New BrewDog Stout: Better Than Guinness?

[@barrymiller6289]

Kind of shocked that Darragh didn't know Brewdog was a major international operation! Devoted to the Guinness sure

[@Jimbuzz]

Especially as they are everywhere in the UK and he’s done quite a few UK videos. They were nearly bought by Heineken last year I think

[@Charlie.202]

I live in China and you can find them in most bars - mental

[@devanman7920]

I figured he tends not to do any research going anywhere...good or bad depending how ya look at it.

[@soca4809]

Brewdog's work culture and the CEO's actions have often experienced negative press and rightly so. That combined with creating a highly expensive, boring & characterless chain of pubs is good enough reason to never drink there. Save your cash for the real pubs lads.

[@ricks4361]

True story. Craft beer pubs on every corner here in the US. And w 100+ locations globally it hardly qualifies. Corporate’craft’ beer. What I wouldn’t give to have what you have in Eire. Support your local pubs!!

[@TrueFilter]

CEO is one of the biggest wankers in the world

[@666armarda]

The best thing about Brew Dog pubs is that the lack of generic, bland beer and expensive prices means it keeps the scum out.

[@TrueFilter]

@@Goono123 yea very different. Nobody goes to pubs normally in Ireland to eat or drink. Especially not with friends.

[@oracleoftruth]

Unlike the multinational behemoth Diageo?

[@Novaera89]

The prices in the Cork Brewdog are wild as well, and without all those multi billion dolla companies around the place. I love Brewdog cans but wouldn't be going there for a pint

[@boland73]

They’re known to be overpriced bollocks in the UK too. Like it’s insane how much they’re charging, can’t believe people pay it on the reg

[@mygigs]

It's a premise that brewdog have positioned themselves as premium and charge premium prices for their product. We see it for pizza, burgers etc. It's done usually under the guise of super premium hard to find ingredients but they aren't at all. I'm sure they include the 'experience' in their prices too.

[@northernhardcore.7899]

Get yourself over to Robinson’s Brewery in Stockport, near Manchester Airport & try Pitch Stout. I was a Guinness Gurgler for 30 years until I tasted Pitch. It’s lush, creamy & very quaffable. Enjoy, Dude!👍🏻 Slainte 🍻

[@MarkMcKee1963]

As a craft beer guy, I love it when a brewpub will have something similar to X, Y, or Z’s macro brewed beer. Some of my friends are not interested in a beer you can chew or as some say, “that dark shit”. Giving them an alternative like this allows us to frequent more establishments.

[@thomasheald2220]

(Not an Irish stout but I’ll let that pass!) I’ve just tried this at a Brewdog in Edinburgh. It’s actually pretty drinkable and a good stout in it’s own right.

[@joeylawless2017]

Paul Markey looks exactly like what you would expect a GM of a craft Beer bar to look like

[@raftonpounder6696]

Yes. A tool.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

I had two pints of Brehon Brewhouse Ulster Black Oatmeal stout at 5% ABV on cask lovely simple beer.

[@davidk7262]

Fair play to you. I sort of expected you to just trash this for not being Guiness but your review feels very genuine. For me, I am more of a craft beer type person and whilst I am not all that keen on the majority of Brewdogs current beers I actually think they nailed this one. Personally I would take it over Guiness but to each his own as they say! As I write this you can pick it up for 4 for £4 in Tesco which is excellent value too.

[@JAY61ish]

I Used to love Makeson years ago.. sweeter than Guiness .. i like guiness too , Beamish and Murphys also.. Coming from the Midlands in England we used to drink a lot of Draught Mild and Manns Brown Ale... Dark Beers and Stouts Are the best ..

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Four provinces brew a dark mild

[@shutup2751]

as much as i like guinness when its a good pint, most places to me dont seem to do good pints of guinness unfortunately

[@jano3289]

Yeah outside of Ireland you are pretty much screwed.

[@jaywalkercrew4446]

​@@jano3289 it's if the pipes are maintained on a regular basis, I've had shit Guinness in Ireland as well. It's if the staff are lazy.

[@jano3289]

@@jaywalkercrew4446 sure but a bad pint is almost a guarantee outside of Ireland. Big difference 😅

[@jaywalkercrew4446]

@@jano3289 yeah true, a bad pint in Ireland is never going to be the disasters you will encounter overseas.

[@mygigs]

​@@jaywalkercrew4446 Pipes? Tell us about these pipes please?

[@benoakes01]

You’ve got to try Sam Smith’s stout. On tap of course. If there was one stout which could top Guinness for you, it could be that. In case you don’t know what Sam Smiths are, it’s a Yorkshire brewery which own their own pubs, serving only their beer. They’re dotted all over but dunno if there are any in Ireland. There are plenty in Yorkshire and London. If you’re in London though, do NOT go to Ye Olde Cheshire cheese. I do not know whats going on there but the last few times I’ve been it, the stout was terrible.

[@Dinckelburg]

Sam Smith run the King Billy in Bristol and their beers are quality.

[@frankcarter6427]

@@Dinckelburg if you're ever in sheffield centre, sam smith's The Brown Bear is a superb , cheap , old fashioned boozer

[@graemebyrne6036]

The prices are nuts

[@davemercer-xp1vi]

I’m a Guinness drinker from across the pond, a Newfoundlander to be exact, all I have available to me is the 440 ml cans. I’ve a question for you about how to deal with cans that have a failed nitrogen ball.

[@mygigs]

I have genuinely never heard of a failed widget but you could try getting the nitro surge device and pouring through that to save the can?

[@davemercer-xp1vi]

@@mygigs I’ve had it happen more then once. Or I’ve been assuming that was the problem. Open the can and there’s nothing going on , no “fizz” I’ll call it, and no sound. And then the kicker, just a flat pour, no head 🤷‍♂️

[@mygigs]

@@davemercer-xp1vi are you in the United States? Those 440ml cans are potentially manufactured in Baltimore? The ones I've had produced in Ireland have never had a failed widget in my experience but honestly see can you get the nitro surge device and see does that make a difference, it should.

[@davemercer-xp1vi]

@@mygigs I live in Canada. The nitro surge device may be a good investment 👍

[@davec4955]

I've got to try it ! Here in England, back in the day I preferred Beamish to Guinness, sadly it hasn't been available over here for many years ☹️ I do have the occasional draught Guinness ! However I prefer Guinness original (sadly no longer available bottle conditioned) 😂 and love Guinness West Indies porter !

[@del4189]

Agree the West Indies Porter is a great beer 👍

[@anthonydowling3356]

@@stephenw1799 Wetherspoons pub chain Dublin have Beamish .In fact they only have beamish and not Guinness .

[@darrenmiller8477]

Prefer beamish myself find it hard to get

[@klawlor3659]

​@@darrenmiller8477Ditto. Get yourself to Belfast, a fair few pubs have Beamish on tap! Personally I'd not drank it since the 2000s until I went to Belfast 😊

[@mooncatgrenadier2075]

If you ever get to Sydney Australia they are really into there micro breweries..Most evenings they are packed and do some amazing nitro stouts.Normal pubs get the regular punters then you have to worry about how clean there pumps and tubes are..in the micro breweries they commit to making the drinks right there and don’t have to bother with what’s being shipped in .

[@nickc1]

Big ups Bracket!

[@oscarosullivan4513]

My local pub has a few independent smaller breweries on draught here

[@johngilmore697]

Oh yes Sydney, Melbourne's ugly cousin

[@leedouglasmusic]

Might be different from draft but just having a can now and it tastes like so many other "craft" stouts it's nice but definitely prefer Guinness. I'll have to try draught though

[@abhoynamedpatrick2898]

Not a big fan of Brewdog but that beer is class.

[@Big-Harry]

You are very straight talking which I quite like none of this rubbish about the what it's like on the nose, haven't tried this new stout from BD yet always prefered The Porter from Anspach & Hobday.

[@thepatriarchy819]

Start asking us polls on your community, for new pint ideas!

[@euan1246]

Loved the look when the craft master glass was mentioned😅

[@JB47000]

Haha was visiting Dublin a few months ago and literally sat on that exact table you were on. Black heart definitely has more complexity than Guinness. Pint of Guinness tastes pretty watery compared. Guess that’s the point of Guinness tho because it means you can sink pint after pint no problem.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

I could sink pint after pint of O’ Hara’s single stout or the brehon brewhouse ulster black

[@hoolers4706]

Can I suggest that you try London Black, from the Anspach and Hobday brewery. It’s going down well in London, and it is starting to spread throughout the UK. I think you might quite like it……

[@rookb]

he has

[@Twiceonasunday]

He’s done that and was a good vid to be fair.

[@Baron-Ortega]

Gotta say this is bloody beautiful beer

[@BrewabitRick]

In the UK the packaging in the shops say it wasn’t created in 1759 what if it’s better ? The reviews are coming in positive and here in the uk the price for a four pack is only £5 Guinness is £4:75p. Love the glass looks like a winner nice one cheers 👍🍻

[@lightoftheworld417]

clubcard deal at tesco 4£ for 4 brewdog.

[@smurfit06]

Always find their pints easy to drink, just sweet. Like it’s got some extra sugar in it. If that makes sense. Maybe that’s why so expensive, the sugar tax

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Could be using lactose sugars which is something that goes back to the late 19th century

[@mygigs]

Brewdog aren't using lactose in every beer, lactose wouldn't work in every beer, only certain styles and because lactose is considered an allergen it needs to be highlighted just like wheat and malted barley are. Maybe the other adjuncts they use make them seem sweeter like the clockwork tangerine beer, that has an extract added, it's almost perfumy and let's be honest, fake tasting. It's like tangerine essential oils.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

@@mygigs Agreed I would love to try a proper milk stout

[@novaxela]

I rate Paul, seems like a nice guy but i feel like everything with Brewdog is tricky, it isn't craft beer and I think it slightly harms the craft beer market when a company like Brewdog comes in attempting to market themselves as that as it diminishes the amount of work and difficulties actual craft breweries face. Plus, all drama to do with the treatment of staff, idk as much as a beer might be alright, there will always be a bad taste

[@oscarosullivan4513]

I had two pints of Brehon Brewhouse Ulster Black Oatmeal stout at 5% ABV on cask lovely simple beer.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Agreed

[@lightoftheworld417]

what is craft though?

[@oscarosullivan4513]

@@lightoftheworld417 The protected term is microbrewery in Ireland no more than 40,000 hectolitres

[@Jacarys07]

Any idea if they will be releasing this in the states?

[@baerlauchstal]

There are UK pubs that don’t have Guinness, but I’d say most do. It’s definitely the beer you see most often here. Just one of the ways Irish culture enriches ours!

[@raftonpounder6696]

You mean GB pubs. Every Northern Ireland pub has Guinness.

[@baerlauchstal]

@@raftonpounder6696 If there are GB pubs that don't have Guinness, it follows that there are UK pubs that don't have Guinness. GB pubs form a subset of UK pubs.

[@raftonpounder6696]

@@baerlauchstal yes but there are no pubs in Northern Ireland without Guinness so if there are pubs in GB without Guinness, that doesn’t mean there are pubs in the UK without Guinness. Only GB. Not UK.

[@jamesk1806]

Maybe it doesn't travel like Guinness.. So a review in Edinburgh or London might be in need?

[@joinmeonthedarkside2]

It's brewed in Scotland ..

[@jamesk1806]

@@joinmeonthedarkside2 hence why I said Edinburgh. 😉

[@stevenrutherford3013]

Stumbled across your channel today while board working from great stuff mate!

[@PaulMacD1978]

Supping a couple of cans of this now.... First impressions, not too dissimilar to Guinness. After taste more noticeable. Decent, but not as moreish as Guinness, which I think I'll prefer on a Sunday while I'm cooking the roast.

[@Rich6816]

So it seems that all brewdog bars charge more than normal. No idea why, but it's always expensive heading in to one

[@oscarosullivan4513]

With the stronger beers I understand with the alcohol duty

[@my_carp_life3424]

7.80 euros for a pint 😱, mask and stripy jumper springs to mind

[@gregconway736]

The Porterhouse in Temple bar charges €6.10 for their stout. A decent price for the area and it's a pretty decent stout.

[@t3649]

I had that before, it smelt and tasted like farts! Not worth it

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Their XXXX stout and Irish stout are lovely

[@eddielevangie4811]

A nice red ale there as well.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

@@eddielevangie4811 Agreed

[@johnp8131]

@@t3649 Haven't done any fart sucking for years! Used to enjoy their Oyster stout and Plain Porter though.

[@Jack_B_guin_87]

Every brewdog pub looks like it’s just survived a fire and most of their customers have 10mm washers in their ear lobes. I’ve enjoyed a few of their beers from Tesco but the above can put you off. Give me an old man boozer and Guinness every day of the week

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Give me an old man boozer and any stout

[@seymourhundos7986]

The hazy Jane tins are decent but the pubs are soulless over priced also the food I’ve had was below standards for the prices

[@observantgeezer3292]

Brewdog are good at one thing and one thing only. Marketing.

[@mattlord97]

In.manchester we have Joseph holt pubs and the "black" stout they have is nice imo.

[@VloggingBastendo]

Great video, but the shots in the bar are a bit out of focus. By accident focussed on the background?

[@anfeariontach]

Places like Brewdog are ripping the sole out of the Irish pub scene.

[@decotronq9054]

😅 😅 Utter nonsense. Completely Different markets.

[@anfeariontach]

@@decotronq9054 and they exploit their staff. Awful shower.

[@raftonpounder6696]

Soul as well.

[@JB-sv5pr]

I’m in Ireland right now on holiday going to head to a pub soon Excited to try some local pints

[@KevinLopez-rl6wq]

Have you ever tried any "Dark Milds" or "Brown London Porters"?

[@felixdoran4891]

Which pub did you ever do a ten what was the best

[@mitzy123]

I absolutely love brewdogs black heart. It has the same smoothness of Guinness but with a richer malt flavour

[@alanthomson1227]

Used to love their Riptide and Cocoa Psycho , both imperial,stouts that crept up on you as 8% and 10.5 % respectively .

[@Tobytiesdell]

You can get this in cans in my local supermarket (Surrey, UK) £5 for 4 cans. Darker than Guinness, not as much cascade when poured, nice pint though.

[@frankcarter6427]

yesterday, in Sheffield, I had a can of Abbeydale brewery Salvation Irish Stout, delicious, but doesn't have the lovely creamy mouth feel of Guinness

[@CagedPaps]

Brewdog don't hide the fact they want to take on Guinness - they acknowledge outside of Ireland there's really very little competition. Might see the odd place with Murphy's so that's what they want to fill. Same with their lager, they even use Heineken in their business updates - they want to outsell them. Ultimately there isn't the money in being solely craft beer, Brewdog have owners (TSG) that require certain levels of growth, if these aren't being met it'll come from the business. They play the whole craft card but really James Watt only cares about selling books.

[@Shane-rx6qg]

For €7.85 it better be good, ridiculous prices

[@smashyrashy]

Bastards, Take the shirt off my back while you're at it

[@sav7568]

That's incredible. Outside Dublin you can still get a pint for €5.

[@MattHatfieldArt]

I feel like this is a primer for the GURU BREW - your new contract beer?

[@TurfShifter]

You lost me at Brewdog. Such an awful company. I went into their place in Bristol and it is not in an expensive area and after ordering I had to take out another mortgage to cover the cost. They are all hype and no bollocks.

[@renaissanceman9168]

And why are all these microbreweries all called “___ dog”. Buncha tools

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Agreed I had two pints of Brehon Brewhouse Ulster Black Oatmeal stout at 5% ABV on cask lovely simple beer.

[@markjones127]

Camera is focussing just fine, it's just not focussing where you want it to, understanding the focusing mode you're using and how to control depth of field with the lens aperture helps you to control this and get the shot to look exactly as you want it to, sorry it's what happens when a photographer watches a review video! 🤣 I haven't had Black Heart on draught yet, but at home I prefer it to Guinness, and I don't keep it in the fridge either as if it's too cold you get less head and flavour, so right now I keep it in a brick shed in my garden which isn't heated so nice and cool inside like a cellar.

[@jamesk1806]

I would drink Black Heart in England quicker than I'd drink Guinness. But back home in Ireland I would drink the Guinness.

[@thomasob1492]

🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

[@ExodusX13]

​@@thomasob1492 🥱🥱

[@oscarosullivan4513]

So much diversity back at home

[@jamesk1806]

@@oscarosullivan4513 better bar staff and Guinness looked after better. You only have to look at shitlondonguinness to see the muck they try to serve here.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

@@jamesk1806 I am fully aware of the Guinness cleaning regime

[@jamesgeorge8915]

This beer may very well replace guiness in UK, a preferable alternative.

[@genevincent52]

Where can I get the glass?

[@earlbee3196]

Probably the best review in the world, thus far.

[@barneypaws4883]

I actually don't mind drinking Black Heart. I couldn't have a session on it because it's too smokey on the taste bud, but it is very drinkable.

[@colmmacgiolla1570]

Looking like you were struggling to get that second pint down Darragh ?

[@MrMacon567]

I had a pint of this in the Dundee brewdog pub and thought it was better than Guinness !

[@downinthemuff]

Every stout is better than Guinness!

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Agreed

[@sitheguy16]

Bought a 4 pack of these at the supermarket. It was terrible. Maybe i need to try it on draught but not sure I’m ready to risk it

[@Tomgpx-kr2zw]

gotta try plain porter from the porterhouse in dublin

[@P0UTY1]

Can you do a series of Dublin pint series?

[@steveaga4683]

What happened to Murphy's?

[@dancindan88]

Get yourself over to Noctors in Sheriff Street. The Guinness is like Mothers Milk. Nula and Derek would look after you over there. Would love to hear what you think about the Guinness there, hear nothing but great things about it!

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Noctors is that even open to non locals

[@j.murphy4884]

Must be the added heroin.

[@Silverbear1967]

Great video as ever if I ever find myself in Brewdog I’ll try one, thanks 🙏

[@JAY61ish]

He said a lot of pubs over here in the UK Don't stock Guiness?? i have never been in a pub over here that doesn't .... WTF??

[@oz1472]

Agree re craft beer , tastes like perfume to me !! A nice Czech beer or stout all day long , top review

[@binflynn1]

Can I ask were it is please

[@stephenw1799]

Problem I've had asking my locals to bring in another stout on tap is that no one will even try it, they will only drink Guinness and it wouldn't sell.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Aye its a problem alright I’m lucky in that regard problem is Guinness is seen as the gold standard

[@rosettaridge6446]

Hey from Canada...nothing like a pint of Guinness in Dublin...i miss it

[@johnnoon9498]

Is this just the rebranded “Jet Black heart” that’s been out for years?

[@richharper8159]

Try Anspach & Hobday London Black - the fact Brewdog brought this out now can't be a coincidence. Come over, try it.

[@jayharper1894]

He’s reviewed it a while ago look back on previous videos 🙏🏽

[@weeg743]

Got to hit this place on my next stop in Dublin.

[@leegriffiths312]

Great video, you had me laughing so much!

[@sean_wfc]

Tried this in the Waterloo Brewdog, apart from the soulless airport terminal atmosphere the stout was pretty poor and expensive.

[@mrronald2649]

I’m surprised he said gunnness only use hop extract? Surly not ? If your drinking a beer you would expect hops to be in it at least

[@leestephenfitzpatrick6373]

Tried one for the first time in Birmingham a few days ago, would drink Murphys b4 black heart all day long & wouldn't drink Murphys ahead of Guinness or Beamish ever.

[@TheGstar2006]

Get yourself over to Round Corner Brewing in Melton Mowbray. Their Reverend Hooker, Irish nitro stout is on point. 👌🏼

[@stevelewis199]

You need to get to anspach and hobday and get a pint of london black. It's the king of stouts!

[@RichardOliver]

He went a few months ago and did a video.

[@MrElectricSkittles]

Whatever about brew dog... Paul seems like a good man to have a pint with

[@Quackfly]

Tasted it tonight. It's like FA. Guinness has nothing to worry about

[@olivercollins8577]

I was actually in there on Saturday to compare it to Guinness in Dublin, it is nowhere near as good as Guinness and I’m a craft beer drinker

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Agreed Brewdog put more money to stunts than brewing and paying staff

[@joinmeonthedarkside2]

Try anspach n hobday London black .. Great stuff. But on this one it was pretty decent tried it in Leeds brewdog

[@oscarosullivan4513]

He tried it he seemed to enjoy it to an extent

[@joinmeonthedarkside2]

@@oscarosullivan4513 must have missed that one.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

@@joinmeonthedarkside2 It’s not too far back

[@adammac2078]

You need to try Belhaven Black next

[@johnp8131]

Prefer it on hand pump, some Greene King houses in the UK sell it as it's part of their group. Tins don't have a Guinness type "widget" in them but I've just had 24 tins an was a bit disapointed as not all the "widgets" they use went off?

[@alexdunlopuk]

I really like this. Like Guinness but with a bit more flavour. I say bring on the competition for Guinness. Cans are already way too expensive

[@MentatOfDune]

Craft beers wouldn't be my thing but yeah, it's nice to have a decent option there.

[@iEvansy]

"Not that I would know the taste of arse" hahahahahahha

[@peakadventures_]

Not tried this black heart, but all other brewdog beers taste identical (crap) only one that was ok was the elvis juice one but could only tackle a few cans at most of them.

[@TheSqueak99]

Heading there to try one….or two 🤠

[@jeremybowles9330]

What is your opinion on Guinness in the bottle? I'm sure you've talked about this before, but I honestly have just thought of this in my head as I was watching this video, thanks.

[@Welshhomie]

Think he tried some around lockdown 2020 i think. He hated it i think 😂

[@oscarosullivan4513]

@@Welshhomie He didn’t like it

[@MegaJackpinesavage]

"A pint of plain is your only man." --- Flann O'Brien

[@craigoliver3709]

There's loads of stouts better than Guinness

[@mossy199]

You should have tasted the Heineken there at Brewdog, they love the Heino shares 😉. Can't stand brewdog if im honest. I can only imagine the Stout is crap too.

[@Twiceonasunday]

Do as we say not as we do bunch the old Spewdog bunch.

[@MalcolmXpat]

Another great upload however your cameras focus was way off. Either way, keep up the great work brother.

[@daraghcurran]

Working on it

[@mygigs]

The reason Guinness doesn't smell much of anything is it's served too cold and the nitro head on it prevents any possible aroma from escaping, these are basics of beer

[@mygigs]

Serving temperature affects all beers. Should a Coors and moretti be served at the same temperature as Guinness? It mutes all aroma and flavours, THATS why lads are able to sink pints of Guinness fast. If the pints were warmer by 2-4°c you wouldn't see them as popular.

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Guinness hits my sensitive teeth

[@renaissanceman9168]

I’m with you on the microbrew thing. They’re too boozy and too hoppy. Too progressive as well. Heartless. Give me a dimly lit bar with low ceilings, plastered walls, a dog laying by the hearth, a fiddler in the corner, and as always, fresh Guinness.

[@rossyoung8892]

Gotta shop around mate, there's plenty of craft breweries that absolutely nail the classic beer styles. I'm with you in that I don't really like most of these modern double IPAs, imperial stouts, sour beers etc, that have turned the flavour and alcohol level up to 11, but there are breweries out there producing understated but excellent craft beer, would recommend Moor Beer Co myself.

[@thepatriarchy819]

Wild to say but I'm from a suburb lying just north of Detroit, Michigan. Baffin Brewing Company, fantastic porters and stouts, dog encouraged place, cozy on the water. Proud to say we have that here in the states.

[@joinmeonthedarkside2]

Stouts shouldn't be. Hoppy. That's ipa neipa etc For a craft stout you should get roasty notes not hops

[@renaissanceman9168]

@@rossyoung8892 I’m no stranger to the craft beer scene. I’m from Southern California, the place that arguably started this modern craft beer craze, and I can tell you, it’s become a Frankenstein’s monster. When the scene was up and coming about 15 years ago, it had heart and was truly about the craft. The scene has sold out and is all about pushing the limits by adding coffee beans, cocoa nibs, peanut butter, berries, bananas, chili peppers, hot sauce, maple syrup, whiskey, candy etc. to the beer, and of course, copious amounts of hops. Plus the gastro pubs and breweries all have a left-leaning/hipster culture built-in. I also see it in much of Guinnesses marketing nowadays. It’s atrocious. If Guinness isn’t careful, they’re going to ruin a brand that’s taken 264 years to establish. They need to quit pandering to everyone in the world and just let people come to Guinness for the same reason they’ve been going to Guinness for 264 years, because it’s tasty and it’s Irish. Just leave well enough alone.

[@rossyoung8892]

@@renaissanceman9168 don't disagree with anything you've said, the craft beer scene has become too big for its own good and with so many breweries competing for a place in the beer market, they've all started brewing "beers" that are so far removed from what a beer should be that it's hard to see how you can even call it beer (don't get me started on the flavouring adjuncts, the last cherry, coconut, oatmeal stout I had was so bad it went down the drain). But I do think it's worth remembering that craft beer wasn't always like this, and was once about producing great quality beer that was brewed with care and passion, in contrast to bland, cheap and uninspiring macro beer market. There are still breweries achieving this level of craft beer, you just have to look for them as they're probably not the ones vying for your attention through marketing gimmicks and obnoxious flavour combos.

[@DINKL8ERG]

Have you tried Guinness with a shot of shanky's whip. Irish jagerbomb 😂

[@What1drink]

Williams bros Midnight sun and Orkney dark island are great dark beers

[@herpsmaltwatta]

Oh no. The manager will get fired by James T Watt now 😂 He said the wrong things about the glass! It needed a full Cicerone description of it.

[@jayd1974]

Not big in to craft beers and certainly don’t even attempt to drink other stouts other than Guinness although had a few Murphys and Beamish years ago as there was a couple pubs around Manchester UK that sold them and wasn’t too gone on them either

[@oscarosullivan4513]

I had two pints of Brehon Brewhouse Ulster Black Oatmeal stout at 5% ABV on cask lovely simple beer.