New S-Stock Trains on the Metropolitan Line

It's August 2010, and new 'S-Stock' trains are being rolled out to the Metropolitan Line, and so we went with video camera in hand to go out on the network to track down the new train and compare the difference between the old A Stock, and the new units.
Recorded on 6th August 2010.

[@ce1834]

These trains still seem pretty new, even though its been nearly 12 years lol (edit: 14 😶)

[@jpizzaio2465]

ikr

[@painting4850]

That’s how you know you’ve done a good job

[@idot3331]

Yep, compared to the older deep level stock they seem space age. Hopefully we'll get the same effect when they introduce the "new tube for london" stock on the Piccadilly.

[@Ro99]

@@idot3331 I’m sure we will because a lot has changed. Except for that snazzy deadpool face at the front, the 2009s don’t really feel much newer than 1995and6s but now we get aircon, screens, open gangways and cool interior lights. Not to mention the nice front.

[@RandomTFLupdates-PEPS_FOR_LIFE]

Yh

[@davidk4926]

Imagine going back to 2010 and telling them that the Bakerloo trains that were potentially to be replaced in 2018 would actually not be due to be replaced for around 20-25 years…

[@zeyadalwahbi6304]

*14-15 yrs, have more faith. in 2025 they will be replaced, now it's just less than a year away :D

[@axethepenguin]

@@zeyadalwahbi6304definitely not 2025, due to underfunding TfL are prioritising the Piccadilly, the Bakerloo are due to be replaced in 2036 according to TfL

[@jjpanmationshow]

That will make the 72 stock on bakerloo line 64 years old

[@ec8451]

It's crazy to think that the first batch of these trains have been in service for nearly 10 years whilst the youngest for just 3! Time flies!

[@ET-hm8do]

Now 14

[@Pomeranc470]

​@@ET-hm8dochild discoveres time, 2024, colourized

[@tastyblox]

the fact that these trains are already 13 years old is mind blowing

[@tjrplarkins]

1:17 'It's 1941 now' God!

[@monaissa7433]

Time traveling

[@iknowcomedy]

If u are watching in 2018 then you'll know that S stock has taken over the District, Hammersmith and Circle Lines too

[@The_Untitled]

The chime as the doors open is so iconic

[@AudioTones67]

I'm glad to see London is getting air-conditioned trains. I've just returned from a 2 week trip to London (yes, in that cold weather), and was surprised to see how warm the carriages get when full (I was mostly on the Northern line). I can't begin to imagine what they're like in summer.

[@fireboltaz]

Yes. Too many mouth breathers

[@dronespace]

I miss the A stock

[@RhysC0681]

@RJ Trains Worldwide same

[@thecyberleaderwhufc]

Same here they were faster 100%

[@trainsandplanes6801]

I'm only nine so I can't remember them I always wanted to go on one though :(

[@TEBEnthusiast]

Spencer Green I saw one in Acton town train museum

[@adamstrainvideos]

Same here

[@LiftFan]

2018 - The 1972 stock are still going strong, and are very likely to see over 50 years in active service...

[@QuarioQuario54321]

The are currently no plans to replace them until the 2030s seemingly

[@Enviri]

@@QuarioQuario54321 the bakerloo line is probably gonna get 2022 stock trains that are ordered for the picadilly, maybe a 2023 stock or something

[@QuarioQuario54321]

@@Enviri The 73 stock replacement (variously dubbed InspiroLondon and 2024 stock) and no plans currently exist to replace the 72 stock.

[@sem49]

@@QuarioQuario54321 new tube for london said it will replace the central, waterloo city, bakerloo and picadilly lines in 2024 to 2026

[@jonah6404]

@@sem49 Bakerloo line trains will stay till the 30s

[@Jeagles]

I miss the A, C and D78 stocks so much

[@MrJimheeren]

You miss old rattling trains? You do realize the new ones have airco right

[@Jeagles]

@@MrJimheeren despite the S stock being fundamentally “better” than the previous fleets, the previous trains were far more interesting.

[@CanuckJim]

Wow - almost 7 years later. The open from end-to-end style is used on the Yonge line in Toronto and it's yielded the most interesting behavior: when there were separate cars, regular riders would know where to stand as they got on so they'd get off at their destination strategically (ie closest to the escalators, closes to the interchange tunnels). Since the Yonge line introduced "end to end", I've noticed the regular users now get on wherever they like but walk through the train to the 'ideal' exit door as their destination approaches.

[@thesmity31]

Good point, i've noticed this (and done it myself) on these new ones on the metropolitan line. It's easier to wait nearer the end of the platform where fewer people will be (and therefore where there are more free seats), and then get close to the door you need when you need to.

[@OntarioTrafficMan]

I'm a daily commuter on the Yonge line and I definitely do this. I always ride at the south end of the train because it's less crowded (since many busy stations have entrances at the north end). As I approach my station, I walk to the north end of the train where the exit into my building is. And a lot of others do this as well, at Bloor station there is a parade of people moving southwards through the train, as people spread out along the train after boarding at the north end (where the main entrance is).

[@caughtinyourtrance]

1:20 Geoff speaking.

[@heidisutton9762]

I don't think it was Geoff speaking

[@fidkrdk7283]

Probally not, Geoff is probally recording and has to keep quiet

[@Miku-uw2sl]

And?

[@ET-hm8do]

These trains still look new, but now they're nearly 14 years old! 😮

[@projectzip]

Ooooo some more Vintage Viki on my feed.

[@wirral_transport]

2020 anyone?

[@JalanBax]

Me!

[@LongHaulPilot]

Me

[@cameradoesstuff...]

No one

[@ZLDSmogless]

I love the heritage of the A stock but I love the looks, the sound , the fact they are now self driving, and the door buzzer of the S stock

[@nobledeluxgamer4633]

i like the sond of the opening door

[@irenec4876]

You should try the Metro in Genova if you are ever in Italy. Catch it at Genova Brignole to ride it fully. It is rather historic and the new 2016 Stock Trains make mazing noises, so does the 1990 stock, (Oldest Stock Train).

[@iknowcomedy]

We all do

[@mariachrzski18]

It is satisfying!

[@finnyoungman2674]

We all do..

[@Lankzstuntin]

irene c italy? ‘Rona went there before i could

[@TravelingEurope1]

The new trains look so nice and I am so happy that the new trains will be more wheelchair accessible. They will really help make a good impression of modern london

[@PatrickMapper]

Nowadays it’s nice to come to this comment section and see an old era of comments and what people thought would happen

[@pwrcaelenx]

Can’t believe it’s 2023 already

[@Rohan-iq6zb]

Bakerloo line getting new trains in 2018? That didn't age well lol. Hopefully they quickly implement the new piccadilly line stock on the other deep level lines too.

[@agitohd]

Seems like they will be getting them 12 years after that, thank you Siemens Mobility!

[@majorgeneralexcaperr2583]

5:21 anyone notice the terminating station was Baker Street?

[@adriyanangelov7099]

Harrow on the hill station 5.21

[@robdavies8702]

Watford trains usually terminate at Baker Street.

[@AnatolyDyatolov]

It's 2022 and still no new train for the piccadilly line

[@bobo577]

It is a shame that there isn’t unique painted handrails, but the moquettes make up for them. It would be a pain to give individual S Stock to all the lines, it’s more efficient to have all the trains running on the line with a single colour but notices to tell us what line the trains are on.

[@Bigbro28]

I have to say I am getting addicted to these videos. 🐨🇦🇺

[@ianmcclavin]

Pros and Cons with the S Stock compared to the A, C.and D Stock, but the air-conditioning has certainly been welcome on the S Stock during the recent heatwave.

[@echandler5558]

WOW 7 years old

[@timorgano]

So the braking is still just as ear piercing

[@graffitijunkiejfk]

The new trains are better in every possible way but I still prefer the old ones. I can still remember the first time I rode that old stock but I don't recall my first time on the new ones...

[@eamesaerospace2805]

Art Hunter me too

[@clarkpatient7950]

Wow I'm the same! The old ones stick in your mind better I guess!

[@ashleyjiscool]

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[@ace-paidinfull5240]

I remember when i first went on a metropolitan/circle/district train, i was so amazed because i was only used to the rest of tubes which are all the same dimensions. Was well impressed lol Only thing i dont like about the s stock is that they made all the handle bars yellow, why not keep the m line purple like the old stock, and the district line keep it green and obviously same with the h&c line (pink)

[@callofduty12316]

Not too sure but I belive it's to do with RVAR 2010 regulation. Yellow grabpoles are easier to see for people with visual impairments so they went with that.

[@ace-paidinfull5240]

@@callofduty12316 right, that sounds familiar actually

[@BaileyChap]

I'm not sure why the Metropolitan line doesn't do it, but the H&C, Circle, and District lines all share the same trains (S7 stock), which are regularly switched between lines, and changing all the grab rails would be very tedious.

[@LILC63]

If only we actually got those Bakerloo trains in 2018..

[@AgnostosGnostos]

At 00:24 the classic Jello effect from the rolling shutter of consumer digital cameras.

[@elijrivera522]

What I’m mad about them is that they replaced the A,C, and D which was pretty sad

[@adamtoms761]

I’d never stopped to think just how much better the S line is compared to the old stock. I wasn’t old enough to ride them during the summer. They must have been absolutely unbearable.

[@kavirajnosib4648]

Bakerloo gets new trains around 2018, 8 years later it is going quick I remeber watching this in like 2010 bloody hell

[@tread0carefully]

I miss the 'big mets' probably just nostalgically though.. I would have to get one every morning from Uxbridge when I was growing up. I remember being freezing cold in the mornings.. The S stock is a beautiful unit, they are very well built. Also, air con is a god send. The common misconception amongst commuters is that air con is for cooling, when actually the temp is automatically regulated for comfort. I think they are set to 22 degrees at a guess.

[@luigiandmariobros3097]

It’s 2022 right now and Bakerloo And Picadilly lines still haven’t had updates to them

[@QuarioQuario54321]

They said that the S stock replacement'd be complete by 2015.It's 2017&there're still D trains out.

[@martinpeel7608]

I like the S stock, I've been on them many times☺☺☺☺☺

[@timaamelinsios8862]

Things I like about the new trains: walkthrough carriages, double doorways, standing room, open push buttons.

[@TransporterTony]

10 years later we are, and we still have the 1973 and 72 stocks still standing.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

Lovely film, and presenter. The S stock will be restricted to 62mph, even after the signalling upgrades, whereas when it was built the A stock had a top speed of 70mph. Simon

[@timaamelinsios8862]

citytransportinfo no

[@daredevil3744]

A modern signalling system doesn't restrict trains to a reduced speed.

[@BaileyChap]

I looked up the specs and apparently 62 mph is the top speed, not just one the train is limited to, so even if LU wanted to increase the service speed they couldn't. The A stock regularly hit 70 mph in its prime, so it's sad that such speeds won't be continuing.

[@supernick345]

I loved the fact that at any speed the A stock would always soothingly rock from side to side which I miss on the S stock

[@darksars3622]

Thing is tho, i think the "less seats but more standing room" is not very good, take some advice from the bus world, the more people who are sitting the happier they are. most of the time with these newer trains when it's crowded, all the seats are taken and you end up having to stand and on longer trips this can be a pain and when you do get a seat or you get the chance of getting one early it's so rock hard that you feel like standing, and I know that it's a metro train but even most metro trains aren't that hard (looking at you purple line). But I also get that those sorts of trains get extremely crowded so in my opinion they should use what I call an inline to window seat ratio. A good example of this is the b2k stock of the DLR (which are being replaced by b23 stock which is all inline) Thing is that you need a good balance of window seating to inline seating that takes in to acount on the type of train, route, and journey time. so yes, THE MOST OF THE NEW STOCK TFL IS GETTING IS GARBAGE FIGHT ME

[@damianknight8064]

just moved to Uxbridge and I love the trains on the met line

[@luisi09]

The S7 Stock in the Bakerloo line?? How did they want to put them there if they don't fit in the tunnel gauge?

[@simonmorse1785]

Love the Mary Quant bob.

[@metrowake11]

11:28 Wembley Park to Croxley semi fast arriving at 12:00. 12:15 Croxley to Wembley Park semi fast arriving at 12:47. 13:22 Wembley Park to Watford semi fast arriving at 13:55. 14:00 Watford to Wembley Park semi fast arriving at 14:33. 16:35 Wembley Park to Croxley all stations arriving at 17:08. 19:40 Croxley to Wembley Park semi fast arriving at 20:03. This is from Wikipedia, so don't quote me on it.

[@Kingration387]

Welp, it's 6 years after 2018 and the Bakerloo Line trains still haven't been replaced.

[@ajs41]

Piccadilly Line gets replaced first next year, followed by Bakerloo Line.

[@LokiAvivson]

I miss these old trains that operated on the Metropolitan, Circle, Hammersmith & City and District Lines only did an old Metropolitan Line Train from Great Portland Street to Ruislip but didn't do the older Circle, District or Hammersmith & City Line Trains

[@WagDemTails]

3:33 bro, 13 years later and these signs are still on trains!

[@Techlevel1534.]

They still want to know what you think

[@FirstClassFootage]

Really well made and presented. I hope you will go and chase a few 378s, 172s and the 2009 Vic stock! Great stuff.

[@jamesdavison1786]

FirstClassFootage and nine years later, they are doing the upgrades this week

[@eddiehumphries2780]

"Maybe an upgrade for the Balerloo line in 2018" here we are at the start of 2019 and nothing's happened.

[@max5183]

I watch your vids and am subscribed, but this video is 11! Years old, these recommendations get out of hand :D

[@YaBoySpeed]

I really miss the A-Trains

[@formulacountdown]

I am an S Stock fanatic, and I travel on the metropolitan Line a lot, however since I mainly travel on the Uxbridge branch, I have not had the pleasure of riding one. Other members of my household have though, and they have, amazingly, criticized it!

[@BusesinLondon345]

The bakerloo line has the oldest trains in London.

[@mtw227]

Well done!

[@declancotter722]

@@mtw227 I think their the oldest in the country now that the 38's were scrapped from the isle of wight.

[@jordansclancy]

I miss the old A stock trains

[@gamingx5750]

Awww that's nice

[@perrymarkbrackenbury7820]

Never got a chance to ride the A stock, I seen them when I was on the district, I remember seeing high back chairs on the A Stock, I wish I could go on it.

[@ChilternTravels05]

Same here but I've never saw the A60/A62 stock.

[@Fookracists]

Never been.on them myself tbh

[@northernrail7469]

Perry Mark Brackenbury LT Museum have one DM carriage at Acton Depot.

[@tobysummers471]

Perry Mark Brackenbury they were excellent trains that could get upto some speed and felt like an actual train rather than the underground. The seats were very comfortable

[@CS_22]

Perry Mark Brackenbury How Could You See An A Stock If You Were On The District Line?

[@Gregobars]

I hate having no air conditioning on the train, I use it to go to school everyday and sometimes I find it difficult to breathe at times when it is incredibly packed

[@1234smileface]

She was so much younger back then. Wow

[@southlondoner7169]

Yeah, it's true, these are on the Metropolitan, District, H'smith & City and Circle

[@sienekebd]

What's wrong with me? I really like the train screeching for some reason

[@cam43002]

Its mad to think the oldest s stock is almost 12 years old

[@cuisinenadia2254]

Belle vidéo Darik, tes vidéos sont toujours les meilleures

[@SWTransport]

I didn’t even know this was Geoff’s third ever video...

[@volvotrident4835]

It's been 8 years wow

[@ASJ-29]

RIP A stock

[@jayneblett8168]

I like the c stock layout nice seat arrangements

[@Great_WesternTVFan]

me Noob I like some old trains. And I like most of the new trains. I like the c stock. But I hate the a stock

[@AFCManUk]

Wow.....looking at the other comments, it seems I'm not the only one that can't believe it's already been 13 years since the S-Stock started service!

[@EssexWolf1993]

I love to have a ride on these new trains. :-) Hopefully I should when I go to London in a couple of weeks time to connect en-route to Yorkshire.

[@abbiewilkinson3243]

Did you get to ride on them?

[@EssexWolf1993]

Loads of times now.

[@VeryBadCop]

Its now 2021 and the Bakerloo and Picadilly line still dont have new stock

[@terrier_productions]

I can’t believe the S Stock are almost 10 yrs old.. I feel old even though I was 5 when these came into service

[@DanielleMoren]

I remember riding this when i went to Science museum

[@spatrompete2601]

Don’t why it pop up today but viki 8 years and LGI and viki today she looks the same not one bit aged ;-)

[@staszekr03]

The S stock first appeared in 2010 !!!!! i renember IT like IT was yesterday ( i hate it when the last train of a stock gos out of service 😬😬) no more A&C stock trains :( and no more 1962 Vctoria line trains 😥😥

[@floridmonkey2723]

The Bakerloo line is the only one I haven't been on in the 2 times I've visited London.

[@Cowman9791]

0:46 well the sub surface at minimum, still got the northern and central line overcrowded or unreliable trains (in that order)

[@nxhb]

We caught the new style trains from Uxbridge and it was wonderfully airy and a great novelty to my son as he loved walking from one end of the train to the other!

[@williamschlich8389]

3:10- that is the most badman thing i have eva seen

[@sem49]

The moquette design means Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan lines, Circle and District line too!

[@cheungdonny5219]

I love this new train

[@MannyAntipov]

2:20 S8 Stocks aren't the first trains to have air conditioning on the Underground - the title goes to the 1983 Tube Stock, though they were troublesome :/

[@firefalcon4xaa125]

It's like the Overground

[@ChrisInTheNorth]

I've just seen the date on this video! I was going to say those new trains look similar, inside at least, to the trains that now run on Thameslink

[@CharlieFlemingOriginal]

Ten years later and it will be the Piccadilly that will get new trains first... but news has been silent for years now. S stock is beginning to show age, worn seats and burnt out lights, and the doors dont all open at the same time anymore.

[@davroos7255]

Hi viki I love your All The Stations vids. Maybe you should do, all the least used stations in the country.

[@joffdorling3562]

Great video mate I really like watching your videos there really cool and very interesting as well😌👍💜

[@VirreFriberg]

Can't believe these trains are almost 10 years old.

[@famchinwei]

1:40 She is shocked that the doors suddenly open when she is pressing the buttons

[@Catacfr1]

Yes there are 142 seats less...you have 306 seats and you can seat on all of them because is and end-to-end walk train. In the old trains you have access to a limited number of seats (that are in 1 carrige). So the correct comparison is there are 10 or 20 or 30 seats to 306. It' s measured car by car not by train. So the new train is like a whole carrige:)). S Stock rocks! The problem is other european cityes have trains like this before 1800 b.c. (not but still much earlier than London)

[@peterrussell830]

Interesting video Viki, more please.

[@QuarioQuario54321]

4:12 Yeah but nobody wants to stand

[@DoubleDeckerAnton]

A lovely video on the old train..!! 📹😁 I never travelled on these! 😢 The new trains I have seen on the district and circle line! 👏

[@Aly_jaf]

DoubleDeckerAnton hey again anton!

[@Aly_jaf]

Stu Wilkes you are “smart”

[@Izumi5]

This is a well-done video, whether S stock trains are better or not. It was easy to see differences between two. I think I like the older one, by the way.

[@johnsmith-qf1op]

Crumpet on a train . Does not get any better.

[@Suliplayz5264]

1:34 that screech tho

[@acozkan]

Old Geoff fans: After a 2 years finally a New video

[@vincenta_2]

Bakerloo Line 2018: No new trains

[@Great_WesternTVFan]

Mr. Cloroxguy only in 2019

[@mjcats2011]

Bakerloo line will not receive new trains until 2028 at the earliest/

[@Great_WesternTVFan]

mjcats2011 no. It's in 2025

[@B9TL205]

Lubdhak Das W no its 2033