-qc6yq1jh4j 4 ай бұрын
wirh my budget, it would take 20 years before i could afford an ac unit
@adolfoluna4864
@adolfoluna4864 2 ай бұрын
Can you please explain the wires and do you need a additional baterry or just the seme one you use on you car
@breakdownbill1
@breakdownbill1 Жыл бұрын
How does a 12 volt system draw60-80 amps of power I have never heard this. My Bluetti runs 12 volt systems but only to 30 amps
@sw6188
@sw6188 Жыл бұрын
A unit - be it an AC, a fridge, a TV etc will draw as much current as it needs. The bigger the motor and the load on it, the more current it draws.
@Life-ch8rj
@Life-ch8rj Жыл бұрын
$130 window ac unit $400 generator. More versatile
@annrochester8021
@annrochester8021 2 ай бұрын
🤑🤣😂😅🤐 affordable my ass❤ it must be nice to be rich, 1500 is the cheapest, I think that's expensive, he said it's only 1500, not👎
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap 2 ай бұрын
Comparatively to other 12v units it is… it’s all relative
@edwardutter6975
@edwardutter6975 Жыл бұрын
$1,500 is not a affordable anything,unless your rich. I am on a shoestring budget so I will be using fans.
@robertberin4872
@robertberin4872 Жыл бұрын
no u should use a $250/ac or spend ur gas to drive N on your compass. 😂😂
@hiddenghost9200
@hiddenghost9200 Жыл бұрын
Who can install one if I purchase one in socal Orange County thanks
@jerryobrien
@jerryobrien Жыл бұрын
So how did it do?
@tc2425
@tc2425 Жыл бұрын
Bro .....The weight ...how much they weigh in Lbs or Kilos !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@EcoNeato
@EcoNeato 8 ай бұрын
:13 energy is not measured in tons, Einstein!
@DaveSquibbSr
@DaveSquibbSr Жыл бұрын
Affordable? We have different definitions of affordable.
@ojobee
@ojobee Жыл бұрын
Can they reach out to me, too, if I want to install one in my van? 😊😊
@Level_Up_Nation
@Level_Up_Nation Жыл бұрын
This is nice, planning on building my first van or box truck tired of paying crazy high rent, was planning on going with a 3000WH power station with Solar panels
@John2022-i2q
@John2022-i2q 6 ай бұрын
Some of this have in Aliexpress for 350 dolar
@TheDeelunatic
@TheDeelunatic Жыл бұрын
The only concern I would have with the Velit design as shown, would be the wind vibrations loosening things over time. So I would end up being overly cautious with checking it every other month depending on my usage of the Van/camper for any loosening clamps or weakening adhesive/sealant. But at least it is easily removable when the time comes for that.
@jamesjob9067
@jamesjob9067 11 ай бұрын
It would only be good for a small van or a tiny off grid cabin.
@johnnyhellfire6
@johnnyhellfire6 Жыл бұрын
That's a funny idea on what "affordable" is...
@mikegreene8461
@mikegreene8461 4 ай бұрын
Lose the music....annoying, no one came here for a concert.
@listenup9322
@listenup9322 Жыл бұрын
You didn't show anything about the wiring. This really could have been a video about neighbors while working.
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
There’s 2 wires that are 6 gauge, fuses included wire them to your bus bars 👍🏻
@davidvalens3337
@davidvalens3337 2 ай бұрын
how cold can you get your van with this AC?
@vanvittles8651
@vanvittles8651 8 ай бұрын
thanks for the info and code! installing mine early this week. Can't wait!
@envj8813
@envj8813 Жыл бұрын
Why are you deleting comments? I mentioned a more affordable option for the same ac unit. Must be getting kick backs from velit
@iraa9935
@iraa9935 4 ай бұрын
Can you repost the other options?
@dreday4612
@dreday4612 2 күн бұрын
Will that be good to use in a food truck?
@ivansidoruk7542
@ivansidoruk7542 5 ай бұрын
1500$ for an ac? thats not the cheapest brother lolol
@egn83b
@egn83b Жыл бұрын
This is baffling to me, average people dont understand 12v systems and how expensive it is. Just cuz your car or whatever is 12v dont make these systems efficent or cheap. Copper costs alot and battery capacity makes batteries cost alot in money and weight. A 48v or higher system is easier to run then 12v and cheaper. The saving would be less weight and less copper and more fuel savings.
@reubenj.cogburn8546
@reubenj.cogburn8546 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I would just upsize my battery Bank, just as you have done. Secondly, I would simply make sure that my inverter was spect out to something larger than I think I'm going to need going in. Lastly, I would simply use a $150 window AC unit, that is much easier to service should the need arise. The only Advantage to having low voltage DC current air conditioners is that they do not require alternating current. I have alternating current. I can see where this might fit a niche, but I see no real practical long-term use in terms of money well spent. My little 5K BTU window shaker has been cooling off my trailer for over a year now and it only takes three to four hundred watts of power to run it Done deal, bottom line - great for glamping, waste of money
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap Жыл бұрын
I hear ya Reuban about a window unit on a trailer with straight walls. But I don't really see where you could put a window AC unit on a van with curved walls that will maintain a water seal and one that is practical for a livable layout. We use Battle Born Batteries, which are around good chunk of change so to upgrade add even more batteries to our battery bank (which also takes up more space in the electrical area) basically evens out vs spending the money on a 12v roof AC evens out in my opinion.
@reubenj.cogburn8546
@reubenj.cogburn8546 Жыл бұрын
@@MathersOnTheMap finding a place to mount a small rectangle is not a challenge if you have any kind of mechanical ability. I built my own batteries from lithium iron phosphate sells I ordered directly from China. My little 7 x 14 trailer has three thousand watts of solar collection, and over thirty thousand Watts of battery power. Each 560 amp hour battery I built cost me $1,100. I now have all the power I will ever need, for the rest of my days. What I am saying is you don't have to buy things off the shelf, or have appliances that are plug-and-play, a little elbow grease can be worth thousands of dollars. I have proof.
@MarkoManiac
@MarkoManiac Жыл бұрын
​@Reuben J. Cogburn now ya just gotta learn how lossy dc to ac to dc is and you'll be set. Not a chance I'd run an "ac" apliance on my DC power bank for no reason.
@reubenj.cogburn8546
@reubenj.cogburn8546 Жыл бұрын
@@MarkoManiac lol, the reason is my air conditioner cost me much less than $200. This air conditioner he's promoting sells for $1,600. Getting a clue yet? I live the good life, and I use electricity. I can buy any appliance I want at any store I want and simply plug it in. dc appliances means you're stuck at the RV store or the internet. So, stay true to your DC love, and I'll stay with the convenience and diversity of my setup.
@SuperBacDoc
@SuperBacDoc Жыл бұрын
@@reubenj.cogburn8546 , it definitely works for you and the Physics and chemistry definitely back up your position. Some of us are concerned about the esthetics of window ac and the bouncy ride of van. Every situation is different and I would spend extra for something like this mounted on roof. It all comes down to personal preference and budget. The best thing about videos like this are the options you can get.
@ChristophPuetz
@ChristophPuetz Жыл бұрын
What you did not talk about at all is the noise level. The Dometic is hideously loud as an example. All the reviews on KZbin or anywhere else conveniently ignore that. Bought that thing and it is pretty much useless if you plan to sleep while it is running. How is this one? I mean - be honest. The price and that it cools is one thing, using it in real life is what matters in the end. I have a glorified RTX 2000 on my truck camper, but if I want to sleep at night I better not use it.
@thelongdaysofwheeling124
@thelongdaysofwheeling124 Жыл бұрын
So about 10k in batteries and AC unit. Hahahaha.
@vdynmx
@vdynmx 5 ай бұрын
I dont get it, why not just run the cars AC?
@poikelos6291
@poikelos6291 5 ай бұрын
this doesnt seem cheap since it only does AC not heat.
@BruceP
@BruceP Жыл бұрын
And pray tell how is 1800USD "affordable" when a normal rooftop ac unit is $800? For that price you can just buy a regular AC unit AND the batteries to run it for the same price as your so called affordable unit. Glad you got paid though.
@dustup2249
@dustup2249 Жыл бұрын
A 20 amp draw for only 8000 BTUs is a very bad trade. A large 100 amp hour LiFePO4 battery with a 80% DoD will give you 4 hours of comfort in an 80F climate. Any money you pretend to save on a $1,600 RV AC unit will end up in at least 4 expensive 100 Ahr Litium Ion batteries. Must be your RV does not have a refrigerator...
@karlroebling3316
@karlroebling3316 4 ай бұрын
Love your chart but let's add one more row: Efficiency. As all are 12 volt systems, we need only divide the maximum BTUs by the maximum amp draw to see who delivers the most for the least. Dividing 6824 BTUs by 58 amps we see the Dometic provides 118 BTUs cooling per amp. Similarly, dividing the Nomadic's 11830 BTUs by its 105 maximum amp draw yields an efficiency ratio of 113 BTUs per amp. The Velit easily wins on efficiency, when its claimed 8000 BTUs are divided by its maximum 60 amps draw, the efficiency ratio is 133 BTUs per amp of electricity.
@cluberic
@cluberic Жыл бұрын
$1,600 ac is "affordable"?
@jeffcohen9246
@jeffcohen9246 3 ай бұрын
Definitely overpriced if that really is it
@robertcaudill3272
@robertcaudill3272 Жыл бұрын
was yours loud as f*ck when you fired yours up
@RacineandPeter
@RacineandPeter 7 ай бұрын
This is amazing! we install our Velit AC unit tomorrow and this was a huge help figuring out the best way to install it!
@MathersOnTheMap
@MathersOnTheMap 7 ай бұрын
happy to help!!!
@nickporreca587
@nickporreca587 6 ай бұрын
How did the unit work during the summer? I am also in NJ and have a 115 volt RV A/C unit on my Skoolie and don't have A/C in the factory vehicle and tried to use it while driving but killed the batteries after a few hours.
@SOLDOZER
@SOLDOZER 9 ай бұрын
Those things draw a ton of amps.
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