New Kraton EXB from box to bash to broken!

[@stuckintrees4796]

In my experience, if you pull out the top pillow ball and remove the silver washer from behind it, put it back in on the lower control arm remove the ridge spacers and put it back together and it moves the axle in and they won’t come out and break the cuphaven’t had an issue since

[@Havingoneofthosedays-]

Agreed. Pull those anodized parts off the end of arms and spacers. Axles and drive cup will live forever.. 👍

[@StraitJacketRC]

The axle didn't pop out though like the older version. The longer cups don't allow it to pop out, but it doesn't like running the axle on the vary edge of the cup like that vary well. I've got around 9 or 10 6s Arrma and have only had a few have the dreadded axle issue, thank my lucky stars. But on the ones I did the spacers didn't do it. Neither did droop screw adjustment because it's the shocks having too much up travel thats what allows the axle to pop out. Putting a .25' piece of nitro fuel line on the shock shafts acted as a bump stop and was the only thing that fixed it for me. My Outcast XL build was the worst with it, and now as you can see in the vids it can take a beating now.

[@StraitJacketRC]

That didn't solve it on my prior 6s trucks that had the issue. They kept popping out. These new cups are longer the axle doesn't pop out it just rides the vary edge until it breaks. These snow ramps are hard on them when hitting them at speed they compress quite a bit, summer they do a lot better.

[@armandopace6113]

It's happening way to much. Me myself I've never broken a drive cup. If the metal is to hard they will break like glass. Great video mate and there's no substitute for a arrma kraton 6s 🤭🤪🤣🤣🤣

[@simonsmith2969]

You,re nuts. Busted truck in one go. Great job.

[@StraitJacketRC]

lol thanks 😛 I like to sus out the weakness early on 😆 jk I fixed it and took it right back to the jump that broke it the next day and boosted even bigger haha the soft ramps are brutal on the fronts. Once it hardens up it’s not such an issue.

[@victorevan7893]

Awesome video. Sweet ride can't believe dog bone bent, but easy fix .they might of made tolerance to tight on drive cup, last model dog bones popped out.

[@StraitJacketRC]

Eh, out of the 9 or so 6s Arrma I have I've only had a few issues with the axle popping out. The bending of the axles seems more common, but hard to say its still early on and the snow jumps can do a number on the transition sometimes.

[@victorevan7893]

My buddies popped out, and my talion did as well. The new ones supposedly fix those issues, but I'm wondering if it don't have enough play but sweet ride tho.

[@AnthonyBencomo]

@straitjacket, you mentioned getting m2 replacements. The cups, won’t they be shorter than Arrma new longer cups? So you’ll get the dog bones popping out like they were in the last version of the Kraton. And then M2’s dog bone is .5 mm shorter than stock which will exacerbate the popping out issue. Did you say the fuel line tubing prevents the breaking of the cups? It wouldn’t allow the arm to travel as much reducing the pressure on the cup right?

[@StraitJacketRC]

Yes, it’s rtr on one side and M2C on the other. It’s a little short, but honestly I don’t think the new cups work to be honest. In the videos you can hear the crunching sounds, that’s the dog bone outside the cup trying to get back inside as it’s ramping up he jump. Before the axle would just fall out. Now it grinds around until it snaps a side of the cup off. Plus when it’s trying to get back in the cup it seems to bend it. I’m still running stock axles. I’ve got a rather large stockpile of parts so I just keep working with what I have on hand for now.

[@AnthonyBencomo]

@@StraitJacketRC ok that sounds about right. My cup broke and I saw chipping on the ends of the other cup. Could prove your theory of it coming out and then going back in correct. And yes, my dog bone bent as well. So great, nitro tubing it is! I’m new at the hobby so I don’t really know where to place the tubing on the shock. Be really grand of you to upload a video!

[@StraitJacketRC]

Yea, I can bust one out there are a bunch of these little tricks I want to do videos on, I’m going to fire up a vlog channel just kinda waiting for the season to kick off. Pretty slow until the dirt comes back lol

[@Shadows-RC]

👍🏻 Thumbs up. Good content. Sorry about the breakage. Those long arms and driveshafts break so much easier, especially in the cold. That's why I went with the thicker M2C ones for my V5 K6. It was a necessity with the added weight and 8s. I'm really into the short arm 6s ARRMA's lately. I've learned that less weight and shorter arms/driveshafts are more feasible with the 1/8th platform if you stay with stock stuff. M2C doesn't make the upgrade driveshafts for the Mojave and Typhon for a reason. They don't bend near as easily. I built a K6/Mojave hybrid to get around the driveshaft issue. The wide arms are overrated imo. Wish they'd bring the 6s Senton back. Had the shortest arms. Less weight.

[@StraitJacketRC]

Dude I'm with you on all that! I keep as light as possible and I had 2 Outcast EXB 6s that I took apart to do shorter arm builds with. One has truggified Typhon arms, one has Mojave arms, and I have an OG 6s Senton I upgraded with EXB and TLR parts. The diff and arm issue I'm having is sort of exacerbated by the snow ramps. the arms and shocks ect let stuff travel and bend due to the high speed and squishy ramp. The only issue w/ the shorter arms is they don't handle the rough terrain as good. Usually I'm running my XLWB stuff and they really benefit from the longer arms. I want to build a XLWB with shorter arms soon that sounds fun!

[@itzjoeylo4501]

You are more likely to break stuff at below 60deg Fahrenheit, extremely more likely below freezing. You got the same habits as I do. Bash, Fix, Upgrade, Wrench, Repeat 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@StraitJacketRC]

Yea, plastics don’t like the cold for sure. The metal doesn’t care at these temps though. As long as I land on all 4 or in powder I rarely break. I have a different style of bashing for winter, and as long as I stay above 20f I don’t break unnecessarily. The time prior I took the big rock out it was pretty cold so it was probably broke from then honestly. An yep, I fixed it and went back the next day and got redemption! Same jump but bigger haha bash on bro! 🚀🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@gonzodetroitify]

Hey G I think the 1st 3rd and 4th jumps did that but I think really the 1st head on jump You’ll hear the kratons diffs not happy about the transition But the 2nd jump was fabuloUS and🤬 Smmmmmmmoth too👊🏿🤤🤤😎 Thanks for sharing straight jacket 🧥 💎💥💥🎬

[@StraitJacketRC]

Yea, it’s a problem Ive dealt with in the winter in previous years. The snow was super soft, and the arms are able to move way too far up. Like I’ve done on previous 6s Arrma I used my fix method, and I just put out another video going back to that big last jump that finally broke the cup. No more crunch, and some nice sends! Thanks for checking us out man! 💯😛🚀

[@UpInStokeOW]

Cool car! That crunchy sound 🥴

[@StraitJacketRC]

Thanks ya it was painful to listen to, and by the end I almost expected it honestly

[@SkunkCity_RC]

ok so outta the 2 most recent rigs- the 4s outcast and this beast which overall would you recommend?

[@StraitJacketRC]

Eh, I can say one or the other but for it to mean anything to YOU I'd need to know lots of info to best suggest. Type of terrain, style of running, room to run, what features etc. The smaller and lighter stuff is better suited for smaller areas and smoother surfaces. I run a lot at the Motocross track and the ruts and rocks are too big for anything 4s. Outcast is going to shine at backyard ramps, skate parks and such. The Kraton likes more room, and can be sent way harder. The new Big Rock is looking to be a savage as well, I've only had it out a few times but it's enough like the Fireteam to know I'll love it just as I do my Fireteam!

[@wakkasign1293]

I took out my same rig last night in -15 f. It did a little better than your until my 10 year old drove it into the light post in the parking lot. Got parts on order already …

[@StraitJacketRC]

Damn 🫣 bummer man! That’s super cold I don’t go if it’s below 20 that’s my cut off. I worked in the arctic for 10 years I’m tired of freezing! 🧊

[@MrMan-ol4ic]

I read your description, that's why i dont order certain things or products online! It takes forever, or you get screwed over, etc! But awesome, Rig, though.

[@StraitJacketRC]

Yea they have changed a lot lately, did some system work last summer and have had issues ever since. An thanks! she's a fun truck.

[@bigmanrctoys8484]

Rc plastic parts is brittle in cold weather. Wait for spring or summer so your not wasting your money on parts.

[@StraitJacketRC]

I couldn’t think of waiting that long. I’m pretty well versed in the winter bash, some breakage is acceptable and these rigs I’ve been running are new models or updated w/ new parts so I gotta run and test em. Thanks for checking out my vid 🤘🏼🚀🔥

[@AnthonyBencomo]

To the folks talking about the cold causing this.. I live in AZ, drove my Kraton 6s EXB V2 in 73 degrees weather and my drive cup broken exactly like this. Brand new, day one and I broke it 2 hours into driving it.

[@StraitJacketRC]

Yea, it’s most def not a new thing or a temp. issue. I’ve been battling it for a few years. The tubing used to work, but these new shocks are a different animal. They are just so plush that when you g out on the jump it compresses too much. I’m betting when yours broke it was in a soft sandy type of terrain? That’s where mine does it in the summers…

[@AnthonyBencomo]

@@StraitJacketRC harder dirt, I launched it off of a fence trying to backflip. So the nitro tubing won’t work on the new Kraton.. jeez. Gonna keep breaking these then? I heard the RPM arms are shorter. Could help with the popping out.

[@StraitJacketRC]

Yea I looks like this right now doesn’t like the tubing trick as much. But, it took a bit for it to pop out so there’s that I guess lol. One option is to go back to the reg cups and pop them back in here and there when and if they come free. Another option is the rpm arms, some people have good luck with this. Then there is the other mod my buddy swears on, where you shave the outer end of the arm off, to mimic the shorter rpm arm. Like 2mm or so I couldn’t say as I’ve not done it. I can find out though. Safe a few bucks plus some don’t care for the excessive flex the rpm offer. We can get it dialed in, some times newish rigs take a lil test and tune to your piticular style and liking.

[@mjones2305]

Sweet snow ramp! Kind of surprised how easily the truck broke. I know plastic parts become brittle in the cold, but for a metal part to fail like that on a relatively soft landing makes me question Arrma quality. 🤔

[@StraitJacketRC]

Thanks that second day ramp was looking so prime! Ya, it deff was from the ramp takeoff, not the landing. when you first hit the transition the shocks compress and the axles go outward. Norm with dirt or wood ramps its no biggie but the snow allows the shocks to compress farther due to the soft snow letting the chassis "dig in" as it compresses. it's not normal seeing that much compression so norm it wouldn't want to pop out so much. I've got many Arrma and have lots of vids of me sending them orbital usually all stock or minor upgrades so I deff wouldn't worry about Arrma quality.

[@rudebuddha4895]

Cold brittle steel and plastic? What could possibly go wrong?

[@StraitJacketRC]

lol the dog bone popped out, what does that have to do with the cold? This is a common problem, someone else in the comments mentioned it and he’s in the Southwest. Besides, I wasn’t wearing gloves and if I can hang the damn car better! 😛🤘🏼🤘🏼🚀🔥 bash on!

[@Heizekel77]

Hahaha, cool vid dude! :) :)

[@StraitJacketRC]

Thanks! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🚀 🫣 she’s a fun rig for sure! Thanks for stopping by! 🔥

[@doug42780]

Cold don't help at all

[@StraitJacketRC]

Ya, but I figure if I’m gloveless it shouldn’t affect it that much. The day it broke it was 30*f out that’s not bad at all for a metal diff cup.

[@SLeini]

nice 1:1 car

[@StraitJacketRC]

Thanks! Love/hate relationship she needs a v8 something fierce.

[@KkommA88]

And another one doing stupid things and winning stupid prizes ;) Glad you people keep supporting ArrmA by breaking their stuff!

[@StraitJacketRC]

Cool I’m glad you’re glad. Bashing isn’t for everybody, good luck with brand x 😆

[@KkommA88]

@@StraitJacketRC No, i'm totally staying with ArrmA, i just (personally!) believe y'all are putting way too much pressure on these RCs and ArrmA certainly is glad with that. For me, i have a rule: if it breaks, i did something wrong. Obviously some people do think differently ;) Either way: RC & ArrmA is great, we can certainly agree on that! XD

[@simonsmith2969]

Dont ever ask to borrow my truck.

[@StraitJacketRC]

😆🤷🏼‍♂️ lol I wasn’t even hard on it 🤔

[@RazerCreditRazercredit]

1st I wanna say, ANY RC had weak points, ANY! Now that said, like many the Cold and plastic never play well. On 2nd note high temps and Motors never play well either, so, pick your battle on that. I feel Every brand will require upgrades, or replacement parts, just is what it is being honest. No-One ever said RC was a cheap hobby. Upgrades will depend on how you use your car. Harder Play = More parts, especially in the durability dept. I feel the Electronics on todays newer RCs are pretty nice, except servos, they always suck imo. In winter I focus on buying uogrades, and play during spring mostly, and Fall. Summer only play in late evenings, when not so brutally hot myself.

[@RickyD1968]

TO Cold for plastic RC'S !!! That is why it broke !!!

[@StraitJacketRC]

LOL this is the most metal rig you can get RTR and it was the diff cup that broke how is that from cold, it was like 32 out the second day.