NEW MAPI Course: The History of Islam" (Mar.27-May15)

[@danielshellaiah5068]

Welcome you Dr Daniel thanks

[@dollahmusa6705]

God bless you both...

[@joeljjohnson1]

Hi Dr. Jay thank you once again for helping us understand the reality of Islam. Dr. Jay I would like to share the good news to our muslim friends too I belive God has put a burden in my heart for them. Hence, I request you, if it's possible to share your slides and few materials so I could learn and study and to grow in better understanding. Also, am hoping to see you one day at the speakers corner. 😇❤️ #Godisgood

[@danielshellaiah5068]

We thanks Dr jay you done great Christian community never forget your hard work! Last 40 years! Thanks again

[@lamtarauha700]

As everyone is looking forward for truth by witnessing what is next

[@defenderoftruth3212]

How I earnestly wish that there is now an ORIGINAL ARAMAIC GOSPEL because I am dying inside to read it. I hope there is a translation in English. It's hard to read it in its original form in Aramaic. I don't know that language. I think Aramaic is much harder to read than Arabic. I believe that this Gospel is a book of spiritual guidance from God. Unlike the 4 make-believe gospels, their contents are purely biographies of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) but with a huge hole in the accounts of his life covering the primetime of his age. From what museum or library can we find the original ARAMAIC GOSPEL? Is there any original manuscript for it? I am urging Jay Smith and his cohorts to produce that book as soon as possible so that Muslims and Christians alike will be enlightened. -06-20-23

[@redleaf4902]

Can I register? Jay? Perdy peas? With a humble humanist cherry on top?

[@alonzoharris9049]

You are wasting your time. He is not a scholar. In one of his articles he calls Dan Gibson an archaeologist.🤣 He uses him as a source in his article. How can we take him serious? Even Dan Gibson doesn’t claim to be an archaeologist. He doesn’t even have credentials. Janosik the Christian apologists has no problem using a non academic source in his ‘academic’ article. What a joke.

[@redleaf4902]

@@alonzoharris9049 __ Hi Alonzo. Hope your winter is winding down nicely. I understand your issue with three very different kinds of history of religion knowledge: __the Islamic scholars (in the East; in the West); __career Western academics (people of faith or humanist); ___missionaries, trained up in various faith mission schools, some of whom also rack up master's and PhD degrees (such as Jay), in various Western universities. I have 3 uni degrees (history, theology (in a French Catholic uni), and ed degree); I also managed to spent a season in the Middle East as interpreter for two archaeologists; in the wake of that half year in the Fertile Crescent, I also have attended various internat conferences (history, archaeology, theology). I think I can critically judge the qualifications and knowledge of Dan Gibson, Jay, secular scholars. I decided, after some critical evaluation, that both Dan Gibson and Jay Smith, who both repeatedly tell their audiences that the scholarship is ever changing, that I can learn from them. One thing I can assure you is true: a person who has spent two and half decades, in the field, in the dust, the sand and the ruins of ancient structure, is a person I want to listen to. I don't care if that person is a high school drop out.

[@alonzoharris9049]

@@redleaf4902 How do you know? Because he says so? How do you know Jay Smith has degrees? Because he says so? How do you know Dan Gibson really visited these sites he claims to have visited? Because he claims so? The whole Petra theory is full of dishonesty. He fabricated data. That’s proven. He also dismissed the findings of archaeologists and and makes opposite claims while never proven this. One of the examples is the Ayla mosque. This Mosque is 60 miles from Petra. The qibla wall is the southern wall. It has a niche. Archaeologists have discovered this. Petra is north of this mosque. What did Gibson do? He dismissed the archeological evidence and simply says it’s the northern wall. How dishonest can you be? The southern wall completely debunks his wild theory. He had to make up y things to make his theory work and not fall flat. This whole group is full of dishonesty. They are not scholars. They are dishonest apologists who can’t refute Islam theologically. They have to resort to deceptive dishonest tactics to avoid real discussions in theology.

[@aaabrams1889]

@@redleaf4902 TEL ME, will you ask advice from a Butcher on surgical matters or from a swimming instructor who supposedly knows all the moves but can't swim? YOU ASK A MUSLIM SCHOLAR OR IMAM ON ISLAM as the others can't swim and will chop up the religion to suit their own agendas.

[@redleaf4902]

@@aaabrams1889 ___ Hi Abraham. I just did tell and explain, why it is that it is possible to learn information from a source that is not seen as the most "authoritative". But, if you wish, I can expand on your valid analogy to further my point: _ in the French speaking Catholic world I grew up in, we came to realize that the hierarchy of the church could at time be acting in its own self-interest,, and so, we developed a healthy respect for our own, God-given, common sense. We KNOW, that sometimes, clarity comes from the most humble of human beings. Now, Jay knows this better than anyone, he can be loud, and debate with the persistence of a ten year old learning to ride a bike; he learned from the best debaters: Muslims from northern India. He is not one to be cruel or humiliate, but, he does not shy away from letting a bit of theatricality seep into his arguments. Gibson, on the other hand, is a quiet man, not boastful, who shares with love and respect his work on Mihrab and Qibla wall direction. A carpenter who works for decades along side a Master, but does not have 'paper' showing accreditation, is still the carpenter I will go to, because he works with care and patience. One thing you find out very fast, in the world of academia: there are some who purport to be scholarly, yet they are easily tripped up by the young field worker. I would not deny that the Imam is a holy man, of good intentions, of great knowledge, even rightly calling out some of the errors in Western Christian Tradition; this does not mean that Imam can also have need to revisit some early history of his own Tradition. I will never be snarky, or rude, or insult; I do not practice a faith; I am firmly in the School of Humanism. (which is why Jay will never let me take the course). I am also firmly for history, text and language analysis, and I believe in using geography, geology, botany, biology, and all ancient records, to help gaze into the past. Do I know how to be disciplined, how to follow a Master? Yes: but I do not do so blindly, for she or he is a human being, and not all-knowing.

[@siaboonleong]

@PfanderFilms Hello! Even ChatGPT concurs with you about founder of ISLAM !! : "It is true that the historical evidence for the existence of Muhammad is not as robust as that for Jesus or even the Buddha. This is partly because the early Islamic community did not place as much emphasis on preserving historical records and artifacts, and partly because the early Islamic sources that do exist are often subject to different interpretations and controversies. However, there are still some historical sources and artifacts that can be used to study the life and teachings of Muhammad, including early Islamic texts such as the Quran and the Hadith, as well as non-Muslim sources such as the Byzantine historian Theophanes and the Armenian historian Sebeos. As with any historical figure, there are always uncertainties and debates surrounding the historical record of Muhammad's life and teachings. Nevertheless, the available evidence suggests that he was a real historical figure who lived in Arabia in the 7th century CE and founded the Islamic tradition, which has had a profound and lasting impact on human history and continues to be followed by over a billion people around the world today."

[@yakovmatityahu]

How much Tution fees for Online class?

[@aaabrams1889]

Come to my school - IT'S FREE!!!

[@yakovmatityahu]

@@aaabrams1889 where?

[@aaabrams1889]

@@yakovmatityahu YOU CAN LEARN HERE - From a Muslim scholar - ME....and still learning as Mohammad (saw) said educate yourself from the cradle to the grave.

[@chesterwoodring3029]

All Muslim call Moses and Abraham liars. HOW? Read Genesis 22 on biblehub etc. God said He would send His Son to be the Lamb that takes away sin of the world. ...... NOTICE how the Creator of the universe whom made the stars moon sun earth and Adam and Eve the first humans is a FATHER...... And yet every Muslim says God has NO children and yet the queeran clearly states that Allah has a a wife and daughters but NO son. Allah is a Nabataean pharaoh that was made into myth same as all the hindhudoo stuff. Why does India worship cows ? Cause Egypt worshipped cows and bulls. In the BIBLE ..... Cush is the father of Rama..... And yet the hindhu pandits made a fake narrative that says Rama is the father of Cush Krishna is god of ( reincarnation) as stated in gita and many other documents if hindhu. Reincarnation, evolution, millions and billions of years are all lies. Krishna did not hold up a mountain on a pinky for 7 days and seven nights, the pounds per square inch pressure would have squashed him..... And let's entertain the possibility for 10 seconds that that lie was truth, that would mean that the iron arrow that hit Krishna foot and killed him instantly would have never pierced him at all cause he was able to survive pounds per square inch of a mountain that the harekrishnas 🐇 say was taller than mount everest. Fact is there is no mountain range from taj mahal to govardharn to Delhi that has ever been taller than mount everest. STOP THE SCI FI MYTH LIES. Krist is the Greek word for Messiah. And that word came to India with invading army of Alexander the great. Where translators and wicked brahmins and pundits edited the narrative to take souls away from the true Biblical foundation. Yogis holding arm in air for long time is cause that's what Moses did. Read Bible and you'll see. The red dot on forehead was originally meant to be representation of blood on the threshold like exodus story. .... Muhammad never ascended in Jerusalem. Muhammad body is buried in Medina Saudi Arabia and he died in 632 AD when one of his 11 wives Ayesha was 18 years old. Ayesha was 6 when married Mohammed and 9 when fornicated. Muslim documents prove that she pre puberty and still playing with dolls. Another thing horses don't have wings and Mohammed bragged about flying on winged horse and yet NO one in Jerusalem ever saw a winged horse 🍗 🐎 🍗. Jay Smith of pfander films has multitude of videos that defeat many heresies of Muslim. . Horses with wings is Greek Roman Myth. Clearly Mohammed wanted to claim he was a superhero flying on a winged horse to look important. Clearly all the people living in Jerusalem never seen a horse with wings nor a jihady Muslim that executed 800 Jews in Medina Saudi Arabia cause they would NOT sign a document stating that Mohammed was the Messiah of Jew scripture. Evil Muhammad

[@taibiakarim4864]

Islam is over

[@alonzoharris9049]

Is Janosik a scholar?🥴🤣 I’ve just read one of his articles. This is what he writes. ‘Only a triune God, defined as one essence and three persons, could become incarnate and still remain god of the universe.’🤣 Let’s accept the premise of his argument for the sake of argument. Why can’t million persons in one being do that?🤓 Why only three?

[@garybowings1538]

"I know how female mammals make breast milk. I am a biological expert!" - Alonzo Harris

[@aaabrams1889]

@mysotiras 018 ''Mufti'' Daniel Janosik knows EVERYTHING about Islam It's like asking a Butcher for Surgery advice😅🤣😂

[@aaabrams1889]

@mysotiras 018 Do you get Muslim Dr's and Professors who teach XTIANITY at any school or university? WHY ARE YOU PAGAN XTIANS SOO DESPERATE?😅🤣😂 Janosik’s goal is to develop materials and provide instruction that will encourage xtian students to learn more about Islam... so that they can LIE to Muslims more effectively - WHY? BECAUSE THERE IS NO xTIANITY ANYMORE All are BY NAME ONLY as churches are empty and being transformed into Mosques - BECAUSE ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING AND BREEDINF RELIGION - Breeding - because of Islamic FAMILY VALUES which Xtianity lost - where so-called xtian families take more care of their dogs than their teenaged daughters ... The rest prefer to be single or/and Gay while the rest of the Xtians are either on drugs, partying or/and roaming the streets and bars and/or in prison

[@arablight363]

Because it is only three - Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Who is your God?

[@bolladeen]

Oh yea...keep on changing your doctrine about the history of islam just like you did with your christianity. Congrat, you now have cristian churches for Lgbtqpklm....who knows what else had been added along this 2000years.

[@aaabrams1889]

@@irishheritage893 The Christianity of Jesus was SUBMISSION TO THE WILL OF THEE CREATOR ALONE AND DIRECTLY - meaning of Islam. And the Xtianity practiced today is from Satan Paul/Saul of Tarsus, the First Anti-christ who made-up his own brand of Pagan Pauline Xtianity for the gentiles. After the alleged cruciFICTION of Jesus, many made-up their own kind of Xtianity based on this by copying old pagan religions like Mithra-ism and others. 1000 of different denominations, cults, sects all claimed to be Xtian and only after the Council of Nescea in 325 AD, the Pagan Constantine and the Bishops he called VOTED in the divinity of Jesus and chose Satan Paul's doctrine as it was more compatible to what their previous pagan religions were.

[@murielpucoe9213]

We read a book with pictures about muslim homosexuality... men having sex with men and boys. So.... go and research your religion before you try to do realsearch on someone else's. There is also proof that there were lesbians in the harems and they were killed if caught having sex with each other.

[@murielpucoe9213]

@Atal Sadat are you talking about a prophet who never saw his own God or spoke to him?All prophets in this world were chosen by God ... but your prophet was chosen by his father... Waraqa and his wife. Waraqa had a great influence in the revelations. The prophet was born 4yes after the death of his father... stupid.!

[@aaabrams1889]

@@irishheritage893 You said; ''Paul had a vision of Jesus on the road to Damascus.'' YES - As a BRIGHT LIGHT and later admitted that Lucifer masqueraders as a bright light. (2 Cor 11:14) Jesus said in Mathew 24:23-26, NKJV “Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand. Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it’ SO DO NOT BELIEVE SATAN PAUL who said he saw ''jesus'' on the desert road to Damascus.

[@aaabrams1889]

@@murielpucoe9213 Mohammad (saw) was selected from the Best of THE BEST OF THE BEST OF THE BEST...and this is said by a supposed enemy of Islam, a Jewish Professor who studied Islam for over 50 years and lectures to academics at Israeli Universities - IS HE WRONG? kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXuvpahvptWoeZY

[@alonzoharris9049]

Daniel Janosik believes in three gods.

[@garybowings1538]

"Muhammed (PBRB) is older than the universe! Ask me how I know!" - Alonzo Harris

[@aaabrams1889]

@mysotiras 018 Your god ''jesus'' prayed to GOD😅😂😂

[@Speakers154]

Run away from any debates lately?

[@alonzoharris9049]

@@Speakers154 Christians run from debates.

[@thetru123th]

Why you so interested in isalm should be concentrating on chritainty that's a made religion as well .why don't you discuss this .

[@kerrumble]

You may find it useful to investigate the historical evidence for Christianity and the authenticity of the Bible, as I did. Serious historians almost all attest to the strong evidence of an authentic, historic Christianity and Bible to at least two thousand years ago. Whether one believes it is another matter, but certainly there is a great deal of historic credibility to it. What Dr Jay expounds is that similar historical investigation of the Quran and the traditional understanding of Islam raises serious questions and contradictory evidence , much of which is inexplicable to date. I think I’m searching for truth, one has to be investigative. Unless of course one is purely “dogmatic” on the basis of tradition.

[@jcmrob3723]

Dr jay Smith it would be a great idea to put all that information into a book to Study on our own time if you do you can put me on your list, thank you for all you do for God's creatures.

[@alonzoharris9049]

He will never do that. He wants to change positions each seconds. Whatever suits him. He doesn’t believe in his own claims to write a book. He knows they will make fun of him. He knows he is trying to sell crap.

[@jcmrob3723]

@@alonzoharris9049 does the truth hurt dude?

[@alonzoharris9049]

@@jcmrob3723 What truth? Can you define truth?

[@jcmrob3723]

@@alonzoharris9049 there's only one truth jesus christ The saviour, otherwise what are you doing in here?🦧💤

[@alonzoharris9049]

@@jcmrob3723 Only Jesus is the truth? What about the Father?