'New form of Christianity in Britain led to evangelical attacks on Hinduism',says author Manu Pillai

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@AjiDn1
@AjiDn1 Ай бұрын
Manu Pillai became what he is today because of modern education brought to India by the Christian missionaries and his studies in Britain.
@rahuljagarwal153
@rahuljagarwal153 Ай бұрын
ok but xtians looted kllled r@ped millions of Hindus and became rich which provided missionries the money to carry out policies beneficial for the xtian pope empire. How did missionaries brought modern education to Bharat ? when they had kllled people for saying earth was round/ revolved round the sun? The expansionist political monotheistic relgion was made separate from state hence modern education was possible & not due to missionaries. Missionries i.e religion was ther with state which led to decline in science & development. There is a massive difference in wat u r saying & wat history is.
@vinodhvp1
@vinodhvp1 Ай бұрын
British didn't come India to give education. They came to convert and loot. They won in both aspects upto some extent.They used education, either for conversion or to create clerks whom they can use for looting. Modern education would have come to India even if missionaries didn't entered India. And adding to your point, missionaries were actually against modern science, because modern science didn't approve Bible .
@dineshthakur3947
@dineshthakur3947 Ай бұрын
By destroying Indian Gurukul in lakhs to spread english n British education to make Indians mental slaves of British Empire for centuries. And They succeeded to great extent.
@kiranpeter5630
@kiranpeter5630 Ай бұрын
No this will never be appreciated
@dhruvatablaboy348
@dhruvatablaboy348 23 күн бұрын
India has its own gurukul system before
@emersonlakra9771
@emersonlakra9771 18 күн бұрын
And what about attacks on Christians in India? About Conversion, if it is forced why people from India of different faiths not converting in Christianity when they start living in Europe, US, UK Australia etc?
@windssn3z
@windssn3z 13 күн бұрын
Love how whenever we speak about injustices u did throughout the years on us u Abrahmics suddenly become the victim😂🤣
@Nature-xn3dp
@Nature-xn3dp 13 күн бұрын
What happened to all other Indigenous cultures and belief systems of Europe , Australia, America?? Who destroyed and killed them? You are in fools paradise you ricebag convert.
@adityachebrolu1992
@adityachebrolu1992 12 күн бұрын
google Goan inquestion by Portuguese buddy
@windssn3z
@windssn3z 12 күн бұрын
@adityachebrolu1992 They won't! They love to victimize themselves!
@windssn3z
@windssn3z 12 күн бұрын
@@adityachebrolu1992 they won't they love to victimize themselves
@jayllukeethu4414
@jayllukeethu4414 Ай бұрын
Please talk about caste discrimination and how people were treated and denied access to education and healthcare.
@unitedmelodies1053
@unitedmelodies1053 Ай бұрын
Yes castisem was the downfall for the whole system
@ultimateversion10
@ultimateversion10 Ай бұрын
nothing like chattel slavery,
@Dheeraj-y4f
@Dheeraj-y4f Ай бұрын
'Caste' is a word orginated in europe. None of indian scripts had 'caste' mentioned
@o..o5030
@o..o5030 Ай бұрын
Learn about social class system which is caste 💯 it existed around the world and continue to exist today 💯
@athiramn
@athiramn 22 күн бұрын
He has already talked many times, see his older interviews
@faalbert5872
@faalbert5872 Ай бұрын
Pillai is an hardcore RSS to impress them. Let him speak Hinduism, Hindutva. When he doesn't know anything about Christianity
@Smpk12
@Smpk12 15 күн бұрын
Why are you so butt hurt when someone is speaking up truth and facts. Soooo insecure..😂
@roughvlogs7620
@roughvlogs7620 14 күн бұрын
Manu S Pillai is not RSS, he is from Kerala, he is well aware of Christianity and it's history. He is actually mentored and molded by Shashi Tharoor. He is Just looking into recorded history with an uppercast mindset, while trying to sell his book.
@adityachebrolu1992
@adityachebrolu1992 12 күн бұрын
what exactly does he not know, may be its you who doesn't know what exactly happened during coloniality, cultural appropriation, whitewashing the acts, controlling the way history is narrated by running schools, not saying this happened, I am saying this should be looked into with an open mind
@PrakashNair-j9r
@PrakashNair-j9r 12 күн бұрын
@roughvlogs7620 who is sushi taroor just a womaniser Then you know what type if mentoring is given.
@maverickspencer5581
@maverickspencer5581 Ай бұрын
This video just proves, that some people are non stop liars. They just keep on doing it.
@rejugeorge2863
@rejugeorge2863 Ай бұрын
Christianity came to India at least 500 years before the British Empire even began!
@thomassamuel9388
@thomassamuel9388 Ай бұрын
Correction 2000 years before
@hemalathaprabhakar
@hemalathaprabhakar 15 күн бұрын
When desciple Thomas entered India on 4AD
@thomassamuel9388
@thomassamuel9388 15 күн бұрын
@hemalathaprabhakar 52 AD
@rejugeorge2863
@rejugeorge2863 15 күн бұрын
@@thomassamuel9388 Read my comment again. We are saying the same thing.
@916GOLD-l4e
@916GOLD-l4e 6 күн бұрын
@@hemalathaprabhakarno AD 58
@wisdomchase
@wisdomchase Ай бұрын
notice how this book and talk pointedly avoid talking about Islam and its impact on Hinduism. Shows you their politics. Islam basically did far worse than European Christianity, but nobody has the guts to analyze.
@B14cksun
@B14cksun Ай бұрын
It is focusing on the time period where Islam was not in power, but Europeans were.
@wisdomchase
@wisdomchase Ай бұрын
@B14cksun lol that's my point. The roots of modern Hindu identity/Hindutva predate European colonialism rule. But we're happy to dish it out about European Christianity because they're a less contentious target 😄
@wisdomchase
@wisdomchase Ай бұрын
@B14cksun yes, genius, we all got that. The point is the Hindutva identity predates the European colonialism period (eg. Shivaji, Aurangzeb etc).
@yj9032
@yj9032 Ай бұрын
WhatsApp gyani spotted
@Mathewsdc192
@Mathewsdc192 Ай бұрын
European s are in power in India since 5000 years, ariyan came from europe
@mudra5114
@mudra5114 Ай бұрын
The British, unlike the Portuguese were not that much into spreading of Christianity, their support for missionaries in India was very light. Indeed the early English East India Company even banned missionaries to land in their part of India. Which us why missionaries like Carey had to land in Danish parts of India. Only later did the East India Company directors come to the decision that since Indians are human beings like the British, they have the right to listen to words of the Lord. Only then missionaries were allowed in but even after that British Government (both the East India Company Government or the later British Raj Government) support for missionaries was very limited....
@jzzquant
@jzzquant Ай бұрын
western societies are more feudal and have bigger problems than caste system in india ,by 1857 left wing ideologies started sweeping europe already marx was at his peak. In india we atleast have checks and balances in the form of budhism,jainism ,shaivism ,chrvaka to counter feudal corruption in west there is no such thing. Only alternative to christianity is complete bloody rebellian in the fomr of marxism. COming to your question ,British by 1850s were already significantly influenced by leftist ideas in the form of hegel, marx. they were lesss interested in bringing christianity and more intersted in destroying hinduism .Its only after independence we see christianity used as a weapon by Left . During british rule christianisation was never a political weapon of left wing idealogies. Its mostly the deep state post independence which weaponised/wokedup christianty.
@mudra5114
@mudra5114 Ай бұрын
@jzzquant No society on planet Earth, ( and many had caste systems) came close to the ruthlessness and discrimination of the caste system of India, Ambedkar has made a deep analysis of comparative systems. Next, no the British in the 1700s and 1800s were not influenced by Marx or Hegel, this process of Marx becoming popular among the British elite started in the early 1900s. Marxism was a rebellion against the merchant class who had earlier rebelled against feudalism in movements like the French Revolution or classical Liberalism, so it was a revolution against earlier revolutionaries. Marx was against all religions, not just Christianity, he was of Jewish heritage. The ideology driving British Empire in India was more Classical Liberalism (Whigs) than Christianity.... The British Empire in India and say the Dutch Empire in Indonesia was more about preservation of global trading interests (against enemy European powers and later the USA and Japanese Empire), than religion. Religion (Christianity) was secondary concern. This is different than the Portuguese or Spanish Empires.
@jzzquant
@jzzquant Ай бұрын
@@mudra5114 There has been so systematic analysis quantiatvely f feaudal systems ever done by anyone , qualitateively ya everyone has an opinion, the closest we got is of gini coefficient as the only reliable metric across countries: ferdi.fr/dl/df-3ccxatVX4ED68ofXBfvLpFs4/ferdi-p25-average-income-inequality-between-countries-1700-2030.pdf and gini coefficient analysis clearly suggests income inequality only starts riising between countries after 18th century, it was pretty much the same across world before that.
@piyalibanerjee5445
@piyalibanerjee5445 Ай бұрын
@@mudra5114 you are repeating the lies and forced re-education of the British and missionaries. Please read Dhrampal's book "The Beautiful Tree" where there are even official surveys by British officers. There was not a single reference on caste Gurukula before 1835. In 1835 Macaulay laid down his policy of giving an English education to Indians in the English Education Act, 1835. That was when Indian education system was dismantled and missionaries entered the education system and lies started to be systematically plated.
@naruvimama
@naruvimama Ай бұрын
@@mudra5114 Caste is a word that comes from Castas a Portuguese word. The rigid caste system is of European origin and was imported into India. A large part of rigidity of the caste system comes from the monopoly of Church over god.
@kavilphilip
@kavilphilip Ай бұрын
Why nobody is talking about the *nazranis* - Christians from 1st century, even before Christianity reached Europe. The Jewish (traders) were present in most of the major PORTS in our side. There are many Christians who are still following that teaching. Yes, Portuguese and European pushed the teaching in a different pace . We all are evolving.
@icancyou
@icancyou Ай бұрын
Just search in Google: Who owns most land in india after Government Result: Catholic Church of India has 17 crores 29 lakhs of acres thru Indian church act 1927 by British Colonialism. Changanassery SB college,Aluva UC college,etc.are examples of free gifts from British to their faith. The gifting of free land can be given to Dharmasthans, Devasthans and Devaswoms too if Britain had no such intentions.
@kaydee3407
@kaydee3407 Ай бұрын
Who is running india as a narco terror hub for wahabbis.. Gogole : doval sons saudi cayman islands. Utube : ntt manipur druglord brinda asp Utube : newslaundry manipur CM druglord brinda asp US will invade mexico for drug smuggling ..when that happesn this will give a precedene for US to invade other narco terror hubs ..
@ReflectiveJourney
@ReflectiveJourney Ай бұрын
There is a huge discussion of it in the book.
@rubanraj999
@rubanraj999 Ай бұрын
christian missionaries ,also brought medicine, education and self respect and new view towards god is love .
@bhakti64
@bhakti64 15 күн бұрын
sorry but do you have self respect
@Smpk12
@Smpk12 15 күн бұрын
Self respect,😂? Begging others to convert is your self respect. We call them beggars by the way.
@Smpk12
@Smpk12 15 күн бұрын
Education isn't even comparable between India and Christianity. Go shut your mouth
@sricr
@sricr 13 күн бұрын
They also brought slavery.
@adityachebrolu1992
@adityachebrolu1992 12 күн бұрын
India had its own gurukuls for math, science, philosophy and medicine that were shut down during British time, and when it comes to selfrespect Hinduism speaks about varnas not caste . Varna and caste are different , GIta doesn't mention "by birth" in it, google "gita 18.41 sloka" once and tell me where by birth is mentioned there, caste discrimination is there i agree but gita/hinduism doesn't mention it, please read gita fully once, thankyou
@kiranjoelkiran2368
@kiranjoelkiran2368 Ай бұрын
Why Brahmans converted in first century in Kerala? europe not existed at the time?
@physicsi5974
@physicsi5974 12 күн бұрын
Good observation
@adityachebrolu1992
@adityachebrolu1992 12 күн бұрын
there is a difference between conversion and forced conversion, also you might wanna look into cultural appropriation
@rekhanair7747
@rekhanair7747 9 күн бұрын
This is a lie to show up the high status. The Brahmin, nambootiris are coming to Kerala by 4th century. And this conversion was happening in the first century. Also, there weren't so many brahmins during this time.
@durvanaik7012
@durvanaik7012 8 күн бұрын
​@@rekhanair7747 You are lying
@frenchracqlett5368
@frenchracqlett5368 7 күн бұрын
@@adityachebrolu1992 Nobody is a fool to convert on “force”. Nobody is “converting” people on knifepoint or gunpoint like Islam. If only people are leaving Hinduism, then there has to be some serious problem with Hinduism fundamentally. Oh yeah, I know. It’s Casteism ! 😂
@manzilmudbari
@manzilmudbari Ай бұрын
“Are Hindus resilient or victims” what a dumb question!
@Lesboi
@Lesboi Ай бұрын
These clowns are just suicidal losers who have coping theory for the endless failures they have achieved in the past 1000 years, lmao
@slashtab
@slashtab Ай бұрын
It's like she didn't understand the book
@ick-625
@ick-625 Ай бұрын
Lol yeah 😄
@yadhukrishna1070
@yadhukrishna1070 Ай бұрын
Christianity, missionaries was not backed by forces of Europe
@user-SHGfvs
@user-SHGfvs Ай бұрын
Yes Europens where not Christians!
@unitedmelodies1053
@unitedmelodies1053 Ай бұрын
The kings who ruled the provinces of Indu were the ones who ruined the lives and future of the masses
@dawnjoseph9476
@dawnjoseph9476 Ай бұрын
@@user-SHGfvsOk they were hindus
@AjiDn1
@AjiDn1 Ай бұрын
Correct
@jasonasir2345
@jasonasir2345 Ай бұрын
I'm Christian i have read missionaries biographies, British never had this mindset to spread Christianity in India. Their only aim is trade and run the company in India. It is missionaries whom voluntarily left the country sold all their properties to come to India at their own risks. Unfortunately there is lot of misinformation about missionaries which leads in gratitude towards their life sacrificing deeds.
@akhiljames8807
@akhiljames8807 Ай бұрын
East India company coming to India was for the same reason Amazon came to India or Adani went to Kenya..to make money that was the main goal. And missionaries were a threat to that goal.
@askyella
@askyella Ай бұрын
Hello Jason, you are wrong on multiple levels. Even the British will not agree to what you just said!
@akhiljames8807
@akhiljames8807 Ай бұрын
@@askyella Yes British liberals wont agree because they have been brainwashed with same marxist history used in India.
@Hudsonpaul77
@Hudsonpaul77 Ай бұрын
Very true brother, many thanks fr voicing out.., missionaries were restricted badly by the British colonizers.. #Having a biblical name doesn't make one Christian..one should walk according words of Christ [Matt 7:21]... Colonizers looted, missionaries sacrificially serviced.., they both have different motives.., Christ's heart is always to serve others, even enemies.. pls dnt misunderstand..🙏🙏
@maheshjambardi771
@maheshjambardi771 Ай бұрын
Please read the book “The Missionaries Calculus” authored by Dr. Anil Belvadi, published by Oxford University Press, with foreword by the head of Harvard Divinity School. Documented with writings by the missionaries themselves.
@tanturms
@tanturms Ай бұрын
This is a brahmin view point by brahmin for brahmin.
@sunilbarnabas2650
@sunilbarnabas2650 Ай бұрын
very true....
@arkitectoor
@arkitectoor Ай бұрын
Manu is not Brahmin. Get that caste poison out of you.
@kushal4956
@kushal4956 Ай бұрын
he is quite literally, not a Brahmin
@AchieversSquad
@AchieversSquad Ай бұрын
Super
@user23197
@user23197 Ай бұрын
👍👍
@ObserverPilgrim
@ObserverPilgrim Ай бұрын
The very English that they speak is from British 😂😂😂
@ObserverPilgrim
@ObserverPilgrim Ай бұрын
@Urvashisth It looks like Shakha English - wrong spelling :-)
@devdattam
@devdattam 21 күн бұрын
Isn’t that the same as Britishers using zero in every day maths?
@sweetspot4906
@sweetspot4906 15 күн бұрын
@@devdattam even without zero West would ve come up with something else. It's us who are using their inventions and discoveries shamelessly . Right from your underwear to complex jet engine it's from West which was basically founded on Christian values to develop phenomenally.
@wellbeing6198
@wellbeing6198 3 күн бұрын
@@devdattam the British using ' zero' gave us back trains, aeroplane, under wear, pants, tooth brush, rockets, space exploration , basic everyday tools, toothbrush, advanced hospital equipments, fan, screws, nut and bolts , institutions, democracy, decency, refrigerator, shopping malls, internet, electricity, ur pant zip, buttons, the very spectacle this author has put on for his eye vison 😂. Have some shame
@gj7333
@gj7333 Ай бұрын
Caste discrimination still exists today. Look at how dalits are treated even today. The practice of Sathi was ended by the British. Today look at how women are being raped...who are the rapists? Why are things like these happening?
@Smpk12
@Smpk12 15 күн бұрын
Yes caste discrimination still exists in the form of reservations. Sati wasn't even a thing to begin with. It was just a small practice of war time when Indian women commited suicide to escape the sex slavery from Mughals. The British ended it?😂 Britain and US is the capital of Rapes. Look at the statistics. India rape rate is 3.5% and US got 38%😮
@isactharian4744
@isactharian4744 12 күн бұрын
He doesn't understand the core of Christianity and evangelicalism.
@feminapereira6741
@feminapereira6741 Ай бұрын
Confidently presenting ignorance 😢
@comtruise402
@comtruise402 Ай бұрын
convert detected 🤡 opinion rejected ❌
@icancyou
@icancyou Ай бұрын
Just search in Google: Who owns most land in india after Government Result: Catholic Church of India has 17 crores 29 lakhs of acres thru Indian church act 1927 by British Colonialism. Changanassery SB college,Aluva UC college,etc.are examples of free gifts from British to their faith. The gifting of free land can be given to Dharmasthans, Devasthans and Devaswoms too if Britain had no such intentions.
@prakashtiwari8003
@prakashtiwari8003 Ай бұрын
And he clearly missed the bloodiest history on Hinduism by muslims for 1000 years.
@Pinku-k4e
@Pinku-k4e Ай бұрын
I think he is basically talking about Christian Missionaries! 🇮🇳♥️🇮🇱
@dashamoolamreacts9324
@dashamoolamreacts9324 Ай бұрын
Do you have any evidence for this? If it was really bloody, no Hindu would have been left here
@wisdomchase
@wisdomchase Ай бұрын
@@Pinku-k4e yes. But the point is why is he only choosing to focus on this period when the issue he's addressing - Hindutva - predates the European period.
@Pinku-k4e
@Pinku-k4e Ай бұрын
@ I can’t say, but they always whitewash the brutal conversions during the Islamic invasions. 🇮🇳♥️🇮🇱
@muraligutta432
@muraligutta432 Ай бұрын
Nothing is bloodiest than the caste system!
@hindurashtra63
@hindurashtra63 Ай бұрын
I'm a Hardcore Hindu Nationalist. My Mom beleives in Jesus and keeps a Photo of Jesus in her Pooja Room along with other Hindu Gods. I don't believe in Jesus, But I have no problem with Jesus in our Pooja Room. No one tells her who to worship in our Family, That is the beauty of Hinduism - We embrace all Beleifs and Gods.
@abrarnihal_
@abrarnihal_ Ай бұрын
Believing in everything is not believing in anything
@sumandutta4834
@sumandutta4834 Ай бұрын
That's not how the other parties think which is the root cause of the problem.
@abrahamism
@abrahamism Ай бұрын
Right​@@abrarnihal_
@grapeshott
@grapeshott Ай бұрын
You aren't hardcore Hindu nationalist then. It doesn't come under that definition. Perhaps simply a modi bhakt
@sasa-he3mr
@sasa-he3mr Ай бұрын
U r a useless Hindu.
@minku2008
@minku2008 Ай бұрын
It was the Syrian Christian’s in Kerala who first fought with the Portuguese against the forceful conversion to evangelical catholic Christianity .
@human1899
@human1899 Ай бұрын
And it was the same syrian Christians who carried out slavery in kerala during dutch period.. Slavery had conducted even in churches.. It is multilayered.. We cant narrate anything in a linear way..
@Fastbenefits-y4p
@Fastbenefits-y4p 23 күн бұрын
"evangelical catholic Christianity"? . Do you know the meaning of evangelical? Don't talk nonsense.
@abeljoshua170
@abeljoshua170 18 күн бұрын
​@@Fastbenefits-y4pEvangelical, the term, need not be equated Evangelical Protestant Christianity.
@rajaramakutty9088
@rajaramakutty9088 Ай бұрын
Both the dominant Abrahamic religions have vowed to convert 'heathens/kafirs' into their so-called one and only true way. Bharat is an unfinished business for them. Hope the host interviews Dr Koenraad Elst who will give a more complete and truer picture of negationism in India done by Congress/Marxists.
@bellacchu
@bellacchu Ай бұрын
That he won't do
@deura12
@deura12 Ай бұрын
I'm glad Mallus are getting aware against the abrahamwaad
@johngeevarghese1354
@johngeevarghese1354 Ай бұрын
Christianity is not a political religion. My kingdom is not of this world said CHRIST before the ROMAN GOVERNOR.
@deura12
@deura12 Ай бұрын
@johngeevarghese1354 sure, on reality it's completely different.
@rajaramakutty9088
@rajaramakutty9088 Ай бұрын
@johngeevarghese1354 No quarrel with Christ and the message he shared but bishops in India instruct their flock not to vote for BJP.
@sagarpandurangi4820
@sagarpandurangi4820 Ай бұрын
Why can't resilient people not have a chance to genuinely discuss how they were brutalized but still persisted?
@lijjo1986
@lijjo1986 Ай бұрын
Many of the missionaries active in South India were German nationals, Britain and Germany were long-time rivals. British considered them as enemies and even persecuted them
@icancyou
@icancyou Ай бұрын
Just search in Google: Who owns most land in india after Government Result: Catholic Church of India has 17 crores 29 lakhs of acres thru Indian church act 1927 by British Colonialism. Changanassery SB college,Aluva UC college,etc.are examples of free gifts from British to their faith. The gifting of free land can be given to Dharmasthans, Devasthans and Devaswoms too if Britain had no such intentions.
@RajDave12
@RajDave12 Ай бұрын
In British rule there is no entry to missionary.
@adithyaadi1363
@adithyaadi1363 Ай бұрын
We had calls for reforms from long time many sages and hindu intellectuals even in second millennium before British advent have called for reforms and rejected caste discrimination.
@yj9032
@yj9032 Ай бұрын
That doesn't mean that the British didn't cause reform in 19th century.
@parvadhami980
@parvadhami980 Ай бұрын
Bhakti movement began long back before British rule
@PositivismAtItsBest
@PositivismAtItsBest Ай бұрын
@@yj9032no they didn’t - e.g. Maharashtra society is heavily influenced by Bhakti movement of Maharashtra. Saint Tukaram to Saint Janeshwar all happened in medieval times of India way before Christian missionary arrived here. Similar was for Tamil Bhakti movement also. It was just reactionary elements like Rajarammohan Roy and few others in Bengal who tried to imitate British missionaries to reform Hinduism through attempts of Samaj n all- which all failed eventually I must say. Intresting thing is Abrahamic religions who are last to accept reform are tagged as reason of reform in east Asian and south Asian religions - that’s so stupid and ignorant
@Pinku-k4e
@Pinku-k4e Ай бұрын
@@yj9032. They destroyed rather than reformed. 🇮🇳♥️🇮🇱
@tylerdavidson2400
@tylerdavidson2400 Ай бұрын
Yet you stil practice casteism in North India.
@somashekharganta6560
@somashekharganta6560 Ай бұрын
The anchor is naturally oriented towards a particular position and tried to steer the conversation with Manu in the direction of her desire. But Manu has stood his ground and gave a good account of himself as an unbiased professional historian without so much of an agenda, unlike the anchor.
@jude.niranjan
@jude.niranjan Ай бұрын
Conversion is a constant existential reality. All things convert, transform, evolve and that holds true for the human soul as well.
@RG-un2vl
@RG-un2vl 24 күн бұрын
True but people seem to intentionally or unintentionally create confusion between personal change that comes from introspection and a quest for truth vs forced and coerced religious conversion, en masse, which is a well established and intentional tactic as one of the two pillars of colonialism,the other being military and administrative control. There’s no sugarcoating it..
@ettuinthu
@ettuinthu 15 күн бұрын
But the Bible of Hindus Manu says 'no change is permissible as it is 'Anathi' . 😊
@bhakti64
@bhakti64 15 күн бұрын
omg i fell out of my chair. this is height of psuedo intellectualism
@jude.niranjan
@jude.niranjan 14 күн бұрын
@@bhakti64 elaborate please.
@jude.niranjan
@jude.niranjan 14 күн бұрын
@@RG-un2vl I empathize. Coercion is illegal - kindly address the fact that anyone who lures or coercion is met with serious laws in India that ban such activity. If approached by anyone to convert to any faith under threats, please contact the nearest police authorities. You have a right to introspect and choose your Eternal Guru.
@jithinn1
@jithinn1 Ай бұрын
Missionaries had done more good things to India than bad thing. Gave food and medicine, education and clothing. They developed the local languages and grammar. They started printing technology and books. Mr Manu wants to look more on the possible less dark side of Hindu - Christian relationship. So he chose to avoid Islam. Unlike Islam Christianity never teaches to kill idol worshippers or non belivers.
@cheapthrills9035
@cheapthrills9035 Ай бұрын
Goan inquisition??
@apocthinker6460
@apocthinker6460 Ай бұрын
@@cheapthrills9035 Goan inquisition was a Portuguese Judicial Court directive against religious infringement, which is basically a legal punishment for committing religious offenses. The religious offenses ranged from bringing Hindu idols and carrying out Hindu customs in churches to persecution of the voluntary converts to Christianity, which is why the Inquisition was enforced.
@cheapthrills9035
@cheapthrills9035 Ай бұрын
@@apocthinker6460 so they did commit atrocities on hindus. You accept that.
@cheapthrills9035
@cheapthrills9035 Ай бұрын
@@apocthinker6460 so you accept that hindus were treated badly.
@RitobrataPal
@RitobrataPal Ай бұрын
Really?
@ravindraharsoor3460
@ravindraharsoor3460 Ай бұрын
True to the channel, ThePrint’s philosophy of being controversial, started with calling his work “controversial”
@braaavooom
@braaavooom Ай бұрын
Bro hindutva without islam invasion is half baked
@adwianya
@adwianya Ай бұрын
"Hindutva" did not exist when mughals invaded!
@Rexorazor
@Rexorazor Ай бұрын
Hindutva is a new concept cooked up by genocidal crooks in RSS terror dungeons. Just another millionth changes to suit an upper caste design for society they want to rule.
@truthtalker9375
@truthtalker9375 Ай бұрын
​@@adwianyathen what was Pushymitra shunga did in past then?...he was also kattar hindu and he rejected other religion ideologies 🤷‍♂️....don't put yourself as an innocent because your mindset is the real reason why hindus beaten in foreign countries everyday...you illiterate claims this and they have to suffer there,even you abuse foreigners on comments so they don't like People like you and they think all hindus are like you so they Discriminate others otherwise before this ideology became famous everything was right in foreign countries
@anonymouspersonbehind5354
@anonymouspersonbehind5354 Ай бұрын
​@@adwianyacoz bramins and kshatriyyas always had position in mughal temple Even tipu had bunch of bramins Muslim and hindu rulers were cruel and exploitstive against poor lower caste people they never got represented in courts
@cheapthrills9035
@cheapthrills9035 Ай бұрын
​@@anonymouspersonbehind5354BS.
@ghaah
@ghaah Ай бұрын
He is not a historian he is just an author
@sunsree1984
@sunsree1984 Ай бұрын
You need to get some basic of some History lessons !
@appujosephjose6129
@appujosephjose6129 25 күн бұрын
What will make him a historian?
@anoopmathen4566
@anoopmathen4566 18 күн бұрын
He is passionate ,that's enough.Second ,he has hypothesised,it's upto u to prove him wrong.Moreover he is not bashing other religions ,this is a conversation.
@thimlapurashadakshari8089
@thimlapurashadakshari8089 Ай бұрын
I wrote an article in 2000 from a Christian perspective titles, ‘Hindu fundamentalism and Christian Response’ reaching nearly the same conclusion. If you google, you can find my article. Thesis of my article was that Christian exclusivist led to Hindu renaissance and calling Christian to be more inclusive.
@dchakraborty4901
@dchakraborty4901 Ай бұрын
Christianity and Islam are exclusivist religions. One God, one book, one path to divinity. How can they be inclusive? Do you ask them to rewrite Bible and Koran which are God’s words -immutable ? And if you do aren’t you labeled as heretical or blasphemous?
@Rexorazor
@Rexorazor Ай бұрын
​@@dchakraborty4901 Unlike Judaism and Christianity, Islam atleast speaks about justice and fairness for unbelievers living in Muslim nations.
@tylerdavidson2400
@tylerdavidson2400 Ай бұрын
@dchakrabkrty: No casteism and they treat their women better.
@dchakraborty4901
@dchakraborty4901 Ай бұрын
@@tylerdavidson2400 what is the relevance? Talking about exclusivism in response to the post. No religion is kind to women, although all adherents claim superiority compare with reference to others - who is less misogynistic is the competition.
@Shva927
@Shva927 Ай бұрын
Well your conclusion is questionable Christianity and inclusive? Hinduism and not inclusive? 😂😂
@sathyendrababu7868
@sathyendrababu7868 Ай бұрын
Hinduism content in karma theory needed a healthy dose of christianity (influence) to discover/rediscover humanitarian response to poverty, sickness and the wretched❤
@cheapthrills9035
@cheapthrills9035 Ай бұрын
No. It was always present in hindus.
@sweetspot4906
@sweetspot4906 15 күн бұрын
@@cheapthrills9035 no it wasnt
@ralkumar8254
@ralkumar8254 Ай бұрын
Conversion is not wrong...proclaiming one's religion is not wrong and responding to another religion call or their proclamation is not wrong
@allindiaisone4104
@allindiaisone4104 Ай бұрын
am hindu and sees cristinity and Jesus as god and friend of any religion like budism or hinduism or sikism
@mathewvl1655
@mathewvl1655 18 күн бұрын
This fellow tells colonial rule caused conversion into Christianity.And it is merely 2% Christians in India in 1951. Still it is 2.4% But recently really under BJP rule christianity get a growth.
@DW-zm2lk
@DW-zm2lk 8 күн бұрын
this is because these people are insecure .. I have seem that mostly among Brahmins
@rhemawordofgod4638
@rhemawordofgod4638 Ай бұрын
Actually this people talk about Christianity and missionaries but this people having zero knowledge, what ever they saying it is only thoughts myths
@adityachebrolu1992
@adityachebrolu1992 12 күн бұрын
some factual evidence are provided in a book called "India that is Bharat" book by J sai deepak, you might wanna check that book once
@Nandhu-h1l
@Nandhu-h1l Ай бұрын
One thing is our Hindus kings in Thiruvanathapuram and many other places seek help for british to avoid threat from islamic forces like Tippu sulthan who convert with weopons
@joyaljohn2219
@joyaljohn2219 18 күн бұрын
They were very cruel to dalits, even this guy's forefathers are the zamindars of last century cruely attacked and tortured dalits.
@sundeepkbabu
@sundeepkbabu Ай бұрын
The Protestant reformation which caused an Intellectual drift with Church is the root of evangelical Christianism? Why does the Author all "Ayes" when it comes with the drifts caused by Protestantism by "Nayes" to the fruits of it like evangelical Christainity? The Author decribes Hindusism as 22:02 Loose and Amorphous and 28:10 full of baggage like polygamy. 18:37 He is also validating the rumours spread by Arya Brahmins. He is very open minded to say all conversions are not forced but a way for 19:55 a Brahmin to marry a lower caste person and stand upto fuedal caste leaders. He is also calling Christainity a Foreign idea backed by a Foreign power. And is ok with Christainty under a hindu ruler( His first book was defamtory to the Hindu Royal Family of Tranvancore is an Ironical Twist). 27:21 This Public Historian is a riding the wave of Hindutva(Religion Backed by State) and he is deliberately hiding the Christian Persecution of Neelakanta Pillai aka St. Deva Sahayam Pillai and St. John De Britto aka. Arul Anandar who were tortured to their gruesome death by "All Powerful" Hindu Kings who were triumphant over foregin and domestic challenges. The apostle St. Thomas killed in Ad.62 when which european power was operating? 21:33 Was not The Arya Brahmins the Infalliable interpreters and Authority(still for millions of Hindus) who put Hindus in limbo by ordering the Killings of The Missionaries, propagating rituals and purituan concepts like Sati and Casteism? The Rajas ,the Zamindars and even Islamic powers used their service to rule the people and even fix timings of the Harem. Can Mr. Manu deny even his ancestors are benefitted from this Infalliable, Ubiquitous and one stop shop called Arya Brahminism and that is the reason they never bothered to learn the Vedas and Upanishads till European scholars started using it to question the Brahminical authority and thus the leechy life of ritual pure?
@ettuinthu
@ettuinthu Ай бұрын
In Tamilnadu, a Brahmin guy shot dead Ash, a British official who took a dalit lady on her labour pain to hospital in his chariot through agraharam. He was branded as a freedom fighter.
@sweetspot4906
@sweetspot4906 15 күн бұрын
@@ettuinthu wtf.. Man.. Is it?? Can you provide me reference
@parvadhami980
@parvadhami980 Ай бұрын
The Indian society has been blessed with eras of Reforms Be it Buddha or Mahavir Nanak, Kabir, Mahaprabhu Or Ram Mohun Roy, Phule, Ambedkar
@darshandhawan5923
@darshandhawan5923 Ай бұрын
And arya samaaj, adi shankaracharya, ramanujacharya, as well.
@PeepingTom-xy9di
@PeepingTom-xy9di Ай бұрын
Periyar.
@parvadhami980
@parvadhami980 Ай бұрын
@@darshandhawan5923 several Every region has their own reformers
@namah4399
@namah4399 Ай бұрын
​@@PeepingTom-xy9di the deformer
@truthtalker9375
@truthtalker9375 Ай бұрын
​@@darshandhawan5923can't say about Adi Shankaracharya because he was kattar hindu and most kattar hindus are like Casteists....that's the reason people respect Swami Vivekananda, Dayanand Saraswati Ji etc not these Shankaracharya or any other hindus 🤷‍♂️ If you want to be hindu then be like swami ji otherwise don't call yourself hindu because you're spoiling name of Hinduism by this way on global level.....attack on hindus increased since past few years and reason is i already gave you
@victor256in
@victor256in Ай бұрын
Among the colonizing powers, the British were the most civilized and India got REALLY lucky. There would have been multiple genocides if the Portuguese, Belgians , Germans or the French were in power. All other European powers were FAR more malevolent than the British (who actually had an element of benevolence and justice in them). This is not to discount the atrocities that happened under the Brits. That happens is all forms of colonialism.
@Mathewsdc192
@Mathewsdc192 Ай бұрын
Romans are the more civilized , British got civilization from rome France and German and Dutch , native brittons had no civilization
@tellsparck
@tellsparck Ай бұрын
Even though atrocities get the most attention, it is the slow strangulation by colonialism that is more damaging. Like siphoning off all the wealth, destroying indigenous industries, preventing modern industries getting established and not providing education to the population (not to mention the divide and rule policy). British were very good at this, and India has not fully recovered from the destruction caused by colonialism. China has smartly recovered more or less.
@Mathewsdc192
@Mathewsdc192 Ай бұрын
@@tellsparck china didn't recover it became low wage worker for the west
@tellsparck
@tellsparck Ай бұрын
@@Mathewsdc192 You haven't updated yourselves since the 2000s. China's nominal per capita GDP is ~12k and based on PPP is 26K. Isn't that a recovery, and it is still growing pretty fast and is a leader in high tech in many fields.
@Mathewsdc192
@Mathewsdc192 Ай бұрын
@@tellsparck it will not grow Any more , china s per now simmikar to Mexico and south America , Mexico and Brazil is the first choice now , India has cheap worker but factory work is considered of low social status so India is lagging behind
@Perumanian
@Perumanian Ай бұрын
Pillai finally has sold out his soul. Now it is play with the fascist time to bring out the “hurt hindu” What Hindu are you talking about Manu? Brahmin right ? Also the way you use the word “attack” is really out of place when you yourself say there was not a lot of conversion at the end.
@amrtadas5539
@amrtadas5539 Ай бұрын
What u talking about? Victims of Colonialism were from all sectors of society... why this hate for Brahmins? Oh yes that's what colonial education though u to hate while whitewash colonial crimes
@Perumanian
@Perumanian Ай бұрын
@ oh we have a lot to talk about - who were these so called “Hindus “ Manu is mentioning - the people who wee being “attacked” ?
@amrtadas5539
@amrtadas5539 Ай бұрын
@@Perumanian thats just a subproduct of colonial education in justify foreign rule and blame social issues at local traditions... brahmins were more attacked for uphold the religion traditions as a way of living but all society suffered under colonial rule wich can equate to slavery genocide and eugenics based on religious and racial Supremacy of colonial masters. But yet u want repeat they're narrative that local religious people that oppressed others not the invader rulers.
@Nature-xn3dp
@Nature-xn3dp 12 күн бұрын
​@@Perumanianhow many rice bags and brainwashing you got for converting?
@johngeevarghese1354
@johngeevarghese1354 Ай бұрын
CHRISTIANITY IS NOT A POLITICAL RELIGION. CHRIST SAID MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD before the ROMAN GOVERNOR.
@pradipamahadeva8051
@pradipamahadeva8051 Ай бұрын
Delusions are rife!
@ReubenNelsonKanjirakadan
@ReubenNelsonKanjirakadan Ай бұрын
@@pradipamahadeva8051 hes literally right though. Outside of weird Cults like jehovahs witness and mormons, the avg christian has no interest in converting you. Christianity has existed in India for 2000 years, starting with st. Thomas and in a very big way since the 1300s with the rise of the nestorian Church. Yet if you discount the northeast, the percentage of christians is around 0.5%. Today the population of Christians in kerela ( where it started) is in the reverse. Yet you feel threathened by us. Imagine what we feel, when we are villanized by 80% of the population. 80% getting scared of 2%, talk abt victim complex.
@nabhinayyam
@nabhinayyam Ай бұрын
Christ had a kingdom? Anyways, he had a kingdom and the religion is not political or was he a dictator.. so many questions. Why don’t you just mind your own business and not comment on other religion.
@suen3634
@suen3634 Ай бұрын
Yup, Christ might have said that but there were many Christian rulers starting with Constantine who used their political power to help spread the religion. European history is replete with examples of Christianity as a political tool. Go read , enlighten yourself.
@shehan117
@shehan117 Ай бұрын
True christianity died after the constantine reforms.
@shafi.j
@shafi.j Ай бұрын
Stop attacking in the name of religion. I am asking to all religions.
@MeGoanBeGoan
@MeGoanBeGoan 7 күн бұрын
Please speak about the caste system in India, prevalent to this day which affects the very existence of a Hindu today. Please talk about the hypocrisy of continuing the reservation system that has everything to do with caste and creed. Christianity has contributed to this country and continues to do so. The Constitution guarantees one's choice of religion. One is free to convert. As long as it is NOT forced. There lies the difference. Not a single conversion has been proven to be "forced". Before maligning Christians and Christianity, correct what is wrong with your own religion. Seek The Truth and The Truth shall set you free! John 8:32
@bijujoze4043
@bijujoze4043 Ай бұрын
Missionaries saved India , period.
@skan5996
@skan5996 25 күн бұрын
Saved from what
@Smpk12
@Smpk12 15 күн бұрын
From what? From being great?
@Nature-xn3dp
@Nature-xn3dp 13 күн бұрын
How? by giving you rice bags?? Do you know the trillions of dollars looted from India is what made European countries rich?
@sum_itsam4814
@sum_itsam4814 14 күн бұрын
In India people think only Britishers brought Christianity but it was not only them. Norwegians were one major group who spread Christianity amongst the tribals. And it was for the uplifting of the people.
@adityachebrolu1992
@adityachebrolu1992 11 күн бұрын
so how many countries that were colonized still practiced their core religion after coloniality ended can you please let me know, I think most of them became Christian majority countries and lost their indigenous culture and religion, please google it
@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388
@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 11 күн бұрын
@@adityachebrolu1992how can anyone claim they are indigenous, unless they can prove that they and each of their ancestors belonged to that region/ culture in each of their reincarnations?
@viswanathanseshadri1047
@viswanathanseshadri1047 Ай бұрын
Excellent discussion. As much as I could make out from the discussion, it seems cogent and sober representation of something Hindus have been trying to put across, on proselytization, on being open to new ideas, on Hinduism being decrntralized tradition. The "threat" to him comes more from the likes of The Print for what he has said is contrary to the Nehruvian Romila Thapar Irfan Habib narrative on India and Hindus.
@jw8752
@jw8752 Ай бұрын
Hinduism is really resilient. Just take a look at South America and Africa. Consequent to western colonialisation how many indigenous religions are still alive there? None, mostly. Now look at India today.
@nabhinayyam
@nabhinayyam Ай бұрын
It took people like Shankaracharya to unite save sanatana dharma. It just didn’t happen so don’t take the “resilience” for granted.
@truthtalker9375
@truthtalker9375 Ай бұрын
​@@nabhinayyamunite?...india was never United nor now and I don't think ever will be in future because people here having rotten mindset of caste, religion,race, region, colour etc
@indian9632
@indian9632 Ай бұрын
Complacency is very bas thing. Barbarians are still among us to harm us
@sanman8530
@sanman8530 Ай бұрын
Not so. look at Pakistan and Bangladesh. If you guys were resilient then how did these guys get converted? You guys almost got extinct. If it was not because of the British strong hand India would have been one big Pakistan. Truth is it was the missionary's idea for India to be independent which was against the will of the company and that's what they put a ban on the export of missionary's so they had to come from different routes.
@mohmmadnabeehasan4672
@mohmmadnabeehasan4672 Ай бұрын
​@@sanman8530 Totally delusional take this
@emilmohan1000
@emilmohan1000 Ай бұрын
bro.. Endorsing hindutva with anti-christian slogans won't work out to a larger extent unlike Anti-muslim propaganda.. The world has changed a lot .. Try to imbibe the right perspective😂😂😂😂
@ArjunVB666
@ArjunVB666 Ай бұрын
Says who? The indian are literally understnding the abhrahamic religions and are turning more right wing! Keep laughing christian sheep 😂😂
@ArjunVB666
@ArjunVB666 Ай бұрын
Says who? The indian are literally understnding the abhrahamic religions and are turning more right wing! Keep laughing christian sheep 😂😂
@icancyou
@icancyou Ай бұрын
Just search in Google: Who owns most land in india after Government Result: Catholic Church of India has 17 crores 29 lakhs of acres thru Indian church act 1927 by British Colonialism. Changanassery SB college,Aluva UC college,etc.are examples of free gifts from British to their faith. The gifting of free land can be given to Dharmasthans, Devasthans and Devaswoms too if Britain had no such intentions.
@adityachebrolu1992
@adityachebrolu1992 11 күн бұрын
bro hiding the real history and cultural appropriation wont work , the world has changed, people are able to google the real history of goan inquisition and st xavier take on brahmins and connect the dots, you might also wanna google "st xavier on brahmins" and "goan inquisition" and "appropriation wars by swarajyamag". A lot of countries lost their core religion and culture after European colonization buddy 😂🤣😂
@ApolloGemini11
@ApolloGemini11 Ай бұрын
This whole discussion was just a waste of time. I will not get back 39 minutes.
@stuv_wx
@stuv_wx Ай бұрын
Why?
@anoopmenon9914
@anoopmenon9914 Ай бұрын
@@stuv_wxhe knows that this is a biased communist historian talk
@jagdishramanathan2091
@jagdishramanathan2091 Ай бұрын
in most of biographies of freedom movement like gandhi etc except nehru we find that missionaries abusing the hindu gods laughing at krishna and gopis etc but at no time did the hindus question the illegitimate birth of jesus mainly because sanyassis are forbidden to speak bad language .people obeyed the religious leaders like swami vivekananda who never spoke bad about any faith islam or catholicism even though both were temple breakers .
@piyalibanerjee5445
@piyalibanerjee5445 Ай бұрын
very true. We believe that all path leads to go. They beleive only their path leads to god.
@jagdishramanathan2091
@jagdishramanathan2091 Ай бұрын
@piyalibanerjee5445 true .such dark convictions always was led by a bloodbath everywhere they went .
@akhiljames8807
@akhiljames8807 Ай бұрын
​@@piyalibanerjee5445 There are serious issues with the statement 'All paths lead to God'. Would aztec priests sacrificing children on the altar to please their God also be accepted in Hinduism? Would raping women in temples to please God be accepted? Would human sacrifices done by some tantric practicioners lead to God? No right so dont say all paths lead to God. Only the righteous, virtuous and truthful paths lead to God. Any other way is to be thrown away, it is from the devil. Christianity believes that morality is objective and not subjective. So there are 'ways' that humans can develop for selfish interests that are strictly a no go.
@danielnaik1730
@danielnaik1730 Ай бұрын
Is being born to God through the Holy Spirit (Jesus) or being born to the sperm of a bloody dead horse(Ram) illegitimate... Ohh you came with a good question but have any Hindu gods ever HOLY... no every God was one or the other way were bent to the arishadvargas
@sweetspot4906
@sweetspot4906 15 күн бұрын
Why are Hindu temples kept unclean compared to a church and mosque. Hindu temples are filthy to be honest, rats, monkeys, dogs, cows, snakes, man just anything everything is God. Not to mention the grotesque images of God's which sends shivers seeing them with gory and blood. Even worse threesome and blowjobs are craved on walls of temples. I'm agnostic but temples are not a good place to worship the divine. While sitting a church gives surreal sense of peace..
@smurugan12
@smurugan12 Ай бұрын
World with out any religion might be a peaceful world
@nv9991
@nv9991 Ай бұрын
Many native faiths and practices from all over South America failed to Abhramics. The entire North and East Africa surrendered to sex slave trader Mohamad, who invented Arab imperialism. The entire Asia, east of the Saudi peninsula, from Egypt to Uzbekistan, surrendered to Arab imperialism. But one faith, Sanatan Dharm, and its people endlessly fought both varieties' of Abhramic imperialism. They lost many times. But they did not totally surrender, unlike natives of South America, Africa, and North Asia. Today people in Uzbekistan have no clue who they were 2000 years ago. What was their way of looking at the purpose of life? What big questions did their ancestors ask? They just surrendered to Arabic imperialism. Today people of Pakistan are happy to be the progeny of "ma-malkat-maaima-nukum" women.
@akhiljames8807
@akhiljames8807 Ай бұрын
If you think Hinduism has not changed in the last 3000 years you have not read history. How come the harappans were not worshipping any of the Gods we see today? Why the adivasis dont believe in Karma? How come Vedas encourage animal sacrifice but today most Hindus dont do it? You have also changed your beliefs just like others ..humanity has evolved . Stop acting as if your religion is unchanged as if its immune to everything else. Christianity and Islam were natural progression from polytheism in the evolution of religion. Also there are some arguments that oldest african religions were monotheistic before getting corrupted.
@wisdomchase
@wisdomchase Ай бұрын
Interesting talk. Some points: - they seem to suggest that Hinduism isn't as diverse and diffuse as it used to be, and that Hindutva is somehow limiting and reducing its diversity and openness. We don't see it that way. We see Hindutva as the externally-oriented carapace protecting this basic unchanged core of Hinduism. All that's changed is that Hindus have developed tooth and talon with which to fight back. - notice how this book and talk pointedly avoid talking about Islam and its impact on Hinduism. Shows you their politics. Islam basically did far worse than European Christianity, but nobody has the guts to analyze. - and they seem to be fine with Hinduism remaining defensive and under siege, but not with going on the offensive to spread itself. Why should we have to be the ones being on the defensive from constant attacks? Why shouldn't we take the fight to the enemy? Why shouldn't we spread our culture? We too have great things to teach the world. Why should we let only the paranoid and intolerant desert cults dominate and rule the world? Somehow they're okay with Christianity and Islam exhibiting tribalism and xenophobia and they don't criticize that, but if Hindus do it for the sake of survival, it's BAAAD. - also, identities evolve all the time. Hindutva is a part of a process of modernization. I see nothing wrong or alien about that. - what Hindutva is basically doing is borrowing from the playbook of Christians and Muslims and deploying their own tactics against them, beating them at their own game. It is an immune response to the infection. If the infection goes away, then the immune response will too. - good to see Manu sidestep and carefully handle some of the host's leading questions. She certainly had an agenda she was pushing.
@reubennelson4086
@reubennelson4086 Ай бұрын
because ppl expect better from Hindus. Hindutva is basically the islamisation of Hinduism lol. Youve become the very thing you hate.
@arijitdakshi820
@arijitdakshi820 Ай бұрын
Gita becomes the Handbook text of Hinduism 🕉️ 22:30 English language 24:20
@ettuinthu
@ettuinthu Ай бұрын
Is it?
@mtarkes
@mtarkes Ай бұрын
I like Rama Lakshmi's style of interview.
@Sunilzizou
@Sunilzizou Ай бұрын
In india you kill missionaries and now you are complaining about britishers in England? What a hypocrite
@devdattam
@devdattam 21 күн бұрын
They are not needed in India. Period
@akhiljames8807
@akhiljames8807 14 күн бұрын
@@devdattam But why? This nation belongs to all its citizens
@Nature-xn3dp
@Nature-xn3dp 12 күн бұрын
​​@@akhiljames8807 non Indian origin Abrahamic cults have been brainwashing and destroying our rich culture for centuries. I am from Kerala, I know it very well. Why didn't you convert to Buddhism or Jainism but a foreign cult. Which demands you to mock and belittle your own ancestral culture?? Just search in comments of certain videos itself the mindset of Christian Muslim converts how obsessively they hate their ancestral culture and beliefs. I am not generalising all convert, but as you know the core concept of this Abrahamic religion is hating and destroying other cultures and belief systems. How come such a cult even qualifies to be a religion?? Do read ' Jesus in India' by a Russian historian or the documentary, your Jesus was trying to spread Sanatan or Budhist teachings . So what is the point of converting and spreading Abrahamic culture and converting in India??
@ansonthomas
@ansonthomas 13 күн бұрын
Why is the PRINT allowing such discussion, is to encourage more divisions. Is not PRINT playing politics in religion.
@Nature-xn3dp
@Nature-xn3dp 13 күн бұрын
I am wondering why the government is allowing Conversion by the 2 foreign religious cults in India which are destroying rich Indian culture and traditions. so how you / your ancestors converted to this copy paste Abrahamic cult?
@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388
@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 11 күн бұрын
@@Nature-xn3dpyou can claim your civilization only if you can prove you and each of your ancestors were Indians in each of their births/ reincarnations .
Ай бұрын
The core belief of Xianity and Islam that a real God will torture in hell the non believers of their books is nonsensical gibberish. Everyone should oppose and expose this toxic gibberish propagated by these two religions.
@akhiljames8807
@akhiljames8807 Ай бұрын
That is wrong interpretation of christian concept of hell but still it is better than being born a cockroach in next life just for eating beef steak
@akhiljames8807
@akhiljames8807 Ай бұрын
That is wrong interpretation of Christian concept of Hell. But still it is better than becoming a cockroach in next life just for eating a beef steak.
@akhiljames8807
@akhiljames8807 Ай бұрын
That is wrong interpretation of Christian concept of Hell. But still it is better than becoming a cockroach in next life just for eating a steak.
@kavilphilip
@kavilphilip Ай бұрын
The Hell and Heaven can be considered against the rebirth as an animal if karma is not good. Eventually, the idea is put forward in many differently in different faiths.
@danielnaik1730
@danielnaik1730 Ай бұрын
I said please go through the Holy Bible before commenting but you ignored ..😢
@simplywatch4802
@simplywatch4802 Ай бұрын
Many of his statments are wrong , how he can say that jesus from Europe, ..jesus is from asia from Israel ..Christianity originated in Israel not in Europe , what all he says is about last 300 year history, how abour last 2000 years , church are in kerala for more than 1800 years
@mindudorjeenaksang3014
@mindudorjeenaksang3014 Ай бұрын
Hindu came to life due to british rule..
@adityachebrolu1992
@adityachebrolu1992 11 күн бұрын
can you please elaborate it, vedas are 3500 years old and yoga is 5000 years old( google it) we had gurukuls and wealth due to our spices export, so please elaborate your point
@anishjoseph8171
@anishjoseph8171 Ай бұрын
They missed the point that chrustianity cane to india much before it reached europe. Moreover, christianity is not a european religion, rather if you read holy bible you will know that god created a nation from one man and through that nation he reached out ti the world fir rea of them to know him. That nation is israel. John3:16 God so loved the world that he gave his only son as a sacrifice, so that all his children are saved. Rug veda also says that inly sacrufice that can take away the sins of humans is god himself.
@adityachebrolu1992
@adityachebrolu1992 11 күн бұрын
With all due respect Rig veda is a lot older than Christianity, yes the kerala Christians came long before britishers, but cultural appropriation and forced conversions during british period like goan inquisition are also real parts of history aren't they
@smitamishra1446
@smitamishra1446 Ай бұрын
No one can be converted to Christianity. It is a personal decision and a relationship between an individual and Christ Jesus who died for the sins of every person on earth. ✝️🙏🏻 John 3:16
@TarekRamara
@TarekRamara Ай бұрын
Not true
@TarekRamara
@TarekRamara Ай бұрын
Native Americans were forcefully converted to Christianity. Millions were massacred.
@TarekRamara
@TarekRamara Ай бұрын
We all know what happened to Native Americans
@aletheiaacademy8896
@aletheiaacademy8896 Ай бұрын
​@@TarekRamaraNative Americans are still part of America. Colonialism isn't Christianity just as Raping and female infanticide isn't Hinduism.
@TheConduit10
@TheConduit10 Ай бұрын
Why fabricate English , if you want to quote jesus or John? give the original verse in the original language and then give the english translation , you cant live through anybody other than yourself , otherwise you going to be exploited , robbed and enslaved.
@Flower.2820
@Flower.2820 Ай бұрын
It’s a really shame when trying to get true information from these videos and random subjective comments without anyone actually citing papers or studies where we can look at sufficient data to support the claims and theories being made about such important topics which affects 1 billion people??
@Dheeraj-y4f
@Dheeraj-y4f Ай бұрын
✝️rash
@sameerchaturvedi6675
@sameerchaturvedi6675 Ай бұрын
Thanks, Manu. We need to safeguard academics from politicians And cancel culture
@anonymoustron989
@anonymoustron989 Ай бұрын
Whenever any asur came to earth they did same thing like don't pray to this devata or devi , looted etc same pattern, if you know hindu history it's all same, they came we fought with the help of devi ,devata we defeated them
@sanman8530
@sanman8530 Ай бұрын
He is making mistakes in every sentence. I dont know where to even begin. Please debate this with shakshi apologetics live so every thing will be crystal clear. Another attempt to brainwash Indians.
@adityachebrolu1992
@adityachebrolu1992 11 күн бұрын
cultural appropriation and goan inquisition are somethings you might wanna google yourself, every one know who brainwashes people by hiding true history and divide and rule policy
@al148
@al148 Ай бұрын
What a beautiful time for this discussion specifically with the rise of right globally. I was raised catholic and have always criticised christianity specifically during the previous govt. I find his work incredibly thought provoking and intellectually honest. Will be reading more. I love how he created an image of how the Hindu intellectual and missionaries debated, and the political incoming of christianity. Wonderful.
@Sridhar-n9s
@Sridhar-n9s 12 күн бұрын
Print is mainly for non hindu view point. This guy is brave to come to this channel. He Definitely needs to be applauded for standing up for right facts
@sweswarupini9732
@sweswarupini9732 Ай бұрын
Protecting god differ from serving god...i am right😊
@FreddieMurphy746
@FreddieMurphy746 Ай бұрын
God doesn't need any service as such. The indic faith mostly focuses on self-realization. Hence, u won't see Political commentary or talks of Proselytization of other faiths in Jain, Hindu, or Sikh temples. However, the Friday prayers and Sunday masses stress the importance of unified political choice, and the ways to bring as many people as possible into their way of life. They even collect a set percentage of fees ( Thites & Zakat)...
@akhiljames8807
@akhiljames8807 Ай бұрын
​@@FreddieMurphy746Iskon would like to differ..they do street evangelization here in Europe trying to attract foreign converts
@FreddieMurphy746
@FreddieMurphy746 Ай бұрын
@@akhiljames8807 They aren't considered Sanatan as they are the first who tried Abramaisation of Indic values
@mimanshatripathi6275
@mimanshatripathi6275 Ай бұрын
@@akhiljames8807 Iskon never insult another religion they just saying read the Gita and customer have to pay for that where as Islam and chritantiy tell people to baptize or take shadad so no they are not same
@skan5996
@skan5996 25 күн бұрын
As a kid I witnessed mocking of Hindu gods in my Christian school That has made me a stronger Hindu since I realized how Hindus are very broad minded but others are not
@msriram9884
@msriram9884 Ай бұрын
Yet the Christians control the majority of educational content, especially higher education in India. The church has vast amounts of land in India. And particularly in southern India, the ongoing missionary activity continues. The British did enormous harm to Hinduism, especially the missionaries by introducing the north-south divide the Aryan Dravidian divide. Tamil Nadu which has gotten the highest amount of Christian missionary, evangelical attention is a testament to the impact of this activity. The ancient Tamil culture is fading, replaced by Christianity.
@rajendranm6660
@rajendranm6660 Ай бұрын
We are supreme and born in the higher order all others are below our feet. You are not allowed into our street and temple. So, they left our bullshits and joined another bullshits which is far better than the former bullshits.
@underdogs703
@underdogs703 Ай бұрын
@@msriram9884 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 so many errors in a single paragraph. Hindus with thousands of Castes on a regular fight, Unutouchability, discrimination, dalit killings and superstitions and social evils lol. It takes consensus stupidity to talk so much lies in a single para.
@Nature-xn3dp
@Nature-xn3dp 12 күн бұрын
​@@underdogs703 what about Jewish & Roma genocide African slavery by christians? Which is more heinous discrimination or genocide and slavery?? Let me see how you are going to balance this by the rice bags you got for converting.
@adityachebrolu1992
@adityachebrolu1992 11 күн бұрын
@@underdogs703 Caste and verna are different, google "gita 18.41 sloka" and educate me where "by birth" is mentioned in it, and you mean to say there is no discriminations in other religions other than Hinduism, please google that aswell, what are "witch killings" tell me, holding a religion accountable is good but only holding Hinduism accountable and blatantly ignoring discriminations in other religions might not be the right way to go. It would be great if you read the gita once
@jsj131
@jsj131 Ай бұрын
How Christians are made to become Hindus in the garb of gurus?
@icancyou
@icancyou Ай бұрын
Just search in Google: Who owns most land in india after Government Result: Catholic Church of India has 17 crores 29 lakhs of acres thru Indian church act 1927 by British Colonialism. Changanassery SB college,Aluva UC college,etc.are examples of free gifts from British to their faith. The gifting of free land can be given to Dharmasthans, Devasthans and Devaswoms too if Britain had no such intentions.
@prasadpalayyan588
@prasadpalayyan588 Ай бұрын
What is God? Who is God? Why is God? Creatures can't be God. God is a 1-self existing, 2-eternal 3-infinite 4-incomprehensible 5-transcendental 6-personal being. Thats what Christians beleives!
@Parttimebusiness1
@Parttimebusiness1 Ай бұрын
This guy is a liberal, trying to explain away his ignorance on 'Caste' and "Brahmins".😄
@rajshekhar1147
@rajshekhar1147 Ай бұрын
Why Rama Lakshmi looking agitated n angry ?
@arunkollan
@arunkollan Ай бұрын
She is projecting Brahmin disdain 😂. A peculiar and odd suppression of secret fascination
@shivakrishna1743
@shivakrishna1743 Ай бұрын
when did being resilient and being victim become mutually exclusive? Is the interviewer biased and trying to push a narrative?
@manlath
@manlath Ай бұрын
Victimhoodism
@shashanksri5993
@shashanksri5993 Ай бұрын
Thanks for this great conversation. Much learning from this
@sivavenkatesh1750
@sivavenkatesh1750 Ай бұрын
Manu please discuss about 2000 years Brahminsm and Sudra Hindus atrocities, Independence period last 100 years Brahmins talking about Hindus unity. But according to Sanathana Dharma why RSS terrorists not allowing OBC MBC SC ST WOMEN As PRIESTS. Please declare One India, One Nation, One Caste , no caste discrimination in the name of race and holy thread
@devdattam
@devdattam 21 күн бұрын
He cant…because unfortunately all that is myth propagated by your white masters… the only way he can is by becoming a fiction writer, but then he will cease to be a historian
@adityachebrolu1992
@adityachebrolu1992 11 күн бұрын
Sir temples are under government control sir, Gita does not mention "by birth" anywhere sir, please google "gita 18.41 sloka" and read it fully and enlightens me where birth is mentioned in it sir, varna is a way of life sir, please read gita once fully when you get time sir, caste discrimination is there but it is not mentioned in gita sir, please read gita sir
@sivavenkatesh1750
@sivavenkatesh1750 Ай бұрын
From British rulers supportied Sanskrit Brahmins caste domination and British Missionary gave English equal education uniforms for Sudra Hindus instead of Brahmins only Gurugulam. Thats why EWS 10% opposing government companies to avoid reservation for 90% Sudra Hindus. Modi encourage privatization to guarantee 100% reservation for EWS Brahmins Banya Marvadis
@neilcordeiro
@neilcordeiro Ай бұрын
Superb discussion...one point is that Jesus didn't come to the Europeans, he came to the Israeli people...this is where God appeared as a man, which was predicted centuries before...also one of his disciples St.Thomas came to India to give the great news, centuries before the Portuguese. Pls ponder on all these finer points...and read more...
@piyalibanerjee5445
@piyalibanerjee5445 Ай бұрын
yes on this earth god always appeared thorugh man and also always spoke only to men and especially Arab men. And yes that book which predicted god's son to come to earth also said that solar system is earth centric and was created some 4000 years before Jesos sets foot on earth. God seems not to know his own creations!!!!!
@akhiljames8807
@akhiljames8807 Ай бұрын
@@piyalibanerjee5445 Bible is not a scientific book,it is a theological book. It does not tell the age of the universe but why the universe was created. Roman empire was the centre of the trade route when Christ came and Israel had strict monotheism being followed before Christ. So God came to right place for all humanity.
@piyalibanerjee5445
@piyalibanerjee5445 Ай бұрын
@@akhiljames8807 It seems that you are disregarding Genesis and older parts of the Bible that talk of creation and cosmology. If so, that is good. For the theology part recently even Pope Francis said in Singapore "All religions are paths to God ... they are like different languages that express the divine". That seems to demote any unique position Christianity and more generally monotheism may have. There was more trade between India and other parts of the world 2000 years ago (e.g. South East Asia, Arabia, Mediterranean) than there was in Roman Empire. Roman records lamenting the extreme trade imbalance with India are still extant. That seems to diminish your point about Roman Empire. Finally, why should God be a He? Why should God's word only get revealed through male prophets as is the case in all Abrahamic traditions? Makes you wonder how universal the theological message is! Why is God still creating non Christians in this world, even though his Son has come and gone?
@akhiljames8807
@akhiljames8807 15 күн бұрын
@@piyalibanerjee5445 All men? Have you even read the bible?
@akhiljames8807
@akhiljames8807 15 күн бұрын
@@piyalibanerjee5445 All religions have elements of truth that is the official position of catholic church. I agree with it but that does in no way diminsh the unique position of christianity that God comes forth in history in search of man when he does not deserve it. Christianity has the fullness of truth. It is the safest way to eternal union with God and we will continue to preach this uniqueness.
@jsj131
@jsj131 Ай бұрын
They have educated and civilized people. You will say this now after travelling a long way from.
@adityachebrolu1992
@adityachebrolu1992 11 күн бұрын
lol we had our gurukuls and vedas and upanisiaded some of which were 3500 years old, after britishers came the gurukuls were shutdown, hindu temples were controlled by britishers
@jaylivi
@jaylivi Ай бұрын
He seem to know very little about Christianity or it's history. It would be best if he sticks to what he knows, otherwise would come across as a fraud
@Spr-no9oy
@Spr-no9oy Ай бұрын
Are you getting triggered by the truth
@jaylivi
@jaylivi Ай бұрын
@Spr-no9oy which truth?
@ranikalakaar
@ranikalakaar Ай бұрын
She's not talking about Christianism.
@jacobsylas-fq3kg
@jacobsylas-fq3kg Ай бұрын
Why u speaking English..you spoke sanskrit...
@samthomas3009
@samthomas3009 16 күн бұрын
There is only one real religion that is humanity. If the religion align with humanity it survives.
@ShaileshKumar-io2zn
@ShaileshKumar-io2zn Ай бұрын
Disinformation disinformation disinformation from print, manu keep it up 😂 vande Mataram
@Gajjala-oi4cc
@Gajjala-oi4cc 20 күн бұрын
I’m not sure if foriegn based evangelism is responsible for anymore conversions. In my home state Andhra pradesh it is local evangelical pastors are responsible for huge conversions that are taking place in India. After seeing many trends and patterns I forsee below issues. 1. As long as caste system exists in Hindusim particularly untouchability and continuous exploitation and margilinilzation there will be evangelicals or Islam imams who use that to convert people although Hinduism is steadily progressing into modernity. 2. Hindusim or atleast out ancestors have created multiple schools of philosophies, thoughts probably hoping everyone including atheists would have space in those philosophies but monolithic religions like Islam and christianity use this to create confusion and convert. 3. Like in kerala there is a possibility eventually almost all states will see rise in Christianity along with Islam leading to more friction and seeking own identities. 4. Present day Indians lack sense of rationale though that depends on debate, knowledge seeking, logic and tolerance. Particularly the converted christians in my state are being brain washed into hating Hinduism which in future may lead to sectarianism. 5. As percentage of hindu population keeps falling (actually christian or Islam population will grow) society becomes more diverse leading to more vote bank politics thereby bringing common personal laws will be more difficult (meaning BJP must act now and bring UCC) 6. Ability of Hindus to drive the nation’s future will go down unless Hindus doesn’t unite. 7. Hindus must institutionalize more for temple and their properties, religious customs amd rituals, particularly bring down casteism, some superstitions and customs that are against or regressive towards some caste, sect, region or gender. 8. We need something like a secret informal institution that works towards the cause of Hindusim to drive our interests and also something similar to drive our country’s interests.
@johngeevarghese1354
@johngeevarghese1354 Ай бұрын
I hope your book includes AMY CARMICHAEL, MOTHER TERESA, DAVID LIVINGSTONE IN AFRICA, WILLIAM WILBERFORCE BRITISH PARLIAMENTARIAN OF THE CLAPHAM SECT AND SCORES OF OTHERS WHO FOUGHT AGAINST WESTERN SECULARISTS MASQUERADING AS CHRISTIANS. BUT for christian missionaries we would be slaves of brahmins still and there would be still the queer marriage customs in our native KERALA.
@nabhinayyam
@nabhinayyam Ай бұрын
Slaves of Brahmins 😂😂😂 Queer marriage customs 😂😂😂 you may kiss your bride as the bride is pregnant or with the kids 😂😂😂😂
@nishadass6960
@nishadass6960 Ай бұрын
Your ancestors may have been slaves of Brahmins. None of ours were. Mother Theresa was a monster. Offering the poor succour in return for conversion is a disgusting practise..only you christians think it's a wonderful thing to rob people first, reduce them to poverty and then convert them to your piece of shit religion
@snair8448
@snair8448 Ай бұрын
What do you say about 60+M natives were killed in the Americas, plus more in Africa, Australia, New Zealand! Christianity has never reformed from idea they are superior to all and therefore a brown, non-Christian are bottom of societal structure. Even forcibly converted natives in the west are treated worse than beasts. Hinduism has evolved and always does to modern times where tribals or oppressed communities can be in positions of power whereas nothing of this sort in the West nor will it happen! Christianity still condones racism, gender, patriarchal control of everyone else!
@bharathithadigotla5101
@bharathithadigotla5101 Ай бұрын
Great, same colonial propogonda showing brahminsa as monsters to destroy local culture still shows how Hindus are resilient and tolerant still living peacefully amongst colonial brain washers like you.
@bharathithadigotla5101
@bharathithadigotla5101 Ай бұрын
There is Hindu doctor in Karnataka who gave crores of his own land freely for schools. Did operations to poor . And I can give so many examples. Only thing is the west only propogates mother Theresa and people like her who has nothing to give and undermine local people who do good. This itself is colonialism. There hundreds of mother Theresa in Hinduism who don't project and go behind media and noble prizes or given space by westerners
@samskaria4991
@samskaria4991 11 күн бұрын
How did the Europeans understand the ritual of Sati?
@jaylivi
@jaylivi Ай бұрын
Hmm, if an average Hindu is compared against a murderer who's is Christian in terms of actions, that's a BIGOT! This guy has does not provide a balanced narrative but a biased one, and not ashamed to manipulate and lie. Shameful guys
@jpblitz2104
@jpblitz2104 Ай бұрын
Brilliant conversation. The English went to India mainly for trade and looting, whereas the Portuguese went to India mainly for spices, religion and trade. The Hindus - and Moors - had been affected in two completely different ways by these two colonial powers. However, before these two powers showed up, many Hindus had been at war with each other and with Muslims, so many of the former had sided both these European powers to help them stay in power and get protection in return to payments.
@PollyNature98
@PollyNature98 Ай бұрын
Where is the Renaissance in our country rather than Europe undergone?
@pallaviagrawal5508
@pallaviagrawal5508 Ай бұрын
The host forgets that resilence matters in difficult situations only,, a very funny question were we victims or is the story of resilience
@roughvlogs7620
@roughvlogs7620 14 күн бұрын
i can see so much hindu pride in the comments. bravo.. !! can atleast one person say what is hindu religion? and where is it mentioned in vedas? what is wrong in practicing a foreign religion if it is the only truth..? also why are you making and worshipping idols of gods when it is written in vedas that not to make pictures or idols of god..?
@adityachebrolu1992
@adityachebrolu1992 11 күн бұрын
also can you also enlighten me why forced conversion are needed, why so many hindu temples are under government control while non hindu sites are not, why non hindus have separate marriage law, why gurukuls were shut down after britishers came to India and why britishers took control of hindu temples, and most importantly what is goan inquestion by Portuguese , Please read Hindus in Hindurastra book once it is 200pages book so wont take much time.
@roughvlogs7620
@roughvlogs7620 11 күн бұрын
@@adityachebrolu1992 Forced conversions are not needed at all. Also helping those hindus who aren't allowed to have an education, or giving them a respectable job, or a vehicle or even chappals is not forced conversions don't you agree..? There are places in India if a dhalit wears a chappal the uppercast people will beat you to death. If giving them the basic respect as a human will open their eyes to truth, then let be it. Hindu's doesn't want hindus to read their own holy books, especially the vedas. In that case why shouldn't they read Bible or Qur'an and try to understand those religion..? And about the religious properties, every temple was built by the rulers of every land. Not by the people themselves. But the churches and the Mosques weren't like that. Imthey were built by the commoners for their religious practices. There are many family temples across India, which owned and controlled by the families not the govt. No body wants the government control over the temples. Why don't you ask modi to give control to hindus..? No other religious people care about who controls temples. Also many Hindu temples are originally budhist or jain temples, just like babri masjid they were also converted to Hindu temples. May those who stolen from might care about it. Others don't. Why non Hindu's have separate marriage laws..??? Christians doesn't have separate marriage laws.. may be others like muslims do. What's wrong with it. It doesn't harm you anyway. Why do you care? Their religion might emphasize how to do marriage in a certain way. Let them live how ever they like. Joulousy is not healthy. I don't know why gurukuls got shut down.. there were many Hindu kings in India, they should've promoted gurukul.. why didn't they..? Goan inquisition was completely wrong. I don't support it. Can you share a link for Hindu's in hindurashtra, so that I can read it online when I am free. Also can you atleast try to answer my questions in the first comment rather than hiding behind whataboutery?
@haridasan2863
@haridasan2863 Ай бұрын
GOOD... He is very clear and convinced...
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