NEW ROUTE 310 EXPLAINED (FIRST DAY) Stagecoach's TRANSFERRED MMCs (TfL Bus Changes + Observations)

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Today is the first day of London bus route 310. This is a completely new "trial" route, running from Golders Green to Stamford Hill. This was part of an election pledge by Mayor Sadiq Kahn. He proposed a new direct link between the two locations due to antisemitism. The original plan was to reroute the 210 using single deckers.
Route 310 runs from Golders Green Station, To Stamford Hill Broadway. Via Hampstead Heath, Highgate Village, Archway Station, Crouch Hill Station, Finsbury Park Station, Manor House Station, and Stamford Hill Station.
Route 310 follows the 210 from Golders Green to Finsbury Park, And follows routes 253 and 254 from Finsbury Park to Stamford Hill Broadway.
Route 310 runs every 20 minutes. The route only runs from 07:00 AM until 20:11 PM. Route 310 was originally planned to start yesterday (Saturday).
This new route is run by Stagecoach London. It is on a one year contract, And is using Enviro 200 MMCs. The YX68 MMCs were transferred from Rainham (RM) garage, Where they were used on route 165, before being replaced by Enviro 400s. The others are ex HCT Group MMCs.
A consultation is currently being held on route 310. It can be found at haveyoursay.tf... and on posters put along the route. The 310 currently runs from Ash Grove (HK) garage. The route has a peak vehicle requirement of 8. A full journey on the route takes around 50 minutes.
Route 310 is restricted to single deckers due to a low bridge at Finsbury Park. Route 310 connects with several rail lines, Including with the London Overground at Stamford Hill, The Piccadilly line at Manor House and Finsbury Park, The Victoria and Piccadilly lines and National Rail at Finsbury Park, And the Northern Line at Archway and Golders Green. This is possibly the first time a new London bus route has been launched on a Sunday, As bus changes usually happen on Saturdays. Interestingly, route 310 does not serve Finsbury Park bus station. Route 310 starts at stop CV at Stamford Hill. The route starts and ends outside Golders Green bus station.
“I know there have been concerns about safety given the terrible rise in antisemitism and this route will provide a safe, sustainable and affordable route for local residents as we continue to build a safer, fairer and greener London for everyone.” - a quote by Sadiq Kahn (the best mayor of London, please argue in the comments below, if anyone reads the description anyway which they don't).
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Filmed and edited on the first day. Do not use this video without permission and please like and subscribe (or don't)

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@Umut-j3f
@Umut-j3f 27 күн бұрын
I think the 310 needs new extensions extension to west hampstead and then 253 to clapton pond then 55 to lea bridge the it will have its own stops comtiueing lea bridge station legion graplling academy overton road staffa road terminating at walthamstow argall avenue making it even more usefull as single decker buses normally has its own stops
@OSCandLondonBuses
@OSCandLondonBuses 24 күн бұрын
Then they would have to extend 210 To Oxford probebly because that would make 310 a longer route
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 24 күн бұрын
​@@OSCandLondonBusesThere's no need to extend the 210 because if it was extended at Finsbury park it would have to use SDs due to the low bridge
@Umut-j3f
@Umut-j3f 24 күн бұрын
Wdym oxford
@Umut-j3f
@Umut-j3f 24 күн бұрын
@@OSCandLondonBuses wdym oxford
@WesternTransit2024
@WesternTransit2024 Ай бұрын
Nice Video! I hope 310 follows it's own route after the trial as I'm not a fan of how it parallels over half the 210. I like how it's the only Stagecoach route in the area as well. The iBus announcement is horrible and should be changed immediately.
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
Yeah it feels like this route was rushed to me, the iBus sounds terrible and they probably just stitched together the audio recordings. It should definitely be rerouted next year, hopefully avoiding that low bridge so they can put DDs on it. Or maybe reroute the 210 to Stamford Hill but avoiding the low bridge through Harringay/Holloway but still serving Finsbury Park via a loop. And yeah Stagecoach brings some nice variety to the areas, I wonder if they'll manage to keep it next time.
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
0:00 Observations 3:08 Pictures/iBus/Posters
@thewesternway
@thewesternway Ай бұрын
I dont like how the ibus says '3 1 O' instead of saying 'Three ten' first ever mispronouncing of Emma Hignett.
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@thewesternway yeah same. Hopefully it gets fixed soon
@Bobbyandmog
@Bobbyandmog Ай бұрын
I honestly think the 310 is a waste of time, especially because we already have the 254,253,210 and the 4 that all go through the exact same places as the 310. Also that ibus announcement....tHrEe oNe O
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
Tbh I kind of agree, it did seem a bit pointless when I first heard the news but it is a better solution than to reroute and single deck the 210.
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
But to be fair, I did see quite a few passengers (real ones, not just enthusiasts!) use this route, although it was probably because the 310 showed up before a 210. The section between Finsbury Park and Stamford Hill is not that well used from what I've seen. It's also pretty inconvenient that there's no stop close to Finsbury Park station but I guess the whole point of the route is to provide a direct service (hopefully they'll add one under the bridge after the consultation closes). And yeah, that iBus is so strange
@Bobbyandmog
@Bobbyandmog Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 Also,i think the 310 would have worked if it started at Clapton and follows the 106 up to Stoke Newington then up to Stamford hill and continue as normal from there. I would also change the unnecessary turn to rock street and make the 310 turn into the Finsbury park interchange anyways.
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@Bobbyandmog I think they could've rerouted the 210 instead. They could've made the Finsbury Park section a double run so the 210s then go up Upper Tollington Park via the W5 and then via the 29/141/243 to Manor House and then onto Stamford Hill. If only the low bridge at Finsbury Park wasn't there
@londonbuses4763
@londonbuses4763 Ай бұрын
@@Bobbyandmogthe buses are too long to make that turn onto Stroud Green Road from Station Place
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
Here's the consultation for route 310: haveyoursay.tfl.gov.uk/new-route-310 Sadiq's other proposals: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJDRcqmdqLysabs
@robbiethebruce6488
@robbiethebruce6488 Ай бұрын
Always thought 310 was an Arriva service,double decks, Hertford to Enfield . So TfL is re-using route numbers of old, again
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
yeah it still comes up as the first option if you search it on google too
@robbiethebruce6488
@robbiethebruce6488 Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 I can remember when it was a London Buses Ltd service using Metrobuses (M class) from Enfield or Potters Bar (or both), before deregulation including the 310A.
@Nooticus
@Nooticus Ай бұрын
Not a useless bus, despite what it seems on the surface. For literally over a decade (check the London Assembly questions asked on the matter) a direct service between these two places has been wanted, due to several factors which I shall explain: 1. Many charedi (ultra-orthodox) Jews do not drive and need to travel between these two places for work/family. 2. There have been repeated anti-semitic attacks on people making this journey who are changing buses at Finsbury Park, and these have likely gotten far worse and more frequent since October 2023 due to the current political climate. I’m talking about a 500-600% increase over the number of incidents of this kind in previous years.
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
Good points there, but is there any reason why the service doesn't operate after 7 PM since buses become less frequent and it gets darker and therefore possibly more dangerous?
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
I think it's a good service but TfL should change the routeing so it doesn't follow the exact same route as the 210 and 253/254. It would still be a direct bus between Golders Green and Stamford Hill if it went via Holloway or Harringay. It'd just take a bit longer but would also increase usage and allow for double deckers if other routes avoiding the low bridge were chosen.
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
It is a real shame that it's gotten to a point where a major interchange like Finsbury Park is unsafe though.
@Nooticus
@Nooticus Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 No idea about this. i expect this is simply a cost-cutting measure and they expect people to make trips in the daytime. bear in mind that the majority of charedi/chasidic people do not have full-time jobs in the same way that most other people do.
@Nooticus
@Nooticus Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 i absolutely am in total agreement with you there!
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
Like TfL with the 310, I'm trying out using different thumbnails as a test to see which one people like the best (I have no idea how this works tbh)
@Mubstransportforlondon
@Mubstransportforlondon Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 i just went on 310 bus
@Mubstransportforlondon
@Mubstransportforlondon Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 it’s a great bus it’s nice 👌 bus got added to the network
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@Mubstransportforlondon yeah it is
@TESL1.10
@TESL1.10 Ай бұрын
Can I be honest, if this was a new thumbnail, (I didn't check) it didn't get recommended to me and I was surprised bc normally your videos are on the top of my fyp, until I saw a relevant video on the 310 then yours got recommended on the side panel.
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@TESL1.10 idk how it works, I guess it shows one thumbnail to some people and the second thumbnail to others. I made two for this, one with a picture of a 310 at Archway station on the right, and one with a screenshot of a 310 on the right.
@cooldude12-q9b
@cooldude12-q9b Ай бұрын
Nice video 👍 Thankfully they didn't touch 210
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@cooldude12-q9b thanks and yeah it's great that the 210 was not made single deck but I think they could've extended it to Stamford Hill while still serving Finsbury Park via a double run. It could go via Holloway or Harringay and that way the 310 wouldn't have had to be made
@cooldude12-q9b
@cooldude12-q9b Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 yeah that's true
@TESL1.10
@TESL1.10 Ай бұрын
yhhh 210s the bossman
@jasonbusred3297
@jasonbusred3297 Ай бұрын
good job add at 5:00 pm you are cool nice video
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
thanks
@Abdul.M.
@Abdul.M. Ай бұрын
Great content oh wow route picking up passengers give few month route be busy
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
tbh there were quite a few passengers yesterday
@LoveLondon-ue4gg
@LoveLondon-ue4gg Ай бұрын
Nice it very strange to see a stagecoach bus in Barnet TBH
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
yeah it is. And with ex HCT ones as well
@AG_Buses
@AG_Buses Ай бұрын
And what happens if the one year contract finishes?😭
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
There's a consultation on the 310 that just started today. TfL will decide what happens to the 310 when the contract finishes
@londonbuses4763
@londonbuses4763 Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1and they could possibly make it worse than it is
@PGATProductions
@PGATProductions Ай бұрын
@@londonbuses4763 eh its already useless in its current form i can think of a million ways it could be altered
@Abdul.M.
@Abdul.M. Ай бұрын
TFl would decide if the route be permanent and get full new contract tender given other operators to bid for it
@TESL1.10
@TESL1.10 Ай бұрын
Icl overall this bus route is cold, bc the places it goes and the train stns it connects it will defo be useful for me bc one time I actually needed such thing up and running it's good that they applied it now. and thx for that info at 1:56 , it's good to know such things. Also could you have showed the interior when playing the Ibus audio? The video would've been much better that way. Finally 20 minutes for a good bus route like this is fcked it should've been 10 minutes imo.
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
Yeah the interiors aren't really that special but I'll consider it in future videos. And I think it's actually alright as a 20 minute service. It doesn't need to be more frequent (in its current routeing) since the 210 and 253/254 are frequent enough and the 310 is supposed to be a direct bus. If you missed a 310 you could either wait for the next one or just take the 253/254 (which basically provide an every 3 minute service) and the 210, which is less frequent but people can just wait for the next one.
@TESL1.10
@TESL1.10 Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 I'd say at least 15 minutes but yh fair enough
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@TESL1.10 Yeah every 15 is good too (I would say that it isn't a memorable timetable but for some reason TfL decided to make it run at different 20 minute intervals on Mon-Fri and on the weekend so yeah...) If it followed a new routeing then maybe every 10 would be alright
@OSCandLondonBuses
@OSCandLondonBuses Ай бұрын
my new local
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
nice
@LT63UJY
@LT63UJY Ай бұрын
Nice
@AG_Buses
@AG_Buses Ай бұрын
Great observations bro!👌
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
thanks!
@TESL1.10
@TESL1.10 Ай бұрын
What's a peak vehicle requirement?
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
how many buses are needed in the peak (Mon - Fri)
@TESL1.10
@TESL1.10 Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 ohhh thx
@londonbusfanrex
@londonbusfanrex Ай бұрын
Mostly buses you were on my bus lol I saw you
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
which one?
@londonbusfanrex
@londonbusfanrex Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 37535
@londonbusfanrex
@londonbusfanrex Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses137535
@-LB45
@-LB45 Ай бұрын
When the 381 video coming out
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@-LB45 probably in the next week or two. I don't have many videos lined up so the 381 and 131 videos will come soon (I also edited a 77 video but my stupid broken video editor refuses to complete that so I'll probably lump it in with the 281)
@Umut-j3f
@Umut-j3f Ай бұрын
I dont understand this is like a copy of 210
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
Yeah it's supposed to be a Golders Green to Stamford Hill link so the fastest way is via the 210 and 253/254, although I think it'd be better if they changed the routeing.
@TESL1.10
@TESL1.10 Ай бұрын
Ohhh so this bus was proposed to connect the stamford hill jews to golders green jews that's actually smart you know, bet New Routemaster Fan will be happy lol.
@AnimeX-Yedits
@AnimeX-Yedits Ай бұрын
When will you do enviro 400 ev on 131
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
In the next week or two
@AnimeX-Yedits
@AnimeX-Yedits Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 ok
@jtransportbuses
@jtransportbuses Ай бұрын
Nice Video!
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@jtransportbuses thanks!
@Mubstransportforlondon
@Mubstransportforlondon Ай бұрын
It’s nice
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
yeah good to see TfL introducing new all stops routes, even if this one isn't really needed that much imo
@Mubstransportforlondon
@Mubstransportforlondon Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 I know
@Mubstransportforlondon
@Mubstransportforlondon Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 I was wondering I really want to collaboration on your next KZbin video
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@Mubstransportforlondon I don't really do collabs sorry. But tbh I go to most bus changes / events so you might see me then
@Mubstransportforlondon
@Mubstransportforlondon Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 I haven’t seen u
@Abdul.M.
@Abdul.M. Ай бұрын
Its pointless making 210 Single Decker route due to have New electric double deckers
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
Yeah it's good that didn't happen
@X.DemonRoblox.X
@X.DemonRoblox.X Ай бұрын
YES THEY ARE OUT
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
yes
@X.DemonRoblox.X
@X.DemonRoblox.X Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 hope they add electrics
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@X.DemonRoblox.X I don't think Stagecoach will keep it on its next contract so yeah I think Arriva will win it with electrics
@X.DemonRoblox.X
@X.DemonRoblox.X Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 i hope they use the proposed bzl on arriva
@X.DemonRoblox.X
@X.DemonRoblox.X Ай бұрын
@@MostlyBuses1 apparentley someone found a bzl on arriva
@shubhamuprit
@shubhamuprit Ай бұрын
What will happen to 210? 😢 🫤🤔🤔
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
nothing. It's getting new electrics but that's unrelated to this
@shubhamuprit
@shubhamuprit Ай бұрын
Enviro200ev or GB kite or bzl
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@shubhamuprit it's not getting single deckers
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@shubhamuprit E400 EVs
@Greenfordbusboi
@Greenfordbusboi Ай бұрын
I still dont get why these are stagecoach
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
probably because no one else had existing diesels for it
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
and GAL only bid on 5 year contracts now
@SafwanPlays
@SafwanPlays Ай бұрын
Noice
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
thanks!
@Nojab77787
@Nojab77787 Ай бұрын
A special bus for khans favourite minions.
@Nojab77787
@Nojab77787 Ай бұрын
Ps khan put a video up about this bus 10 hours ago…..zero views 😂😂😂
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@Nojab77787 I'm one of Kahn's minions
@ms_1931
@ms_1931 Ай бұрын
This route is pointless, it just follows 253/254 which are already frequent and 90% of 210s route. It should’ve been run via 67 to TPL then 144 to Muswell Hill via Hornsey then 102 via East Finchley to Golders Green, that would be more useful because then TPL and Hornsey have a route to NW London and that would benefit everyone and not just the Jewish Community.
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
yeah that would also be a good idea. That should hopefully happen next year
@Umut-j3f
@Umut-j3f 27 күн бұрын
But then ur idea is makjng the 102 quite useless
@Umut-j3f
@Umut-j3f 27 күн бұрын
I say extend the 310 to west hampstead and stoke newington more usefull
@TerryJohnson7
@TerryJohnson7 Ай бұрын
for me this seems to be a useless bus
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
yeah I kind of agree. There's enough buses from Stamford Hill to Finsbury Park and it shouldn't follow the exact same routeing of the 210 and 253/254. It can be direct, yes, but have it serve other places too.
@TerryJohnson7
@TerryJohnson7 Ай бұрын
​​@@MostlyBuses1 Is it not possible to reroute the 210 to Holloway and from there it goes to Stamford Hill?? And like that it can keep its double deckers
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@TerryJohnson7 yeah I was thinking that too. It would be nice if there was a double run around Finsbury Park bus station, where instead of a terminating point the 210 would just carry on and go to Harringay via the W5 or Holloway like you said, and then terminating at Stamford Hill.
@MostlyBuses1
@MostlyBuses1 Ай бұрын
@@TerryJohnson7 A change to the 210 without removing double deckers or the Finsbury Park section and still extending it to Stamford Hill would be a good replacement for the 310
@kingmohammed34-t7s
@kingmohammed34-t7s Ай бұрын
​@MostlyBuses1 yeah but there is a low bridge cutting off the 210 w7 And w3
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