NEW Secret Project 👉 Build Your Community With SureDash, Courses, Discussions, Events For WordPress

[@SadikAhmedWP]

I believe Fluent Community built something like this. Use case looks similar.

[@WPCrafter]

Good question. This is a tough one to answer because it’s hard to answer without the other product company getting their feelings hurt. So let me answer it objectively, you can draw your own conclusions. Personally, I think the 2 products are trying to solve different problems, but I understand that people will want to compare the two. The main differences are that we are sticking close to core WordPress to ensure all the WordPress capabilities, benefits, 3rd party plugins, etc are fully supported. They have built a standalone side-loading vue.js app. This means it loads along side your website, doesn’t use custom post types, can’t render elements from your 3rd party plugins. For example, if you wanted to add a form built with any form builder, maybe for a quiz or a poll, it can’t render. You can bring things into their app from your plugins. With SureDash we retain all the benefits of what WordPress has to offer, your 3rd party plugins, native WordPress features. For example, you can schedule posts, automate posts, etc. Hooks, filters, custom fields etc. You can bring things into SureDash from your plugins. There are many simple things like this that we can take for granted, but since we are sticking close to WordPress, you get all the benefits. They have built a standalone side-loading vue.js app with custom database tables. Many WordPress functionality won’t not work and many 3rd party plugins will work with it either. It sits alongside your website, vs being a part of it. However they have stated they are going to try to let you take discussions out of their app and into your website. This may be people's preference, but we are building something different. Core Differences: Integration: SureDash is a fully customizable WordPress plugin, seamlessly integrating with your existing site and leveraging its features (plugins, custom fields, hooks, filters, scheduling tools, core WordPress functionality, etc.). Fluent Community, on the other hand, operates as a separate side-loading application alongside your website, which is not compatible with most plugins that may be in your WordPress tech stack and many basic WordPress core capabilities. Scope and Functionality: SureDash aims to provide a comprehensive solution for delivering value via content, courses, community, events, and a resource library, all within a single unified user interface. Fluent Community primarily focuses on discussions, with courses to go along with it. The overall functionality of SureDash is broader today, but that could change. Customization: SureDash's close to core WordPress-based architecture allows for extensive customization to match your branding and specific requirements. Fluent Community, being a standalone side-loading application, offers less flexibility and integration. Performance: SureDash will leverage the Interactivity API for performance within the WordPress environment and we are working on custom database tables. Fluent Community, as a custom vue.js application (which is why most 3rd party plugins don’t work in it), may offer speed advantages in isolation, but this comes at the cost of integration with your existing WordPress setup and plugins. Pricing: SureDash plans will be at a different price point-we're aiming for $399 for 100 sites with a split payment option-compared to Fluent Community's $999 for 50 sites. The best choice depends on your priorities.

[@iXzenoS]

@@WPCrafter Did you use a LLM to create the Core Differences comparison, Adam? 😋

[@zeeshansiddiqui5801]

@@WPCrafter But isn't that BuddyBoss already doing what SureDash does ?

[@scottwestern]

Congrats Adam and all the dev team 👏

[@WPCrafter]

🤜🤛

[@ThePracticalIntuitive]

Wow. I was just looking for an affordable platform to build a community on because I want to leave Facebook. Having this on my WordPress website would be such a convenient idea. Super interested.

[@MIRAJADESIGN]

It's almost as if you are giving me all the tools I have been wanting from WordPress for over a decade. 😃

[@WPCrafter]

Maybe we just think alike :-)

[@iXzenoS]

Some quick feedback after watching the video: DESIGN - Would like to see more granular customizability around various UI elements, e.g.: - cover image dimensions (looked too narrow in video) - main content width - side bar (panel) width - user profile window (its very small and Cover Image is relatively tiny...maybe have the profile photo on the cover instead?) - take some inspiration from FluentCommunity and incorporate what works (nothing wrong with competitor research!) UX & FEATURES - a more natural, intuitive naming convention instead of "Space Group" and "Space" which is overlapping and confusing (e.g. "Category (or Area)" and "Content"). - custom icons (let user upload/select image for Space Groups & Spaces) - tags (like #ProductA for easier search/categorization) - lock/password function for private content (e.g. VIP members, purchased customers, etc.) - a chat/messaging function (public & private chat, private messages, etc.) - whitelabel and/or rebranding (for agencies or serious businesses) INTEGRATIONS - Would love to see "SureCRM" developed (with an early-bird unlimited LTD, like FluentCRM offered many years ago🥰) which would synergize so perfectly within the Sure+WordPress ecosystem.

[@SujayPawar]

Stars are aligning ✨🌟✨

[@MIRAJADESIGN]

Indeed!

[@eLearningWP]

I love how competitive is getting the WP online communities space. Will mean raising the bar and getting better products for all of us! Really like that seems to be built "the WordPress way", which should make it extensible. Looking forward to taking it for a spin! Good luck with it, Adam and Team!

[@AthloneH]

This is delicious! Awesome job SureDash team! I'm onboard!

[@WPCrafter]

Thank you so much

[@SamFrysteen]

Good timing with Fluent releasing their over priced version of this. Question: hiding courses behind payment based on single payments per course or a membership that allows members to see several courses... is this possible now and what systems will it support?

[@kylebehrend]

I have been waiting sooooo long for this lol. Cannot wait!

[@WPCrafter]

Me too, I am making this with myself in mind :-)

[@jpflynnoz]

Fantastic - exceeds my expectations! Looking forward to Wednesday...

[@priteshpawar3891]

Wow! UI looks so smooth and clean

[@wproads]

Looks beautiful! Looking forward to test SureDash :)

[@Practical-IT]

So, this looks pretty amazing. The question is about accessibility. What has been to ensure it is all as close to WCAG 2.1 AA compliant. Working in an industry that has a compliance mandate, ive been more curious about this before purchasing. Have you tested with screen readers and with high contrast color schemes? This product has some really amazing potential, and i would consider trying it for a personal project.

[@SumanD-BSF]

Very excited about SureDash, the interface looks so interesting and easy to build! 😃😍😍😍

[@michalkocis8934]

Looks fantastic even in this stage Adam!

[@AdityaPadalkar-y7z]

Wow, It seems super flexible and easy to set up, which is awesome.

[@daveden2]

This looks very exciting. I can't wait to try it out.

[@AnilAgrawal]

Super pumped about this!

[@ahsgois]

Is there a roadmap? from tomorrow can we try the plugin for free before buy the license? how will handle this plugin 20 000 member?

[@TrystanD]

I don't see in the video how quizzes or assessments occur in the courses. Also, how would certificates be issued?

[@nyoracl]

Agency membership = 100 sites. Meaning, 100 different domains or sub domains? And it means 100 individual course creators? How will we bill the course creators to give them access. And how will the members for the course creators access payment gateway where the course creator gets to receive payment and enroll them automatically into the course upon checkout?

[@cassianmx]

Looking forward to it!

[@WPCrafter]

Thanks! It's been a long time coming.

[@webgeneral]

Looks very promising!

[@JonDavisJr]

Thanks Adam. I am looking forward to this.

[@amitgupta27]

Congrats Adam & the team. Looking forward to it. Just a quick one, would it be possible to assign users/ have managers role to manage the entire suredash from the frontend and not have to give them wp backend access?

[@WPCrafter]

Thank you! And that's a great question. Our early release will need access to the backend for managing and moderating. However, we have already received feedback that it would be nice to be able to do these things on the front end as well. So we will start assessing what we need to build for that and get to work.

[@shamankatie]

Fantastic 🎉 can’t wait

[@SamuelPeifferOfficial]

Can you use thrive architect on these pages?

[@icehounddigital]

Do you have a better explanation of what the "events" feature will look like? How it functions?

[@tomnoreilde8032]

Facebook 3.0 :p Love it.

[@WPCrafter]

Yes sir!

[@andrewmiles7773]

Looks great Adam! May I ask how subscribers / admins get notifications of things happening in discussions? Will there be settings for our SMTP to handle these?

[@WPCrafter]

Yes, we're going to have a robust notification system. So admin will get a notice inside of SureDash and optionally can get a notice via email.

[@joey_williams]

Looks good. Can you embed s within lessons?

[@WPCrafter]

Yep, you can add s anywhere, including lessons.

[@NMOTV1]

Very tempting. How can one get the 25% discount you’ve mentioned (I meet the requirements).

[@WPCrafter]

The discount is for people that have purchased a SureMembers lifetime plan in the past. We did send an email to everyone that purchased SureMembers lifetime plan in the past on how to redeem it. Simply log into the SureMembers customer area and if you have purchased a lifetime plan in the past, you'll see a notice there to generate a unique coupon for you.

[@webandfree]

Great job !

[@WPCrafter]

Thank you!

[@markuserikssen]

Looks pretty neat! Just curious: what are the main differences between SureMembers and SureDash?

[@WPCrafter]

That's a great question! SureMembers is for controlling access, it's mostly a backend plug-in. That gives you great controls over what someone can access and when. On the other hand SureDash is a front and experience on how you deliver the content to people. They both serve different purposes, but worked beautifully together.

[@markuserikssen]

@@WPCrafter Thanks, that makes sense to me! I will check it out!

[@kevinroberts3789]

Really looking forward to this. Fluent Community is slick but LMS feature is limited by having no quiz capability or direct integration with Fluent Forms. So you can't include (as far as I can see) a Fluent form in an LMS lesson, or a Fluent Form Quiz in the same. I assume by being close to core, SureDash won't have those limitations.

[@WPCrafter]

That is exactly it. All your 3rd party plugins, which make WordPress powerful, will work with SureDash. We have this approach because most creators already have their preferred stack of tools and we didn't want to limit how people use SureDash.

[@disciplinefreedom3083]

@@WPCrafter This was what I saw, I checked out Fluent Community but it is so tied in with their own products. By force not choice. So waiting for Sure Dash even it if I just use it as community solution for my courses.

[@disciplinefreedom3083]

Are we going to have a big grid of courses? I have 100 on various subjects.

[@WPCrafter]

Yes we do have plans for this. So if you saw from the demo site I created, on the top left menu area, where I had announcements and I had events, to put an option there called courses that would list out all the courses in a grid.

[@disciplinefreedom3083]

@@WPCrafter Sounds great. I am in.

[@SamuelPeifferOfficial]

Will it have DMs?

[@Farhan-l4g6o]

This is pretty cool!!

[@WPCrafter]

Thank you

[@Multilive1000]

Really nice!

[@WPCrafter]

Thank you.

[@davivodk]

According to PWA how does it work? Is it something we have to develop or do Suredash develop it and is it free?

[@mokhalaf13]

We have plenty of quizes and questions, How sure dash control quiz progress and manage questions bank

[@Sky-yj8wx]

Can quizes be hosted in SureDash now and fully functional with the Pro version or is SureForms needed for that to complete? Or will anything else needed to make quizes functional with feedback?

[@newt.acheron]

What VPS configuration we will need for this to work snappy?

[@helal7712]

Hello Adam, does Suredash support RTL?

[@UriahMoisesGomes]

What happens once you reach 100 licenses? Is there an automatic expansion, an additional payment? I would appreciate it if you could explain how it works!

[@ONLINEGROWTH_SPACE]

will it be a white label?

[@WPCrafter]

We actually haven't considered that, a white label option. This is the first time it's been requested.

[@bryankjones]

Regarding events, Will we be able to add live video streams with payment/ticket options?

[@WPCrafter]

Hey, so they initial implementation for events is, you create an even with a date, time, and link to where the event will take place, for example Zoom or whichever platform. You members can RSVP and ask questions in advance. If you streaming service allows you to embed the video stream, it can be embedded into SureDash. I can see how you could sell access to an event and stream it live inside of SureDash to people that have paid for it. I will keep this in mind, maybe make a video on it.

[@bryankjones]

@@WPCrafter Thank you. However, if I were to use KZbin, then anyone would be able to share the native link externally. I'm guessing that a secondary service like Vimeo which can lock the strream to a specific domain would be needed as well. Any thoughts?

[@WPCrafter]

​@@bryankjones Yea, you would want to use a service that can be embedded. But I think the best use is just to send people to a Zoom or similar, record it, then add the edited video later to the Event listing.

[@KaiBuskirk]

Was there a SureBundle for Black Friday?

[@bob-p7x6j]

Not that I am aware of, was asked about in FB and I believe they said they wanted to keep everything separate.....

[@BibhatsuKuiri]

Where is the plan list? I can't see?

[@PaulVoorberg]

What if you purchased cartflows and presto player and not suremembers - will you get 25% off also? And also, what's the difference between cartflows and surecart?

[@WPCrafter]

It's SureMembers because there is a bit of overlap between the two products.

[@Jannahlifeskills]

How about suremember? Do we need suremember if we use suredash?

[@WPCrafter]

That is a great question! We build our products so that they work fantastic together, but our approach is that they're not dependent upon each other. My experience has been that users don't like when one product is dependent upon another product. In this situation, with SureDash you can give people access to everything with a purchase/registration, or have it be open to everyone. If you want more granular access controls, and maybe drip feeding content, that's where SureMembers is a great addition.

[@futureproof001]

How about moderation for a community site with groups? We need to be able to prevent spammers post or attacks and improper behavior/words etc.

[@The_Giorgio]

Hi, there is something to easily migrate customres from learndash courses to suredash ?

[@WPCrafter]

After we have our first release, we will see what can be done in terms of migration. Migration can be a challenge, but if we could pull off a good portion of it, I think it would be good for people. We also want people to be able to use LearnDash with SureDash if that is what they want.

[@HadeeRoslan]

@@WPCrafter migration from FluentCommunity perhaps?

[@DBCVC]

Can't wait until this is developed for Brizy Cloud?

[@WPCrafter]

In a few months, you'll be able to use SureCart with that website building platform. You'll be able to use SureCart with any website building platform.

[@best-memories-on-tv]

Bought sureforms (2000 sites). Can you please match the number of sites (suredash 2000 sites). In the video you said the highest tier will have 100 sites. Please reconsider. I'm ok with little price increase.

[@SanjuKunwar-b3g]

I agree adam....somehow i managed to get unlimited sites for suremembers...but atleast 2000 sites to match sureforms would be a resonable ask.

[@RabinPal1]

agree

[@bob-p7x6j]

yeah, same boat with big plan of SureForms recently

[@mrferheng]

Why not build a central plugin to execute many tasks. For example integraring Suremembers. Sure Triggers. Sure Cart into this plugin and run like Kajabi. Now it is very confusing. By the way i like your plugins.

[@WPCrafter]

Personally, I prefer this modular approach where you can just add the features that you need versus having the big plug-in that has everything in it. Even if you're not needing or wanting those things.

[@andytlaird]

Adam - why did you delete my comment!

[@WPCrafter]

I haven't deleted any comments, I'd appreciate if you don't jump to that conclusion. This is an issue with KZbin and all channels are experiencing it where KZbin has some AI models or algorithms that will block comments. It happens to me when I leave comments on videos as well. You should know me better than that.

[@WhySoBroke]

Uugghhh… I hate WP

[@bob-p7x6j]

It is getting much better with ideas like these, how much would this cost to create from scratch???