New Hitachi Railcars Testing, And Some Budd UTV’s (Baltimore Subway)

[@eLTransport-Liberec]

Beautiful video my friend. Nice work. Greetings. :) BIG LIKE

[@DCAreaTransitFan]

I’m glad these have the same propulsion as miami now I don’t have to travel far

[@txrnadotylxr]

I live next to Maryland, can't wait to go see those!

[@SteveGettingAroundPhilly]

Cool to see them running! Need to head down to Baltimore to try them when they enter service, especially since they could be an indicator of what the new cars for the Market-Frankford Line in Philadelphia could be like, since they picked Hitachi to be the builder recently. Narrower loading gauge compared to Baltimore, I know, but could be interesting regardless.

[@Blank00]

On one hand, Maybe Hitachi might continue making the AnsaldoBreda designed systems. But on the other hand, maybe Hitachi might phase out the AnsaldoBreda systems for actual Hitachi systems that have been used in Japanese metro systems. Septa and WMATA both ordered Hitachi trains after the merger with AnsaldoBreda, whereas Miami and Baltimore ordered these trains while AnsaldoBreda was still around.

[@marcleslac2413]

However as we know, Budd don't break.

[@Kawasakifilms1340]

Looks just like the r211

[@blue9multimediagroup]

Not quite, but similar with the lights

[@SuperWorldRailFanProductions]

YES!! They sound just like Miami's!!

[@HIDLad001]

They have some of the coolest propulsion sounds of any rolling stock made in the last 10 years

[@Blank00]

Do you think the WMATA 8000 series and Market Frankfort M5 trains will sound like this too?

[@SuperWorldRailFanProductions]

@@Blank00 I am not sure to be honeest, but maybe similar. Also note that these and Miami's were built at the same plant in Florida. WMATA's 8000 series will be built in Maryland.

[@HIDLad001]

@ I hope so, but I’m not sure. They will be made by Hitachi Rail in Hagerstown, MD, as opposed to Hitachi Rail Italy (formerly AnsaldoBreda) in Miami, Florida, so they may be different.

[@Bloor25]

Looks like the new LACMTA subway trains made by CRRC

[@blue9multimediagroup]

Only the yellow

[@YourAverageRailfan]

@Bloor25 Just wish the sides were a lil more colorful

[@xmarxsthespot4844]

Damn, the old train is now pissed (ima miss it btw)

[@OfficialRodrigoLeon]

Woah these cars look good. These have regular seats facing their direction. The LA subway built by CRRC will unfortunately have side streets (which I’m not a fan of).

[@graythewolf6096]

AnsaldoBreda style propulsion inverter sounds! Very Italian! Edit: I do love the chopper sounds of the old Budd coaches! Anyone know who manufactured the choppers for these? Westinghouse perhaps?

[@blue9multimediagroup]

That's not a chopper. That's more than likely IGBT since they tend to whine like that.

[@graythewolf6096]

@@blue9multimediagroup I did a quick search, indeed the Budd Universal Transit Vehicles do use Westinghouse chopper like I predicted! IGBT, however, is just a type of switching element which indeed does whine, but that does not immediately mean that it is not a chopper! The new Hitachi vehicles use VVVF Inverters to power 3-Phase AC motors while the old Budds use a chopper to control the DC motors. The Hitachi would indeed most likely use IGBTs as the switching elements for its VVVF inverter. However, its most likely for the Budd to use GTOs for its switching elements instead considering the cars were made in the 80s.

[@tomwujek4867]

The old Budd trains use Westinghouse propulsion and those are DC motors with GTO Thyristors. The new Hitachi trains are using IGBT inverters and basically a nearly identical propulsion system to what Miami used on their trains. One thing that Baltimore usually does is they tend to co-develop their trains with Miami and has made that a practice since both systems opened in the 1980's.

[@cornkopp2985]

that's a crazy sound

[@YourAverageRailfan]

I did NOT expect this video to blow up. Tysm everyone!

[@michealguillen8496]

It is the same as the LIRR M7 VERSIONS motions traction Well done, brother 👏 👍 gladly baoiltmore

[@Blank00]

@@michealguillen8496 not even close. These trains use propulsion systems designed by an Italian company that merged. The M7 gets their propulsion systems from Mitsubishi, which has been Japanese for its entire existence

[@chickhenkein_FAK...]

Nice!

[@TheMegaFranBoy]

It's the news that Baltimore commuters have been waiting to hear! The Hitachi trains are coming before you know it!

[@Rebelnightwolfe]

We're finally getting some new trains! I prefer the old horn though. It sounds more natural. The new one is a bit high pitched.

[@vishc645]

1:16 They had to be testing emergency stop. Also, I kind of knew they would sound just like Miami's

[@bb-3653]

You can hear the Hitchi style gearboxes too

[@jayo1212]

I hope they will save some old cars for the Baltimore Streetcar museum...

[@azurite1398]

Looks just like the

[@isaacwilliams4761]

The new train's motor sounds like Miami Metrorail and Honolulu Skyline trains

[@cornkopp2985]

they're the same model as the miami trains and were a joint order i believe (just like the original budd cars)

[@blue9multimediagroup]

​@@cornkopp2985yup Joint order for the second time

[@chickhenkein_FAK...]

I am also from baltimore

[@bb-3653]

Wow it sounds like it has gto thyristor

[@graythewolf6096]

More likely to be IGBTs! GTO Thyristors have become obsolete in the 21st century. IGBTs tend to be much more efficient, and tend to have higher switching frequencies!

[@tomwujek4867]

They are IGBT inverters. GTO was phased out by the late 1990's-early 2000's on new train projects.

[@bb-3653]

@@graythewolf6096 yeah I know the funny part is why it still sounds like one. Which is cool asf!

[@bb-3653]

@@tomwujek4867 yep I know. It's just cool to hear them sounding like a GTO.

[@bb-3653]

​@@graythewolf6096It also sounds like the Copenhagen metro.

[@thomasday2351]

Same Motor Sound As The Miami Metro!

[@TheRailcarbusguy]

You think the WMATA 8000 series will sound the same? They probably will since you know same manufacturer.

[@CSAviationandTransitChannel]

And the same motor sound as the Honolulu Skyline

[@thomasday2351]

@@TheRailcarbusguy I don't know at this I'll take a guess probably because I'm a WMATA Of Metro Railcars

[@thealexpshow782]

These trains honestly look newer than the Miami trains

[@TheRailcarbusguy]

@@thealexpshow782 They really do

[@Izon14n]

Front and back looks like the R211

[@blue9multimediagroup]

Nah

[@BDavinci06]

I say 211-ish 😂😂😂

[@Izon14n]

@@BDavinci06 lol yeah

[@Lucrativecris]

Fun fact they used one set of these on the testing of the B line (LA Metro) before they opened the line to the public

[@YourAverageRailfan]

The Budds? You got any recordings of this or proof, I’m genuinely interested in this

[@Lucrativecris]

@@YourAverageRailfan I saw photos of it on Twitter someone posted them

[@YourAverageRailfan]

Alr thanks a lot, Stay safe!

[@Lucrativecris]

They look like LA’s new subway😂

[@Jytami]

Are they walk through?

[@vishc645]

Unfortunately, no

[@joefinley350]

I wish MARTA has these

[@blue9multimediagroup]

They're getting new cars from STADLER

[@BDavinci06]

They're getting the Toronto Rockets style cars but built by Stadler