Fact: The hardest thing about this mode is having enough character with the required elements (with decent build too)
@takuyamishima82 ай бұрын
As someone who built everyone to lvl 90 and relevant talents to 9-10 (except amber, xinyan, other trash useless characters), this game mode is ez af for me🤣
@RileySauce2852 ай бұрын
Ik!! The only electro i use is fishcl 😭
@crazyanimeguycag89532 ай бұрын
Yeah bro it’s just dumb , imagine rerolling for gruper in monolith defence, it’s not even hard it’s annoying, the teams you end up with are not even real teams and yes if you don’t have enought characters your cooked ( wtf is up with must have all 4 characters) imagine if hydro was there there is like only 3 4 stars characters in that element Barbara xingqiu Candice , and most people have only xingqiu build and rest are 5 stars you not ony need decent build characters but a lot of build characters and even if I don’t have problem with that people who are not playing since beginning are cooked again , and any f2p with not so much 5 stars. In my opinion this can’t be called endgame, even abyss is less luck and more skill dependent, and that is saying something. Plus what the fu*k is with elemental rasizm like this game is about reactions what’s the point of excluding half the reactions every month. Plus the audience of this bs of a endgame content just got halfed from people who can even 36 star abyss. Some people enjoy minmaxing that’s their main way of enjoying the game it was enought so far but now if they want to clear all endgame they can’t anymore and that’s why it sucks. Plus players build mostly for meta or characters they like and for this sh*t you need to pull even more and for characters you might not even like or that are not even that good like tf is that , that’s not even endgame that’s just a greasy greedy money grab with lowering abyss reset.
@Gonshaaa2 ай бұрын
@@crazyanimeguycag8953Brother even the hardest difficulty is not that hard, you dont even need to build your characters that well, the trial characters are more than good enough to clear, you just need to put a bit of an effort with your own characters, it's not that deep
@NaimHeC2 ай бұрын
I had like half of the characters without builds and I had to clear some of the levels using only two or three characters while the others were just there in the team
@MilenaJK2 ай бұрын
True! I also said to my friends it is more like event challenges, small simulated universe. I was afraid to spend those purple coins as I thought I have to exchange them for rewards after. But even with random characters it didnt bother me much. Well, at least more characters are used because I had no motivation play them even if they were built
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
Well, once its done, gonna wait for another 30 days to use them again if element allow otherwise 60 days kekw
@X-Lord_Tuls_A-X__Mr-M2 ай бұрын
Hoyo be like:- Fk your meta, think differently 😂
@Zindril2 ай бұрын
Love how ppl complain about needing to BARELY build some extra characters to simply fill out teams to beat easy difficulty challenges... when Honkai Star Rail requires insane investment PF/MOC/Apocalyptic shadow premium units with insane relics and even signature light cones to STILL BE HARDER than this. Ppl are so dumb I swear.
@dazc99652 ай бұрын
Yeah... idk about the takes here lol. like I get if people are disappointed since it is really short (especially because it's supposed to last a full month :/) and the gameplay is just the same old stuff for the most part. but people are complaining about new players not being able to clear it when it's an endgame mode, or that they have to *gasp* build more characters and play different teams. like that's the entire point of the gamemode, lmao. it's to incentivize levelling more characters and being more creative with teams by limiting the options, so you aren't just playing the same 8-12 chars forever. there's probably better ways to do it but that's still the whole purpose of IT people who have pulled a lot and built all the characters on their account will breeze through it obviously, but there's some other veteran players (like myself) who've been 36*ing abyss with the same few teams for like years now without any reason to build other characters, especially if they aren't meta. IT is most likely aimed at those players. i'm not saying IT is a perfect or even great gamemode (i enjoyed it mostly because you could talk to the characters after each performance hehe) but i feel like people just don't understand what it is. that it encourages you to build more characters isn't a criticism, that's just a fact. (and genshin is a gacha, it's always going to want you to pull more characters no matter what lol)
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
Personally what I think about this mode, are that team comp become redundant since half of the team thats being widely used are unable to formed with the limitation, you just need to have good carries like 4-5 of them and solo it. Replayability is also out of the window due to team comp limitation, unlike spiral abyss at the very least player still able to have the opportunity to try out different team. RnG aspect also a problem, like the 4* challenge in this video, I need to hope that getting character selection and vigor restore even to complete the challenge, further reducing the fun aspect... Haiya... Forcing player to bring 4 units is also pretty bad design since some act can be just done with 1 or 2 character. Shouldnt have limit that I would say. Well, since this is the first version. Not having my hope high but I still hope that some QoL will be implemented xD
@dazc99652 ай бұрын
@@KenRurouni Oh yeah, I was addressing some comments I saw rather than your opinion (i shouldve clarified lol) - i think all these are very fair criticisms. i don't think this current state of the gamemode even does a great job at the goals i mentioned, since it doesn't really make any weaker units more viable or attractive. it's just that most of the complaints i've seen are about needing to have 18 characters built, or being too frustrating for new players, which i feel like is missing the point. i do think it's intuitive that spiral abyss and IT be focused on vertical and horizontal investment respectively, but in its current state IT can only achieve that through all of its limitations and handicaps, which isn't too interesting of an experience. I only ran it once and i definitely agree on lack of replayability (exacerbated by how little content there really is), so there's probably parts of the experience i missed as well that could hinder the enjoyment. i hope hoyo can work it out more in future seasons, IT definitely does have a place imo, and i like their attempts to make it more interractive than abyss. but that likely won't happen for many months if at all, so for now i'm dreading geo/dendro/anemo season LOL
@history.fictionologist2 ай бұрын
Elysian realm and SimU : look at what they made to mimic a fraction of our power🤣
@hungnao2822 ай бұрын
Imagine a reset with geo anemo and dendro, probaly not gonna happen but imagine that, literally no sygnergy
@bluevelvet82132 ай бұрын
I like the thing about selecting buff and randomize char. Reminds me of that infamous 2.2 childe main event. I hate the limitation, just lazy way to force you use certain characters. Will be fine with this content if its keeping abyss twice a month like before. Anyway i know yuuki will make it this content look easy. Great run!
@aley262 ай бұрын
Also why did they have to set the limit for characters from friends to 1. Literally one. And us that want to help others have a limit of 15 but the friend list is increased to 100. I pretty much hit 15 within a few hours. This event still has a month to go... could only help very few friends.
@komgoo49742 ай бұрын
My biggest wish for this game mode is to be able to switch artifacts mid run (I don’t think it’s possible currently) but who has 4 sets of vv just lying around
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
Hyv: No entry for sea dragon, wait for another 30 days
@daughterofgorgias72352 ай бұрын
Saying I hate this gamemode would be an understatement
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
Dont hate it... Embrace it xD!
@aryune2 ай бұрын
Same
@spicy_xinger2 ай бұрын
you dont even really need decent builds since you just have to complete the thing and it isnt really timed. hardest part of abyss is meeting the time
@TheGeekyRedMage2 ай бұрын
Seeing people not liking the new game mode... I've said it before and I'll say it again: what did you expect? Spiral Abyss itself is a pretty bad "post-game" mode so I had no expectations for their new "post-game" content. And like, I'm hardly surprise. Genshin is not a game focus on action combat. It's an open world adventure game, with the action gameplay meant to supplement the exploration. If your really want to play a game where you focus on the combat, you either make your own fun in Genshin (like I do), or you play a game where action combat is the actual focus. Like Bayonetta for example, or if you really need to play a gacha for some reason, Wuthering Waves ig (or Honkai Impact 3rd for a Hoyo game where the game is actually action focus).
@TheGeekyRedMage2 ай бұрын
I will add. If Hoyo really wanted to add a "post game" mode that played into Genshin's strength, then then would create something like a randomly generated dungeon with various challenges, puzzles, and environment than players can use to aid in combat. But I imagine that would require putting more resources into a "post game" mode that they are not willing to do when such resources could be invested into the actual open world itself.
@harfi2122 ай бұрын
Spiral abyss is not really that popular, not a lot of people do the floor 12. Thats why mihoyo dont put much endgame combat. Even now i see a lot of people crying this mode is hard coz they need to have a lot of build character.
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
I would say Spiral Abyss is at least way more fun compare to this even if its bad. Expectation was low but not this low... Spiral abyss is not really that bad for a post game but even so the mode doesn't stop you to try out different team. This mode literally remove the core selling point of genshin impact combat system which is elemental reaction. Since Fontaine, they have been selling mono element really hard. Introduction of Chevreuse further pushing raw damage, overload is there just to mimic VV set with restriction of element. With this mode, further restricting its core gameplay is actually a really sad thing to see. The only exception in Fontaine is actually Arlecchino which bring back the joy of elemental reaction. All the other unit got hard stuck on mono element. Core issue for this game mode, it's not designed for end game veteran player since the difficulty is at most floor 11 chamber 1, yes its not even chamber 3 difficulty. This is also not designed for early-mid game player as they don't have enough character to challenge the hard mode. They really should just either go all the way casual that allow everyone to enjoy or just all the way for veteran player like how final fantasy 14 introduce Ultimate raid for those end game veteran player...
@rineqe2 ай бұрын
Lisa, Razor and electro Lumine POG
@ASRs7N10Ай бұрын
nice video .. ken
@KenRurouniАй бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@aintailstweentales79642 ай бұрын
imagine waiting for 3+ years for a new endgame content and just finishing it in just one run in a few minutes 😞😞 we even have to wait a full month for the next reset because it alternates with abyss 😐😐 They should've added more stages or difficulties and change the rewards to point system where you can still claim rewards the more you play again and again, now this whole gameplay is just another waste of space, those buffs isn't even that good 😢 I don't even know for whom they made this, definitely not for Old players (too boring and easy) not even for New players (cause not enough built characters for roster) ✨✨ This is bullshit. ✨✨
@crazyanimeguycag89532 ай бұрын
Yeah bro it’s just dumb , imagine rerolling for gruper in monolith defence, it’s not even hard it’s annoying, the teams you end up with are not even real teams and yes if you don’t have enought characters your cooked ( wtf is up with must have all 4 characters) imagine if hydro was there there is like only 3 4 stars characters in that element Barbara xingqiu Candice , and most people have only xingqiu build and rest are 5 stars you not ony need decent build characters but a lot of build characters and even if I don’t have problem with that people who are not playing since beginning are cooked again , and any f2p with not so much 5 stars. In my opinion this can’t be called endgame, even abyss is less luck and more skill dependent, and that is saying something. Plus what the fu*k is with elemental rasizm like this game is about reactions what’s the point of excluding half the reactions every month. Plus the audience of this bs of a endgame content just got halfed from people who can even 36 star abyss. Some people enjoy minmaxing that’s their main way of enjoying the game it was enought so far but now if they want to clear all endgame they can’t anymore and that’s why it sucks. Plus players build mostly for meta or characters they like and for this sh*t you need to pull even more and for characters you might not even like or that are not even that good like tf is that , that’s not even endgame that’s just a greasy greedy money grab with lowering abyss reset.
@louisaniathemagnificent82462 ай бұрын
I mean no one was waiting for a new endgame in the first place lmao. Most genshin players don't give a damn about endgame anyways including the abyss as they play for the world, lore and characters. Players who were waiting for new endgame contents are in the minority, so why would mihoyo cater to them when the casual players don't care about endgame content?
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
Well not sure what hyv is thinking. Even abyss is minority, they should still look into the those number. Final fantasy 14 is also a casual game, but the developer still look into hardcore player raid content, introducing Ultimate raid every 9 months. Not saying hyv need to follow everything that square enix did but the attitude on releasing new game mode is seriously concerning. This game mode difficulty is not for end game player and its also not for casual early mid game player with the amount of character they need. They need to pick either side and not something in between...
@le_pinjan2 ай бұрын
Nice video yuuki san But I didn’t understand anything Maybe I’ll do it on my own and see 🤣
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
Not much to understand in this mode, spend your point get buff or more character then you can clear.
@xanaviii2 ай бұрын
Well, from the way the UI for the difficultly selection still has extra space, heres copium that they mean to add an "extreme/very hard" difficultly in the future.
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
Doubt so but one can hope xD!
@watchfulalt2 ай бұрын
I think you missed out on showing Chevy build, is that because they were unbuilt at level 70? I was more curious of constellations.
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
oh forgot about her, she's c2 and running Noblesse + Favo Lance.
@earlaaaat2 ай бұрын
Even finished the event with 4 hyper carries
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
Thats the problem with this mode, im happy hypercarries get to shine instead of the usual support but the game mode dont allow solo with 1 character which make me sad hahahha
@earlaaaat2 ай бұрын
@@KenRurouni could not agree more this, really have to force the 4 hyper carries lmao
@firestar62 ай бұрын
I honestly can't believe they still managed to mess this up so badly. For me if they remove either the element limit or the vigor system it will be better. Honestly make it the vigor system because I'm pretty sure they tried this out before in a different event and ppl hated it. I made it to the primordial beings and with me in the progress of trying to get characters caught up I had to use trials characters, well we all know the trial characters are the characters of all time but having 90 seconds to defeat them both when they can revive each other is a bit ridiculous. But yeah overall if you ask me it's good but too much extra stuff, remove either the element limit or vigor system and then it'll be more fun. If I had to choose well sorry to compare but I still much rather pock star rail's endgame over this because at least you can use whoever you want and for however many times you want, sure the enemies get buffs and become sponges but still better.
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
Personally Vigor is fine but the game mode shouldn't force player to pick all 4 to start the fight. Some act can be just solo or duo by decent 5* character but forcing ppl to use all 4 for the sake of reducing vigor is pretty bad design... Element limitation is another way to sell character, they want player to get more character just to gain the reward I guess...
@josephwashington77302 ай бұрын
Why cant i do it its saying i only have 16 Select booker character not enough to start challenge Select Booker character not enough to start challenge.wtf is this
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
you have not enough built character, level some of the corresponding element character to lvl 70~!
@Chronos4452 ай бұрын
So awesome!
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@crazyanimeguycag89532 ай бұрын
Yeah bro it’s just dumb , imagine rerolling for gruper in monolith defence, it’s not even hard it’s annoying, the teams you end up with are not even real teams and yes if you don’t have enought characters your cooked ( wtf is up with must have all 4 characters) imagine if hydro was there there is like only 3 4 stars characters in that element Barbara xingqiu Candice , and most people have only xingqiu build and rest are 5 stars you not ony need decent build characters but a lot of build characters and even if I don’t have problem with that people who are not playing since beginning are cooked again , and any f2p with not so much 5 stars. In my opinion this can’t be called endgame, even abyss is less luck and more skill dependent, and that is saying something. Plus what the fu*k is with elemental rasizm like this game is about reactions what’s the point of excluding half the reactions every month. Plus the audience of this bs of a endgame content just got halfed from people who can even 36 star abyss. Some people enjoy minmaxing that’s their main way of enjoying the game it was enought so far but now if they want to clear all endgame they can’t anymore and that’s why it sucks. Plus players build mostly for meta or characters they like and for this sh*t you need to pull even more and for characters you might not even like or that are not even that good like tf is that , that’s not even endgame that’s just a greasy greedy money grab with lowering abyss reset.
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
for the tower defense, you can pick the sentinel if you have no grouper rng. Since Sentinel couldn't be group, you will need to kill 1 by 1 anyway xD
@glm28452 ай бұрын
20mins! Youll be doin a movie next time hehehe. Ill watch later...
@adamtaurus70132 ай бұрын
Look, u brought Razor back for theater, nvr fail to surprise ms U know why axe is good for him 🤔?
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
use snowtomb as shown!
@suryareddy15812 ай бұрын
Why I cannot start normal or hard mode it’s showing only 13 characters are there
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
You don't have enough character, build more character to attempt those mode. Iirc you need a total of 17 level 70 character with the corresponding element to get the entry ticket
@aley262 ай бұрын
I loove abyss but i dont rlly like this. Its so much thinking for 8 fights. In abyss you play whatever for 3 floors and then make 2 teams for 6 fights and done
@milantarika72192 ай бұрын
I mean...it's purpose IS to motivate people to build more charas
@aley262 ай бұрын
@@milantarika7219 I don't mind that at all, I have like 60 characters built, I just don't like that I have to make a new team comp for each of the 8 fights. At least give me 2 fights per team, I'm lazy i dont want to think
@naturalhorn2 ай бұрын
lmao on one of the hydro stages I had to do my c6 gaming with no pyro goblet. he was stll able to give me the star
@andidontknowyou2 ай бұрын
Don't think I really cared for this mode simply because I hate overload, lol.
@empegirl96962 ай бұрын
No.more solo hydro dragon on new game mode permanent content. 😂
@KenRurouni2 ай бұрын
Hyv: Stop right there sea dragon, no entry for now. Wait another 30 days!