New Revised MTM PF22.2 | Wide Neck Bottle | Convert Your Old One Easily

[@CarsWithKeav]

Clean Garage raised the price on the bottle from the $12.95 I bought it at to $15.95

[@davidbram]

They do that crap all the time. They also remove and block reviews.

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@davidbram I have heard of some fishy stuff. First time I ever bought from them as they were the only one with the bottle at the time. I would have bought from Josh if it was available at the time.

[@AlexDetails]

And they have sold old, congealed, and chunky products that must have sat in the warehouse for eons (tried to pass it off as normal). They made me go to the manufacturer myself to get a replacement (who did it right away and acknowledged it was bad). Way to stand behind what they sell... shop elsewhere.

[@Jonathan-pr1wo]

@@AlexDetailsI’ve ordered some things from them but never would’ve imagined that. I guess I got lucky when I bought from them the few times I did.

[@AlexDetails]

@@Jonathan-pr1wo I used to buy a lot from them until that happened. Good selection and decent fulfillment. Just poor support when required, in my personal experience. YMMV.

[@Mr.SparkleOG]

The goat keav Always coming in with the sick money saving videos.

[@CarsWithKeav]

Appreciate that!

[@IamDetailedAF]

Everyone pay attention to this man. He goes in depth and is ALWAYS honest about products he reviews. Keep up amazong work my friend 🔥🔥🔥... STOP THE HYPE!!!

[@maryhoffman2547]

Right! I have been watching him for a year and a half. I love his reviews. And definitely his bloopers!

[@IamDetailedAF]

@@maryhoffman2547 Bloopers are my favorite! 🤣🤣🤣

[@CarsWithKeav]

Appreciate the love bro!

[@CarsWithKeav]

Thank you both for watching we fixing to spend big money on reviews. It’s going to get stressful. 🤣

[@CarsWithKeav]

Mine too! 🤣

[@Tanner_Teves]

That build quality is abysmal for the price they’re charging. I still believe the MJJC S V3.0 is the best on the market. It’s super expensive yes, but the build and fit and finish on it is fantastic. Gives me super thick foam even with my little dinky craftsman pressure washer

[@CarsWithKeav]

MJJC is far and beyond better to me just more thought was put into it with the quick release. Many think the clear bottle is an issue, but mine has been great for over a year now.

[@RICARD01]

Thanks, as always, for what you do, Keav. I love watching your stuff. Very natural. Easy to watch/enjoy! 😎😎😎🍺🍺🍺

[@CarsWithKeav]

Appreciate that!

[@detailit]

So, Keav, thanks for your take. A lot of us ask you questions and you Always have an answer. Appreciated! My take on this is its a Great way to answer those of us that Absolutely Love the 1/4 turn lid that the V3 bottle brought to market. It's also a nice way to give EVERYONE a wide Mouth Bottle (which we have ALL been wanting) and NOT ostracize those of us that have the Original Head with the small neck. I think MTM can clean this up a Tad, and they are fine. Only 1 thing left for them to add, which you pointed out, the flex straw and weighted ball. Overall, I Love this design because if they redo their entire cannon I HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER ONE and so will tens of thousands of current MTM owners. It's still the BEST CANNON OUT THERE in my opinion (yes the plug should be stainless though). Best controls, smooth, just a pleasure to use! Funny, I'm usually Mr. Negative and on this one I'm not... Glad I can ALWAYS be that guy😂... Take 'R easy Keav!

[@CarsWithKeav]

If you have a previous pf22.2 it’s a no brainer just I expected a more thought out design. This will not hold up over time IMO. The plastic tabs will get worn out. The V3 1/4 turn is so far ahead in its design and how it works it just makes this look cheap and they did as little as possible with no effort. Still have a zinc quick connect and not adding the weighted ball to the kit shows they don’t care. Pf22.2 is a great foam cannon and in this industry there is a lot of brand loyalty for sure. We can both say MJJC and MTM are the two best foam cannon products out there. From a business standpoint I mean they have little invested here and didn’t have to change much manufacturing wise with the molds so it’s a no brainer to get another added value purchase from every previous owner. Problem is MTM is so late to these things they won’t clean it up for at least two years. Probably will be the 4th bottle revision to buy. 🤣

[@detailit]

@CarsWithKeav even though the V3 is better built, I was thinking Long ago it would wear quicker than a traditional cannon... I may be wrong on that. Time will be the true test. Hey, I got the new mtm wide mouth directly from MTM under $7.00.....with the adaptor... hope this helps someone

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@detailit You got a link? I don’t see it on their site just the 3 pack of bottles for $20. Don’t see any adapters.

[@detailit]

@CarsWithKeav no sir. What I was told, when you buy the bottle, the adaptor is included.. That's how I purchased it... I bought the bottle and it came with the adaptor . MTM direct

[@johng753]

Thanks for informing the community about this new product. I have an older PF22 foam cannon and I will enjoy using this new wide mouth bottle.

[@CarsWithKeav]

Wide neck is always a great upgrade. If you have an old pf22.2 it’s a no brainer.

[@maryhoffman2547]

Omgezzus, the last blooper, had me dying! 😂 Thank you for your review!

[@CarsWithKeav]

Showing how difficult the old bottle worked was literally just me not thinking and was all by mistake, but ended up being a good thing in the end. 🤣

[@TRINInDC925]

Not that I had one of the older model but this quality seem like it could be much better for the wide conversion add on. Good to know, thanks for the info.

[@CarsWithKeav]

They could have done a lot more. They got lazy on this one.

[@aaron30569]

Good! Always said to go wide mouth all you need is an adapter lid. I'd say leave it in the sun for a bit to break it in

[@CarsWithKeav]

That’s a good idea. Just wish it was easier. Worries me over time these tabs will ear out.

[@jholland9952]

Unacceptable, Mtm. Thank you for the good and honest review! I’m patiently holding out for the mjjc pro v3. Hopefully not too much longer

[@CarsWithKeav]

Can’t wait for the Pro V3 they have been silent about it though. Active coming out with a promising foam cannon as well that I had some input on.

[@GMDetails]

Nice to see MTM changing to the wide mouth style and I agree with you it really should have a stainless QC , over in the UK we don’t have anyone stocking the adaptable bottle yet, it certainly would be something I’d do before forking out £70 for a new (same) lance as before , the fittings look horrendously bad though having to take a knife to make it fit, that’s bad design , great video 👍

[@CarsWithKeav]

Yeah, it’s a good change just execution wasn’t quite there. I think they sourced this out and was not from Italy.

[@at1533]

Very informative. I own mjjc pro v12 with d12 nilfisk adapter (very expensive adapter) for approximately 80. Could not be happier

[@CarsWithKeav]

You can’t go wrong with an MJJC and they have so many adapters as well which is nice too!

[@kaila.s]

Very thorough review. Thank you!

[@CarsWithKeav]

You’re Welcome!

[@functionaldoc5054]

Keav what size O ring did you use on the top? I wish they would sell the weighted ball for the straw.

[@CarsWithKeav]

You can get weighted balls and straws on Amazon pretty cheap. amzn.to/49rs1YY I’ll have to check the size it was a random I found in my drawer of o-rings.

[@Ally.MacMillan]

Many thanks for sharing, I was fairly pleased when I saw the PF22.3 released, albeit only one UK seller and quite overpriced IMO. I have two PF22.2 (two different fittings for two different guns) and had hoped the 22.3 bottle and weighted tube would be made available on their own, but nothing on the market as yet over here that I can see. I do love the foam lances themselves, they are probably my favourite. The wide lid securing doesn’t look great at all does it? Great, honest informative video 👍

[@CarsWithKeav]

It’s not the best, but it’s an improvement over the older bottle for sure. They should have included the weighted ball at the least, but normally there are reasonable priced ones on Amazon.

[@slyarsenal]

PLEASE HELP - I have a Jet USA RX550 3500PSI pressure washer. I bought an upgraded hose which came with quick connect attachments in m22 14mm size. The pressure washer unit has a fixed male end thread which I wrapped in teflon tape to prevent leaking. The m22 14mm quick connect fits over this male thread, but still leaks. I've checked the O-ring and tightened the quick connect as hard as I can muster. It still leaks! Does this mean the male thread from the pressure washer requires an m22 15mm (female) quick connect that has an m22 14mm male end? I have bad eyes and don't have a measuring tool to determine inner diameter of the connector on the original hose. I tried contacting Edisons who own Jet USA for more information, but they asked for a receipt for prove of purchase but I can't find the darn thing. You're my only hope. Please help an old fellow!

[@CarsWithKeav]

If the m22 14mm fits and it’s hand tight, but still leaks then it’s a 15mm for sure. 15mm female to 14mm male adapter is needed. You should never need Teflon with an m22 fitting. amzn.to/3US3pE8

[@slyarsenal]

@CarsWithKeav Thanks mate. I opted to go with an m22 15mm female to 3/8" quick connect to minimise the join. I'm using the male end of 3/8" quick connect on the hose to plug into this adaptor and the other end of the hose has a female 3/8" quick connect for my Active short gun. Really appreciate your quick response and assistance

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@slyarsenal Even better choice! Quick connects are so much better. Glad to help!

[@TheManMiscellaneous]

You think those Flexible Silicone Travel Straws they sell at Dollar Tree is a better upgrade than the Straw that the MTM came with and those Foam Cannons with the hard Plastic Straw? I saw those Silicone Travel Straws at the checkout area and was curious, so I bought from to try on my MJJC Pro v2.0. Believe it or not, the straw fits perfectly.

[@CarsWithKeav]

As long as they are chemical resistant I don’t see why they wouldn’t work. As long as it can stay attached to the manifold and weighted ball. Anything is better than the straw that comes with the MTM. The MJJC straws are way better and usually cut the right length.

[@faridruiz8308]

Sooooo MJJC all the way up?

[@CarsWithKeav]

MJJC is my favorite

[@faridruiz8308]

thanks for your ideos, im from Mexico so we don't have all the products like you so all this videos help us a lot @@CarsWithKeav

[@archiepezek]

Thanks for the video Keav. I'll keep my MJJC V2.

[@CarsWithKeav]

Good idea!

[@Auto-Bots.Custom.Detailing]

I’m guessing you can’t use the pf 22.2 head with the new bottle?

[@CarsWithKeav]

Old pf22.2 head screws right onto the new bottle lid so you just need to buy the bottle and cap.

[@seken2nun]

Who’s the competitor to the MTM PF22.2 foam cannon or which other brands are in close proximity of the foam output ???

[@CarsWithKeav]

MJJC would be superior in my opinion and Griots would be close in quality, but their foam production isn’t as good.

[@RCdetails203]

Does the new wide mouth come with the weighted ball if you order directly from Mtm?? It doesn’t show the weighted ball in the contents of the kit only clean garage shows the weighted ball?

[@CarsWithKeav]

Weighted ball comes if you buy the whole pf22.2 foam cannon. If you get just the bottle then it does not come with the weighted ball.

[@RCdetails203]

@@CarsWithKeav thanks…ya I’m getting the whole thing and want to order from mtm since it’s free shipping but want to make sure I get the weighted ball

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@RCdetails203 You should get it. It’s part of the whole new package now. That is where I got mine direct with free shipping.

[@RCdetails203]

@@CarsWithKeav appreciate the quick response man!

[@eric_blouin]

Thanks for this review.

[@CarsWithKeav]

You’re Welcome

[@JohnD15317]

Thank you for the vid Keav. I’ll purchase the upgrade for my current pf22. So the stiff filler tube, run under hot water? For how long? This would be a game changer for me being 2 of my cannons have the stiff filler tubes lol

[@CarsWithKeav]

Yeah, hot water from the sink soak in it for awhile. You can even try boiling water. This is how you straighten out clear tubing that wants to stay rolled up. Makes it easier to get the weighted ball on as well. Soak for a few minutes. If you place at room temp should stay somewhat flexible, but colder temps it will stiffen back up.

[@JohnD15317]

@@CarsWithKeav thank you sir, will give it a try 👍

[@Enthusiast_detailing]

I at least thought they’d fix the zinc quick connect 💀

[@CarsWithKeav]

Me too!

[@miguelmigkustomz9010]

There is definitely a little more to be desired about the new bottle. I honestly dont have much of a problem with the OG small neck. I have a bottle fill funnel that fits on it so its easy. And in regards to the manufold if it aint broke dont fix it.. everything is good quality where it needs to be and MTM knows that quick connects are consumables they get worn in and dont hold as well so you just replace it

[@CarsWithKeav]

Using materials known to rust easily especially in areas with bad water just to me is a cop out. I have spray guns that are years old and still using the original quick connects and they are not putting rust in my water. I agree with everything else just all personal preference really. If they had that same mindset about consumable quick connects why does everything else they sell have stainless as standard?

[@simontulloch8676]

Just got the new MTM had the same problem putting on the top put some WD-40 on it no more problem love it…

[@CarsWithKeav]

Just wish you didn’t have to do anything, but in the end it does work.

[@Embrxceyourdemons]

Awesome comparison. Really disappointed they didn’t add the stainless steel ball to the conversion kit. May have to pass temporarily.

[@CarsWithKeav]

Me too, straws a weighted balls can be found on Amazon for around $10

[@Auto-Bots.Custom.Detailing]

I’m so pissed… I just bought the PF22.2 like 2 months ago.. and hate the bottle and threads.. now they come out with a new bottle..

[@CarsWithKeav]

Dang, that sucks. They were 2 years late on this bottle design. Bad timing!

[@skykirado]

Thanks for sharing, I think I will buy MJJC.

[@CarsWithKeav]

Get the Pro V2 if you are unless you are waiting for the Pro V3. The S V3 did not do well in drop testing. The bottle broke to pieces and the manifold broke in half.

[@skykirado]

@@CarsWithKeav Yes, I have watched your drop test video. Just ordered pro v2. Thank you for sharing, great channel.👍🏻

[@casmithc2]

We broke through!! I hate those tabs. I would prefer more threads.

[@CarsWithKeav]

Me too, not thought was given into that design.

[@Anton99997]

That Zinc part and build quality is disappointing. Just sticking to my MJJC

[@CarsWithKeav]

Me too!

[@JoeyShip]

MTM is not going to be a company in a few years if they put out finalized products like this. Absolute garbage compared to current competition at similar price points. This looks more like a $35 Amazon buy.

[@SIat]

I’d much rather pay $15 to upgrade my PF22.2 to a wide neck than pay $80-$100 for any of the other foam cannons out there

[@CarsWithKeav]

If you already had a pf22.2 this is a no brainer to upgrade the bottle. Just wish they wouldn’t cheap out in areas when it comes to buying a whole new foam cannon. Better options are out there, but of course this is all based on opinion.

[@CarsWithKeav]

The one thing I see is they are living off older proven designs and not innovating. Which from a profit standpoint is good as you dial in those manufacturing costs over time. Even the Aqualine products are just better quality materials. SGS35 is a larger SGS28 with food grade stainless and plastics. If they wait too long they will get left behind in my opinion.

[@detailit]

​@@SIat100%

[@Ecdetails]

LMAO KEAV we spoke but bro I had a way different experience mine turned no issue #simbaisback IS it bs that for 89 bucks im getting fake zinc vs stainless steel yes that sucks but daddy is back ahah

[@CarsWithKeav]

You got the golden edition, but glad I didn’t this was better for content 🤣. Verdict is still out these plastic tabs don’t wear out overtime and the cap comes loose. Zinc QD is such an insult.

[@Ecdetails]

@@CarsWithKeav Shoutout to MTM for trolling the internet for 10 years

[@ThisOldDetailingDude]

Keav ❤ your reviews! You nailed every point, why I will NOT be purchasing the MTM. I don’t know who is in charge at MTM. But clearly they are Morons. This is the best they can do?!! Poor quality control. I will buy the new MJJC pro 3.0 when it is released

[@CarsWithKeav]

This is the third bottle release for the PF22 in 7 years and that is all they have done. The life cycle of that design to me is at max profit and it’s time to break the internet with something new. Even the SGS28 gun could be improved with a better more compact swivel. Just hope they don’t wait too long and somebody else takes more market share.

[@ThisOldDetailingDude]

@@CarsWithKeav I can not imagine what these guys are thinking? Not trying to improve their products. When I started detailing. MTM was by far the best & only option. Now I will not buy anything MTM.

[@CarsWithKeav]

They got comfortable with their partial monopoly they had years ago.

[@leor2252]

is this guy getting paid by this brand he is not saying the competitor?

[@CarsWithKeav]

🤣🤣🤣 - Who would pay to have their product quality trashed for a whole video? You should see the newest video where I destroy both of these during drop testing. They failed miserably and are horrible products if you ask me. The manifold is good, but the bottles suck. The competitor which is the MJJC S V3 bottle and manifold both got destroyed in the same testing. I didn’t say the competitor because people comment I preach them too much. I can’t win. 🤣🤣🤣

[@leor2252]

@@CarsWithKeav Bro i didnt feel you trashed them as hard, you just gave your opinion, lol, alright thank you for telling me the competitor, i found them doing some research already but at the time of watching your video i was seriously looking at your videos to try to make my informed desition on what to get from who, so far am leaning to MJJC V2 but havent finished my research yet. About the comments there is always going to be the ppl that just vomit their thougts, so you try to do the best you can and that's it, but try to be transparent, if you woulve said the competitor and not give them so much promo because you get kinda roasted on the comments you would have nail it. Thank you dude, keep making these videos, you have good things to say on the car cleaning/detailing world

[@CarsWithKeav]

@@leor2252 Appreciate that and the MJJC Pro V2 is a great pick. They are coming out with a Pro V3 sometime this spring hopefully. Kind of combines the two newest models they have with the Pro durability. Appreciate site your thoughts on the video and comments. I’ll take all the constructive feedback I can get.

[@leor2252]

@@CarsWithKeav You are welcome man, i always like to give contructive citicism, and makes me happy to see how much you take care of your hobbie and your Yt channel, it shows also on your vids, they are pretty comprehensive, just watched like 10-15+ of them trying to decide the best set up for me at the moment, which btw i saw lastly now your review on this Bear Force Foam cannon and is making me want to change the Griots which i was deciding to buy at the end for the Bear Force, has it held up over time for you tho? Am planning on doing this Griots metering tip hack you did to be able to use the straight up soap on there

[@leor2252]

🤣 i saw your drop test video now, never mind, im still going to give it a try tho, i think it works for my application

[@jasonyota4667]

Brand new foam cannon I have to mod to actually work, shame on MTM.

[@CarsWithKeav]

Agreed on that!

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

Second!!!

[@CarsWithKeav]

Maybe next time. 🤣

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

@@CarsWithKeav 😜😜couldn't since was driving and can't text and drive until a traffic light or a stop.😜

[@Enthusiast_detailing]

1st!

[@IamDetailedAF]

You making Humberto jealous 👀🤣🤣🤣

[@CarsWithKeav]

It’s a battle for 1st! Shake and bake.

[@TonysLawnCare215]

Keav this is sad the new MTM PF22.2 | Wide Neck Bottle is a poor design that click to lock THAT WILL WHERE OUT VERY FAST should have stayed with the twist off/on Design THEN IT WOULD HAVE BIN THE KING . I wont be buying this new wide version SAD

[@CarsWithKeav]

They had one job and it took them several years. It’s like they didn’t even try. I do fear MTM and even Kranzle are not innovating and in a few years if they don’t innovate they will get left behind and can’t rely on the name and decade old products.

[@DMCnME]

Yeah. Super janky. I’ll stick with the MJJC.

[@Jonathan-pr1wo]

I’ve liked the V2 more than the V1 MJJC. But I have both.

[@CarsWithKeav]

I had both as well and within a year they came out with V2 and the improvements were noticeable. Wish MTM did the same. Maybe they just have so much in R&D they have go longer between new designs.

[@CarsWithKeav]

I expected way better. Very Janky and I feel in a few months there will be a lot of complaints about the tops getting loose.

[@Jonathan-pr1wo]

@@CarsWithKeavthey cost a lot for what it is. There are better foam cannons out for there for less. With MTM you’re paying for the brand. I usually see detailers that detail high end cars use these.

[@robl6044]

I think their quality control sucks

[@CarsWithKeav]

Agreed

[@Auto-Bots.Custom.Detailing]

In only took them 10 years to catch up.. and it doesn’t seem To be that great

[@CarsWithKeav]

It didn’t do well in the drop test and the plastic tabs for the quick connect need to be cut a little to get it to fit.

[@FNitti665]

You can buy a much cheaper and better one than this garbage

[@CarsWithKeav]

Agreed, foam is there though!