New Massey Ferguson 1735M Overview, New Bush Hog Issue, and Other Tractors Price Comparisons

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@Axethales
@Axethales 4 жыл бұрын
I've owned my 1735M cab tractor for a year now. I absolutely love it. This thing is a beast. I use it for clearing acres of woods and grading it out. Can easily lift 24" diameter trees 8-12 feet long. I used it in the winter to plow my 1/4 mile long drive as well. Perfect.
@joshsstuffs5877
@joshsstuffs5877 4 жыл бұрын
I went with Massey after looking at Mahindra, Kubota, Kioti and JD. Same reasons you mentioned. Price, quality, and a host of other reasons. After 50hrs on it, I am still happy with the purchase and would make it again.
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it worked out for you.
@anewrnn
@anewrnn 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thx for posting. Massey's dont get enough love on YT
@allenhunt3070
@allenhunt3070 5 жыл бұрын
Really good video! Thanks for covering so much detail and even the pricing. This is really helpful. Looking forward to your videos of this tractor.
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks I plan to add more later of it working and a proper review after I put some hours on it.
@geraldcarter6722
@geraldcarter6722 4 жыл бұрын
I am buying my MF 1736E from Hobo Tractors within the month. So far my impression of the sales staff (Ty) has been impressive, he knows the product, listened to my needs and gave suggestion on what I should buy.
@garyprice6651
@garyprice6651 3 жыл бұрын
Great job reviewing with giving comparisons on prices.
@Whitetailpursuer
@Whitetailpursuer 3 жыл бұрын
Excellently done. Thank you for sharing.
@jeffx9208
@jeffx9208 5 жыл бұрын
Nice review! I bought my 1735M at the end of 2018 and I love it. Definitely the most bang for your buck.
@thehawkc
@thehawkc 2 жыл бұрын
I know this was two years ago. But it is still a great overview. Thanks
@scooterpie696
@scooterpie696 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my 1735M in December of 2019. I got it with a rear remote, a third function valve and beet juice in the tires for $25,000. I have 255 hours on it. I wish it had a brush guard that offered more protection than the one that comes on it. I also wish the rear lights were mounted inside the ROPS. It's too easy to damage them where they are mounted. I had to have warranty work done on it when a hydraulic line underneath cracked and started leaking. Also, my fuel gauge quit working. I'll be taking it in next week. Having said that, I love it. This unit is strong and capable. I would buy it all over again. The features are awesome. Mine lifts while curling just fine. A buddy of mine bought a JD a few months earlier and also had a defective hydraulic line blow out. These things happen. Hopefully all the bugs are worked out as my front to back warranty ends in two months. Great review. Thanks.
@jgcoupe6808
@jgcoupe6808 4 жыл бұрын
I still have issues with my fuel gauge on my 1736, it’s a known issue but the TSB says it’s a grounding issue. The lights on the ROPS get caught on mine also and I’ve had to replace them already ($$). Only issue I had was when it was new with 4 hours, a coupling valve for the dump failed. Been a great tractor thus far but definitely don’t get enough attention compared to others.
@scooterpie696
@scooterpie696 4 жыл бұрын
@@jgcoupe6808 I took mine in before the warranty expired and the dealership had hired a new tech. He was aware of the fuel gauge problem and said he was able to seal the wiring so there would be no more grounding issues. Time will tell. It has been working well ever since. I agree that they are tough and impressive tractors. I can't believe I didn't buy one much earlier. Thanks for the reply.
@rockymtndieselrider1133
@rockymtndieselrider1133 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! The bucket control, you CAN absolutely lift/dump simultaneously. Subscribed
@20cricket09
@20cricket09 10 ай бұрын
Wish I would've got mine back in the good old days lol, I just got a 1835m to upgrade my gc1725m and she's 34K now with 3rd function.
@timharmon3441
@timharmon3441 5 жыл бұрын
very nice review, thank you for uploading this. very helpfull in my search for a new machine
@miltonaliff3316
@miltonaliff3316 4 жыл бұрын
Good demo, and explanation
@lesbendo6363
@lesbendo6363 4 жыл бұрын
I would also have them replace the four nut bolting down the right angle drive I see on top of your cutter.
@ThatDudeSirraj
@ThatDudeSirraj 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent and appreciated video. I'm on the hunt for a tractor as well. Too much I want to do on the property and I can't take 20 years to do little things like my pops did. I gotta get er done.
@pedrobatista4439
@pedrobatista4439 5 жыл бұрын
The bolt on the PTO shaft for the mower acts as a fusible link, but what's missing, is a cir-clip that prevents the shaft from coming off when the bolt breaks. That's what cause most of the problems. If you check the shaft on the mower, you'll see a groove on the very end of the shaft. Anyways, that's indeed a nice looking machine. Greetings from Portugal.
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. The dealership already fixed it too. They've been very hospitable.
@valleytractorservices9310
@valleytractorservices9310 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsRandomVids_US looks like you have a slip clutch not a shear bolt
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
@@valleytractorservices9310 I know it was fixed already.
@garymeyer3294
@garymeyer3294 4 жыл бұрын
My Rhino Ag mower has the same gearbox. I had a similar problem. On mine the slip clutch came off the shaft. The problem was that someone at the factory used a grade 5 bolt and applied grade 8 bolt torque specs thereby twisting the nut off. The owners manual clearly states that a grade 8 , 3.5x1/2 MUST be used. The groove for the cir-clip is meant for shear pin attachment and doesn't apply to the slip clutch. How do I know? When you reattach the slip clutch assembly the groove is completely covered by the back half of the u-jount. You couldn't get a clip on no matter what.
@martinbelisle4961
@martinbelisle4961 5 жыл бұрын
And let's be honnest, it's a really good looking tractor compared to the others.
@rogerd8121
@rogerd8121 4 жыл бұрын
Nice i was looking at kubotas but now seeing this video on Massey,!!
@scotty8482
@scotty8482 3 жыл бұрын
it's a shame you can't find them anywhere in the UK
@adventurerhoades
@adventurerhoades 5 жыл бұрын
#236 here let's go n grow our channels and show! I just bought my 1735m at the end of 2018. Our first tractor. We love it. I have a few videos using it. Love the indicator, ground fueling, easy to grease up. I think it's a tank. Love your video. I think massey needs more of these out. Under the radar tractor it's great. No def fluid needed! What area u in? We are in northern Michigan! I agree I love consumer videos better than dealer= real world. Thanks for sharing!
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and this tractor definitely seems to be an 'under the radar' tractor but it deserves to be showcased. I'm from North Florida myself.
@tgh223
@tgh223 4 жыл бұрын
best review ive ever heard
@drizler
@drizler 4 жыл бұрын
If you do any brush moving that rod bucket position indicator WILL get ripped loose and bent I promise you. I’ve had mine off twice to straighten the thing on my 1736. You can’t get that rod off easily on mine either to straighten it. Those rear lights LOVE to get ripped off mowing near hedge rows🥺. I cut mine off the ROPS And reversed them to the inside because I got sick of gluing them back together. I really wish they were removable with a QD plug
@sergebinder9363
@sergebinder9363 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comments , do yo know how much cost a cabin
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 3 жыл бұрын
This model is no longer sold so I'm not sure but always assume a cab adds close to 10k to any compact tractor.
@MrLee22963
@MrLee22963 5 жыл бұрын
Great review! Thank you for that!
@311hitwall
@311hitwall 5 жыл бұрын
23500 was with loader? DId you get the larger tires on the rear - 17.5? Does it have a decent seat other than the foam being decent?
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
It was 23.5k with the loader but that's not including the cutter and box blade. The larger tires already came with my tractor so it wasn't a special order. The seat is great. It absorbs a lot of the rough ride.
@311hitwall
@311hitwall 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsRandomVids_US Did you also price the 1740M? One of the dealers told me that the difference between the 1750 and 1755 was less than $1000. When you get to the 1750 they are a larger tractor, but guessing the price jump would be similar from a 35 to a 40.
@311hitwall
@311hitwall 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsRandomVids_US Something else i noticed in the brochure is that the loader for the 1735 and 40 does not come with the Skid Steer system as standard. Loader DL125 1735/40M Tool Carrier Pin-on (SS Quick Attach opt.)
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
@@311hitwall the skid steer quick release came standard with mine so that's something you'll have to verify with your dealer. As for the 1740M my dealer wanted an extra 2k for it so I skipped it to save some money. Be sure to ask your dealer about the prices. Dealers vary in prices and deals.
@HmoobXyooj55
@HmoobXyooj55 5 жыл бұрын
23.5k is good. I paid 27k for my 1740M.
@TheMabbasi
@TheMabbasi 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please have a follow up video for Massey 1735
@JoshHarvey
@JoshHarvey 5 жыл бұрын
Keep us updated on the tractor and upload some videos of it working.
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
I plan on it once I get more hours on it.
@cmburns2606
@cmburns2606 2 жыл бұрын
With MF ditching the Shibaura engines, do you have any concerns about long term dealer service and parts availability?
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 2 жыл бұрын
Actually I do have some concerns because Iseki is a larger and more well known company than Shibaura. My main concern is parts availability. Usually the more common and more engines a company pumps out, the more available parts are. So only time will tell.
@ranchitosantos5165
@ranchitosantos5165 2 жыл бұрын
Can you give is an update on the tractor? Do you still like it? Any issues? Would you buy it again?
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 2 жыл бұрын
I added an update to the description of the video. I no longer own it due to financial reasons. I would gladly buy it again.
@houndsmanone4563
@houndsmanone4563 5 жыл бұрын
You're gonna love that Massey. I like the comments you made about your dealership. They sound like a good crew. You did an excellent job highlighting the features of the Massey. I am going to get a cabbed unit sometime down the road. I've worked outside enough and want a cab unit. I'm tired of those ground bees and everything else that gets so dang ticked-off at me when I run over their nest, ha. Won't buy for several months then will make similar video. Thanks John, great review. New Subscriber!
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the response. I wanted a cab as well but I work too close to pine trees. I'd lose a cab to limbs in a heartbeat lol.
@houndsmanone4563
@houndsmanone4563 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsRandomVids_US Me too. I'll call ya if I lose the cab....LoL.
@stanlunsmann6201
@stanlunsmann6201 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsRandomVids_US fuel filter
@Karl_Degraa
@Karl_Degraa 4 жыл бұрын
I think in Australia these tractors are blue and are called Isekis.
@landon21and1
@landon21and1 3 жыл бұрын
Do have Iseki engines, probably
@robertlandry762
@robertlandry762 3 жыл бұрын
@@landon21and1 if u look on you tube these tractors r made by iseki identicial tractors in blue the grill and lights a bit different
@thehawkc
@thehawkc 2 жыл бұрын
How's it doing now?
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 2 жыл бұрын
It was doing great but I had to sell and downsize due to financial reasons.
@pmaint1
@pmaint1 Жыл бұрын
Who makes the engine?
@311hitwall
@311hitwall 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you could measure the width of the tractor? Just for comparison sake when looking at other tractors.
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 4 жыл бұрын
I can measure it from the widest point possible if you'd like.
@311hitwall
@311hitwall 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsRandomVids_US I would appreciate it!
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 4 жыл бұрын
@@311hitwall it's 68" wide at the rear tires without the extra wide spacers that you can add to them.
@311hitwall
@311hitwall 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsRandomVids_US Thanks for the information.
@pmaint1
@pmaint1 Жыл бұрын
Nice review thanks
@miscellaneous3989
@miscellaneous3989 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I have been shopping for about 2 years and am about ready to purchase a new tractor. Massey has been my first choice from the beginning. What dealer did you purchase this from?
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
A dealer called HoBo Tractor in Lake City, FL.
@miscellaneous3989
@miscellaneous3989 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsRandomVids_US Thank you, I might have to visit them. My local dealer is somewhat too proud of the tractors they have on the lot that are faded and been there too long. I am in middle GA
@ProjectWildwood
@ProjectWildwood 3 жыл бұрын
Drove one the other day and didnt have any issues curling and lifting at the same time.
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 3 жыл бұрын
It was operator error on my part. I realized later it could.
@ProjectWildwood
@ProjectWildwood 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsRandomVids_US Awesome. I am ordering my 1835M today and very excited. Have you used your R4 tires in the mud? The dealer says it wont be a problem but i feel iffy about it. Any updates or concerns you have after owning for a while?
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectWildwood the R4 tires do quite well in the mud especially considering how big they are. Not sure if they're a different size on the 1735m vs 1835m. I've had mine partially buried once and it was able to get out. It's been a good tractor with no real concerns I can think of.
@ProjectWildwood
@ProjectWildwood 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsRandomVids_US thanks very much!
@KountryCuz1
@KountryCuz1 3 жыл бұрын
I have had A 231s Massey ferguson for many Years and Never had to work on it !!!!!!!
@carlosg1165
@carlosg1165 4 жыл бұрын
Great deal
@heavymetalmechanicX
@heavymetalmechanicX 4 жыл бұрын
I think he meant "float" when he said "draft control" when talking about the loader joystick.
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 4 жыл бұрын
Yep I did mean float with the joystick. A small oops lol.
@berksfirerescue
@berksfirerescue 4 жыл бұрын
Did you have to put money down to get the 23,500 price?
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 4 жыл бұрын
No luckily I didn't but I did it anyway for the sake of reducing my monthly payments.
@Brew-qp3hv
@Brew-qp3hv 4 жыл бұрын
John, thanks so much for the review. I too struggle with the same items as you mentioned. I keep going back to this tractor mostly because of the price difference. I hope you will give another review to see if you’re still enjoying the 1735, is it handling what you need out of this tractor. How much land do you brush hog? Also, a review on the tiller, I think you mentioned you’re getting a tiller. If so, how is it performing. I plan to purchase in the coming weeks a 20 acre farm with about half pasture. Thanks
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 4 жыл бұрын
I mainly use it on a 2 acre and 5 acre plot. I never got a tiller due to financial reasons so I can't say. I will give an updated review eventually. Thanks for watching.
@michaelridgeway2770
@michaelridgeway2770 5 жыл бұрын
Hello did you look at the yanmar yt235 34 hp with more lifting power
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I did compare them but the 1735M has almost 1000 lbs more of base weight than the YT235. Just because the Yanmar might lift 100lbs more in the FEL doesn’t mean it'll handle it better. Always consider tractor weight as a factor if your primary goal is loader work. Max lifting capacity is a relative factor in the grand scheme of things. Also my nearest Yanmar dealer was over an hour away so I decided against them anyways. It's always good to go with something that has a good dealer and close to you to back it up if possible.
@michaelridgeway2770
@michaelridgeway2770 5 жыл бұрын
That's great I am looking at the 1740m its about the same size
@gkk2001
@gkk2001 4 жыл бұрын
What a nice tractor particularly for the money. I am impressed and envious. Your going to love it if not already.
@darrelwilson2875
@darrelwilson2875 4 жыл бұрын
I have the same Tractor. One thing I noticed is that the drag control lever for the 3 point is very stiff. Hard to control height smoothly. Is yours stiff as well?
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I do agree it's very stiff. I thought it would work out but it hasn't yet.
@darrelwilson2875
@darrelwilson2875 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsRandomVids_US I just looked at the mechanism. Looks like a rubber washer separating a couple of hinge plates. It looks like the pivot bolt has a jam nut, so it may be just an adjustment. Some disassembly required to access it though. Otherwise. Such a sweet tractor. I love it.
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 4 жыл бұрын
@@darrelwilson2875 thanks I'll have to check that out later.
@johnsirca1648
@johnsirca1648 4 жыл бұрын
Where did you purchased the Massey F?
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 4 жыл бұрын
Hobo Tractor at Lake City, FL
@jon2564
@jon2564 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review.
@311hitwall
@311hitwall 5 жыл бұрын
Did you compare to LS?
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
I did compare them but the Massey still had more features than the LS provided. I don't know the price difference though. Since my closest LS dealer was an hour away, I ruled them out and didn't run quotes.
@heavymetalmechanicX
@heavymetalmechanicX 4 жыл бұрын
I considered LS, and ultimately choose the MF1740m. The LS dealer nearest my location looks like a scrap yard when you pull in the gate. Dilapidated buildings, and junk piled everywhere. Not the kind of place I want to rely on to service my brand new tractor. I also read about poor factory tech support, unavailable service manuals, and bad parts availability. I think the LS tractor is probably a fine machine, but until they get serious about their dealer network, I'm out.
@Canoe571
@Canoe571 2 жыл бұрын
I've had a Massey 1800 series for a week and it's a lemon. AGCO has failed miserably in taking care of the customer. Dealers? They're first priority, but as a customer, the AGCO HQ doesn't seem to give a rat's-A if you're satisfied with the product.
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 2 жыл бұрын
It's too bad that's happened. I feel like quality on everything diminished after covid and manufacturers are quick to blame it for poor quality control. A convenient excuse these days.
@arthurbradford5854
@arthurbradford5854 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice tractor! Do you know where it is manufactured?
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 4 жыл бұрын
My understanding is that they get the frame and some of the guts from Iseki in Japan then Massey puts the rest together at a US based plant. Usually Iseki tractors use their own Iseki engines but Massey opted to use Shibaura engines instead. So the 1700 series is like 60% Iseki with the rest being a mix. Not 100% sure on this thought.
@arthurbradford5854
@arthurbradford5854 4 жыл бұрын
John Smith Thanks. This tractor is really on my radar. For a while, I thought I wanted a green or orange one but now I’m leaning strongly towards the Massey.
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 4 жыл бұрын
@@arthurbradford5854 I definitely don't think you can go wrong with this one but, of course, always consider all of your options. Don't let my opinion contaminate your decision lol.
@valleytractorservices9310
@valleytractorservices9310 5 жыл бұрын
I think you're describing your position control when talking about draft control?
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
No it's literally called draft control. There's a second lever that can be added next to the 3 point position control, that's already there, called draft control. The empty slot is so it can be added.
@jamesbrayall8288
@jamesbrayall8288 3 жыл бұрын
looks like the fuel tank would get hit by sticks
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 3 жыл бұрын
It can but the plastic tank is very thick and if you pause the video at 3:41 you'll see it has a steel pan that protects the majority of the bottom from sticks and debris.
@cycletrash08
@cycletrash08 5 жыл бұрын
How much can the FEL pick up ?
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
It will lift 1660lbs at full height at the pivot pins. Full height is 106 inches.
@pmaint1
@pmaint1 Жыл бұрын
Why does it have a ECU if there's no Regen? Does it not have mechanical injection?
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US Жыл бұрын
I no longer have the tractor but if I remember correctly, it's electronically injected. Its ability to avoid a regen is due to its ability to be extremely efficient at burning the fuel which minimizes emissions. Precise fuel control for max burn = less soot.
@pmaint1
@pmaint1 Жыл бұрын
​​@@JohnsRandomVids_US Thanks for getting back to me.Any particular reason why you got rid of it Problems with it? Thanks
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US Жыл бұрын
@@pmaint1 No problems at all and I miss it. Essentially, most of the major reasons I bought it for evaporated and I couldn't justify the payments anymore.
@bee4pcgoldrule.007
@bee4pcgoldrule.007 3 жыл бұрын
The rabbit and turtle is found on Honda lawnmowers for ever.
@graysenwillis7370
@graysenwillis7370 5 жыл бұрын
Did you buy that from hobo tractor that is my family’s business if you did
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
If it's the Hobo Tractor in Lake City off FL238 then I most definitely did and I'm very happy with them.
@graysenwillis7370
@graysenwillis7370 5 жыл бұрын
John Smith yeah it is
@michaelridgeway2770
@michaelridgeway2770 5 жыл бұрын
Ha all the another' 1735m comes with a 72"
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 5 жыл бұрын
My dealer recommended it to me because he said the 72" increases the chances of the loads being overweight and he claims he saw a few crack a hydro line near the control valves from people using it repetitively overweighted. So I decided to take the safe route and take the 66. I don't regret it either because it's easier to maneuver it between narrow tree rows. The loader is a secondary purpose on my tractor but probably not for others. I probably would have gotten the 72" in any other case.
@michaelridgeway2770
@michaelridgeway2770 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsRandomVids_US ok but now all of them comes with a 72" now
@311hitwall
@311hitwall 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsRandomVids_US Seems like MF should be smart enough not to put a loader on the tractor that really shouldn't be on the tractor.
@waylonmccrae3546
@waylonmccrae3546 Жыл бұрын
3 Words ...... Trade For Yanmar !! 😏
@JohnBraman413
@JohnBraman413 Ай бұрын
bullshit
@drizler
@drizler 4 жыл бұрын
If you do any brush moving that rod bucket position indicator WILL get ripped loose and bent I promise you. I’ve had mine off twice to straighten the thing on my 1736. You can’t get that rod off easily on mine either to straighten it. Those rear lights LOVE to get ripped off mowing near hedge rows🥺. I cut mine off the ROPS And reversed them to the inside because I got sick of gluing them back together. I really wish they were removable with a QD plug
@JohnsRandomVids_US
@JohnsRandomVids_US 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on both counts. I have lost the bolt that holds my leveler on somewhere in a field while mowing and I have had to bend my work lights back a few times from hitting low hanging branches.
@drizler
@drizler 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnsRandomVids_US As for that leveling rod it’s wrapped around the mount do you can’t remove it easily. One thing you can do so it will is cut it and weld the ends of a turnbuckle to the ends then screw them together keeping the length about the same. Just be sure nothing will bind on the turnbuckle as it goes up and down like the bottom of the pipe. It also can’t dangle down when removed and bind on the mounting arm. It’s a lot less complicated than it sounds when you’re looking at it. In the end I just take mine off now when I’m in the brush which saves me having to bend that damn thing back into shape after it got turned into a pretzel.
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