This song is dangerously underrated, it's so beautifully put together... truly one for the history books.
@melaniemessina46554 жыл бұрын
I love it
@sergiosantini16934 жыл бұрын
Nothing to add. Perfect description. I Just add in My opinion what an influence Ennio Morricone is to this mastepiece...
@anapaulacarneiro41754 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Echoes from Morricone.
@michealcurrie82723 жыл бұрын
Never was underrated in some circle's.
@Monotony6192 жыл бұрын
@Sergio Santini ohhh how so? Like the clock music from a few dollars more (I think that’s the second one right)
@tsssss27542 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most beautiful guitar solos I've ever heard. It conveys the feeling of complete and utter anger, as well as despair. it starts off angry, and raging. Then it descends into a fit of "screaming" like a years worth of anger has just been released, and then it calms, the anger vanishing, only the feeling of sadness remains
@anapaulacarneiro41752 жыл бұрын
Perfect description!
@alexjewell23512 жыл бұрын
Given the subject matter of the song, the event and the person that the song is based on. You've just given a perfect analogy.
@crawford10832 жыл бұрын
It's Peter Hook's melodic bass that I love like all of Joy Div/New Order stuff. But Bernard's guitar from 10.00 or so is just nerve-tingling!
@thepicardmaneuver56813 жыл бұрын
IMO this is their best song. This song reaches down to the bottom of my soul, no words and yet the pain etched in this song is just breath taking. Each band member shining at each part. Each layer and level of the song pulls me through leaving me to wonder where the time went
@Monotony6192 жыл бұрын
Awesome name brother.
@laabgbbs12 жыл бұрын
man its really not that deep
@MrPomelo5552 жыл бұрын
@@laabgbbs1 True. It’s deeper.
@Tristamus2 жыл бұрын
@@laabgbbs1 the band wrote this song for Ian after Ian Curtis killed himself so yeah, actually I'd say it is pretty deep.
@Madara89892 жыл бұрын
@@laabgbbs1 There's always the one dipshit who reads everything at face value and replies to someone's expression of their interpretation of a work of art with "it's really not that deep," when the reality is that they only have the shallowest of reads on the work themselves.
@TotalTech_4 жыл бұрын
"What do you think about the new album?" - "It terrifies me." "Why is that?" -"Because....i think Ian means the things he sings about."
There is no feeling like finishing a timed exam with 20 minutes left while listening to this as you race to finish it in time. Truly an experience like no other.
@BenniRoR5 жыл бұрын
Oh, I can imagine. I listen to New Order all the time when I work on stuff for university.
@lucasvg98224 жыл бұрын
you are allowed to listen to music while taking an exam??
@imogenpinelli8504 жыл бұрын
@@lucasvg9822 yeah what the heck I wish, my grades would be off the charts if i was allowed to bring this inspiration bank with me
@melaniemessina46554 жыл бұрын
I thought it to come from the word Eulogy. One that is both uplifting and them still sad. However, when I look up the meaning of the word I'm not so sure. However it is in a key that is often sad. I also liked the remix in the movie Pretty in Pink . I too am in a meditative trance while listening
@truefunksoul86382 жыл бұрын
@@melaniemessina4655 It is Greek for 'elegy'.
@videogamerwolf2 жыл бұрын
As a young man. This musical masterpiece, without words and through instrumentals only, in 17 min it has conveyed more emotion and meaning in such a powerful and poignant form, then most other bands could or ever have created over the last 23 years of my life. I'm very happy that I was introduced to this. This is a timeless song. If I ever have children, this is a song I need to pass on.
@busterabcat4 жыл бұрын
This great New Order album is already 35 years old this year!!! My biggest dream would be to have this full version of Elegia finally issued on vinyl in its complete length. As part of a special 'Low Life (Deluxe Redux)' Edition!! Which effectively means re-releasing this on DOUBLE LP in a newly re-configured GATEFOLD sleeve (complete with clear acetate plastic sheath outer with the LP title and song titles to reflect the original Factory issue) - with the photos of the band on the four panels (Peter and Bernard in the centrefold of course). Then have new inner sleeves with the credits on one sleeve and the same liner notes as the 2CD remastered releases from 2008/2009 on the other sleeve. Then, here's the best bit, the tracks can be split as follows: RECORD ONE Side A: Love Vigilantes (4.20) - remastered The Perfect Kiss (8.50) - remastered full length 12" version Side B: This Time Of Night (alternate longer version) (5.43) - remastered Sunrise (6.01) - remastered RECORD TWO Side C: Elegia (full length) (17.29) - remastered Side D: Sooner Than You Think (5.12) - remastered Sub-Culture (4.57) - remastered Face Up (5.09) - remastered Extended running time now around 57 minutes in total. Can you imagine how wonderful that would be if this was a reality?
@BenniRoR4 жыл бұрын
As a New Order fan I can damn well understand the feeling of longing for something that will most likely never be. As such I can only say one thing: Dreams Never End!
@SpittingMage4 жыл бұрын
you MUST remind me how old I am???? Peace :)
@iamyourfuture8082 жыл бұрын
FFS, dont give em any more ideas they're already rinsing the back catalogue for all its worth
@JamboUK Жыл бұрын
On its way.
@steve40092 Жыл бұрын
subculture has to be original version, not substance version
@Dystopian_NZ4 ай бұрын
The haunting beginning, the middle crescendo and then tapering off again and all as an instrumental. Guess one couldn't really put words to this masterpiece and one should never change perfection.
@markdallen5423 жыл бұрын
This full length version is haunting, mesmerising, a little raw and makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. Makes me feel a little sad as well. Can’t think of any other song that does this.
@BenniRoR3 жыл бұрын
This is by far the most unique song they ever created. New Order have such a varied back catalogue of songs. You've got pop songs like Bizarre Love Triangle, incredibly bleak and grim songs like I.C.B. and super unique stuff like Elegia or The Perfect Kiss.
@glenjanssens7203 жыл бұрын
@Mark, you can check out Pink Floyd in their early years, its kind of the same vibe
@markdallen5423 жыл бұрын
@@glenjanssens720 Thanks for this, will check this out 👍
@idiotwhoedits35223 жыл бұрын
East Hastings by Godspeed You Black Emperor
@clown33613 жыл бұрын
@@BenniRoR not only is this the most unique song they have made it’s probably one of the most unique, beautiful, sad, mesmerizing song ever made
@josiahprofenno41366 жыл бұрын
Ian, forever.
@BenniRoR6 жыл бұрын
Ian Curtis is a legend. As long as music exists, Ian will never be forgotten.
@ollip714 жыл бұрын
The Holy Mother of synthwave
@jubayerwasidraiyan58744 жыл бұрын
fun thing about it is, that it was made in 1985 so it's actually not synthwave, lel
@georgejpg4 жыл бұрын
@@jubayerwasidraiyan5874 Hence 'mother of'. New order is central to the roots of modern synthwave.
@atlasking61103 жыл бұрын
One of them. Space-Age Love Song too.
@shrekworshiper49653 жыл бұрын
@@jubayerwasidraiyan5874 actually first synth was made in 1955
@thehonorablereverendaddiso19435 жыл бұрын
I was born in a small village I was still a child when we were raided by soldiers Foreign soldiers Torn from my elders I was made to speak their language With each new post, my master's changed Along with the words they made me speak With each change, I change too My thoughts, personality, how I saw right and wrong Words can kill
@kaktotak82675 жыл бұрын
What is this and what does it have to do with the song?
@eclipticopossum88175 жыл бұрын
Kakto Tak, It’s Skull Face's monologue from the game Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
@thehonorablereverendaddiso19435 жыл бұрын
@@eclipticopossum8817 It was posted on a lyrics site, so I posted it.....
@mro94665 жыл бұрын
why are we here ? just to suffer ?
@ravennite83194 жыл бұрын
@@mro9466 Without suffering there can be no compassion. You cannot have the good without the bad. It's not an easy answer but it's the only one that makes sense. It's the ying and the yang of life.
@philbo-ns Жыл бұрын
.. it's like when you were 15 and hearing this for the very first time ... the tears are real ...
@jackmorino12042 жыл бұрын
New order in the studio like: yeah this is the greatest piece of music ever created, don’t drop it
@siriusql2 жыл бұрын
Must have been so heavy to carry that back to the recordings sessions
@andresmontesdeocafosado80994 жыл бұрын
im here after completing the MGSV at 100% and i feel, it´s no over yet . a beutiful song, thanks for uploading
@BenniRoR4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@mohi6712 жыл бұрын
happy to see my mgsv soldiers still here :)
@Unmei_Ka2 жыл бұрын
@@mohi671 The Diamond Dogs will always be around because we don't have any borders.
@mitchroid Жыл бұрын
this song still makes me sob profusely every time. the emotions are just so palpable. i cant help but feel the anguish and despair.
@leeashford22592 жыл бұрын
This song sounds like how I’d imagine Ian Curtis to be. Some real dark parts some uplifting and a sense of danger about it
@cblades20025 жыл бұрын
Masterpiece.
@hollyanaya40354 жыл бұрын
Perfection at it's finest..this hauntingly beautiful melonchy instrumental masterpiece . this song says so much without even uttering a word. Really powerful.
@gingerbreadman3513 жыл бұрын
This song will always have a special place in my heart. It's the type of song that takes you away from this world.
@sassygirl4728 Жыл бұрын
It actually puts me right in it. That's the scary part for me.
@Cystlib3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of Mike Oldfield a lot. Beautiful song, my favourite by New Order
@crawford10832 жыл бұрын
It is very Mike Oldfield.
@mro94665 жыл бұрын
nothing can touch this song
@falcoquroni13714 жыл бұрын
Nothing in THIS world...
@mvvagner4 жыл бұрын
At the age of 13, this was one of the first songs I fell in love with. Now I'm 30 and I still love this song. Just beautiful.
@hrkn17353 жыл бұрын
Dude you made me feel old 😐
@leeherring88802 жыл бұрын
Same with me and 'Regret' when I first heard it....
@DavidHornblow7 ай бұрын
@@leeherring8880 everythings gone green for me ....I'm 56
@ANTONYTHEDRAWINGMAN4 жыл бұрын
this track is so haunting to me....i get goosebumps listening to it....every time.
@crawford10832 жыл бұрын
40 years on and it still has the power!
@mbeenz2 жыл бұрын
Wow August 4 2022 and this The First time I’ve Heard this Brilliant Song!!!!, Stellar!!!! ManyThanx From So Cal!!!!
@wiggle46054 жыл бұрын
I have always loved this song. Currently laying here in the pouring rain listening to this never has a song fired a moment so well
@Toni-zk9rx2 жыл бұрын
No words, yet it expresses more than any novel. Few instruments, yet it capable of reaching so many tones. This song is perfect in a minimalistic kind of way- it captures a profound set of feelings that we have all felt at least once in our lifetime: hate, despair, anger, rage, consolation, acceptance... and emotionally throws them all up in the air for us to discover ourselves. This work is a masterpiece of it's own and it reminds me of some of the most melancholic moments of my life, whom I was able to finally reconcile with thanks to this song. Thank you for that, new order. Always in my heart.
@michaelwilkinson33534 жыл бұрын
A great ride through the notes that come alive, it has belongs my collection from the start.
@michaelwilkinson33534 жыл бұрын
Belonged
@danidimitrov38264 жыл бұрын
this is so emotionally overwhelming, just couldn't help but cry
@fr3fou4 жыл бұрын
💓
@bigb0ss2823 жыл бұрын
bubu gugudada
@tee-ellesea11854 жыл бұрын
Always brings me back to a really dark time of my life, but I wouldn't have it any other way. #memories
@yyyy19904 жыл бұрын
This is quality music.
@TotalTech_5 жыл бұрын
Ian forever MGSV forever Diamond Dog's forever
@juanitojaime45535 жыл бұрын
Ian was not in this band.
@g0rdonfreeman15 жыл бұрын
@@juanitojaime4553The song was written by New Order in memory of Ian Curtis
@juanitojaime45535 жыл бұрын
@@g0rdonfreeman1 Thanks so much of explaining. It's strange how much this stuff doesn't translate to the US. I had no idea.
@marcusaurelius98194 жыл бұрын
I was and always will be, to be or not to be. Mark John Elegia
@melaniemessina46554 жыл бұрын
@@juanitojaime4553 So was he in a prior band with any of them?
@pamelagold89253 жыл бұрын
This song is so hauntingly beautiful! Reminds me of my teenage years in the 80's getting ready to go out with my friends or a date. So meloncholy😢
@Dystopian_NZ4 ай бұрын
@pamelagold8925 I can totally relate to your comment!
@edwinbeusink4579 Жыл бұрын
Forever a beautiful song.
@simplysteve41525 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the upload! Love this song!
@BenniRoR5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment! And yes, the song is magnificent.
@JSheerXeno543 жыл бұрын
The disturbing events surrounding the Funeral of Will Byers. the scene this was in got me very emotional. with both this song and the scene it was used in.
@who70633 жыл бұрын
No.
@JSheerXeno543 жыл бұрын
@@who7063 no?
@dogboy09122 жыл бұрын
In college, I used to do calisthenics in my garage / room to this song. I remember hearing it from the MGSV 2015 red band trailer. There is such poignant desperation in this song. Doing all those push-ups, sit-ups, planks, etc., it felt as if my life or somebody else's would depend on it someday.
@mynameisnobody4544 жыл бұрын
This is so cool, never gets old
@crayons18783 сағат бұрын
First heard this song as a lairy 17 /18 year old after one of those nights out at about 5 am Within a minute the conversations stopped as we each retreated into our own thoughts and memories of the night. 40 years later and this song still holds a powerful place for me
@davidzentao3 жыл бұрын
a thought for all best friends, died too early, memories full of our hearts and melancholy
@nightmare-nightmarenightma11472 жыл бұрын
I'm loving the longer version
@tickedoffnow3 жыл бұрын
This is so sad and haunting It's Beautiful 🙏😭♥️
@metaignorante15 жыл бұрын
masterpiece
@crawford10832 жыл бұрын
Peter Hook's bass! Love it! All his music, from JD to NO to The Light to Monaco, has his melodic use of bass. brilliant.
@DrVaticinator4 жыл бұрын
Long live Ian 😪.
@davekenny8774 Жыл бұрын
Elegia for one of the greatest songwriters we have ever had . You don't need to understand it. You don't need to know where it comes from. Just accept it.
@wendybarrett63093 жыл бұрын
Melvyn Bragg did a documentary about Truman Capote, I can't remember when, but this track was played and it was utterly perfect. Absolutely haunting.
@SpoonyMcSpoonface4 жыл бұрын
It's like the journey to Heaven!
@chaseduvall30814 жыл бұрын
Into Outer Heaven
@stephenglarvey74852 жыл бұрын
4:59 I find that tone so epic the background part of it
@Leuka_2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could listen to this song forever...
@Dystopian_NZ4 ай бұрын
Having this on infinite repeat while tucked up watching the pouring rain outside. The perfect companions.
@davidtoma73193 жыл бұрын
I believe the molecular structure of my body has been changed after listeing to this masterpiece.
@ANKET473 жыл бұрын
Nobody cares. The universe is indifferent
@truefunksoul86382 жыл бұрын
@@ANKET47 Says the guy caring to reply while pretending to be indifferent
@kathrynhumphreys15482 жыл бұрын
❤same,amazing!
@davidtoma73192 жыл бұрын
@@truefunksoul8638 Well said.
@detlefeilers55312 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Ian 😥
@monikanikolova46044 жыл бұрын
This song makes you feel nostalgic. Like im somewhere in the 80's at a arcade hanging out with a curly haired kid in short khakis.
@BenniRoR4 жыл бұрын
That sounds very familiar.
@atlasking61103 жыл бұрын
This was Post-Rock before Post-Rock. So, Pre-Post-Rock. I think I just hurt my brain.
@steve40092 Жыл бұрын
bliss, amazing track
@stanzi19702 жыл бұрын
Einfach fett geil, geil fett ❤️. Musikgenuss pur.
@darthtalon21553 жыл бұрын
This song haunts me
@DrVaticinator4 жыл бұрын
This song reminds me of Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield. Love it!
@leeherring88802 жыл бұрын
Never spotted that, but you make a good point....
@Madara89892 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute... you mean to tell me that not only was Tubular Bells not originally written to be the theme song for The Exorcist, but was also written by Mike Oldfield... who wrote and performed "Nuclear" in the 2014 E3 trailer for MGSV (notable as Elegia was featured in the 2015 E3 trailer for the same game).
@meditationrooms44784 жыл бұрын
perfect as you can get
@MartinSchellmoser2 жыл бұрын
A true epic in its full length. 🤘
@batcat4eternityfanfics559 Жыл бұрын
Masterpiece ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
@Tristamus2 жыл бұрын
A very powerful song...
@monikanikolova46044 жыл бұрын
Wow just wow
@philcurry49592 жыл бұрын
My best friend killed himself, and considering the history of this particular song, I've never found anything that so perfectly embodies the sense of mourning and grief I still feel every day.
@ANKET472 жыл бұрын
I can relate to your friend. I feel the same.
@Radiofred3 жыл бұрын
I'll never forget the time I heard this on a EastEnders episode.
@pauliedibbs90283 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!!!!! 🖤❤🖤
@aliasallison3432 жыл бұрын
Time travel almost 40 years. How can that be? I am eternal.
@filipehenrique64523 жыл бұрын
my dog died today I'm here for him rest in peace my best friend
@darthtalon21553 жыл бұрын
Its the worst pain
@TheChillSound3 жыл бұрын
RIP dog 😓🙏
@chad2643 жыл бұрын
rip
@anapaulacarneiro41753 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your lost
@markmiles1763 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here choosing music for my funeral and this has to be in it... it's hard when you feel so disconnected from everything to bathe in this and know that it is so close to your soon to be destroyed life but nobody else can feel that. Human life is overrated, but sometimes these musical moments are side by side with the despair and pointlessness we feel. As we head towards the end this shows us the way and expresses our pain
@BenniRoR3 жыл бұрын
Why do you want to end your life?
@markmiles1763 жыл бұрын
@@BenniRoR because I'm tired of making a mess of everything in my life, and hurting everyone who has ever loved me. I'm just no good and I never really have been. Have blamed everyone else for my problems and mistakes when it was always just me. Now I'm alone and life has no point or meaning
@michaelhoolihan58493 жыл бұрын
Well I for one, Mark, am here to say, that, if nowt else, you express yourself rather elegantly and seem to have found an brutal, intimate honesty that is to be admired. Both, reasonable starting points from which to continue. You also have an ear for great music...
@michaelhoolihan58493 жыл бұрын
Maybe have a listen to Procol Harum - Crucifiction Lane
@KEV180Y2 жыл бұрын
DONT DO IT!
@BJay-it3mb4 жыл бұрын
Was kann mann mehr machen ? Wahnsinn .
@alternativefm3285 жыл бұрын
Ended TM&Erics Show Purealternative FM tonight
@pavement4222 жыл бұрын
If this isn't played at my funeral I'm not going.
@kathrynhumphreys15482 жыл бұрын
😆😆
@ginamiller16607 ай бұрын
😊
@cinderclawz Жыл бұрын
Matt just played this on darkwave. Sirius XM Sunday nights.
@jesimina34654 жыл бұрын
I love this :)
@chillibeef99472 жыл бұрын
Metal Gear Solid 5 brought me here, beautiful record
@joegarcia41572 жыл бұрын
Touched my soul since 1985
@bastiurtubia63572 жыл бұрын
I feel joy division vibes in this song, its nostalgic and dangerous
@theglorymill2 жыл бұрын
Obviously as it’s a tribute to Ian
@SavSci4 жыл бұрын
Fate's finality. Ties die.
@sweetnuthin3 жыл бұрын
Madlad puts an ad in the middle of a new order song
@BenniRoR3 жыл бұрын
I didn't set any ads on any of my videos. In November 20 KZbin changed their ad policy. Every video on the platform is now required to have at least one advertisement, most of the time even two ads. Uploaders have no say in this whatsoever, not even if you are partnered, which I was a while ago. So in short, blame KZbin for the ads, not me. If I had anything to say about this I would remove all ads on my videos. But sadly I can't. Just use an adblocker, the bastards at Google don't deserve one penny of ad revenue.
@nitishaggarwal37392 жыл бұрын
This song truly fits into the phantom pain's dark tone
@Traxxaslopeza1743 жыл бұрын
A godlike music.
@LeonWick5263 жыл бұрын
This sounds like Spaghetti Western final showdown music 80's style.
@anapaulacarneiro41753 жыл бұрын
It's because one of Peter Hook' s influences are the Enio Morricone's music.
@MrSilverio132 жыл бұрын
I was born in a small village
@gladysogle84955 жыл бұрын
Isn't it something that the comments we leave are chosen as to or not to be sent or posted. Someone must not like the truth posted huh?
@BenniRoR5 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what you are talking about. I didn't delete anything in the comment section, if you want to imply that.
@ikiyes50633 жыл бұрын
Pain after pain and still waiting for more pain
@westingtyler1 Жыл бұрын
galaxy tier song
@pavma73 ай бұрын
Is there a vinyl of thr full version
@DanielRamos-ys9dy Жыл бұрын
Anyone here saw the short film "MORE" from Mark Osborne? Must see, plus this is the soundtrack.
@laurentsauvagnac Жыл бұрын
IMHO the most Joy Division one from N.O
@patrickmulvaney72622 жыл бұрын
I may have gott some of my spelling wrong but you know what I mean mlm
@keydoh48702 жыл бұрын
Soundtrack of a dystopian spaghetti western
@dr9465 Жыл бұрын
Someone re-post this without the advert break please
@BenniRoR Жыл бұрын
It's not part of the video. Go get an ad blocker like any sensible person.
@sartanko2 жыл бұрын
Why cant you play this on spotify?
@BenniRoR2 жыл бұрын
Because streaming services suck. CD forever!
@azza6523 жыл бұрын
I was spoilt listening to Joy Division/New Order as a kid from Manchester, but for some reason this track just grips me.......
@chiarasanmarco792 жыл бұрын
It was written for Ian Curtis
@mariograss91434 жыл бұрын
Pięknie smutny...
@Adwin_stuff2 жыл бұрын
2:26 Is the best part
@marcusaurelius98194 жыл бұрын
Mark was here "2020"
@hinder_epoch44404 жыл бұрын
Other than in Pretty in Pink, was this in other films and TV shows?
@BenniRoR4 жыл бұрын
Stranger Things. And if you include video games (don't know if those are your thing) a couple of Joy Division and New Order songs were included in several works of Hideo Kojima who often stated that he is a huge fan of both bands. In fact this very song here was used in a trailer for Metal Gear Solid V. Never played the game, but the trailer was awesome.
@hinder_epoch44404 жыл бұрын
I love games! Been playing since 89! You know. I never noticed that he had them in his games. Gonna have to do some digging. Knew this song sounded oddly familiar!
@TombomOfficial3 жыл бұрын
According to wikipedia: "The album version of the song was featured in the Academy Award-nominated short film More by Mark Osborne, the film Pretty in Pink, the trailer for the 1992 film Night of the Living Dead, and the CSI: Crime Scene Investigation episode "Compulsion". It was also used in an American Masters documentary about writer Truman Capote, in the fifth episode of the first season of the Netflix series Stranger Things, as well as in "Rust" - a black-and-white music video by Nenko Genov and for the E3 2015 trailer of the video game Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain. In 2020 the song appeared in season 4 of Netflix's The Crown in the episode titled The Heredity Principle."
@petervandyk71732 жыл бұрын
"Deadly class". Believe it's in episode 2.
@stephenglarvey74852 жыл бұрын
Epic Song, but can be a little repetitive, So I would warn anyone to only listen to this once every so often, as I made the mistake of having it on repeat and It has taken about 2 years to like it again, but other songs which I find can relate to this, melody only epic songs: Clubbed to death The doors - Light my fire Neil young - Cowgirl in the sand / Southern Man
@truefunksoul86382 жыл бұрын
Come on man Light My Fire is painfully repetitive and we've all heard it a million times. You might like My Father, My King by Mogwai which probably ticks those boxes, or I Offered It Up To The Stars & The Night Sky by Dirty Three. Both bands would have lots of contenders, but those two songs are the longest ones I could think of, both are all instrumental.
@alexjewell23512 жыл бұрын
I think you're right. The 5 minute version is all you need really.