New Lawsuit Sheds Horrifying Details On Vince McMahon Allegations

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[@atticus8659]

Sadly, none of this surprises me.

[@SamSamSamJ]

Yeah, really. You knew Vince was a weirdo, and an old creepy freak.

[@colinbraddock7185]

Exactly what I said to my friend about it earlier.

[@hazard_us132]

Not even the possibility that Brock is involved?

[@badshah_BC]

@@hazard_us132 I'm not surprised. I remember watching Marlena/Terri Runnels shoot interview and I can't remember the entire story but it revolved around Brock exposing himself to Marlena and Dustin telling her to no-sell it.

[@atticus8659]

@@hazard_us132 Not after hearing about him harassing Terri Runnels.

[@reymondlopez7468]

Final nail in the coffin for Vince in WWE. I have a feeling he knew this was coming and that’s why he sold 80% of his endeavor shares.

[@omarscarborough4274]

30%.

[@mikefeltner4216]

Remember Ashley Massaro!!!

[@manulj1455]

I do not know much about her, is she a victim of Vince

[@mikefeltner4216]

@@manulj1455 Look her up

[@starrsmith3810]

@@manulj1455she was a wrestler with WWE. Had a pretty cool look and theme song. But anyway, she was SA’ed in Kuwait by a solider and Vince told her to keep quiet to avoid ruining WWE’s relationship with the military. She’s no longer here unfortunately.

[@manulj1455]

@@starrsmith3810 I knew her, but didn't knew about this Military incident. RIP

[@mr.ilikespam6081]

and tom cole and other while not a thing Vince did(and linda) but more of thing he didnt and that was not doing anything when wwe employee Mel phillips who was accused of molesting multiple "ring boys"

[@thormarquez16]

Seeing the lawsuit made my jaw drop. So disgusted and disappointed. Hope justice is prevails.

[@alesitercrimson24]

Its civil court. She didnt get all the payments from the NDA thats why this is happening

[@Smiley-57]

You’re just a fool that reads the HEADLINE wake up.

[@Smiley-57]

@@alesitercrimson24it’s disappointing how clueless people are. They read the Headline and believe it BLINDLY. (We know who they voted for LOL)

[@WillyKillya]

​@@Smiley-57are you insane? Do you consider it possible that she want to put this behind her anyway possible and just took the money, then when it stopped being paid she thought again about all the horrible things that happened and decided to go full force? And if he didn't do anything, why did he pay in the first place?

[@J_Tevo]

After reading all 67 pages, it's absolutely sickening, with each page it only becomes more disgusting and saddening. Also, I can't even truly comprehend that not only Vince, but other's were fully involved. This will fundamentally change the company forever, and Vince has to go immediately.

[@lordhawkeye]

​@@user-on9ie2lm1y Nobody asked you 🤫

[@SomeoneInTheInternet-mk6ku]

​@user-on9ie2lm1y of course many people with power do messed up things. But because they do it, we shouldn't ignore this

[@tori8532]

@@user-on9ie2lm1ydesensitized to sexual violence against women.. maybe you need to grow up.

[@KingStephKillinIt]

Howndoni get that

[@scotthardie5141]

​@@user-on9ie2lm1yCrimes stop being crimes when you're not the only person to ever have committed them?

[@jonathanschmeh5709]

I think one interesting fact i just learned (from Steve & Larson), is that Vince is no longer represented by Jerry McDevitt. He was a legal superstar and very good at protecting Vince in court.

[@joemckim1183]

I think McDevitt retired.

[@rootpower8664]

@@joemckim1183 Correct.

[@robbymarton74]

Ya he retired but don’t you think that Jerry is going to help Vince? He’s not dead

[@retrokoh]

​@@robbymarton74I wholly think he isnt helping Vince. He isnt getting his hands in this mess

[@megamanxhunter]

​@@retrokoh Probably because he got a part in all of this

[@ThatReallyPaleGuy]

I appreciate you guys being sensitive to the severity of this subject. I know its hard to cover such topics, so just wanted to say thank you. Absolutely disgusting behavior from that POS.

[@teastrainer3604]

Especially given Vince's age. I hope someone will contact Cameo Kneuer and ask her about her employment with Vince.

[@powerofme7144]

@@teastrainer3604Wow I remember that name! What happened?

[@bricastillo-vb1xs]

They need to look into Ashley massaro and all the things she said happened to her

[@AdamSmith-sp5cf]

I think most fans have always known/thought that McMahon was a scumbag but holy cow this is so much worse than I ever could of imagined

[@CourtneyHammett]

This is so horrifying. Worse than anything I could've imagined

[@scotthardie5141]

​@@user-on9ie2lm1yDid you think "it's a good day to defend r@pe" when you woke up this morning or is that every day for you?

[@mattroxursoul]

This is way beyond the scope of what I had expected.

[@joemckim1183]

Vince McMahon is going to be remembered in the same vein as Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein.

[@alesitercrimson24]

He is screwed now badly. No matter what the story really is

[@AREA-jp8vb]

And Jeffrey Epstein. Because he basically did the same thing as Jeffrey Epstein, except with Vince the women weren’t underage (as far as we know)

[@jordannufcfan]

Reading about it made me sick. It’s horrific and revolting. Vince must be made accountable

[@user-on9ie2lm1y]

In the courtroom or public opinions?

[@scotthardie5141]

​@user-on9ie2lm1y Yes and also an actual court, garbage people always act like the internet, and Twitter invented public opinion. Public opinion has always existed and we don't need a court ruling as permission to think someone is a disgusting POS

[@CheknoEternity]

@@user-on9ie2lm1y theirs legitimate text messages. Not a good look trying to defend Vince. It makes you look like a pos

[@retrokoh]

​@@user-on9ie2lm1yBOTH. Primarily the court tho

[@diabeticman2194]

WWE really went from having one of their biggest news weeks ever to now having one of the darkest days in company history

[@stestock2836]

And now Netflix might back out of the deal

[@alesitercrimson24]

@@stestock2836 says who?

[@robbymarton74]

He’s making things up.

[@fordagefilm7554]

Balance. Life is insane that way sometimes.

[@User-yz7wm]

@@alesitercrimson24wwe is getting canceled lil bro

[@liltaxer]

It's sad to think about how many probs knew about all of this and let it happend and did nothing.

[@alesitercrimson24]

They knew he was sleeping with her and thats it. Not sure why everyone is assuming

[@redred222]

why is it anyone else responsivity other then vinces fault im sure other employees knew but what can they do speak out and get fired

[@jonathanschmeh5709]

@redred222 yes, you speak out. Ig what she is accusing him of is true, then there were multiple criminal acts.

[@WillyKillya]

​@@alesitercrimson24maybe because of his history? Why are you assuming he is perfectly innocent?

[@Northsidepace]

i legit felt sick to my stomach reading the allegations within the case and texts sent. They need to erase vince as much as they can from the company

[@romans52345-cy3tq]

It's his creation. He's the owner of the planet

[@romans52345-cy3tq]

There will be no online forms for you to talk about for pro wrestling if it wasn't for that man. So give it up

[@thieve4782]

IMO this is the reason vince sold WWE / stepped down. He new this was coming and I would be willing to bet it's just a start. Pay attention to who leaves next.

[@detroittrickster3327]

hhh

[@_NoDrinkTheBleach]

You know it's bad when Jerry McDevitt is trying to distance himself from this.

[@scottanderson9887]

None of this is surprising, and I share Larson's skepticism about Vince facing criminal repercussions. My heart breaks for the victim, and anyone involved, at the very least, should not work in WWE anymore

[@unoriginalandrew]

He needs to be in jail. He won't because he'll simply buy his way out of it but he needs to be locked up somewhere. House arrest, anything.

[@RevansHalo]

And if TKO does not remove him from all aspects of their company they are just as guilty

[@procklamation]

I read through the lawsuit, and it's so terrible. I respect your decision to spare yourself.

[@darrylax3311]

Makes you wonder who he shared the videos and pictures with? Staff, talent(current and former) .... who knew and stayed quite?

[@Regel2008]

The more and more I read it just disgusting

[@armryl]

I think in order to do justice to any of his victims we shouldn’t be afraid to discuss it. They have to deal with all of this again as it becomes public so the least we can do is inform ourselves and learn who had a hand in even covering it up.

[@zerodos_02]

Thanks for even addressing it. Been so busy and saw no other channels touched it. Vince needed to go 5 years ago, never should have been brought back. This behavior in the 80's would be awful and deplorable but it's even more disgusting it happened less than 4 years ago!

[@cortezwiley]

He wasn't brought back he owned all the shares pretty much and forced his way back.

[@mychaeljones7526]

First person I got was Kicking it with Ross.

[@texpatriot8462]

Do the new owners give Vince McMahon the Chris Benoit treatment? It is hard to imagine a public company booking Brock again.

[@DemonicAlduin]

Unfortunately innocent until proven guilty is what we have to go by in Brock's case at least, Vince is Guilty as hell no question about it.

[@Friendowo]

I read the whole thing front to back, didn't see any of the text messages themselves, but read the court filing and I have to say specifically. This is disgusting, disheartening, and Vince and ALL INVOLVED PARTIES need to be put behind bars. This is a hard topic to discuss and I respect you two for not only discussing it, but separating it from other content as this subject goes well beyond the boundaries of 'pro wrestling' and these people need to be held accountable. Appreciate you two!

[@JDenise09]

Love you guys as always. Thanks for approaching this story the way you did. Today has been emotionally draining and rage inducing.

[@mikea1714]

Why are people so surprised? Rumors about how Vince treated several female performers has been known for the better part of the last decade.

[@fordagefilm7554]

I’m saying. I’m more shocked by the response from everyone, when 3 whole seasons of Vince playing Nick Fury in Dark Side exists and has been covered.

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

Pat Patterson was like that with the children's

[@mrphilosopher3]

This is my first time seeing your channel. Well done on handling this issue appropriately and holding back the disgusting details. You all got a new subscriber for this.

[@SweetChilliPhil92]

Thanks for warning me Steve. I wish I didn’t search for what exactly Vince did … I can’t …

[@Smiley-57]

NONE of it is fact she’s ACCUSING him of these crimes they have not been proven.

[@TheMTwinny]

There's no way I can thank Vince McMahon in any way shape or form bringing in professional wrestling the way it turned out to be today. The Mr. McMahon character is just BORDERLINE what we found out of Vince McMahon the person.

[@Ducci5927]

I personally think if the Montreal thing never happened we wouldn’t know for sure about Vince. But ur right

[@petesantiago9517]

I’ve watched WWF/E since I was a little kid… Vince McMahon is another Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby he has to go and he needs to go to jail too. The 67 page report is disgusting!!! is this what happens when you make too much money it goes to your head you think your above the law . I don’t know if I’ll watch the Royal rumble now . Vince ruined all of that now

[@AREA-jp8vb]

He’s actually closer to a Jeffrey Epstein because of the sex trafficking stuff. The only difference is Vince’s victims were of age. As far as we know.

[@CuriousCorduroy]

The amount of men online defending Vince and doubting the evidence is horrifying. They’re so quick to defend him. I don’t understand it.

[@williamroberts1491]

This is actually disgusting for what happened. That is what money and power does to you. Vince used his power and money to use people. As it was with this lady. It's horrible. Using his power and money to hush people up with what happened to this person and maybe others. But Vince ain't the only person to be accused if doing this disgusting act. Other wrestlers have been named like Brock Lesnar. That shocked me that Brock would do this. All the persons involved with this should spend the rest of their life in prison. All these guys use their power with these victims

[@djpaul8705]

Her name is not "this lady" or "this person". Do you know it

[@williamroberts1491]

@@djpaul8705 Why you questioning if I know her name. Do you know her name.

[@djpaul8705]

@@williamroberts1491 because it's about her. Don't lose sight

[@davetyler3084]

Well handled lads. Please keep up the content. 10 years and still brilliant

[@24elAlien]

We saw this side of him in the "Kiss My A$$" segments where he would force others to kiss his naked behind. It's crazy hearing the crazy levels he took this behavior behind closed doors. He's done.

[@MHJisHere]

Fully support the way you guys have handled this. Totally agree with it having stained things, especially heading into Rumble weekend. Much love friendos

[@cymraegpunk1420]

Thanks for having the balls to do this very disappointed in wrestling news KZbinrs that aren't touching this.

[@Siciliancivilian]

Netflix needs to retcon

[@namelessanarchy]

Just a note the link in the description is unreadable without a WSJ subscription

[@TZone671]

Here is the full formal filing. 67 pages. storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ctd.157647/gov.uscourts.ctd.157647.1.0.pdf

[@jaboiryan7352]

Try incognito mode

[@OldSlyEyes]

anybody defending this man get a side eye from me 😂

[@alesitercrimson24]

Im defending the wrestlers and the people who didnt know. To stop watching the product over this is dumb.

[@scotthardie5141]

Human garbage who think everyone else is a commodity, truly hidious. I sincerely appreciate the sensitivity and decency you show in how you handle subjects like this though, thank you

[@Cactus1052]

This is honestly similar to some Activision level disgustingness..

[@neilybobber694]

We all knew Vince was a sick man, but this is just new level of evil

[@TheSpektrum1989]

"horrifying" and "disgusting" are understatements, man. you'd need all the words in all the languages to cover how awful this all is.

[@braddarrell6460]

They knew this was coming, why do think the rock was announced yesterday.

[@AREA-jp8vb]

As a female wrestling fan I have to say watching the reactions from most of the men in this fandom have been extremely emotional for me. Seeing them not only believe a victim, but condemn the actions of the abuser. It really makes me love and appreciate the culture we as fans have built. I live in Canada and we are having a scandal come to light in hockey, unfortunately majority of fans are rallying behind the group of accused men, and tearing down the victim. It’s just really nice to see that most wrestling fans have empathy and compassion. And as a woman, it’s nice to see that they have respect for women.

[@AmericanNinja02]

TKO needs to fire him ASAP

[@tallthinkev]

Yep, yet they have to take little bit of time so it doesn't come back to bit them. It will have to go through TKO lawyers, he'll be gone no later than Friday evening

[@jesuszamora6949]

Oh yeah, Endeavor is going to cross every t and dot every i. They're not going to leave Vince any wiggle room.

[@tomofthepops]

He’ll be gone by tomorrow night

[@AmericanNinja02]

@tallthinkev this makes the rock news even more suspicious (not that he wouldn't make a good public face ) but it feels like they knew to some extent this was going to come out ..

[@joshyboy1983]

I'm thinking Monday.@@tallthinkev

[@ThrupleQuashimodo]

None of this is shocking or surprising, which is a tragedy in itself. Thank you both for handling this situation with the care and courtesy it and the victims deserve.

[@steveazbill4757]

Sadly, this type of behavior happens in the business world a lot more than people think or want to believe. He's one of many who should answer for the things they've done. Whether they will...that's another matter.

[@ApeSapiens]

No Steve, you are not cynical, you are realistic. You look at the world arround you and given what the world offers you, you deduce that that billionaire will never be adequately punished, all of this will be settled out of court, and then in 5 years max Vince is returning to WWE TV and fans bow down to him. It's not that you are cynical, it is that our society is evidently fucked.

[@MusicAddict9228]

Now it makes sense why brock got so mad when Vince got let go

[@joshshaw3284]

Thanks' for covering this, you all did great talking about this and also hard to talk about.

[@lordcorgi6481]

If you pay someone to sign an NDA about commiting crimes should be illegal. I'm pretty sure that falls under witness tampering.

[@mychaeljones7526]

Huh?

[@joshyboy1983]

TKO KNEW this was going to come out. They scrambled to get Rock in & announce the Netflix deal(I think that one was coincidental). When DJ was named to the board, I said Vince would be gone after 'Mania. WELL, Now I think he'll be out, at the earliest, Monday. EFF that POS.

[@oIRONITEo]

At the latest Monday, if he's not I'll be shocked.

[@logd27]

Needed this after I saw the story

[@VicHolland_SCS]

Even though I went to SummerSlam ‘21, I have not been comfortable watching WWE since they fired a ton of people shortly after the world shut down (not that these two things are related at all). It sucks how terrible people can ruin something you enjoy. I hope the accuser gets justice but also finds peace.

[@alesitercrimson24]

Im watching for the superstars there and they need our support. Punishing them by not watching over this is ridiculous.

[@user-on9ie2lm1y]

@@alesitercrimson24 this has been happening for over a year. People just forget till now. You think this is new news to WWE or TKO?

[@CheknoEternity]

@@user-on9ie2lm1yevery time you talk you expose yourself for being a real scumbag

[@ravenfazenbaker2497]

It's only for money that's all. It's the only reason she is doing this

[@dingdong-lt9rz]

​@@ravenfazenbaker2497only for money 😂😂 please wake up fool !

[@jamiewiesner135]

This whole thing makes me sick. Vince McMahon needs to be in jail.

[@williamm6446]

Were talking 50 to 100 million to have this settled out of court. To go to trial would be insane. And it's criminal : rape" ...so Vince could be in jail a year from now. Most of this horror took place at her workplace, she was an employee. This could just be the beginning.

[@freddyp319]

Are these new details to an already established case or new allegations from a new person. Vince is wild though

[@CourtneyHammett]

Same exact woman who had the NDA and millions in hush money

[@jonathanschmeh5709]

The details are new, but the events have been known for a while. These are the events that the original WSJ article was about.

[@jesuszamora6949]

Vince stopped making payments, apparently. Contracts work both ways, it seems.

[@greywolf7583]

You got to wonder how many other how many Wrestler were involved over the years if this was true and how many female Wrestler that could have been victims as well

[@brianrundle9090]

Refreshing watching your correct reaction over this horrific act as opposed to watching Jim Cornetts who was laughing the entire time.

[@NicoCdawg]

I strongly appreciate your guys approach to talking about this, it's such a heavy situation and I strongly admire you two for being so real about it

[@djpaul8705]

You guys have the Jim Ross voice after the Owen tragedy.

[@SteveAndLarson]

Huh

[@djpaul8705]

@@SteveAndLarson the tone of your voices reminded me of how JR sounded after Owen passed.

[@JMC1396]

This is such a horrific and disgusting thing and anyone involved needs to be held accountable. I hope you guys know I care about you and the other wresting KZbinrs for how much you get me through, and Its such a hard thing to read about as a fan, I hope if it does make it harder to talk about trivial wresting things you know that's ok. Please take care of yourselves.

[@alesitercrimson24]

Im not gonna stop watching wwe because of it. Why should the wrestlers get their lives effected because of a former boss? Give me a break. You guys got to calm down. Hate Vince and thats fine. He is terrible. To think the whole company is bad is too much

[@cjrobinson6378]

Vince is a monster.

[@custardgannet4836]

Then, now, forever.

[@nigelbailey7801]

I'm sorry but I honestly like what you did there.​@@custardgannet4836

[@CasualFox12495]

Despite the nature of this news, I hope you guys are having a good day otherwise. Steve and Larson deserve all the best. Enjoy the Rumble, guys.

[@tommyscavetta3153]

What I hope from this womans courage is that it'll allow other women to come forward with there stories about how truly sick Vince is he has every chance he will go to hell

[@StudioONY]

You hit the nail on the head of why we ended Married Marks: I couldn't handle the constant triggers and trauma of the industry. I hate to say this, but I would bet that most afab folx are far from surprised. I appreciate you two so much for sharing this. Miss ya- Shannon and Richard

[@DrMuffins321]

getting dropped by your lawyer is crazy... especially one that won him a case against the US government

[@philbobaggins4206]

Vince’s post about “retirement” alllllll makes sense now. Allah is speaking to the world folks. Keep praying and stay humble

[@moaziz23]

Benoit waiting for Vince in hell

[@davisonsarai7763]

When you decide to protect your viewers from the ugly details, Which I understand, It continues to give people the ability to pretend that things aren't so bad. People need to hear how bad it is.

[@A_YouTube_Commenter]

How bad?

[@davisonsarai7763]

@@A_KZbin_Commenter Take this one story and times it by several million people, And then make it slightly less intense and times that by several millions of people, And then make it slightly less intense than that and times that by millions more people.

[@goatbrook9065]

we always knew vince was a bit of a weirdo but i would have never thought it could be something this bad

[@__senjutsu]

I must say. This has gotta be the true nail in the coffin. There was no way he would just quietly go away without any repercussion from the series of events from allegations last...he need the book thrown at him.

[@johnmcnamara8741]

Guys, just to be safe you should say “allegedly” don’t want you to get in any trouble. You handled this topic well 🙏

[@johnnielewis4250]

No words

[@MidwestBlissGreatLakes]

Agreed. No Words here either

[@ryanpotter9152]

So Ashley Massaro's story was true then..

[@StarKushExoticGalaxy]

Sad sad sad

[@hansthebeast9740]

The Rock is an idiot if he doesn’t run away from the WWE. The whole thing is going to be so toxic.

[@zozangzozang4073]

People finally learning the absolute filth that is the wrestling business, and a lot of the individuals involved, this late in the game will never not be funny to me.

[@deadpoolnerd]

I hope this woman can be given the justice and peace she deserves. Because from what's said, they absolutely did not treat that woman with any sorce of humanity. Treating her like an object. Situations like this should be made an example of. That just because you're rich known etc, doesn't mean you can act any which way and think you can get away with it.

[@michaelalognon3027]

Is this new or is this a continuation of the report from last year?

[@magi404]

Continuation

[@michaelalognon3027]

​@@magi404 Thanks

[@chm9935]

Endeavor is probably calling Vince and asking "Wtf?!!"

[@charmer711]

Now Vince is going to hear the saying he once made famous, YOU’RE FIRED!

[@TaliaIGhul]

This almost makes me wonder if Vince McMahon will be named as one of those people who went to Jeffery Epstein's island. I'm not saying he did or didn't, but at this point, I wouldn't put it past him.

[@CavinLee]

I kinda had that thought cross my mind. I don't know if that would make anyone feel any differently about him because he already has a long history with sexual misconduct allegations

[@elvinsolano6177]

Oh, so this is all about money, huh

[@Gokulosestoavirus]

I can’t wait for the Solomonster rant

[@neilsmith9066]

this girl has text messages. Absolute Monsters

[@markshepherd9153]

There was female employee, accused Vince of similar in the 80s & he managed to make her go away. So who knows how many more potential Victims there are!

[@abhisheksatam]

Would this or could this affect their Netflix deal?

[@chm9935]

The atty Jerry McDevitt is no longer representing vince??!!! Wow!!!!

[@Jhakri_]

I've read it, I don't think I've ever felt my blood boil like this before.

[@stestock2836]

I wonder if Netflix will try and get out of their deal with WWE now

[@andreholly2027]

Nah

[@User-yz7wm]

@@andreholly2027wwe getting canceled

[@themarinect]

I hope Vince will be gone for good this time. Every time wwe have great news, he manages to ruin it

[@Prosodyy]

Just waiting for the Dana white scandal to drop now

[@tammyforbes2101]

I look for others to come out if this is true! They’re always others!! To many fish in his pond for him not to have went fishing another day!

[@Orser82]

So depressing Vince Daily for the next year?😢

[@albertgallanosa8600]

That’s what Fabulous Moolah been doing allegedly

[@georgealcaraz4967]

Vince is a billionaire, but no amount of wealth should protect this lunatic from not going to jail. Vince needs to go to jail. I hope the District Attorney of that state picks this up and charges this depraved, disgusting person.