New Sae Boss Fight - Persona 5 Royal

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[@501sttrooperbmc2]

I like how there isn’t a cognitive Makoto, I mean, it makes sense why since Makoto has nothing to do with Sae’s career life, but it also shows she doesn’t view her own sister in any distorted way.

[@MarshallMelloooo]

Because she cares about her sister

[@ci7210]

Cognitive Akechi would be cool. Maybe her assistant or something. Since she probably doesn't see them as equals

[@robo-raven2157]

@@ci7210 It would have been neat to see a Cognitive Akechi spying on the group and telling Shadow Sae what they're up to. She could even use that information to cheat in a minigame or something.

[@RM-sj8oc]

@@robo-raven2157 that would be so cool!!

[@mcstabbins4501]

Even when she's distorted, she still cares for her sister

[@demi-femme4821]

Makoto: **casts Mediarama on Akechi while his health is full** Akechi, king of dramatic bitches: "Very helpful!"

[@JoeyLamontagne]

At least Makoto didn’t say “You’re dead”

[@theheroneededwillette6964]

So now the spinner determines the element she uses. Neat

[@brycecartwright2403]

Just beat it, I don’t know why but it kinda sucks. Waaayy less fun than the original and a weird difficulty spike, at least for me

[@SteamyLinguini]

Bryce Cartwright She was pretty easy. I’d argue that she’s even easier here than in vanilla

[@brycecartwright2403]

I guess it was just me, I was only playing on normal but kept getting one shoted when she did her almighty attack

[@Deuceo33]

Bryce Cartwright you’re not alone I liked the original better

[@narutofan4545]

Seems easier than vanilla

[@mrex666productions7]

That outfit she's wearing, her introductory dialogue and that both of them turn into ugly monsters to fight reminds me of the P5S Alice. (In Japanese dialogue both of them even go straight into "DIEDIEDIEDIEDIE" if you damage them enough)

[@allaroundlazy2845]

Pretty sure that supposed to be the other way around on reminding you lol.

[@olly_lmao]

@@allaroundlazy2845 Not really.

[@leawright588]

with those new dialogues lines from Sae, i could feel his pain and desesparation for winning, a nice touch

[@azul-currymagician4909]

*her

[@ralsideltrun1391]

.....her.......

[@mr.doppit2188]

*sigh* her

[@whenyounutinhermouthandshe]

It's been 7 months...GOD DAMN IT JUST CHANGE IT!

[@plvto1]

imagine being mad over pronouns

[@federicovazquez9011]

What happened to her iconic let’s do this fair and square quote?

[@TurkeyTueky]

MAY THE BEST PLAYER FAIR AND SQUARE!

[@Jacob-rf7ci]

I feel like the old dialouge played more into the game aspect of the palace and the new dialouge played more into her distortion of achieving victory at all costs.

[@VerbeekTruther]

"Iconic"

[@GaeaRage0798]

6:34 OMG! The dialogue from the Vanilla version was changed as well! Sae was supposed to say "If you want a fair fight, then to Hell with the game. I'll crush you by force. Fair and square, just as you like" instead.

[@leawright588]

i have to admit this new one is cool too

[@atlasreborn7221]

I guess its supposed to show off her envy.

[@ci7210]

Her screaming I AM THE LAW. Like damn.

[@Blackan]

- Tells the player that attack gets penalized - Attacks Twice I have many questions

[@RussL08]

I attacked as well on my first go, but just defended or swapped members of the Phantom Thieves after that.

[@Blackan]

@@RussL08 I mean that's fine if you need to figure out the system But twice now? To near death

[@_TravisTouchdown]

You could've covered Makoto's psy weakness with Psy Wall.

[@pickcollins9910]

I use Haru. Since the strikes are magic, she can spam Makarakarn to keep the attacks bouncing. Sae will always gain access to one of your parties weaknesses and will focus on them with it. You have Haru spam Makarakarn on that ally, and Sae will never be able to damage them. This stops working when she rolls almighty, but by that point Haru has enough damage to hold her own.

[@robo-raven2157]

@@pickcollins9910 You could use the Ring of Vanity to nullify a party member's weakness and basically give them access to a Makarakarn that drains instead of repelling.

[@gryffonrider2591]

@@robo-raven2157 this implies that each party member going into the fight has one (I currently only have 1 in my current run and forget where to get more/if possible)

[@holdenhartley5454]

How fitting for Makoto to deal the final blow

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

I should really note for this fight that while Sae's weaknesses are never displayed, damage multipliers are still applied based on the typing she gets. E.G: If she gets Ice, she will still take double damage from Fire, if she gets Psycho-kenesis she'll take massive damage from nuclear. I would highly recommend using Ann and Makoto for this fight for consistent debuffs on Sae's attack and buffs for your own defense. Haru can also extremely useful as based on the type Sae rolls she will ALWAYS target a team member who is weak to that type allowing you to set-up her magical barrier move who's name I forget. Last note is that during the last phase of the fight when she enters desperation her attack will go up, but defense down but that also means she can more or less one shot Akechi who seems vulnerable to bless type damage. In this phase I would strongly recommend def buffs and using the Ring of Greed to output high damage.

[@aliceren4449]

1:27 Shadow Niijima: *uses "Roulette Time"* Me, who is currently fighting Arcana Fortune and Arcana Strength in P3: "BRO WHAT THE- ARCANA FORTUNE'S "ROULETTE" MAKIN' AN APPEARANCE IN P5R!"

[@budiono9639]

plise ost name

[@shadex0437]

Bro screw the fortune boss lol, whenever that dude rolled fear on the party was a game over for me

[@jasonmunozjr.8187]

I really love how you finished off the fight with Makoto!

[@a.jthomas6132]

This boss fight is by far my favorite besides mine with Akechi. But this looks a different. Thanks for the request!

[@Lonewulf321]

A.J Thomas which akechi fight? Rank 8 or the cruiser?

[@fanian69]

@@Lonewulf321 maybe the cruiser

[@phantomslay5612]

Strategy for this fight: Before you get the command to stop her cheat, just spam Makarakarn and Tetrakarn on all your party members. Extra defense for when the real fight begins. Honestly, this fight is really easy that way.

[@alexalasognatrice726]

Thank you ! I'm at this point yet but I will remember your tips!

[@pandalenz6534]

Anyone else reminded of Isamu from Nocturne? The roulette wheel is very similar, with the changing affinities.

[@Reinaldo2304jsc]

Si tuve que memorizar su patrón de cambio , y tampoco ayudo que no tuviera demonios mágicos o con altos stats de magia le gane al 3 intento

[@briayantheomnipotentone3047]

I like the new Sae fight its intresting to see what attributes they land in be it would be great to see what the attributes do.

[@evil_kenshin3108]

easiest way i found is when the roulette gets to allmighty just use items/cast spells that reflect physical damage she kills herself

[@pokemongo-up3rq]

0:06 seriously guys, can you tone down the anime gasps for one second? I mean she's a boss, are you THAT surprised her boss arena changed? How many times have you gone through this already in the story?

[@dragenfire68]

Hers is the only one that actively transforms, none of the others do this.

[@eonnephilim852]

@@dragenfire68 the vault seal literally turns out to be piggytrons snout lol

[@yordi-7658]

The second element was almighty and she swooped the whole team

[@jasonmunozjr]

To see Makoto defeat Shadow Sae? So awesome.

[@thedragonslayergamer8498]

I was extremely unlucky in my fight. Sae rolled Almighty at the end and almost killed me. At the time I thought it was scripted.

[@valen-qm5se]

i think it is scripted? Iirc once u get over half health she always switches to almighty, which has the benefit of her having no resistances

[@s0phi3_chn]

same TT i had to reload

[@BigMastah79]

I remember seeing the Elemental Panels before. It was before Royal was announced, but I know I saw that somewhere. Idk where tho lmao. Maybe it was royal or whatever idk

[@horriblekellible]

did you see it in a dream?

[@BigMastah79]

Horrible Kellible | I think so 😳 I think it worked differently though. Like an attack with that element would be used on someone in your Party. Not Sae using that Element. Soooo....

[@Kazuhito710]

i guess you sew it at Persona 3

[@BigMastah79]

Maybe 😳

[@jjvalnv01]

NONO, I'VE SEEN IT TO, maybe was in some sort of trailer of royal? Idk but it's a deja vu

[@pickcollins9910]

Little note, if she hits the almighty symbol on the roulette wheel her power level flies through the roof.

[@mattemattics5667]

IF? Is it not guaranteed? She hit it all 3 of my attempts

[@thelegendaryace1395]

And her big bad attack capable of killing you can’t be predicted

[@eonnephilim852]

@@mattemattics5667 When she's under or on half HP she's guaranteed to get it each time.

[@thokk6228]

Lol I struggled so hard with this fight until I just Tetrakarened on everyone and reflected the big physical attack signalling her second phase back at her with everyone

[@kawaiicookiuwu3322]

Tbh the element to boost her is cool, but I kind of missed when we were betting and playing her game while she could have a draw-back. Kind of just wish they had mixed those elements together. Especially cause when she gets an element you can easily find a way to block it.

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

Agreed because it makes the first phase of Royal's version seem kinda pointless.

[@cameronmclean6804]

I’ve always thought that Sae’s Palace with made by Goro’s persona power to get the main character in jail to be assassinated mainly because she’s the only other boss/character that uses desperation that Goro uses in his boss battle just a theory (a fan theory lol)

[@Evnyofdeath]

I have one question. What, and how much of it, did you take when you came up with that?

[@elmina9403]

Nah, Sae legit has a Palace. She's envious of her male coworkers getting praise and promotion while she's stuck taking care of her "useless" sister and getting nothing. Of course, Akechi uses this to his advantage to set up the arrest.

[@alvinbenedict6007]

Who needs "Media" at level 58?!

[@DiegoSandovalLopez4579]

The NEW is 6:58 Rolute of the Attacks Poor Makoto she not want fight a Big Sis :(

[@thangduc667]

Diego Sandoval Lopez I thought the element roulette new to

[@DiegoSandovalLopez4579]

@@thangduc667 yep

[@plvto1]

interesting how sympathetic akechi is with makoto considering (spoilers) his ulterior motives.

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

Yeah, it is weird mostly because it's not Akechi's VO who delivered that line. It gets even weirder if you see the animation where Akechi is also not the one who delivers the line either. Not sure what happened there.

[@ci7210]

Considering out of the team both of them have personals relationship with Sae. Also if you talk to Akechi in the Jazz Club at one point he'll say he likes talking to Sae and hope to take her out to a real sushi restaurant. It made sense

[@baronsionis6855]

0/10 no Yusuke in lineup.

[@horriblekellible]

I know right I KNOW RIGHT?

[@pickcollins9910]

-10/10 no Haru either

[@Evenvagolor]

8/10 ackechi in lineup

[@ultimate8628]

The system in p5R tells you to choose your bet wisely and you will get benefits or lose them the thing is you only get to bet once in royal it made sense in p5 because the panels didn’t change but now you only get to bet twice and the time you actually win is when it’s for money that’s not really a benefit so that was one of the reasons I hated this boss

[@nintenmax3DU]

Betting during battle was fun.

[@shrineofmitski3950]

I don’t know why the boss music just ended after she revealed her true form why did it change to the song that plays when someone unlocks their persona?

[@lightningdash231]

because she "awakened" to her true form.

[@randomtraveler2440]

Never before did i realize that a palace boss would awaken something in me

[@JimmysGG]

Persona has some really exciting boss fights!

[@m_e_nere]

Yep

[@QueenRatMan]

akechi is second best boi behind Faz

[@shrexyboi6068]

Man, most of the bosses feel so much better in this game.

[@mute.falcon2509]

Okumura.

[@RandomPerson-kz9uf]

@@mute.falcon2509 *most*

[@Lonewulf321]

Mute.falcon he wasn’t so bad. Not sure why everyone is having so much trouble lol

[@Lonewulf321]

Arkoil annoying maybe... impossible? Hardly. It’s honestly just a exercise in the new baton passing mechanics.

[@Lonewulf321]

Arkoil please speak for yourself and don’t act like you know me. You don’t need AoA to deal damage if you utilize baton pass correctly. This boss is clearly the worst in the game, but not everyone has a pity party over it.

[@extrident7950]

Wait, I kept losing to this boss because in every single fight, she'd always roll on almighty. Was there something I was doing wrong? That almighty one would insta kill me if I wasn't guarding.

[@esthehuman2296]

Extrident use a persona that’s not weak to almighty

[@classydoctor5864]

@@esthehuman2296 I thought it was impossible to be weak against almighty?

[@esthehuman2296]

Classy Doctor yeah but if you have one that doesn’t take as much damage as others would. A persona with an almighty ability etc. You also have to guard because some attacks can basically be one shot

[@pickcollins9910]

If you take too long during the fight she rolls almighty and pretty much Berserker Dances through ur whole team. It can get rough if you aren’t equipped to handle it

[@eanderson9599]

As cool as this boss is, I wish they made it a little harder. Sae just doesn’t hit hard at all

[@eclecticspaghetti]

*Berserker Dance would like to know your location.*

[@DopeioThePhoneBoi]

Unless she hits almighty on that wheel, in which case you're absolutely fucked.

[@davinki5903]

after boss okumura I have quite hard fights ✋🌞

[@RussL08]

In the second phase, her attacks stack if she landed a critical on anybody. My Joker was wiped out from this several times.

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

That, and she gets cheesed by karns outright. Her Phys moves do extreme damage when they get repelled back at her, she seriously should have had Tetrabreak and Makarabreak

[@thomashoward5450]

Out of curiosity, for the DLC is it all coming out right away or is it coming out little by little do you know? I'm hoping to do a Raoul-only playthrough!

[@FazPersona]

Hmmm, i don’t know

[@_TravisTouchdown]

@@FazPersona Don't. Raoul is shit.

[@thangduc667]

Travis Touchdown sleep all poison all yeah how about no

[@m_e_nere]

@@_TravisTouchdown let them do what they want?

[@dwikahaggi6851]

You can get raoul from compendium and all the dlc personas are free for the first summon from compendium. Though i have to say raoul is shit

[@dagothur5813]

I have no idea how some people don't notice the glass panel... Edit: I have a request. Do this fight with only Joker. I want to see if anything changed (from the base game of course). Thanks!

[@player2-lightwater914]

Shadow Sae look like Lady Dimitrescu from Resident Evil: Village.

[@ci7210]

Lady D is probably the same height as Shadow Sae's second phase

[@Alexia24-i8f]

Shadow Sae ha evocato una Persona. Inoltre la canzone è quella del risveglio. Il mio desiderio era vedere Sae unita ai ladri fantasma, ma non è successo, purtroppo. Molti fan vogliono che Sae facesse parte del gruppo.

[@mattemattics5667]

These comments have told me that Almighty isn’t guaranteed, to which I’m calling bullshit. She hit it on the 3rd spin on all 3 of my attempts.

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

Yeah she'll ALWAYS get almighty when you reduce her health by 2/3rd's.

[@ulfk5667]

God, i hate this boss fight. At least on hard. Got wiped out with almighty skills a few times, than she was nearly dead only to hit joker critical at her last turn. And everytime you have to play the useless p1 again and again and again. As much as i love this game, but the bosses getting really worse imo.

[@Thedragonlover95]

The return of the silent hill biker

[@yuno9171]

this version of the boss fight was much easier than the original

[@rusty2322]

This fight was immensely easy

[@shrineofmitski3950]

No... whoever is playing this you should be ashamed of yourself! MEDIA ON MORGANA THIS LATE IN THE GAME HE SHOULD HAVE MEDIARAMA AND THEN YOU GET RID OF DIARAHAN FOR MEDIARAHAN INSTEAD OF GETTING RID OF MEDIA!

[@ChrisHavok]

This the 5th try. I keep getting one hit at the end lmao

[@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective]

Berserker Dance fucking hurts right?

[@davinki5903]

I am traumatized because of the palace and boss okumura and I try to do everything quickly so that the time that is not even there is not over ✋😃📈

[@timom9876]

How are you doing this much damage ??? I only do 80-100

[@mattdrankwalter4521]

The difficulty is on easy

[@genshoryukenpou]

She is winter schnee

[@FlashyLeaf]

I AM THE LAW!

[@cheshiretiger5698]

Prefer her original dialouge for when she changes form....

[@leserbeacerbe6910]

How do you inflict so high dmg damn you ? 900 dmg wtf

[@a_seraph]

Me with my level 71 Yamata No Orochi I just fused:

[@JasonFree]

I'll be honest, this fight was really easy as I just used magic ointment whenever she does the elemental attacks, as she usually targets the one who's weak against it and just crushed her lmao

[@olly_lmao]

That's unacceptable!

[@klaw547]

This was the easiest boss in the game for me.

[@makii3157]

Damn i love gebura

[@makii3157]

But binah is better

[@ryanblade1256]

What's the theme?

[@senortriceratops8929]

1:27 1:26

[@robinthebird6421]

Sae's monster form was actually extremely effed up and unfitting personally.

[@rubydearest]

Imo it kinda represents how she's desperate nd ruthless she turned into in a society completely against her just because she's a woman(the armor all over her body and having such giant weapons). To be resentful to such a reality would be an understatement, she's been pushed back time and time again, forced to take care of Makoto, having a high school being treated better than her despite being his superior and way above him in rank. She's still seen as incompetent by the higher ups as shown having her deadlines cut short bc they didn't care from the beginning(they were also doing cover ups) . While her form is quite extreme it would make sense to have such a ruthless shadow bc she's had to bottle all that shit up ever since she got into that industry.

[@rubydearest]

Sorry for the essay ik u said personally I just hope my explanation can give you some insight!

[@classydoctor5864]

What difficulty is this?

[@arvispresley2373]

Safety, they are only playing for dialouge changes

[@budiono9639]

1:27 plise ost name

[@Black_Swordsman76]

Blooming Villain

[@ciri9142]

Oh no they changed their dialogues 😭😭💔

[@Mr-Moron]

Shame Leviathan's health is made of paper. It could've been a very challenging and brutal fight, and if you take too long it can be. But most of the time (like here), you just one roulette her and she never gets to truly flex her variety and utterly brutal physical and gun attacks.