New Everlast Cyclone 212 Is not working! (Fixed the Video!)

My new Everlast 212 was DOA. Everlast wants me to test a few things... We will see if it is something simple.

[@ScottHamilton-ys2cm]

Get an RTA and Send it back. The more you touch, the more it will be shaped by them as something you did. I am very experienced at troubleshooting, but that is the responsibility of EVERLAST. Listen to Don

[@10swatkins]

you should have watched the end of the video :)

[@jdmccorful]

@@10swatkins did, and Don's still right!

[@ScottHamilton-ys2cm]

You are right Sir. I will watch it to the end. My Dad and I bought a cheap air hammer at a local discount auto parts store. It worked for less than a minute, then it stopped hammering, and only hissed air. I wanted to return it, but my Dad told me if I did, I would have learned nothing. He took it apart and discovered that a machined relief was omitted. He machined the part, and we used it almost daily for the next 20 years.@@10swatkins

[@rbelang8331]

It's good that you share that sort of experience with equipment... At least, we know that a new one will be on it's way. Statisticly speaking, the new one should be okay...

[@melgross]

We’ll see. Usually a company will take your credit card number, send you a new machine and only bill you if the old one doesn’t arrive after some time. I would send it as a registered receipt so that they have to sign for it so they can’t say it never came.

[@waynep343]

Don. My brother was a chief engineer at several recording studios. Motown then years later larrabee. He had a clients console laying on its back with all the 22 gauge solid copper interconnect cables cut out. Fix one 3 more break. The owner comes in and almost faints when he sees every wire cut out of this console. I worked perfect after new stranded wires and a lot of fresh caps.

[@donmadere4237]

Got to do what ya got to do sometimes

[@dnechodom]

I got the PowerTIG 200DV a year ago; it's been solid since day one. My only gripe is the position of the gas inlet port; it's dead-center in back, so the bottle will pinch the hose. I did go to Harbor Freight & bought the MIGMAX 215 at the same time; it's still going strong.

[@10swatkins]

I hate the on/ off switches being in the back! My miller 141 had them in the front...

[@transmitterguy478]

18 years ago I bought a Hypertherm GT1000 plasma cutter and before the warranty was out the thing started smoking while I was using it one day. I took it to my dealer and they sent it to warranty repair. A few weeks later I got it back and it has worked well ever since. They told me they got a bad batch of IGBT modules from China. I still use it today. I bought a rotary welding table 2 years ago and when I plugged it in it would not turn. I took the cover off the control box and a connector came off the power board, I plugged it in and it worked well. I bought an Everlast tig, stick unit with a cooler 6 years ago and it works well today.

[@donmadere4237]

Mine is 6 years old and I’ve never had an issue with it.

[@10swatkins]

It's everything these days.... The whole reason I am trying this one out is my Miller screwed up :)

[@ypaulbrown]

Steve, finally finished watching the whole video.......glad you got thru to sales and someone to help you.... hopefully they will get you fixed up.....thanks for the shout out by the way......Paul....

[@10swatkins]

I hope so too

[@timnuzum9116]

I've been on a fence for about a year thinking about buying one of these everlast machines. This video kind of makes up my mind for me.

[@KennyEaton603]

Yeah, if a company told me to troubleshoot their junk, that would be the last thing they ever said to me.

[@melgross]

If it’s a new machine, they should just exchange it, no questions asked. Usually you get anywhere from 15 days to 30 to do that, afterwards it’s a warrantee repair. That’s customer service and also, marketing.

[@Mikael5732]

Drive a Lincoln, drink a Miller, but weld with an HTP!

[@MrSprintcat]

They have millions of these welders out there working just fine . Where do you think all of the boards are made for the others ?

[@KennyEaton603]

@@MrSprintcat so do plenty of other companies that will actually provide you with customer service if you do have a problem. I’m not buying anything from a company that expects me to troubleshoot a brand new purchase.

[@motorhead4663]

Everlast welders are solid. I ran one every day for 2.5 years in an industrial setting. Take into account though how much they kicked around during shipping? Not entirely Everlasts fault. Their customer service is great though, usually really fast about getting back to the customer and tech support knows what the hell they are talking about. Will walk you through troubleshooting. Do me a favor, buy a $4000 miller equivalent and let me know how long it takes to get a reply from them when it breaks. Let me know how long it’s down for while waiting on parts. Everlast will have a new part shipped out to you immediately and you’ll be back up and running in a day or two. Speaking from experience. Better yet, try and get any troubleshooting procedures from miller… I’ve been welding with millers for two decades and never seen one. It’s nice to get those instructions with pictures.

[@thedevilinthecircuit1414]

I'd like to see a schematic for that; I'll bet it has more than one PTC polyfuse on one or more of those boards. They are designed to be self-resetting, but sometimes they're a crib death in new devices. When they destructively pop (they blow out the side), certain functions fail.

[@10swatkins]

Hey, do you think this is the 1950 and 1960's ?????? See a schematic ,,, That's just crazy talk right there :)

[@KennyEaton603]

I’ve got a PrimeWeld TIG and it’s been solid since day one. If my Lincoln MIG ever dies, that too will be a PrimeWeld. I think Everlast started off well and have let the quality slip over time.

[@donmadere4237]

Yes I bought one 6 years ago and has worked great!

[@KennyEaton603]

@@donmadere4237 is this the real “Don”? Love when you and Steve get together. And I agreed with you on that welder, no way I’m dealing with that. Send a new one!

[@hfdzl]

At least they are making an attempt to satisfy a new machine nogo. Time will tell. Still, my mantra, Red or blue!

[@10swatkins]

Well I have had 2 of this class machines from blue, bothe have given trouble. One from Red years ago gave me trouble... So what is a guy to do?

[@ronaldbollinger440]

You sure are level headed about this, (notice I did not say you have a flat head),(lol), Anyone could get a dud. Nice to see you give them a chance to redeem them selves. Hopefully it will turn out OK, if not take Don's (or is it Donna now?) unit, it was all his fault anyway. You guys are great entertainment and every now and then I learn something. Thanks!

[@donmadere4237]

Nope no Donna just need a haircut!! Lol

[@jamesratliff5164]

Years ago I had a Peavey mixer board that stopped making any sound. I called Peavey and they set me up with one of their engineers. He ask me if I was comfortable with opening up the Mixer. I said yes. So he told me how to open it up and call him back when I had it open. So maybe 20 minutes later I had it open and called him back. He told me how to check some of the parts. After several calls and different checks I made on parts everything I had checked was reading normal and good. The engineer said OK I think there is only one thing it can be. He said I think you have an output jack that has a cold solder joint. He said take the Jacks out of the back of the cabinet, He said I bet that is your cold joint. I took the nuts off the output jacks and one of them would just spin on the output wire it was supposed to be soldered to. I have had several pieces of Peavey equipment over the years. They have been good to work with.

[@10swatkins]

Sounds good to me..... Only Difference is Everlast just sent me a email with the pictures ! Never asked about my skills or anything .....

[@ianmoone2359]

Oh yeah, I started watching 18 months back when you & Don were going to rebuild your Bridgeport Mill, because I had just bought mine & was keen to learn all about the inner workings. 18 months later, I’m still non the wiser. I could die of old age waiting for you two clowns to get your act together & get back to completing the Bridgeport build. Perhaps I need to come back in another lifetime? 🤷‍♂️😜🙄😂😂🇦🇺

[@KennyEaton603]

You do realize Steve has a life that doesn’t revolve around you, correct? He also isn’t obligated to rush a project to conform to your desired timeframe. He has explained why it’s not done repeatedly. One of the more selfish comments I’ve seen on here. Get over yourself.

[@donmadere4237]

I’m always telling him to finish the Bridgeport’.

[@ianmoone2359]

@@donmadere4237 I know Don, you actually get stuff done. Look at the progress on your workshop extension. 👍👍👍

[@ianmoone2359]

@@KennyEaton603 Ohh C’mon, he’s like an ADHD kid, easily distracted. 😜😂😂😉

[@KennyEaton603]

@@ianmoone2359 nah, he’s got a lot going on and little time to deal with it. I do the same. Start one project, end up needing something to complete that project so I have to work on something else, it’s never ending.

[@AlmostMachining]

Steve i think you made a good choice. They are backing the priduct. I hope the replacement works as intended. I hope it then works for at least 5 years. Ive considered them for my first new welder purchase and this set of videos has scared me.

[@donmadere4237]

Mine is 6 years old and has worked flawlessly.

[@AlmostMachining]

@@donmadere4237 yeah i know they are good. Just odd to have this one doa

[@johnbenjamin1565]

hi I have a neverlast (Everlast) tig welder that is a tig, stick and plasma it was outside of the warranty by a month. It had been used a only several times for quick field repair work less than one hour run time total. It is a 50 amp plasma. I tested it before taking it on a field job and the plasma burned up with cloud of electrical smoke and the sound of dying squirrels. I called Neverlast and they told me that if I bought another new welder they would fix the broken one for for 500 dollars. I bought the new welder for about 2000 dollars and sent the burned out one back in the same box as the new one came in to repair. I had to pay freight. They made a big deal about only send the welder back in original packing. I asked for a box and they told me that they did not have any boxes which are required to return to the welder for repair. After several months it came back in a different box that was not intended for the welder and it was not packed properly. They changed the circuit board with a different used board. I am not sure if is even the same welder.The rear bezel was shattered and from not being packed properly. The welder bezel in the rear was covered with automotive primer in the air inlet. We do not paint here in our shop. The fan had a cracked fan blade and it flew off when I powered up after it came back from repair. When I tested it and the plasma worked but the tig would not start with high frequency. The high frequency worked when I returned it for a dead plasma. They then wanted me to send it back at my expense so they could remove the circuit board and return it with no circuit board. HMM???? I complained loudly and sent them an email saying I was going to sue for breach of contract. They then refunded the 500 dollars but not the return freight I paid to repair it and have it returned to me. They then said they were going to cancel the warranty on the new welder If I did not return the welder that they did not fix so they could take the circuit board out of it.. I had my lawyer send them a letter saying if they would do that we would sue them for breach of agreement. They then said they would not cancel the warranty. They then told me that they would not repair the welder I sent to have repaired and would not return the original circuit board. The new plasma torch for the new welder did not work as there were no springs behind the contacts in the torch head. They then sent me a plasma torch with no contacts and no springs. I complained again that the torch was not complete and it did not have the contacts or springs. The sales manger sent the repair parts division an email which included an email to me that indicated that the torch was not complete and I was a PIA. Hmm?? I sent the guy an email to explain to me what a PIA customer was?????? In 50 years I have 10 electric welders here and have never had this kind of adventure with a welding machine vendor. The new welder worked on one aerial job and I really do not want to use it for anything that important. I do not trust anything made by Everlast at all. I managed to fix the HF in the original welder. I did not want to tear all the circuit boards out as the HF appears to have parts on multiple boards on both sides of welder. The gas valve worked so I put in a timing relay across the coil of the gas valve that turns on the HF and now it works with a 1 1/2 seconds turn on when when the gas valve turns on. The HF circuit works like the circuits in one of my Miller transformer aircrafter tig welders. It fires the arc starts and then hf turns off after 1 1/2 seconds. I bought the welders to do aerial work and they did not cost 13000 like a Miller Dynasty. I bought a new fan from some guy in Taiwan on the internet and it works fine. No schematics, no service manual and a huge problem getting parts. I am not impressed with Everlast. I think these are hobby welders not suitable for industrial use. JB

[@10swatkins]

That sounds pretty bad, in fact really bad...

[@paulpipitone8357]

Did you know that Everlast is world renowned in the boating community... That welder is great as an anchor weight... the fact that they asked you to open the machine and asked you to trouble shoot the machine is insane its a brand new machine they should have sent you the entire setup and asked you to return the unit... i will do not mind buying overseas equipment but the customer service has to be on par with a US counterpart.... they are hard to come by but they are out there.... Buyer beware.... it cost you to delay a job not worth the hassle.

[@10swatkins]

Damn,, all I have left is a canoe and a leaking pond... Really don't need a boat anchor anymore :(

[@ypaulbrown]

YA KILLIN' ME STEVE......@@10swatkins

[@melgross]

It’s true. I had bought a new ESAB 215 a number of years ago and somehow the front handle had a gouge. I called them about it to see if I could get a new handle, and they wanted me to send it back for a replacement. I finally got them to just send me a handle. Yeah, that’s good service. Once you send a machine back, it’s no longer new and they can only sell it as used, even if there’s nothing wrong.

[@scottresch9912]

Everlast is a Canadian company not a Chinese company.

[@walterplummer3808]

Way better with the picture. Thanks for fixing it.

[@10swatkins]

No problem! I have NO idea what happened... JUst took me 4 hours to get it fixed :(

[@wilsonlaidlaw]

I think expecting a customer to do all this is ridiculous. The next thing is that when you find it is actually broken, they refuse to take it back because the seals on one of the plugs have been broken. In UK English, this would be called a "Gotcha". Hope you get it sorted Steve. When our air fryer died after a couple of weeks and its carton had been tidied into the recycling, the maker arranged that the courier coming to collect the dead one to take away for inspection, would bring a packing carton with him, which he did.

[@10swatkins]

Thanks, I will get it sorted or they get even worse reputation :)

[@gorak9000]

"Gotcha" translates from Engligh to Murican as "Gotcha" - we "gotcha" that one too!

[@ellieprice363]

What and where is “Murican”?

[@jamesfino7962]

What would they do if you probed the wrong thing and blew something? Thanks for the video. Never Everlast!

[@southmaplegarage]

Sell you a board

[@melgross]

@@southmaplegarageand send it to your funeral. It can be buried with you.

[@thomaschandler8036]

Check the mother board. I have a Forney that looks like yours. All it would do is click. They told me it was the motor that drives the motor. That wasn’t the problem. Turns out it was the mother board that had shorted out. Then they told me you couldn’t get parts for it anymore. So I scrapped it.

[@10swatkins]

We did a lot of checks..... It is being replaced..

[@4GSR]

You should have shopped at Harbor Freight!😁😵‍💫

[@10swatkins]

Just Stir the Pot....

[@4GSR]

Hehe! After what you are going through, I'm glad I didn't buy one. Not yet anyways. Thanks for sharing Steve.@@10swatkins

[@Mikael5732]

If I was there I would take those measurements for you. 👍🏻

[@10swatkins]

I was shocked they wanted ANYONE to do those measurements!

[@geoffmathieson2643]

Goodness me. You two and power electronics. Like giving Colonel Sanders your chickens to mind when you go on holidays.

[@10swatkins]

😁

[@gorak9000]

When you come back, he just says "the chickens were finger licking good..." and you don't have a chicken problem anymore...

[@pipereed1]

Vevor ain’t so bad. It was like Vertex in the mid to late 90’s. It was “Chinese crap” until a lot of people started using them. Kurtis at Cutting Edge in Australia has a tone of Vertex tools. I had a dividing head made by Vertex and now I have a Vevor dividing head and it’s fairly good.

[@gorak9000]

That's interesting - I never knew "vertex" was similar to "vevor" - somehow it had been established as a high end brand in my head from how people talk about them (and or the prices of those dividing heads / rotary tables, even used). Never would've guessed that they were just a reseller that slapped their name on stuff. Amazing how one can build the entirely wrong intuitive picture of a brand based on not much evidence! I guess that's what Vevor is aiming for too - in 20 or 30 years, they'll be a "high end" brand compared to the junk available at the time!

[@melgross]

Vevor has nothing to do with Vertex. Vevor is cheap Chinese equipment, which may be good, and maybe junk. They make nothing, just relabel generic products with a VEVOR label. I have some of their stuff and some is good and some is junk. Vertex is made in Taiwan and is high quality. It’s the main brand of MSC. They make their products, which include $25,000 lathes and mills.

[@garthdaddy7438]

They have sent you instructions for a different welder. your digital controller is not sending signals to your power section.

[@donmadere4237]

Agreed I just wanted to make sure it wasn’t a loose connector from shipping

[@rossilake218]

Steve, Don't mess with my Buddy Don. You be nice to him or i Drive down from Chicago and weld all your machines together. Some China is good and some bad. You need to charge your time to Everlast.

[@donmadere4237]

You tell him!!!

[@10swatkins]

Make sure you get the Texas Visa when you come... They are only 500.00 and I will be happy to supply one if you can't find one...

[@Mikael5732]

Should have bought an HTP. Hey, there is a HTP Invertig in the background. The HTP Pro Pulse is on sale.

[@10swatkins]

I do like my HTP.

[@gorak9000]

If it doesn't have spark, did you try cleaning the points? Are you sure the flywheel key isn't sheared?? :)

[@TheUncleRuckus]

😂😂

[@10swatkins]

I even checked the air in the tires and wiper fluid!

[@DavidWilliams-rn6uq]

Oh! I see the problem, then - you didn’t refill the blinker fluid!

[@samrodian919]

Ha ha ha!

[@donmadere4237]

Naw it’s a diesel! Lol

[@roberts.wilson1848]

LOL, you send that shit back and get a full refund if it doesn't work. You don't try to identify the defect, as the client.

[@donmadere4237]

That’s what I say!!

[@MyLilMule]

Seriously, PrimeWeld would have already sent you a new machine with a return shipping label. You can put as much lipstick on that pig, it's still an Everlast.

[@10swatkins]

Honestly I had forgotten about Primeweld... I have a cutter of theirs... I now have to find or make a box to ship this thing back in, wait on a snail mail letter with a return label and then ship it to them before they will send another.

[@davidphillips7321]

Steve, You Should Have Bought a Blue "Miller" - Not Chinese Crap... Oh, Where is Everlast's Service Dept - China ? Good Luck on That...

[@donmadere4237]

It’s in California

[@gorak9000]

And you think Miller isn't made in China too? Maybe they do the final assembly and stick the "Made in Murica" sticker on it somewhere in the US, but all of the parts are of "foreign origin". You just get to pay a premium (aka double) for some schmuck in the US to put a few screws in

[@rodwright225]

Brand new welder that doesn't work and want you to fix their problem , unbelievable and really sad situation . 60 year old lincoln works everyday

[@jamesdrake2378]

you can do their QC and R&D for free and then project manage the entire deal

[@donmadere4237]

And send them a bill!!!

[@stevenslater2669]

No way would I do the troubleshooting on a brand new electrical device. After you send it back, they tell you, “You let the smoke leak out so you own it.”

[@gorak9000]

It no workie - take it back nah

[@10swatkins]

I figured I had nothing to lose, they gave me permission and I was videoing everything :)

[@TBJK07Jeep]

At 16:59, it looks like the connector isn’t fully seated. It has the yellow wires on it.

[@10swatkins]

It was locked in place and has the red sealer on it... A new one is supposed to be on the way.

[@TBJK07Jeep]

@@10swatkins Kinda strange to see Dykem Cross-Check on wiring connectors. I see it all the time on hardware in the equipment I work on for my day job. Makes me wonder if they over did it & the Crosscheck is insulating the connection

[@markellis6886]

It looks like dons hair is growing back. old rockers never die they just grow old.

[@donmadere4237]

Yeah and I be old lol!

[@bcbloc02]

You get a lot of lemons but usually you go back for more so hopefully the next one holds up like rock 3 or 4 or whatever its up to. LOL

[@10swatkins]

It's Rock 2 ! Just over two years old now and 101,000 miles.... Hasn't even been close to a repair shop, 75% of the brake pads left and running fine... Now seeing as how Rock 2 is the 17th chevy truck I have owned and driven a 1 in 17 lemon ratio is not bad :)

[@cncdavenz]

Send them a link to your video and see what happens.😁

[@10swatkins]

I figure they will find it soon enough... I try to be fair and give an honest evaluation of companies and what treatment the everyday Joe will receive from them.

[@engineerwrecker8153]

Dear Everlast Don happened -Steve

[@donmadere4237]

Lol

[@10swatkins]

There is probably something in the fine print about Don.....

[@willemvantsant5105]

I have a similar unit made by the Shanghai Lincoln electric company. The internal plastic hose which feeds the mig gas rotted out, replaced it with silicon hose Your unit is not firing the IGBT, Isolated Gate Bipolar Transistors. I don't have a circuit diagram with mine so cannot fault find if it fails. Probably ends up in the recycle bin. Fingers crossed

[@donmadere4237]

I agree everything works except the output section

[@johnbenjamin1565]

Neverlast welders wiring design on the tig welders I have are difficult to work on. Single functions have parts on multiple boards and the wiring harness is a mess to deal with. No wire numbers and the color code for the wiring makes no sense. Maybe we can make a video of shooting up a neverlast welder loaded with big bang powder? To figure out where the wires go requires taking the welder almost completely apart. What could go wrong with solder joints that are cold and a bunch of cheap connectors that attach to the circuit boards. I really doubt if one of these is taken apart it would every work right again? JB

[@10swatkins]

You just have to use a bigger hammer on them :)

[@robertfontaine3650]

There is no such thing as liability when dealing w/ chinese products. You are on your own. :)

[@10swatkins]

I know... But almost everything is Chinese ... Hell Amazon has stopped put Country of Origin on most of the products now days :(

[@robertfontaine3650]

@@10swatkins Whether something is manufactured in China is not the same as who provides the warranty and QA. Often the tool for multiple brands comes off the same manufacturing line but the QA and warranty service is the value add provided that the chinese manufacturer has no interest in. They have a different model in buying products in China. The model is basically cash for goods, shipping not the responsibility of the shipper. It doesn't match the rest of the world where service and warranty make up a huge component of the price of goods sold.

[@tacticalrabbit308]

Much better video worked this time

[@scottjones7279]

Time to take Don back to the barber 😅

[@10swatkins]

What have you got against my Barber? :)

[@rspicer3505]

You know you should read manual for process setup before running issye that may be operator. Check the plus minus by the feeder.

[@donmadere4237]

We did it is just not putting out any voltage

[@rspicer3505]

No it is to connect to the minus for flux welding. PER THE MANUAL. You are wired to the plus connection

[@10swatkins]

IT's not putting out ANY voltage on any setting, even stick.... IT will to flux core on +, just looks like crap.... Ask me how I know :)

[@ianmoone2359]

Am I missing something? Isn’t that flat piece of cardboard box you have the machine laying on, the flattened out cardboard box it came in? 🤷‍♂️ That’s what it looked like to me, but admittedly I am a member of the short attention span theatre group & yeah I fell asleep somewhere in the middle and woke up sometime later with Kurtis from Cutting Edge line boring something, & had to go back to where I nodded off half way through & watch again, so I mighta missed something. To be truthful - it was like watching two old dogs tryn ya hump a baseball if I’m to be Frank’s. Send it back & get your cash back & buy a Miller. 👍

[@gorak9000]

No, he mentioned briefly that that box was from a large poster or a picture or something - if you look closely, that sheet of cardboard is one that has many creases in it so you can fold up the box to match the size of the thing being shipped, not the original box from the welder.

[@Mikael5732]

Buy an HTP

[@johnlee8231]

I'd give them another chance too. If the next one is junk too then its refund time. We all get unlucky sometimes.

[@gorak9000]

Part of the cost savings of cheaper brands is YOU are the QC guy - you get it, unbox it, and test it for them. If it doesn't work, they send you another one, and they still come out money way ahead in not having their own QC department. As an EE / technical guy, I'm rather intrigued that they sent you troubleshooting steps to try, but as a normal person, it's rather horrifying that they asked a rando consumer to take the cover off and do their troubleshooting for them... that's an odd one...

[@donmadere4237]

@@gorak9000hey I’ll do that to save 1500 dollars any day

[@10swatkins]

They are sending a replacement.

[@MrSprintcat]

Check the output on the PO s.😅😅😂😂 I'm so glad I still have my Miller185 I was gonna buy this machine. Give me one good reason to buy this 1 and I will not.

[@johnb5519]

You didn't try giving it the old Fonzi punch.

[@donmadere4237]

I did when Steve wasn’t looking! Lol

[@johnb5519]

Looks like a nice machine, just bad luck.@@donmadere4237

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

Good video steve

[@10swatkins]

Thanks!

[@camojoe2]

Steve, I've watched you for a while and been a sub most of that time. I respect your knowledge and abilities, but I gotta say, you f*CKED up this time Bubba. Yeh. you saved some long green, but how much did the repair cost you? That cheap Chinese junk saves nothing in the long run. If it's broke right outta the box, how long will it work in the field? What blows me away is the company wants you to trouble shoot this rig, then report back to them. A reputable company would tell you to send it back, postage paid. Regards, Duck

[@10swatkins]

I too am blown away by them wanting me to trouble shoot to this degree.. Maybe the guy that sent those instructions was new and just not thinking, I don't know. So far the "repair" has cost me nothing really. I have a 255 Miller and a Hypertherm Tig that I could have thrown into the trailer to weld up the job, but the Miller Bobcat that is mounted in the trailer worked perfectly fine, just not as easy as a mig would have... I do things on this channel to share with people. How else would we find the better companies and products? Don has had an Everlast Mig for 7 years with no problems, Weld.com says they are great machines. Both sources I considered reputable so when faced with spending 2700.00 or 1000.00 what should I do? Not believe anyone? I had a 140 Miller about 20 years ago that gave me fits also, should I stop buying Miller because of that bad experience that really did cost me a lot of time and money? Anyway a replacement should be here Monday :)

[@ahndeux]

Sticking your hand in that PCB at 17:13 with capacitors charged up at 240V is a very BAD idea unless you are a trained electronics expert. It's a one way ticket to instant death if your body is touching the ground on the welder table and you touch the positive end of the capacitor. A 10-100A jolt at 240V even for a short instance will not be good for your heart. You need to bleed off those capacitor charges first after the unit has been unplugged. Those caps will ruin your day very quickly if you put your fingers in the wrong spot. You will have an early retirement. At least Everlast put in a clear plastic shield, but make sure you know what you are doing before sticking your fingers inside of a welder box. Many of the Chinese brands don't even put shields, so you better know what you are doing. When the guy was sticking his finger on the board at 17:13, the only thing preventing instant death is that plastic shield.

[@10swatkins]

Don is a electronic engineer and has a major in electronics... Thanks for worrying about us !

[@bernardwill7196]

Does you clamp the roll to minus?. I remember the last video. I ran in the same problem with a new IGBT welder, but I was lucky and had a expirienced welder by my side.

[@10swatkins]

IT was changes to - , no difference.... In this case a guy with a degree in electronics by my side is better than a welder :)

[@donmadere4237]

Naw the stick function has no voltage. It should at least spark in either polarity. We tried all functions, no worky

[@bernardwill7196]

@@10swatkins Ok ,this should by a tip. Now Everlast can give you a new United.:-)

[@Dane33781]

I would rather use an old Miller any day.

[@10swatkins]

I had an old Miller that this is suppose to replace... I wasted about 6 hours on jobs trying to make it work and decided it was time for a new machine . I like Miller just not the prices anymore..

[@Dane33781]

@@10swatkins I can't afford a new Miller welder either. I have an older syncrowave that I traded an engine for.

[@Mikael5732]

Boca teeca??? Are you guys in Boca Raton?

[@donmadere4237]

No Boca Chita south Texas that’s where space x launches

[@Mikael5732]

@@donmadere4237 Oh okay. Thanks. Thought you were local, bout got in my truck to help you.

[@TheUncleRuckus]

If Don gets a full sex change you'd have to change all your signs and shirts to _it's all Donna's Fault_ 😆🤣👍👍 Yeah I jest would've sent it back and got a replacement.

[@donmadere4237]

Ahhh no that’s not gonna happen lol. I just need a haircut!

[@gorak9000]

@@donmadere4237 It's not the hair - I think you missed steve's commentary at 19:18 when you're leaning a little too close for comfort over the board!

[@donmadere4237]

@@gorak9000 it’s just old man Titties lol

[@melgross]

What Everlast had you do is typical for them. No manufacturer should ever expect the customer open their machine and take measurements. They generally try to have the customer make tests and measurements, sometimes, according to those doing it, over again. One guy who has a welding channel had serious problems trying to get them to take the machine for warrantee. After they finally did, it took 6 months and a number of calls to get it back, with the same problem. I know they give a lot of channels machines, which is how they got name recognition. Ethics have always been a problem for them. There are a lot of shills for them pretending they have their machines and showing up in the comments. Channels that get these for free, remember - free, do so on condition that they praise the machines. You can tell who these are by the phrases they use before making their welds. Something usually like; “I’m going to weld this using my Everlast 200ex 521 - a great machine!” That tells you they got it for free.

[@10swatkins]

I let the chips fall where they may if I take in a machine for a demo video. Period. People deserve to know the truth.. I get 5 offers a week to demo some product... So far I have only done one and that was after I told them I would not sugar coat it...

[@melgross]

@@10swatkins oh, I trust you. You’re too ornery to be influenced. That’s why we love you guys.

[@stevenmeadows6493]

I alike that they will let me fix it instead of shipping it back and worrying about it getting destroyed in shipping, they have always been good about helping me get the problem fixed . I have a shop full of Everlast products

[@melgross]

@@stevenmeadows6493 it’s not that they let you, they require you to. Most people can’t do that. It’s not a proper guarantee.

[@AMetalWorks]

You're making a ton of assumptions without any facts to backup your claims. Are their youtubers that get "free" machines? Yes. But the number of free machines given out isn't anywhere near what you think. Everlast has made a name for itself because of how the company is run and they sell quality machines. #1 I've been a happy customer of Everlast since 2012 when I bought my i-mig 200. Oleg the owner of the company called me directly after I complained publicly about not getting a response to an email I sent to them. He gave me a small discount with zero strings attached. A few months later I bought a Power Plasma 50 from them at full price. A few months later he offered to send me a Powertig 210EXT tig welder on a hand shake agreement to pay him when I could. Again, no strings attached. No contract no nothing other than a verbal agreement to pay him. I still have all 3 machines and they work perfectly. My youtube channel really didn't get going until I bought the i-mig 200. Was there some sort of incentive to work with me? Yeah I guess. Not much of one considering my channel was brand new. Last week I purchased a cyclone 262 from them. It should be here soon. I paid their asking price for it. I didn't ask for a discount or any special treatment. Why? Because I weld to fab tech a couple years ago and finally met Oleg (the owner) and Mark (one of their employees). I consider both of them friends. I've watched this company grow from basically the beginning. I see their effort and their very public customer service on FB. So I promote them as a friend that want to see them keep growing and doing well. I expect nothing and have received nothing in exchange for that. I'm a happy customer. As for the tech support. It's some of the best I've ever seen or delt with. My i-mig 200 blew a board a few weeks after my 5 year warranty. Oleg had me check a few things inside and then had me send it back to them. Even out of warranty they repaired it for free. And it's been running fine ever since. I've had no issues with either of my other machines. However I've seen them bend over backward for unruly customers even when they were wrong. The owner is very accessible too. Try to get that from the red or blue companies. The mind set pf having a customer work on their own machine is to get them back up in running fast. If you as a customer don't feel comfortable working inside of the welders. Simply send it back to them for repair and they'll take care of it. Here is an example. I have the first generation 210 ext tig welder. Mine is very different than the current models. I wanted the new Nova pedal but they didn't sell it for the first gen version. They were willing to work with me on adapting one of the pedal to work with my machine. This was after I bought the pedal that I thought I needed, and it didn't work with my machine. I simply contacted them. They had me send it back on their dime once they sent me the replacement pedel. Then they worked with me on the phone to help me wire up the plug to work with my machine. The red or blue companies would never do that. And good luck getting them to repair anything. It's a nightmare of a process because they have dealers that are expected to be the middle man. I for one am extremely grateful for their willingness to educate their customers on how their machines work. Eventually all these machine will be out of warranty. Having some knowledge of how they work will help keep them alive for many years to come. I've thrown several welders and one plasma cutter in the trash because they were out of warranty and the cost of repair was higher than replacement. One red, one blue, and one hypertherm. So to each their own. I'm a fan of the company, their products, and I consider the owner and Mark a personal friend even though I have only met them in person one time.

[@klaasbloem]

Everlast, good name for a defective piece of equipment 😂😂😂

[@danielsplayhouse3804]

If you would have got you a primeweld if you had a problem they would have sent you a new machine...

[@10swatkins]

I would think all of the companies would... I was really surprised when they wanted me to tear their machine apart... This is turning into a good test of Everlast stepping up to the plate.

[@W4BIN]

Please spray a bit of WD40 on the hinges or create a late night horror show. Ron W4BIN

[@10swatkins]

Can't ... That sound keeps the wife from sneaking up on me!

[@gorak9000]

@@10swatkins You could put one of those infrared dorbells with a beam across the door that they use in stores that goes "DING DONG - HERROW" when you walk through instead of the squeaky hinge...

[@rodwright225]

Really pisses me off , please forgive my language

[@donmadere4237]

Yup

[@rodwright225]

Not meant to be repaired 🤪

[@carlhitchon1009]

Modern times. You bought it, your problem.

[@10swatkins]

Well, maybe... There is a RMA in the works

[@carlhitchon1009]

@@10swatkins Good for you. But then again, you can tell everybody their product is crap. Power.

[@Videowatcher2.0]

I like your machining content, not a fan ok this direction

[@10swatkins]

Sorry, This channel is sort of "what goes around in the shop". Sort of a real life look into what goes on every day... It's always going to have a mix as things come up...

[@austindorris7066]

Everlast is based out of California

[@10swatkins]

Yep

[@ypaulbrown]

I was warned about them thar LGBT mating machines........

[@2packs4sure]

If Don goes in for a full sex change I'm unsubscribing !! lol

[@gorak9000]

It's all Donna's fault

[@TheUncleRuckus]

🤣

[@2packs4sure]

Woof !! lol @@gorak9000

[@donmadere4237]

Hey I just need a haircut! No sex change is gonna happen!!! Lol

[@2packs4sure]

Lol @@donmadere4237