New AI ATC for MSFS: Sayintentions.ai

[@deltatango5293]

So glad I found your channel recently. Great content, and delivered really well! What appeals to me is this system seems a little less stressful than Vatsim - and you always have coverage, anywhere you want, anytime you want. Real people will always be real people, but this os a great substitute.

[@g-locmedia]

I certainly is. I’ve used it quite a few times now. Great for gaining confidence.

[@bobmarino350]

My friend. You are so correct. I became legally blind 10 years ago and had to stop flying. I am trying to get back into it now, but this is a game changer.

[@g-locmedia]

It certainly adds quite a lot to the sim

[@Plupx]

Vatsim helped me tremendously with my radio anxiety in real world, wonderful to see that there's now a bridge from offline to online atc.

[@g-locmedia]

It sure is and it harder than I looks to learn but very satisfying

[@frontcentermusician]

Only bad thing right now is the slow response. But I am sure that will get worked out.

[@g-locmedia]

They recently had a post on discord stating that they had just reduced wait times by 30%. Let’s hope it keeps going.

[@bobbydigital18]

Great quality video and OMG the cockpit setup is pretty sweet!

[@g-locmedia]

Thanks a lot!

[@BjerkeRobin]

Man... your simpit is a frikkin thing of absolute beauty 😮

[@g-locmedia]

Thank you so much mate.

[@DerailRailroad]

First time I've seen people use my home airport!

[@g-locmedia]

It’s a hotspot now lol.

[@AtlisWerks]

Great vid. It takes much more brain power to be able to communicate properly. AI ATC is the future of leisure simming IMHO. I wouldn't be surprised to see this being implemented as a paid add-on or something similar in flight simulators across the board.

[@g-locmedia]

100% agree with that. Do you use VATSIM?

[@AtlisWerks]

@@g-locmedia nope. I used to fly GA years ago, now I am just getting into MSFS (130hrs on Xbox).

[@redtailpilot]

Very impressive! I learned about this program while watching a BYATC video, ironically 😂 I think my problem is not so much the price, but the fact that I'm an occasional user of MSFS. The majority of my limited sim time is spent in DCS World (in VR) living my dreams of being a combat fighter pilot, lol. But as a longtime user of MSFS (since my teen years-1980s), I've always wished for realistic ATC and since I don't do much real world flying these days (PPL since 1998), this looks like a great alternative. I'm also exclusively GA when I fly the sim (love the FSW 414). Tried airliners a few times over the years, but they never held my interest very long. So that's a plus that this can be used with any aircraft in the sim. Just wish I could pay for what I use, as I use it or bank it.

[@g-locmedia]

Yea I think occasional users would find it hard to part ways with that much cash every month. I think it's aimed at more hard core users.

[@redtailpilot]

@@g-locmedia I agree. It is quite impressive though. I'll give it a go soon (free trial) 😆

[@mefjuldz]

Oh man ! Never heard of it . I am on VATSIM since 2 years already and done my first flight after more than a year of flying on observer mode learning as much as i could before logging my first official one on the network now i am about 10 flights in and the only thing that really helped me much was preparing in advance most of the conversations i would have with ATC and just fill them with changable data such as tail number etc and most important thing is make those on paper and hold them on your kneeor whatever. I am watching the development of BeyondATC and now i have a second one on the horizon ! Thanks mate ! And wish all the courage you can get to make that step .

[@g-locmedia]

Thanks for the insight. Yes there’s some very cool things happening with ATC at the moment. Very exciting. Have you ever tried Pilot Edge?

[@mefjuldz]

@@g-locmedia Heard about it but never tried , VATSIM is more aproachable IMO . Besides that, as you mentioned i hope AI progress will be beneficial for us simmers and looking forward for this year as it seems its going to be a aviation banger

[@g-locmedia]

@@mefjuldzms2024 this year. Can’t wait.

[@mefjuldz]

@@g-locmedia Yep ! hope we can get it at least in q3/q4 without delays but either way i am buying it :D

[@lpburke86]

@@mefjuldz most of the Microsoft flight sims released q3…. This one will hopefully follow that trend.

[@komrad1983]

Such a good setup and left the text hints on the screen, how?

[@g-locmedia]

The ATC panel is on the left hand side

[@devonkearney3551]

Loved the video man. Out the door, how much have you put into your setup??

[@g-locmedia]

About 12k USD I reckon

[@theporschepilottpp910]

Hey! Glad to finally hear this AI implemented. I’ve been using pilot edge for years and it made a huge difference in my IRL flying. Taking to ATC just add a heavy level of immersion, it keeps your flying……accountable. Keep at it and in no time you’ll sound like a captain.

[@g-locmedia]

thanks for the encouragement. Looking forward to learning more about all this

[@theVRpilot]

As a real world controller myself, I think you did a great job. I talk to student pilots that often sound worst haha. Question - Do you ever get the feeling of Vertigo with that setup?

[@theVRpilot]

If you ever miss a readback, IRL and in SIM say, Can you say again for 2SW?

[@g-locmedia]

Nah never had that kind of feeling. I know my Mrs feels sick if she has a go though.

[@g-locmedia]

Will add that one to my notes. Thanks

[@tangocharlie9291]

PilotEdge was indeed intimidating to start… but if you plan on flying IRL, you’re going to be stressed. I found the PE’s intimidation factor to be wonderful prep.

[@g-locmedia]

Yea I see what you mean. Thanks for the insight.

[@matt-f1c]

Love your videos and love your setup, Iv got a 3 55” oleds I need to bring into one room and create what you have, it looks like the perfect size for a cockpit

[@g-locmedia]

OLEDs are my dream. If I had OLEDs I’d be night flying all the time. Super jealous.

[@g-locmedia]

Yea they are a great size. Give a 1:1 feeling when sitting in position.

[@rmm9676]

ATC - Definitely a work in progress!! I was definitely feeling great empathy / sympathy for the obvious Task Saturation/Overload. About this ATC add-on....The Ai allowed you to skip the IDENT after accepting the Transponder Code for Flight Following. For training, how will you learn correct procedures if the Ai doesn't care about communication lapses? NOT a good thing, IMHO. Pilot Edge has real human controllers who are super patient and will take time to correct and train. Re: "PopOut Panels" -- For touch screen interface for your panels, consider Air Manager V4 plus the Knobster Rotary Controller. Latest Features of Air Manager v4.2 -- "As some already know, the most the most prominent feature is video streaming in combination with X-Plane 12. This means that with X-Plane 12, you no longer have to use pop-out windows. Glass cockpit images are streamed directly to Air Manager. This feature will also come to the tablet versions of Air Manager."

[@g-locmedia]

I actually use g1000 units so not air manager. That’s a good point about unit letting me away with the ident as it did ask for it. Wondering if the ATC will get better over time and more strict.

[@rmm9676]

@@g-locmedia Ai theoretically is capable of learning. Keep us posted on that. You can always tell your Ai ATC - "Student Pilot - Solo" when you first talk to Ground. See if it behaves "nicer".

[@lpburke86]

Many of the enforcements are currently shut off due to the number of users are brand new to VFR comms and then go report their lack of knowledge as program bugs. It is still a beta, so there are some decent bugs left to fix, but those can’t get found when you have a constant string of bug reports that are “I didn’t get flight following when I said “(callsign) requesting flight following””…. No destination, no present location, no altitude, no type, nothing…. Just “requesting flight following”…. There wasn’t much choice but to ***temporarily*** shut those off.

[@g-locmedia]

It's going to be interesting to see where thi goes. I also should have noted that I had student Pilot mode on. Its a cool peice of software thats pushing me to learn much more about and speaking to ATC. @@lpburke86

[@rmm9676]

@@lpburke86 Thanks for the insight. Wish you all success!

[@Blodwyn1976]

You're rig looks so great! Have I seen it correct, that your rig is moving but the monitors are not mounted to the rig (so they don't move)? How does that feel for immersion? Actually flying VR but thinking of triple monitor setup for allday use.

[@g-locmedia]

Feels fine. Cockpit actually pivots from the from so it all feels quite natural.

[@Blodwyn1976]

@@g-locmedia Thanks for the fast reply. Let´s see, if I'll go that way too 🤓 VR is great, but sometimes especially for longer flights a monitor setup would be a good alternative.

[@Michael_forest]

nice video, really great learning curve 😊. Can you please tell me your pc and monitor specs? Are all 3 Monitors on one pc?

[@g-locmedia]

Yea sure. Yea triple monitors are Hisense U7HAU or in the US U7H. The pc driving the whole thing is an NVIDIA4080 with an AMD7800X3D.

[@TheCarDoc1]

Great video mate! I’m considering vatsim training soon so this looks good!

[@g-locmedia]

I think it’s a great bridge to VATSIM.

[@fbhombal]

You don’t need to use the Popout panel manager any more, its built into FS2020

[@g-locmedia]

How so? Please if it is let me know how I can access it.

[@SJGsysadmin]

Hold right alt button and then click the panel you want to pop out. However it isn’t borderless so not great on an embedded screen like your G1000s

[@g-locmedia]

@@SJGsysadmin yea that’s what I’ve been doing. Until pop out manager gets an update I’ll continue to use that

[@seattime4075]

Try the A2A piper 250 for a excellent MSFS flight model.

[@g-locmedia]

Never flown it. Will give it a go though. Thanks for the recommendation

[@DavidR_192]

@@g-locmedia - What? Where have you been? The A2A Comanche is without a doubt the best GA addon ever developed for any sim. It's staggering, and the only negative is that once you've flown it, nothing else measures up.

[@grummanteam1294]

Would love to see you do a video with the A2A Comanche 250 using the brunner yoke 😍

[@g-locmedia]

I tend to stick with g1000 equipped planes because of the setup.

[@seattime4075]

Understand, unfortunately it is the only MSFS GA aircraft that I know of that actually fly's properly. @@g-locmedia

[@DavidR_192]

Your push to talk button for say intentions (on your yoke) was also set up as your AP disconnect!! Every time you hit PTT, you were disconnecting your AP. We could see the flashing yellow AP disconnect on the PFD.

[@g-locmedia]

Pretty sure it only happened the once but maybe I’m Wrong. I’ll check that. Thanks for sharing.

[@PilotJourneyPNW]

"Skyhawk one sierra whiskey, contact ground to copy number for possible pilot deviation" 😆 That emergency landing was a greaser though....👍🏼😁

[@g-locmedia]

Thanks for the info! And for the greaser comment. They don't all look like that. lol.

[@miket3258]

tower aint gonna give you a flight following, thats for whatever center sector you're in, and you have to be tuned to them.

[@g-locmedia]

Thanks for highlighting. Still learning a fair bit with ATC and enjoying it.

[@EmesiS]

As fast as AI technology is moving I'm sure other developers will bring out more ATC software like this. At the moment this seems a little pricey for being a beta. Sounds like it works pretty good but price will hold me back on this one. Thanks for the video. Cheers!

[@g-locmedia]

undoubtably the biggest barrier they face. They have said to expect the price to come down as the tech get develops

[@CessSim]

great video mate. Be interested to see how this stacks up against Beyond ATC.

[@g-locmedia]

Very interesting indeed. Will You be getting in to the AI atc?

[@CessSim]

@@g-locmedia I do go on Vatsim so will do both as this is great for practice as you say.....

[@g-locmedia]

@@CessSim how did you go when you first made the Jump to VATSIM?

[@CessSim]

@@g-locmedia my very first radio call...."radio check" did at Bankstown...First one always the hardest but get used to it after a while. I listen in a lot on the network and mainly fly VFR at regionals so a little easier.

[@lpburke86]

It’ll be a completely different experience… they won’t stack up at all. BATC isn’t AI, as confirmed by the developer last week on their discord. SayIntentions is 100% GA focused with low IFR coming in the near future and Hi IFR probably never, and BATC is 100% commercial IFR focused with VFR sometime in the future maybe… the only thing they’ll have in common is they are ATC addons.

[@Psychokiller1888]

Yeah, pop-up manager just won't work for me. I can do it manually and the steps go forward, but nothing but camera reset works auto. Got rid of it

[@g-locmedia]

That’s very similar thing that happens with me. So weird as I k ow quite a few simmers that says it’s flawless.

[@Psychokiller1888]

@@g-locmedia as I told him on github, I have a strong feeling it's localisation related, keyboard codes etc. May I ask what country you're from? I'm in Switzerland

[@SargeNurseOffRoading]

Hi what headset are u wearing?thks

[@g-locmedia]

This is the Blackshark v2 Pro

[@brandonchappell1535]

Such a helpful video man, im in a similar situation as you, unfortunately many online guides are all experienced simmers that use vatsim etc, and does nothing to lower the anxiety. To see someone learning in live time is such a great tool. I was looking forward to beyond ATC too, as the TERRIBLE default atc is ruining nearly every flight, i swear its in worse condition now, than at launch!! i dont like subscriptions, but as he described on his page, i understand why, its just i dont fly often enough to justify subs. seems cool though

[@g-locmedia]

I feel like the subscription model might be the biggest barrier but I'll wait until it comes out of Beta to fully comment on the pricing.

[@razorseal]

Sounds amazing but pricey. Also seems to be slow to respond. Atc will get right back to you

[@g-locmedia]

It is fairly slow at the moment but they are working on that. As for the price I guess it depends how much you get out of it. They have also said the price should continue to drop over time.

[@colewagoner]

5-7 second delay is entirely common IRL. Instant is not reality

[@buikhan]

When is this available?

[@g-locmedia]

They are still in beta at the moment unsure how long away a full release is.

[@DavidR_192]

It's a great system and very immersive, but they need to resolve the 5-15 seconds delay you get EVERY time you speak to ATC, before you get a response. Clearly it's searching it's AI databases and forming a response, but the time take to get the response is currently just too long.

[@g-locmedia]

Yea sometimes it’s quicker than others and I’m guessing it may also depend on how many users are on at one time.

[@KP-lt4kt]

Do you play Microsoft flight sim through steam?

[@g-locmedia]

No I have it through the MS Store

[@grummanteam1294]

Nice dude! What a setup that will be 😃

[@g-locmedia]

Thanks! 👍

[@RobertHopkinsArt]

I'm not a pro... Make sure you write everything down that they say. By writing it down you wont forget it and you'll will be able to say it back to them. There are some dictation tricks that will help write it down quickly. There was a good-looking female pilot on YT (2 years ago) that goes over this in detail of how to write it down. Tell them you are a student right up front, they will slow down and help you out. That's common in RL too. You did well! It took some huge balls to post this video! We all know how embarrassing it is to do this. It took every ounce of will power on your part to not just say F%^# it, I'm outta here!

[@g-locmedia]

Thanks mate. Great tips and info. Thanks for taking the time with the comment.

[@RobertHopkinsArt]

Pilot Emilie on YT: Air Traffic Control Explained | How To Talk to ATC for Pilots & Student Pilots in Training

[@travelxaviation]

Get yourself a simple kneeboard with a velcro strap around your thigh with a notepad. Learn to write in short, not word for word.

[@g-locmedia]

I'll check her out

[@danielwiese7610]

If you want immersion, there is nothing better than VATSIM. I completely understand the nerves. Once you get the hang of it, there’s nothing to it. Unfortunately there are a lot of times and places where controllers aren’t on, so I’m definitely looking forward to AI atc. But I’m waiting for beyond atc.

[@g-locmedia]

Yea beyond ATC is also looking promising.

[@thedrewh10]

I have to say that pilotedge is the most realistic atc experience. The problem with vatsim is all the facilities like ground, tower, app, and center are not available simultaneously for the whole flight. It can be hit or miss on having atc service.

[@lpburke86]

Nothing is better for immersion that being mid landing and having center, tower, and ground all go offline at the same time because they were all the same person, right? @thedrewh10 is right… pilot edge is the most realistic… but they aren’t 24/7, and go ahead and run a mayday on there… you can *hear* how pissed off the controllers get.

[@thedrewh10]

@@lpburke86 that’s probably because you asked for that progressive taxi at lax.

[@lpburke86]

@@thedrewh10 Who in their right mind lands a GA Aircraft VFR at LAX? Harrison Ford dont count.

[@eggsdooley]

I don’t think those are other people on the radio. I think they are AI too…..aren’t they?

[@g-locmedia]

No these are other people mixed in with AI. Listening to it live you can tell the difference.

[@kolofko3482]

Any chance that we will get this on xbox one day ?

[@g-locmedia]

My gut feeling tells me no but you never know. I’ve seen some other apps make it to Xbox like FlowPro.

[@kaeptnbaloo]

Famous last words: "Iam running out of time, I've got to get the plane down" ~ G-LOC MEDIA :)

[@ZiggyAir]

These AI ATC services look great until you see how much you will pay for them. I like the approach sayintentions is taking. Not overhyping this product, keeping expectations realistic. However, 29.95 per month seems too expensive for this add on.

[@g-locmedia]

Such great fun and another element of difficulty added to the sim. As for the expense I think they expect it to come down as the tech advances.

[@ZiggyAir]

@@g-locmedia You have that element if you use any ATC service available now except, of course, the default one. That 29.95 per month will get old soon. I mean, that's 2 Netflix accounts. I believe that this app, as well as BATC are positioning themselves to see if ASOBO acquires them to then be integrated into the sim as the default ATC service.

[@b6s4shelter]

I know exactly how you feel! It's a big hurdle.

[@g-locmedia]

It sure is but with some practice and light study I feel like I should get the basics down in a few months.

[@AlbertvanEe]

Sorry to say but your cockpit looks more like a tower view than a cockpit! ;)

[@g-locmedia]

A tower???

[@mathiasgameplays6036]

does it work for xbox

[@g-locmedia]

Not for Xbox. Sorry

[@grummanteam1294]

Ahh gotcha 👌

[@g-locmedia]

I'm picking up VR soon though. Could be a great purchase to go along with that

[@andy70d35]

Looked OK, but at $299.95 a year, they can keep it.

[@g-locmedia]

They say it will likely come down as tech evolves but when that will be I have no idea. I think the value is there if get a lot of use out and your learning.

[@berlinflight_tv]

@@g-locmediaFrom what I’ve seen in your video, it looks like right now it’s an impressive technical achievement but a terrible learning tool. ATC not correcting your mistakes or requiring readbacks is a very bad thing, as it just teaches bad habits. E.g., it never told you that you forgot to request a VFR clearance, even though the ATIS instructed you to do so, nor did it complain when you didn’t follow the instruction to line up and wait. (That means to enter the runway and wait for the takeoff clearance.) It’s okay for you not to know these things, but how are you supposed to learn them, if nobody even tells you what you did wrong and how to do it right? Ideally, teachers should be understanding but pedantic: They shouldn’t make the student feel bad for making a mistake, but should use it as a teaching opportunity to show how it is done properly. Right now, this tool just lets you get away with everything. That’s cool if all you want is feel like you’re talking to ATC, but it’s useless as a learning tool. If they can find a way for ATC to politely explain mistakes and require proper readbacks and phraseology, this could definitely help with learning. Until then, it’s a cool toy for extra immersion.

[@magnumx70]

Yeah but 30 dollars monthly it's a bit too much

[@g-locmedia]

They say it will likely come down as tech evolves but when that will be I have no idea.

[@tonyhorn2954]

$450 AU PER YEAR subscription? Are you out of your freaking mind?

[@colewagoner]

Unfortunately AU has a terrible exchange rate. That is not the fault of the developer.

[@g-locmedia]

They say the prices will drop. I'm hoping so.

[@DavidR_192]

The "other people on the radio" are just AI. It's not a multiplayer platform - it's only you in your session. Yes, the AI voices are THAT good!

[@g-locmedia]

There is AI but there are also other people in the session. There’s a mix of both. You can tell which ones are ai and not.

[@colewagoner]

it *is* a multiplayer platform as well. You can choose what to hear.

[@Patrik.Pereira]

Amazing yes, but $30+ a month subscription. Big NO NO for me

[@g-locmedia]

Yea it is up there in terms of price but they have said they expect it to come down.

[@lpburke86]

Not $30+… $29.95 a month… and that’s operating at virtually no profit due to the cost of the several AIs required to operate…. That cost will come down as the price of those services come down.

[@cayenne7792]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too expensive!!! 360$ a Year

[@g-locmedia]

I've been told to expect the cost to reduce over time as the tech evolves. The price has definitely been a spicey conversation.

[@LaVidaLocaHomie]

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too expensive!!! 360$ a Year" Try owning and maintaining a C172 IRL 😉

[@cayenne7792]

@@LaVidaLocaHomieapples and oranges

[@Spitfire194]

Me too! Agree completely with @deltatango5293. Great content! G-LOC

[@g-locmedia]

Thanks mate. Have you been flying on sayintentions?