*New Detachments!* Deathwatch vs Orks | Warhammer 40K Battle Report

[@bholeconnoisseur]

Always a blast watching Beard and Spider play! Definitely my two favourites.

[@EndTimeHeresy]

I can hear the others cry 😥

[@MrStsveins]

It's always fun to see Spider play orks. It's so joyusly orky.

[@jacob5700]

Among loads of great tabletop channels on KZbin you guys are easily my favorite!

[@dras-pv8qv]

Great to see deathwatch on a battle report!!! Thanks guys. (FYI fortis teams get max 4 plasma incinerators)

[@rodneyhall5913]

Came here to say that.

[@Jelle1880]

I don't know why but the 'I've dropped my dice Lawrence, it's on the floor!' cracked me up.

[@treytison1444]

It's a disaster Lawrence

[@MarkKirwan]

I think you may have missed it Beard, but a lot of the various bolt guns in the Kill Teams have picked up Lethal while they were away. Nice bit of extra punch there

[@Gaming4ever-pd7jv]

The Ork paint scheme looks great. Awesome BR.

[@Fenfoxx]

@15:00 Snikrot has twin-linked, so you could have re-rolled those 1s and 2s

[@tomwilliams7287]

Woohoo finally deathwatch are back. Now all we need is Bard playing the Bridgehead Strike

[@timgriesenbeck0917]

Love that green that’s used on the orcs!!

[@andyleeds4]

Flash Gitz hit on 4+ as attached Mek can give order for +1 Hit out of reserves and also they have sustained 1 too.

[@slow_runner]

And they could have Lethals with the Ammo Runt.

[@TheM1shM4sh]

I waited almost 50min to see "dem gitz" blast marines to "smittereens" and then idd hé forgets sustained. Still only on 5+ cause reserve is end of the movement fase and orders happen in command fase. Coming out of reserve counts as having moved, So no bonus on the heavy.

[@Phlebas99]

@@TheM1shM4sh You can order in "command phase or when setup on the battlefield in the movement phase" so he could have ordered.

[@TheM1shM4sh]

@@Phlebas99 your right I missed this. Good to know though thx

[@slow_runner]

You can't get Lootas hitting on 4+, as to-hit modifiers can only go as high as +1 or -1. And Stormboyz come in mobs of 5 or 10.

[@maelstromthunderdrake]

So is it just me that I noticed that Oath of Moment wasn't ever really called?

[@Celticus46]

Ohhhhh I've been waiting to see someone else play this! Tried Taktikal Brigade at home and loved it! Let's gooooooo!

[@halo25assassin45]

1:25 I thought there was a max of 4 hellblasters in that kill team? Am I missing something?

[@robclarke1098]

Torn loyalties! Deathwatch are my favourite Space marines, but I will never stop rooting for Da Boyz to win.

[@DaSkwire]

25:08 "Carry on Wargaming" Spider's face 😁

[@tabletoptactics]

😜🕷️

[@ishmaelbarr158]

Love the ork paint job

[@Lord_Nielsen]

'Having a propah barney, done em like my dinner!' love you guys man

[@SHINYREDBULLETS]

Light goes out; day-night cycle mode unlocked!

[@erichschoenholtz5170]

Ouch that was orly brutal! Great match fellas!

[@Xander101]

I love this faction matchup. Very fun video! I wish my army looked as beautiful, fletcher is an inspiration. As a dedicated DW player I have a few things to point out: - you can only have up to 4 hellblasters in a fortis killteam - I don't know what exact wargear was taken with spectrus killteams, but you were likely missing out on FNP6+ when fighting with stormboyz - You appeared to roll 6 attacks for the aggressor models grenade launcher without rolling for numeber of attacks? With d6+blast you should have had 6 attacks minimum? - I know you don't care about optimal gear when filming games for entertainment...but your lack of hammers disturbes me.

[@Ruggedtoaster]

Yeah this felt like casual deathwatch vs competitive orks in terms of force composition and tactics.I don’t think they had enough deathwatch aggressors to run two indominor teams and for some reason he kept charging the team with one aggressor into combat instead of the team with two? And unless the deathwatch veterans were wiffing at range so they cut it for timeI don’t think he declared the range attacks for them in the last turn? Also, he had a Chaplain in bedded in the deathwatch terminators but he deployed them like an objective holding unit instead of a unit that should’ve been using it re-rolling charges and the plus one the wound the chaplain gave them to be getting stuck in to close combat. But I can entirely understand using the CP to try and save his watch Master, even though it wasn’t a good idea it’s really easy to get invested in your characters like that.

[@Ruggedtoaster]

And yeah, they had shields and bolters, not even shields and swords, their veterans composition intrigues and frightens me

[@dras-pv8qv]

veterans without thunderhammers is heresy

[@tabletoptactics]

Sadly our Deathwatch collection is limited. Thanks for the catches on rules though! The Orks list was trying to take a mix of units to show off the new detachment rather than outright competitive, although I do think it could be made competitive with some tweaks!

[@Ruggedtoaster]

@ oh yeah, I didn’t mean it as like a dig or anything. I thought I had after I posted was thinking “you know people have had a lot more time to consistently play with or have expectations of what different units ork should be able to do? Where as the deathwatch changes so often.” And also, I have shield and bolter deathwatch marines because they’re just fun and they look cool so I really shouldn’t judge.

[@justinn5357]

Where does the "sustained" joke come from, I literally live for it lol "SHUSHTAINED!"

[@colicabd]

Nice to see Deathwatch holding their own

[@fuzzyrhino08]

im aware that this is the first time lawrence has played orks in a long time so no hate to him, but it absolutely pained me to see all those sustained hits go to waste on the flash gitz

[@tabletoptactics]

Very rusty with my Green Boyz! I’ll do better next time :)

[@fuzzyrhino08]

i mean to be fair it looks like the sustained hits werent needed in the end lol, that was some great rolling

[@tabletoptactics]

@fuzzyrhino08 Yeah, usually my luck outweighs any mistakes I make 😜

[@markfrancis8978]

Lots of opportunities with the Deathwatch Beard, but I think you may need to mix it up a bit. Need to add a few more units to the Watch.

[@aaronnunavabizniz199]

You cant give a runtherd an enhancement. Only characters can have them.

[@The_Blackshield]

Woohoo! Deathwatch time baybeee! 😁 Purge the xenos!

[@fedkzseishinkai8783]

Had to drop a like after I saw that awesome backflip 🧔👍

[@rymerre]

Multiple Indominator teams looks spicy

[@Questioningbasics]

Thanks for playing

[@Wisemanman]

@ 50:00 the flash gets even get sustained 1 and wouldve done much better, on top of that, the Big Mek also has Blast and gets +2 shots! They are crazy good!

[@forgedwarrior20]

Where is the discarding a secondary at the end of your turn for a CP coming from?

[@rollnycgaming2279]

My two favorite armies!

[@danmerchant5181]

The Spectrus KT still feels like it would be better as a sniper support unit. The shoot and scoot with the instigator that you can take on one eliminator and the redeploy make them really elusive if they are positioned properly. Precision would've been kinda nasty against this list that hinges on characters giving the ork squads buffs. GGs though, a fun watch as always!

[@couriersix208]

anyone knows where you can get that mask with googles 0:18

[@JackFrost008]

You used the deathwatch shoulder pack for these? I was looking at making a deathwatch killteam. it is good to know they fit primaris and firstborn marines :)

[@dmeep]

Orks Orks Orks Orks Orks Orks Orks Oooorks!

[@johncasamassa2840]

I'm still really new to playing but YIKES! Was it the die rolls, or is the new Ork detachment just that brutal??

[@camus6662]

Yeahhh deathwatch video al fin like+follow saludos de argentina 🤙

[@MichaelWatts]

The emperor protects

[@danjacobs4557]

Is it me or does that terrain scream Star Wars Tatooine? In any case, slay the Zenos!

[@NicerDicerSmart]

Yeah I think I also spotted some Hoth Style shield generators

[@ragnakwon8265]

Did Beard pick an oath of moment target or mission tactic on turn 2?

[@taytonclait]

Seems like these guys enjoy this game

[@yvezL]

am i the only one seeing that at 34:01 he accidenttaly knocks over a 2 to a 6 and misscounts it then?

[@SSK0910]

can you take 5 Intercessors with plasma incinerators in fortis kill team?

[@dras-pv8qv]

no. 4 max

[@brimstone14]

SUSTAIN ON THE FLASHGITZ NNNOOOO!!!!

[@manuelquintana2225]

Also didn’t account for the +1 to hit for the order on the flash gitz or the big mek with SAG

[@yaophan2075]

Where do they get their Ork Kommandos from?

[@RothardMau5]

Looks like a kitbash with old ‘mando bits and burna boyz

[@TheRealActualPaincake]

My Deathwatch army was very much build for 8th and 9th edition, so most of my Killteams have illegal compositions for 10th :(

[@Spectrus_operator]

Spider rolled hot as 6:53 normal. Beard of dear Beard. The Dw you offered to Gork and Mork was all over the place weird. Perhaps you owe the spider a win?

[@RagingHorn7795]

These DW models look gorgeous and full of flavour and personalisation, sadly I think you're only allowed 4 plasma in Fortis KT It's all very new now, very different but on initial appearance seems the same as before so different things aren't obvious until you deep dive with DW.

[@SonofMagnus4765]

Really enjoyed that battle report. If I may ask, I noticed you haven't posted any AoS or orld world battle reports in a while. I just wondered if you're still playing them?

[@tabletoptactics]

No AoS planned, but we do have a couple of Old World reports coming in the near future :)

[@SonofMagnus4765]

@tabletoptactics thank you for the reply 😁

[@alanreed3584]

a bunch of wolfies in beards army...

[@blackfang377]

Only 10 min in but did they mix up Flash Gitz with Lootas

[@Winter-Nine]

YESSSS

[@L0rdm3phiston]

That was a bloody mess. Good game.

[@ging93]

AN ABSOLUTE KRUMPIN!

[@johnontto3863]

storm boyz can fall back and charge without the use of a strat and advance

[@deathshadow396]

Deathwatch 🎉

[@GrudgehammerWargaming]

Stormboyz can be taken in squads of 5, they aren't locked to 10 🙂

[@christophbruckner2017]

War-junior administrative assistant 😂

[@danielgugel506]

Did not think you could stack to instances of +1 to hit? Thought you could do +1 ballistic skill and +1 to hit but not two of the same wording.

[@tabletoptactics]

You’re right, you can’t. I was mistaken as I thought the detachment improved hour BS. So it’s only really effective on things like Flash Gitz :)

[@danielgugel506]

@@tabletoptactics I am getting ready to play in a 50 man crusade in my area and realized this as well. Still helpful for if you need to reposition heavy weapons. Otherwise da boyz iz guna be stelthy like!

[@bigusnickus9125]

Beards 2 nobz comment made me spit out my cup of tea 😂 completely blindsided with that one

[@zacharymorris6119]

Ere we go ere we go ere we go! Waaagh!

[@elispiller2686]

Let’s go bayBEEE DW VS TB 🔥🔥

[@matthewcheeseman6453]

For me this is a bit of a weird detachment for the Orks. I would have thought Freebootas would fit more nicely into a more Bad Moons dakka dakka dakka detachment

[@chetmanley1885]

It's a Blood Axe detachment, it's a combined arms play style not straight up shooting

[@christerprestberg3973]

I would love to have a DW army now that Killteams are back, but I dont trust GW to not nuke them again in 4-6 months >.>

[@ФедяКрюков-в6ь]

Same with the taktikal brigade detachment, lol. I afraid I won't be able to play the minis I've ordered for the detachment more than once before it will be left behind

[@rickkcir2151]

Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

[@zigzagarisen]

Deathwatch never lose because it's either victory or Exterminatus

[@LocalEmu]

'luv me deathwatch, 'luv me kill teams, 'ate xeno. simple as.

[@Toxxxic_]

Some good krumpin

[@Dethectic]

1:01:30 Poor models 😢

[@sebzninja6135]

The only option I see with the Meganobz is the Killsaw, Power Klaw combo, the twin Killsaws having only 2 attacks is just poor from Games Workshop, but even then it is the second best option. I don't understand why anyone chooses to take either the Kustom Shoota or the Combi Weapons with the Meganobz it just isn't worth it.

[@jamiehall814]

killsaw/PK combo is a bit of a waste. Can't fight with both as neither has the extra attack rule. Twin killsaws, while one less attack than the PK can re-roll wound rolls - which with S12, AP3, D2 is good as a can opener (at least until Breaka Boyz start to become more common).

[@sebzninja6135]

​@@jamiehall814 Ah yes, did forget about that rule thank you, have been trying to play more logical and fun these days rather than obeying the rule book. It is a real shame though, I don't see why a Meganob shouldn't be able to fight with two melee weapons if it is equipped with them, being so heavy and all. Same with a Beastboss. In some situations I can understand why a unit may not be able to run double melee weapon combo, when they are as elite as this though, it eludes me. Mb bro, feel free to ignore this, its just me ranting about a potential situation where Killsaw/Power Klaw may still be a viable option... But even with this, just because of how bad 2 attacks are, against extremely light, fast-moving armies with a lot of bodies and limited/no heavies, I can see some niche situations where taking the Power Klaw, Killsaw, or a Power Klaw w ranged weapon combo could actually be viable (especially because you can only take 1 Power Klaw anyway). The 3 attacks compared to 2 attacks, especially if you are running Ghaz with his buffs and bonuses, will make a massive difference against lighter to mid tier units... And you still have the Killsaw to do major damage in case there are a few heavies, with Ghaz + 1 to hit and + 1 to wound, extra strength and attacks from the Waagh, not to mention his other ability in the Waagh and Makaris abilities, you will be hitting on 3s with the Killsaw with the same amount of attacks and popping extras on 5s for War Horde, and with the extra strength and plus 1 to wound you will be wounding on 2s anyway, so the only benefit of twin killsaws being twin-linked may not even matter.... With how useless ranged weapons are with Meganobz they are definitely not even an option. It may be good to take the Power Klaw even then, just for the extra weapons option against lighter/medium units with a lot of bodies. 5-6 Meganobz with 1 extra attack from the Power Klaw, that also has a chance to pop extras on 5s with Ghaz, and wounds on a 2 anyway against lighter units, could be extremely useful in comparison to just 2 attacks even with a twin Killsaws twin linked ability. Plus you still have the extra option, to use the Killsaw anyway as you have both equipped, so even without being able to use both, the dire situation of just 2 attacks, and how useless ranged weapons are with Meganobz, makes this arguably the best option for a Power Klaw loadout anyway... Of course, this is extremely niche, and you want to be taking twin Killsaws 99% of the time, and this combo should only really be paired with Ghaz.... But nevertheless, its still a thought, having two weapon profiles to choose from, especially when I have seen so many Meganob units get bogged down or screened by light units with a lot of models even in comp, and this could be a solution to that, especially with Ghaz. Heck, even against heavy armies, when you are running Ghaz, +1 to wound means you are wounding heavy units on a 2+ anyway with extra strength in the waagh, making twin-linked fairly redundant. The options for Meganobz are so few that even the Power Klaw/ Killsaw combo when you can only use one, could potentially be viable. Having that extra option to deal with lighter/medium toughness units with a lot of models could actually be the play, as a lot of armies send rank and file to slow down Meganobz, and this could be the play to get rid of them, even only being able to use 1 melee option, which I still don't fully understand.... ( I feel like they could make a rule saying that if you use both weapon profiles, decrease the number of attacks by X amount or something).

[@loveraman9252]

Runtherd is not a character, so no enhancements allowed😉.

[@whos-your-mate]

I loved and hated that game 😂👌

[@mrviking8450]

ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS ORKS

[@MrRemingt0n]

First! Love you guys!

[@silencia08]

Smort Ork R Bezt Ork

[@marjohnbuncio2782]

Spider needs to stop charging T1 like a goober, and learn to stage. And Beard completely missing out lethal hits on a ton of guns. FFS lol

[@tabletoptactics]

I wanted to get control of the board quickly in turn 1, hence the aggressive play. This has always been successful with me when using Orks, especially against an army that has redeploy shenanigans like the Deathwatch do :)

[@gloriustancredwargame6439]

Hum lootas can't shoot at 4+, max 5+

[@matthewcheeseman6453]

Their weapons have heavy, so if they don't move they are on 5+, and orders in this detachment can give an additional +1

[@DanthebobGaming]

@@matthewcheeseman6453 But the +1 doesn't stack. Dice can only ever be modified by + or - 1 after all effects are considered

[@tabletoptactics]

Ah yes I think you’re right. I assumed the order increased the BS by 1 rather than adding 1 to hit, so they can stack. This makes the order really only effective on Flashgitz then I think? 🤔

[@matthewcheeseman6453]

​@@DanthebobGaming you are absolutely correct, I had misremembered the detachment rule!

[@philipnewton6444]

Do you guys just let Lawrence win because he's the boss?

[@tabletoptactics]

What about the times I lose then? Of course no one lets me win 🤣

[@ksonss]

Exterminatus!!

[@coryandrews3947]

Never call a turn 1 waagh if you arent running warbikes with a wartrike and follow me lads. You need to get the majority of their army within a good advance and charge range to get the most out of the waaagh. Turn 2-3, after that your army is too small for it to matter before that your not close enough to do damage

[@jkhan1770]

Orks never follow da rules Waaaaaaaaagh!

[@dras-pv8qv]

Orks won by over 30 VP. First turn waaagh put immense early pressure and kept DW from primaries. So it was the right call.

[@dairewoods2544]

We're here for a good time not a tactical time

[@tabletoptactics]

My thinking was it would be better to control the board early, given Deathwatch’s redeploy abilities :) 🕷️

[@treytison1444]

Always first turn waagh