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@MrsOldTractorGarage Жыл бұрын
Trenton’s ‘oh sweet Jesus’ had me laughing. So glad you guys got the opportunity to test these and give us your honest reviews.
@benjaminrobinson6383 Жыл бұрын
Just got my hands on the 12 year at MSRP, no tax. Magnificent stuff!
@antoineford11855 ай бұрын
Damn where?a just bought a 10 in Arlington for $325 w/tax🤦🏾♂️
@benjaminrobinson63834 ай бұрын
@@antoineford1185 Liquor store in Oregon. I've cultivated a relationship with the owner so I cannot divulge location, but I've pulled a 10 and 12 year from them, MSRP and no sales tax.
@motohead0773 ай бұрын
It's gotta be MA if no tax.. People think NH is no tax, but it's actually 100% tax, since the state owns & operates all the liquor stores. Private liquor sales business is illegal in New Hampshire.
@benjaminrobinson63833 ай бұрын
@@motohead077 Oregon
@conradkostelecky7935 Жыл бұрын
Fred Minnick reviewed these as well a day or so ago and while he liked the 10 year he was blown away with the 12 year. Looks like another one to add to the search for list.
@guitarswhiskeyandgolf Жыл бұрын
From what I am hearing across multiple channels the 12 year is tremendous I'm jealous
@fishesdeep Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you're on the "in" list with JD. The press office for JD should get an award! This press release was the most extensive and coordinated I've seen on the WhiskeyTube. Looks like the JD 10/12 release is an instant sellout hyper allocated unobtainable hit. I hope I get a chance at the 12 or the 10. Make sure you do a 12 yr showdown as I can only hope to get the "almost as good"
@lpagliacco Жыл бұрын
lol. the last 10yr was unobtainable like you said this yr would be yourself. Idk what makes you happy about it, but good for you if you are. I find JD's marketing despicable--marketing so hard to get all the Bourbon-tubers to hype it up when it's going to be super limited, with flippers with contacts flipping them as per usual.
@dreamshakenbake7432 Жыл бұрын
Another great word similar to dryness is astringency which in whiskey comes from the tannins of the oak barrels!
@lezlielockett3461 Жыл бұрын
You had me at "Sweet Jesus" can't wait to try the 12 year!!! 🥃😋
@lghbtsl Жыл бұрын
Found one shop with both in stock, but they were $300/$400 respectfully. I was pleasantly surprised to see them on the shelf, but it was an easy hard pass on the price for me.😊
@camtabor4344 Жыл бұрын
The charcoal filter does not disqualify it from being a bourbon. Jack Daniels master distiller said so.
@briannevin7635 Жыл бұрын
As a Brit in the US I’ve loved getting to know the whiskey/bourbon scene. Love watching your stuff. But find it really frustrating when I get excited about products like this only to figure out I’ll never see one on the shelf or if I do it will be multiples of recommended retail price. But I live in hope!
@BB-sc1jv Жыл бұрын
A good friend tells me he enjoys the chase for good bourbon as much as the flavors. 🥃
@BigDieselMan10010 ай бұрын
In New Orleans Area, both are not available, at 700ML they have to get the Louisiana legislature has to approve the tax stamp for 700 ML bottles. Until then not available except by driving to Miss. or stay home and drink the 1 Liter Bonded., Enjoyed your review. Hooah!
@primaltone Жыл бұрын
Hope I can find one of these, but my assertion based on recent learning: Tennessee Whiskey is Bourbon. The Lincoln Count process does not affect it. Other popular bourbons are charcoal filtered, double barreled, sometime in non-bourbon casks, and still called bourbon. I used to think differently, but I consider myself enlightened now, even though I'm sure some will disagree.
@mikejustmike2557 Жыл бұрын
2:40 thank you for bringing up that JD is not a bourbon. Lol
@erere244 Жыл бұрын
Very nicely balanced show. Excellent as always . Would love to try 12 years based on your feedback. Keep the good stuff coming guys . Appreciate your honest opinions.
@Singlebarrel2323 Жыл бұрын
Got lucky enough to grab the last bottle of 12 yr at Costco today. I think it was $84, but I know it was $92 out the door. I almost didn’t go into the liquor part of Costco before shopping but I’m glad I did.
@whiskeywhiskybourbon180910 ай бұрын
AT A COSTCO??!?!? 😮
@curtcogley3389 Жыл бұрын
I just recently got a 12 yr old and absolutely love it, best JD I've ever had!! $85 retail
@Edward-kh2kh Жыл бұрын
I work at a liquor store in New Orleans. Over the Christmas holiday we got in 1 bottle of Jack Daniel's 10 year. I was excited to see it. But once the owner put it in the system. Priced it for $180. My mouth hit the floor in shock. Way over priced. Had it been $80 that bottle would be sitting in my collection. But as you guys know sometimes that's how it goes. Kurt and Trenton you both are rite. As a consumer it would be nice to see these bottles as well as other allocated bourbon and whiskeys prices lowered. I still buy bottles from my store and the owner hooks me up, but still fun to shop at other stores in my area and see what they have. We finally got in the Penelope Architect series. Which has been my new daily pour. Bought one bottle, took it home and had one pour. Loved it so much went back and bought 3 more just to have in stock. Anywho guys I love the channel and the content is amazing. Keep up the great reviews. Also in addition we have local bourbons made here I would love to send yall and see your responses. Lmk thanks guys!!!!!!
@paulhendershot111 Жыл бұрын
The 12 year really sounds good. Would love to find a bottle of it. Would also be happy to find a bottle of the 10 year. Thanks for highlighting these for us and I'll be sure to keep an eye out for them here in Ohio.
@reillymealer3196 Жыл бұрын
The maple is the sugar maple charcoal...with the higher proof Jack's it's more potent to the nose and palette than the regular black label
@robertbarrone3219 Жыл бұрын
Not to get into an argument, BUT with JD, I go with what they call themselves... a Tennessee Whiskey, with that said, they are putting out worthy, interesting releases lately!
@davevogelsang6791 Жыл бұрын
I hope the general public is able to find and buy these.
@wprice7649 Жыл бұрын
The JD 10 is allocated in Alabama (or marked up by x3 at some private liquor stores), so I bet the 12 will be even harder to obtain. Still dying to try the 10! The JD BIB is very decent, and I’m hoping to nab a bottle of the single barrel barrel proof soon. Thanks guys.
@stanjohnston4737 Жыл бұрын
The JDBPSB has hit the shelves again around Mobile. Picked up three ABC store picks that are fantastic.
@crivitzguy5017 Жыл бұрын
Minnick says 80% corn on mash bill and retail is $80 on the 12yr and $70 on the 10yr. Just sayin'. Thanks fellas, great show as always!
@DaveNorton-yi5ix Жыл бұрын
Jack Daniels Bonded is on my regular rotation ... the first time I opened one, I laughed, because I caught what Trenton calls "banana runts" wafting up out of the neck. The banana notes stay there all the way through each bottle.
@pirrgang Жыл бұрын
I just opened a bonded I picked up and all I got was peanut.
@doubleg2475 Жыл бұрын
Just wanting to mention that the charcoal mellowing process doesn’t add any flavor or scent. The charcoal is used as a filter to remove more harsh tastes for a more smooth taste.
@gregtucker4429 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. A lot of water filters are charcoal filters too. Brita filters have carbon in them. You can't taste it or smell it at all because charcoal only removes flavor. Sorry, but hearing you talk about the "charcoal flavor" "picking up that charcoal on the nose" really hurts your credibility to me.
@plekguy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another unbiased video of the pleasure of a GOOD liquor. One of the best "little pleasures" in life is a good cigar and a great bourbon or scotch. Cheers!
@bmc2567 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review! I cut my whiskey teeth on Jack and cokes. I’ve sent gravitated more to Kentucky bourbons, but occasionally will do a jack single barrel just to wax nostalgia. I will definitely keep my eyes out for both of these to see how they fare. Thanks again!
@ebunch1911 Жыл бұрын
We here in Tennessee have been saying for years this is Bourbon. Well with that being said thanks guys for doing this on your channel.Either way this will hit the market and will be jacked up on price immediately. Thanks again for your guys hard work. And yes come to Nashville. I could show you guys an awesome time. #Cheers
@mikepetrella4009 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always boys! The JD 10 year batch 1 is 97 proof…and the mash bill for the new 12 year is 80% corn, 12% rye and 8% malted barley. Looking forward to trying these 2 at some point. Cheers!
@savage-skull Жыл бұрын
The mash bill for the 10 is also 80% corn, 12% rye and 8% barley . Want to know why? Because it's the Jack Daniels mash bill, as in: the same mash bill for all Jack bourbon products. Why these clowns are acting like it's only the 10yr is beyond me. It's amateur hour over here.
@MrMetz202 Жыл бұрын
@@savage-skull why watch their videos if you’re such the connoisseur that their videos are just so far beneath you that it offends your expertise. Don’t act like a craft beer douche
@LeatherDaddy97 Жыл бұрын
Its actually 12% barley and 8% rye
@robertjason6885 Жыл бұрын
@@savage-skullInsults are the weapons of the illiterate.
@jbensz Жыл бұрын
Just picked one up in chesterton! I would like to save it being batch one, and not open it till I get another! That's now really hard to do after watching this! nice fellas good reveiw.
@slbdrinks Жыл бұрын
Chesterton? Pretty close to me!
@elijahmauk-olson3646 Жыл бұрын
Y’all need to try the Jack Daniels Bottled in Bond, it’s a really good whiskey.
@mrbreck1 Жыл бұрын
Jd 12 year is on the allocated list for my state. We have a bourbon lottery where you get tickets to get a place in line then you get a shot at what is on the shelf for that hours drawing. They have 700ml jack daniels 12 year listed at 84.99. Unfortunately i will probably never get to try it because i will be buying something else if i am fortunate enough to win a ticket to buy a bottle. Batch 2 ten year is 74.99 for a 700ml bottle.
@freddieslaughter1107 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I also wish retailers would be more fair with their pricing, such as the Jack Daniels Single Malt for $400.00 is way too much.
@Robert.Sheard Жыл бұрын
The price list in NC is $75 for the 10yo and $85 for the 12yo (700 ml). I don't know if they're actually on the shelves here, but at least they're on the approved price list here. And Kurt's not wrong. Tennessee Whiskey IS technically and legally bourbon. They just have the option to market it as either Bourbon or Tennessee Whiskey. There are plenty of examples of Bourbons that also charcoal mellow (Ezra Brooks, for example).
@slbdrinks Жыл бұрын
I agree with the bourbon title however I refuse to go toe to toe with someone to argue that point. IMO there are issues worth fighting for and this just isn’t one of them for me lol.
@Robert.Sheard Жыл бұрын
@@slbdrinks Don't blame you one bit. Social media can turn ugly so quickly. I think that's why your channel has grown so fast. Everyone loves your positivity.
@FakingANerve Жыл бұрын
@@slbdrinks 100% agreed. It might just be the dumbest hill to die on, so to speak. 😄 Cheers!
@williamsix1838 Жыл бұрын
I mean some people still think the earth is flat too, and I would not argue with those people either. 🤣
@beancounter2185 Жыл бұрын
Come on guys, They reduced the quantity to 700 to reduce the unit cost and increase the margin. That's what corporations do.
@JC-77 Жыл бұрын
I've never been a big fan of Jack Daniels...basically a Jack and Coke is all I could stand back in the day and when I quit drinking Coke 15 years ago that's probably the last time I had JD as well. Anyway, thanks to your review, I am looking forward to getting my hands on some of this 12 year...if it is even going to be possible.
@jimlee509 Жыл бұрын
If both of you ever get a chance , you should go to Jack Daniels and take the tour. I think you would enjoy it. My wife and I took the tour and it was great! The smell of all that alcohol leaves you feeling pretty good.
@mikehintenach2503 Жыл бұрын
The 80/12/8 is the standard JD mashbill.
@Bushy556 Жыл бұрын
The JD BiB is really good. I have one of their single barrel barrel select at like 124 proof and it’s excellent as well. I don’t care for their entry level stuff but their higher tier ones a worth getting.
@austinbailey6740 Жыл бұрын
Loved watching this video and Matt’s at ADHD Whiskey back to back. Lots of the same experiences. Hope to get my hands on a bottle! Awesome video!
@Mitchn92 Жыл бұрын
Was able to pick up a bottle of 12yr yesterday for retail. Very excited to have the bottle but I’m very hesitant to open it
@waynedull4639 Жыл бұрын
Omg that sweet Jesus part has me dying. Love watching you guys
@sistoav3844 Жыл бұрын
Snagged 1 bottle of the 10 year and 2 of the 12 year. Never thought I’d get either.
@RockulaRandy Жыл бұрын
I passed on our JD barrel pick, but I am REALLY looking forward to trying both of these!
@jakewarzyniak5470 Жыл бұрын
I picked Jack 10 over Rock Hill Farms in a blind flight in 2021. I thought they were messing with me. It was solid.
@LEMONedOblaat Жыл бұрын
Love your videos as always but man at this point I almost don't even care about price as long as it's not ridiculous. Although I am much more of a Scotch guy I hunted hell and high water for the JD Single Malt here in MI and nothing. I'm just hoping to be able to find these releases because that 12 year is sounding mighty fine. Keep up the great work!
@tylerwilliams4165 Жыл бұрын
The “Tennessee whiskey is/is not bourbon debate” has been put to bed. The JD master distiller says JD is bourbon. They call it Tennessee whiskey for marketing purposes.
@clingman71 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Charcoal filtering subtracts, it doesn’t add anything, so it still meets all bourbon requirements. There are also some Ky bourbons that are charcoal filtered. 100% marketing.
@shpfro Жыл бұрын
He ruined the video for me when he said that. I didn't even finish the video.
@RichardPalmbergDDS Жыл бұрын
@@shpfro lol really?
@shpfro Жыл бұрын
@@RichardPalmbergDDS yea, these guys are usually pretty good but that's such an uneducated statement.
@mcwhiskey3005 Жыл бұрын
@@shpfro Wow, Bourbon god in our midst everyone…guess you should start a channel and have 100k+ subscribers…
@NintendoEmo Жыл бұрын
I was able to pick up the 10 year yesterday at Total Wine here in Texas. They were all out of the 12 year unfortunately. Still on the hunt for the 12 year.
@EverydayDrinker Жыл бұрын
Stoked to hopefully get my hands on these! Great show boys!
@beaudwayful Жыл бұрын
I've never had any JD that I thought was worth the price. I'd try these if I ever see them in PA....
@OldFashionedWays Жыл бұрын
Thanks for review. Now I am going to hunt these bottles. Want to try them. Cheers.
@tao265 Жыл бұрын
Kurt - have you tried the JD Triple Mash? It’s outstanding and got very high reviews from Fred. I think you’d like it!
@glenhalstead2301 Жыл бұрын
I like the Riple Mash over the Bottled In Bond. Need to pick up another bottle soon!
@mikestewart3670 Жыл бұрын
Great show gents! I look forward to trying at least the 12 should it hit the shelves here in NC. Have a good one guys!
@Robert.Sheard Жыл бұрын
Hi Mike. I noticed it's on the official NC price list, so maybe we'll get it here.
@alandiaz1041 Жыл бұрын
I tend to agree with Kurt regarding proof preferences. I do enjoy the 120+ proof bourbon. It’s terrific. That said, I drink the 100 to 110 proof bourbon more frequently than the cask strengths. I get the whole “proof hound” thing. It’s just not important to me. I can get just as much flavor and complexity from a good 100 to 110 proof bourbon as I can the heavier hitters. Cask strength does not automatically equate to a tasty bourbon. Same thing with high price points. I don’t reach for a
@wes6336 Жыл бұрын
Gong to Tennessee this week. Will definitely keep my eyes open for this
@thecarpetcleaners15636 ай бұрын
I paid $110 for the 12 year. Omg I love it.
@user-nr8xq6fe1p Жыл бұрын
I really want that 12. Probably going to be a tough hunt
@davidcolgan3268 Жыл бұрын
I hope one or both will make it to Iowa. Can’t find the Cask Strength.
@theduckman8814 Жыл бұрын
I get strong banana bread flavor on Jack products. Especially the bonded.
@donaltemus3565 Жыл бұрын
Finally jack releasing some new juice! Really excited to try these
@geewyllikers Жыл бұрын
WOW, I was legitimately nervous for you guys on this one. I was afraid out of courtesy for the producer you'd step on a landmine and allow questions about integrity in your reviews. Not even close. Clearly the reason you deserve 2,500 views in the first 2 hours on a Wednesday morning. JD folks know.
@ronbritner3236 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I was just at the distillery yesterday. Love the Frank Sinatra and barrel proof.
@briandamon9286 Жыл бұрын
Definitely glad you guys did this review. However no mention of pappy 12, did that hit the cutting room floor?😅
@RichardPalmbergDDS Жыл бұрын
Playing the KZbin algorithm lol
@soupybread3912 Жыл бұрын
So, the original 10 year came out two years ago…stands to reason the 12 year is just an aged two more year version of that.
@eestwood11 ай бұрын
I may have purchased a case... Or 2 recently of the 12
@kyleslusher4642 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if this is true but the rumor is that the 10 year is gonna be $60-$70 and the 12 year is gonna be in the $80 price range which isn’t unheard of for higher aged whisky. Cheers gents. Nice to have a bourbon reviewer in NWI.
@markwoerner4189 Жыл бұрын
All the JD Single barrels including the Rye are excellent.
@chad3625 Жыл бұрын
No matter the JD, I always get a banana runts!! But i like that with Jack! Im hoping to see this in Eastern Iowa!!
@terrell48 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to try this 12 year
@mackal Жыл бұрын
80-8-12 is the standard JD mash bill. I don't think they use anything else for their Tennessee Whiskey. (Rye and American Single Malt obviously are different) BT mash #1 should be very similar as well. Chuck Cowdery says they're "most likely" using 8% rye (all that has been said officially is
@FakingANerve Жыл бұрын
What's the historical tie between Dickel and BT #1?
@mackal Жыл бұрын
@@FakingANerve Schenley Industries owned what is know Buffalo Trace and a bunch of other distilleries/brands (they owned George Dickel and Cascade Hallow brands, the distillery was demolished) during/after Prohibition. They sourced the 84-8-8 mashbill from some old George Dickel employees and started using it at their KY distilleries. They eventually rebuilt the Cascade Hallow Distillery and started making George Dickel there using the 84-8-8 mashbill, which is disclosed now. So likely that's what BT #1 is since it's
@FakingANerve Жыл бұрын
@@mackal Thanks!! Cheers.
@FakingANerve Жыл бұрын
@@mackal I love how the same mash bill can result in two completely disparate flavor profiles thanks to oak sourcing, char, rickhouse design, location, etc. Buffalo Trace (and even Benchmark 8) are about as similar to my palate as orange juice and peppermint toothpaste. I always find this stuff fascinating. 🥃
@TLS200510 ай бұрын
jack daniels bnb is one of the most flavorable bnbs that i have ever drank
@arthurjenkins3668 Жыл бұрын
Great review as always, I'm going to have to get these 2 bottles ty.
@charliemaddox3226 Жыл бұрын
Do you have Jack Daniels BnB in your area? I believe that's in their core lineup now and is of course 100 Proof.
@nickp5511 Жыл бұрын
Nice review! I watched four videos yesterday on these two and everyone likes them both but the 12 yr sounds better to me. Probably won’t get it or see it:(
@johnconley9796 Жыл бұрын
Guys, try the Jack Daniel's Bonded. 100 proof, 1 liter bottle. This may just make you a JD fan.
@leeknowlton7303 Жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see if this hits Michigan or not. Their Bonded and Triple Mash were released here in liter size bottles because of the laws here. 700ml not allowed.
@glenhalstead2301 Жыл бұрын
You guys should do a blind tasting between the JD 12 Year Old and Old Forestor 1920. Same parent company and around the same proof.
@corbin8930 Жыл бұрын
Scored 2 bottles today! Should have bought a lotto ticket
@jacknormus4495 Жыл бұрын
Something that I’ll never get a bottle of to taste and enjoy.
@WhiskyForBeginners Жыл бұрын
I'll probably never see these, and if I do they'll be way outside my budget. But I'm glad to know that there's more to Jack Daniel's than the Old No. 7, which I don't propose to ever drink again. One of these days I'll try some of their better stuff that's within my reach. And on the bourbon question... My PERSONAL view, which is just my OPINION, is that Tennessee whiskey is a variety of bourbon, just as a wheated bourbon is a variety of bourbon, but isn't a typical bourbon. I've formed this view because a) Tennessee whiskey follows every requirement of bourbon, adding just the one step, b) not all Tennessee whiskey uses the Lincoln County process, and c) some bourbon from outside Tennessee does filter through charcoal. But since this is just my opinion, anyone and everyone is free to differ. 🥃🙂
@tokudad Жыл бұрын
I can’t find these anywhere locally for less than $200 (10 year) and $400 (12 year).
@slbdrinks Жыл бұрын
Wow
@G_P_G Жыл бұрын
Hope I can get this, I'm with you guys, I love JDSBBP but they other staples don't do much for me. I want to like the JDSB at the lower proof but it just seems to fall flat when I have the BP right next to it. I missed it, but curious if the 12 year had a nice oil/viscosity feel to it. It's typically why i prefer higher proofs or non-chill filters for that feeling. I have only come across 1910 and widow jane that were 90 proof with a nice oily texture.
@m73jaredII Жыл бұрын
Only time I’ve ever seen this it was sitting on the shelf for around 400+
@mohandasmartin4253 Жыл бұрын
Good show. I'm going to give up on the Johnnie Walker review....lol
@markdunn1931 Жыл бұрын
Russell's red label single barrel 110 proof is very good , thought's ? Cheers
@billhoney9110 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you guys to compare jack daniels 12 year to redbreast 12.
@joenovak6393 Жыл бұрын
From Breaking Bourbon: MSRP: $80 (2023), Mashbill: 80% Corn, 12% Rye, 8% Malted Barley, Proof: 107. An estimated 18,000 bottles will be available for this release.
@LeatherDaddy97 Жыл бұрын
12% barley and 8% rye
@sacstatesfinest Жыл бұрын
Great review, when will the 12 be available to the public?
@MarkO-ni3qc Жыл бұрын
I was sipping on a JDSB BP(129.5) over ice and caught all the notes you were describing on these two bottles. Why should I go out and purchase one, or what makes these bottles so special? Thoughts? The price is similar. I love your channel BTW and oh, your audio is fine. Trust me, I work in TV.
@nickp5511 Жыл бұрын
Leave the 10 year 97 proof in the barrel for two more years and give us more of the 12yr 107 proof! It’s already unobtainable:( great reviews so it will be bought up for the secondary market.
@MrDjcomeback Жыл бұрын
Prices are through the roof I would let this cool down saw the 12 year at one site now for $700 LOL 😂 Good luck stick with Rare Breed WT, WT 101, Four Roses Small batch, Small Batch Select, Even Buffalo trace or Eagle 10 but they are gonna boost this price to the sky.
@Nuck82 Жыл бұрын
I wish all distillers would put out small taster's like that normally to the public to buy. I'd pay $8-12 for a taster of a $70+ bottles to see if they are worth it.
@LeatherDaddy97 Жыл бұрын
Problem with that is, as long as its limited and has secondary value, they dont need you to think its worth it. They just need whoevers gunning for it to.
@MSmith-sd9ci Жыл бұрын
Welp any chance of getting this whiskey went out the window damn Whiskey tube saying it's better than pappy
@Vortex1988 Жыл бұрын
It's probably the same mash bill as every other Jack Daniels lol
@eteocles4452 Жыл бұрын
80% Corn, 12% Malted Barley and 8% Rye is the standard Jack Daniels mash bill.
@yourdrinkingbuddy Жыл бұрын
I hope I get to try these!!! 🤞 Cheers buddies!
@davidteller7681 Жыл бұрын
I've already seen the 12yr online for $499(!). I want one, but not that bad!
@FakingANerve Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this trend is ridiculous. I'm not taking part in that silliness even if I have money burning a hole in my pocket.
@davidteller7681 Жыл бұрын
Same place has raised it to $699 😂
@tontobb8956 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much all bottles in Australia are now 700ml Old days. They were 750ml. FYI
@anthonytomasso5973 Жыл бұрын
Oak and alcohol works well together!
@GOTAisMe Жыл бұрын
The price for this is going to be very high. For the 12 year they are saying 18,000 bottles. That 360 per state and that's only if they all end up domestic. This is going to be highly allocated and we all know what that means. In my area the JD Bonded is $50 and MSRP for that is $30. I can only imagine what this will be