NEW Smash Ultimate Sheik Tech: Slowfall Up-Air

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Sheik in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate has always struggled against one defensive option: DI Out. That's where Slowfall Up-Air comes in.
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@beniswell5437
@beniswell5437 11 ай бұрын
THANKS VOID! Now that I know how to up air properly my wife gives me eye contact, the kids call me dad and not my first name, and my friends put me back in the group chat! Thx!
@Caronage_
@Caronage_ 11 ай бұрын
cap
@danystone
@danystone 11 ай бұрын
Legend
@Creepo_J
@Creepo_J 11 ай бұрын
Inspiring
@FunnyGamer-pn2xr
@FunnyGamer-pn2xr 10 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@doomedshadow7501
@doomedshadow7501 11 ай бұрын
Learning Slowfall Up Air has changed my reality. I got a girlfriend after my first SFUA. I feel more confident in my everyday life. I got a promotion at work and now make over 500k. Guys, seriously learn SFUA if u want to make a change to your life!!!
@Liam-mv9zi
@Liam-mv9zi 11 ай бұрын
Crops are thriving, pores are clearing, bills are paid 🙌
@CommentPositionInformer
@CommentPositionInformer 11 ай бұрын
Lol, I love thay you chose Sephiroth specifically to demonstrate the combos 😂
@proeuk3205
@proeuk3205 11 ай бұрын
Well you know, he got all that practice cooking nairo
@megamanxfan02
@megamanxfan02 11 ай бұрын
⁠optimal
@Jknight416
@Jknight416 11 ай бұрын
He’s also pretty tall as well. Which makes the Uair easier to land.
@pitybreaker6625
@pitybreaker6625 11 ай бұрын
So the advantage of this UAir is that you can start it earlier and the enemy falls slower meaning you can get more follow ups? Thats sick!
@cadaver7334
@cadaver7334 11 ай бұрын
Never in my life have I expected to see more new sheik tech after peak sheik was seemingly already reached.
@drdepression4605
@drdepression4605 11 ай бұрын
Welcome to fighting games. In a year there will be more probably
@Cupoforangejuice15
@Cupoforangejuice15 11 ай бұрын
Oh god there's so much more to sheik
@noice8911
@noice8911 11 ай бұрын
I’ve been doing this tech with Joker for a while now. It helps specifically with fair one up air combos since you can reliably get all four hits of it more consistently imo. I’m not really sure about Sheik, but I think you can replace almost all of your short hop up airs with this method for more consistent combos in general
@protecterofkatz
@protecterofkatz 11 ай бұрын
Joker’s up air does this sort of thing more easily. I always struggled with sheik drag down combos but never with Joker
@angelaguilar3340
@angelaguilar3340 11 ай бұрын
For anyone that’s needs tips. Make sure you buffer dash and short hop after a down tilt or f tilt. It is possible with buffered up air but it’s less reliable
@mysticsquirtle5109
@mysticsquirtle5109 11 ай бұрын
Been wanting to play Sheik for a while but always struggled with using both jab and up air, up air especially coming from a character like Joker, so this explained a lot and I instantly was able to joop in training mode after watching
@Mindgamingu
@Mindgamingu 11 ай бұрын
Use the C stick to easily drag down up air. It’s not as hard as it seems
@memenazi7078
@memenazi7078 11 ай бұрын
@@Mindgaminguremember when u got bodied by ganon?
@mysticsquirtle5109
@mysticsquirtle5109 11 ай бұрын
@@Mindgamingu it’s not difficult, I do that already, it’s more that I wasn’t aware of why the up air would combo sometimes but not others
@mellowbeatz93
@mellowbeatz93 11 ай бұрын
Igotchu folks, How to do it: 1:40
@00blazzer2
@00blazzer2 11 ай бұрын
1:53 It appears like the slow-fall up-air still makes use of fast-falling, but the difference is the short dash forward, at least to catch di-away, as well as the earlier start-time of the up-air.
@futurfry
@futurfry 11 ай бұрын
I was wondering how you were hitting that against nairo so consistently
@iota7037
@iota7037 11 ай бұрын
3:20 WoW
@Augustus228
@Augustus228 8 ай бұрын
Love how this sounds like an old 2000s tv commercial.
@Clubvirg
@Clubvirg 11 ай бұрын
Nice. This is basically a compilation video of tech from the Sheik discord. I'm glad somebody finally made this, cuz folks in the Discord aren't really content creators, thus causing things like this to be known only by active members. Thanks for doing this Void 👍🏾 everything was clear, concise, and demonstrated well
@tatejensen381
@tatejensen381 11 ай бұрын
The way u say the combo names is killing me lmao “JOOPS!”
@swagtoaster9782
@swagtoaster9782 6 ай бұрын
I was practicing sheik today and I didn't even realize I was doing this when practicing ftilt upair loops lol. Definitely gonna try to utilize it more with these different combos if I commit to the character!
@mysticsquirtle5109
@mysticsquirtle5109 11 ай бұрын
Btw this is also applicable with Joker, but you need to get the 4th hit, not the 3rd, and it only helps on certain characters, or when doing the infinite. It’s not something you need to know with him unlike Sheik, but it can definitely be useful!
@DontWatchAdsJustRefresh
@DontWatchAdsJustRefresh 11 ай бұрын
Cool! Can't wait to see you pull off those jab shenanigans on someone! Also hype you uploaded!!!! Lets go Void!!
@randomguy8107
@randomguy8107 11 ай бұрын
WebbJP did some last weekend at LMMM
@stephsbonsaistudio8784
@stephsbonsaistudio8784 11 ай бұрын
This makes a lot of sense since its mechanically really similar to pikachu lightning loops
@ViralWinter
@ViralWinter 11 ай бұрын
VoiD creating modern Sheik content??? WE ARE SOOO BACK!!!! 👑
@fabianosoriani
@fabianosoriani 11 ай бұрын
Good stuff, you significantly improved this (imo bad) char's # of positive interactions to take a stock! Sheik might be up a whole tier now.
@FerousFolly
@FerousFolly 11 ай бұрын
tldr: fast fall after the third hit to prevent the dragdown using fastfall momentum
@Bladieblah
@Bladieblah 5 ай бұрын
You are correct, it is essentially fast-falling after the third hit. Now let me explain why that wasn't obvious for a long time. If you'd try to let them fall down slowly from a dragdown at low percent you simply will not be able to combo because they can act before they hit the ground. Because of this, the reliable method for dragdowns for years has been to get them down to the ground as quickly as possible and for all dragdown applications this method has always done it's job. There was never really a reason to look anywhere else, and since letting them fall early was known to be "bad" from labbing at early percent, no one bothered to experiment with it. What makes this inventive is that it defies the basic intuitions you pick up when you first experiment with dragdowns. Kudos to Void!
@phoenixpinna
@phoenixpinna 11 ай бұрын
Not sure if it’s new tech but I just figured out you can use grab to dair out of footstool giving you a buffered air dodge if you miss or the dair if you hit.
@sauce8277
@sauce8277 11 ай бұрын
This videos explains why I died to a sheik by a non sweet spot up air in a combo yesterday. LOL I thought he just got….. “Lucky!”
@Sidney_TSG
@Sidney_TSG 11 ай бұрын
Combos showcased on Seph specificly to tilt Nairo
@capin_no
@capin_no 11 ай бұрын
not sure how applicable it is with di and defensive options, but i did some messing around with it. i was able to hit f tilt/d tilt > slow fall up air > up smash on characters with similar fall speed to steve at about 90%. again, i didn't test with mashing jump or air dodge or any di so it might not be true at all, but i thought it would be a fun idea to entertain
@im_Spade_
@im_Spade_ 11 ай бұрын
I like how void's arm has somehow shifted to Light's
@LyonCK
@LyonCK 11 ай бұрын
void entered the light zone with the one sleeve up lol
@marshthelastmallo7738
@marshthelastmallo7738 11 ай бұрын
Nairo be fuming secretly on his alt accounts
@jancarlosayala2321
@jancarlosayala2321 8 ай бұрын
thats classic and almost the only way to do upper-dragdown with greninja
@cadaver7334
@cadaver7334 11 ай бұрын
VOID TRY THIS I WAS LABBING: On 80% (did this on ROB) Dtilt > slow Uair dd > joop (repeat 3 times) ON THE THIRD JOOP of the third Upair just do RAW down air up into down air up smash, I tried it and it might actually be legit
@chrisb8698
@chrisb8698 11 ай бұрын
I thought this was found out a LOOOONG time ago? Am i tripping? lmao
@atiki8063
@atiki8063 11 ай бұрын
This is the "Be float" of sheik tech
@Kniightisa
@Kniightisa 11 ай бұрын
All that with one sleeve rolled up, man's only at 50% power.
@DarkThomy
@DarkThomy 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, pretty sure you and webbjp were doing that recently and I was like "wow, is this New?.."
@rpepero4774
@rpepero4774 11 ай бұрын
they've unlocked the joker drag down game everybody hide
@jamesp2595
@jamesp2595 11 ай бұрын
To honor Nairo we should call them Marvel Up Airs
@pitybreaker6625
@pitybreaker6625 11 ай бұрын
Will you do a video on the up air kill confirms you have been labbing some days ago?
@gsmVoiD
@gsmVoiD 11 ай бұрын
Yes I will :)
@zandark5045
@zandark5045 11 ай бұрын
Every time I drop this character cuz online a burst of inspiration comes from somewhere. This is so cool
@yrneh755
@yrneh755 11 ай бұрын
Watching you use this in person to beat lammers last contender was kinda crazy lol
@Jknight416
@Jknight416 11 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t this Uair tech also apply to Joker as well? Both him and Sheik essentially have the same exact Uair attack.
@akiraseinaru
@akiraseinaru 11 ай бұрын
The time has come. Sheik mains will rule
@titusfrederick240
@titusfrederick240 11 ай бұрын
This is sick! Also what’s up with the one sleeve up and one sleeve down near the end of the video?
@moonbeam2730
@moonbeam2730 11 ай бұрын
this seems like it has some real promise
@Spyder-Marth
@Spyder-Marth 11 ай бұрын
You found a new Sheik tech using up air! That is siiiick! Love the videos, Void! I found potential Marth ladder combos with Up Air, too. It's quite silly.
@memenazi7078
@memenazi7078 11 ай бұрын
Marth has a 0-death with fast fall up air
@clay2889
@clay2889 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Void! You are very inspiring to all the Sheik mains out there
@richie7237
@richie7237 11 ай бұрын
Imagine this flipping the Steve MU
@jude_210
@jude_210 11 ай бұрын
Alright void you got me I'm a sheik believer now
@autoimmunedefficiencysyndrome
@autoimmunedefficiencysyndrome 11 ай бұрын
I been doing this, just thought of it as delaying a combo sequence
@koburra
@koburra 11 ай бұрын
Is it weird that this is how I've been U-airing with Shiek already? lol
@rafaelconcepcion895
@rafaelconcepcion895 11 ай бұрын
I hope marss can find something for himself too.
@gadget2622
@gadget2622 11 ай бұрын
*Switches from being a joker main to a sheik main*
@TheMafiat
@TheMafiat 11 ай бұрын
Even though this might not seem like muvh of a difference from a first glance as a shiek player I can tell that this is insanely big for consistency and making combos stupid long
@matthiashopkins7502
@matthiashopkins7502 11 ай бұрын
Nairo: the bullshi keeps piling up
@TheKapitanOasis
@TheKapitanOasis 11 ай бұрын
Ah the greninja tech
@dubstepmummy4849
@dubstepmummy4849 11 ай бұрын
What could be possible if you do this from under a plat, then drag them onto the plat? I wonder if you could do the other half of a raindrop. Or U-tilt, or f-tilt, or rar backair, etc... I have no idea, but it seems like an interesting and odd situation you force your opponent into, and imo unfamiliar
@FancyPotatOS
@FancyPotatOS 11 ай бұрын
I assume in this case, the upair will combo at slightly later percents compared to ffua? Since they don’t necessarily have the landing lag, they need enough hitstun to allow you to throw something new out. Or, is the hitstun consistent with regular ffua?
@luismagondelles4220
@luismagondelles4220 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much crack 🙏🏼🔥🙏🏼🔥
@OG_Fireflare
@OG_Fireflare 11 ай бұрын
"Wow!" 😁 Great video! Great Content!
@widower
@widower 11 ай бұрын
now that i really know how this works, I got no excuses as a Sheik player!!
@danielscheuermann8883
@danielscheuermann8883 8 ай бұрын
does it work with a buffered UA (is it that already?) or would it be too ealry?
@graysonnelms5956
@graysonnelms5956 11 ай бұрын
Are you able to auto short hop into this? Or does this only work with a timed input?
@Hippienolic2
@Hippienolic2 11 ай бұрын
So you’re still fast falling, but not starting the fall until later?
@sauce8277
@sauce8277 11 ай бұрын
Remember when they nerfed Palu because her combos were a entire Cut Scene…..😭😭 No nerfs this time 😅
@luke8324
@luke8324 11 ай бұрын
I don't play Sheik. Is this a rising up-air but input slightly after short-hop input?
@0oShwavyo0
@0oShwavyo0 11 ай бұрын
Just to confirm that I understand it, is the difference from standard ffua that you start the up air before the peak of your jump, versus delaying until the peak of your jump for a normal one? So you’re still fast falling before the 4th hit, but you’re just higher in the air because the aerial started sooner?
@Bladieblah
@Bladieblah 5 ай бұрын
The key difference is fast-falling after the third hit, rather than after the second. You can start the up-air sooner because you don't have to fast-fall as early (you can only FF once you reached the apex of your jump).
@kraiden8745
@kraiden8745 11 ай бұрын
what will you unlock if you do this with Joker? Since they are having similar up-air
@rmlgaming2091
@rmlgaming2091 11 ай бұрын
Congrats void, this is a great find
@rafaelconcepcion895
@rafaelconcepcion895 11 ай бұрын
Does this mean that wiil you attend to ultimate tournament more often?
@NemSumeragi
@NemSumeragi 11 ай бұрын
You're telling me this isn't how y'all have been doing drag downs?
@danielscheuermann8883
@danielscheuermann8883 8 ай бұрын
I feel the same way. Maybe it wasn't declared, but some people already (myself included) may have used it unintentionally
@judahdeitrich2482
@judahdeitrich2482 11 ай бұрын
is there every any reason to do an up air drag down the old way now? or is this just better?
@benjiman6861
@benjiman6861 11 ай бұрын
Back to the lab again
@Snootedits
@Snootedits 11 ай бұрын
Does anyone know if Greninja can do something similar with his up air?
@typhlosion7872
@typhlosion7872 11 ай бұрын
Share this with WebbJP before Watch the Throne happens
@itsCrust
@itsCrust 11 ай бұрын
the Year of the Sheik..... yes......... good...............
@loursjudoka
@loursjudoka 11 ай бұрын
Is it a rising up air or a landing up air ?
@Creepo_J
@Creepo_J 11 ай бұрын
Just a difference in delay with upair
@blackberry4322
@blackberry4322 9 ай бұрын
So just uair earlier?
@zacattack763
@zacattack763 11 ай бұрын
Void, how applicable would you say is this tech?
@mynamejot8623
@mynamejot8623 11 ай бұрын
here I was doing this every time I picked up shiek in friendlies because I thought this was just how you do it (I do not play shiek)
@mrmunchin2578
@mrmunchin2578 11 ай бұрын
ong i was labbing raindrop earlier this week and found slowfall uair being useful. i thought it was cool. when void finds it?? bro. will. cook.
@justiceavera6486
@justiceavera6486 11 ай бұрын
ayoooo new tech? 👀
@athoth8416
@athoth8416 11 ай бұрын
can u find pichu tech now pls
@stepheni7471
@stepheni7471 11 ай бұрын
Can Joker do this too?
@Miracle7Seven
@Miracle7Seven 11 ай бұрын
Sheik CAN kill?!! ( ゚д゚)
@MicrowavedFurby
@MicrowavedFurby 11 ай бұрын
I still don't understand why/how this makes it possible to hit DI away
@silica142
@silica142 11 ай бұрын
Since you can start the up air sooner, you have more time to dash up to catch the di
@MicrowavedFurby
@MicrowavedFurby 11 ай бұрын
@@silica142 but what does slow falling have to do with the startup time?
@scythear
@scythear 11 ай бұрын
@@MicrowavedFurby The "slowfall" happens because you hit the up air on the opponent sooner and drag them down for less of its hits. It's only called the slowfall because that's what it does to opponents but in effect its a faster drag down.
@isaacldi2643
@isaacldi2643 11 ай бұрын
Why is he covering only one shoulder
@isaacldi2643
@isaacldi2643 11 ай бұрын
Is it itchy
@irusu.
@irusu. 11 ай бұрын
Man you're the best
@nathanlevesque7812
@nathanlevesque7812 11 ай бұрын
...so just time your fast fall rather than doing it for the whole move. That's fundies afaik.
@jbl271
@jbl271 11 ай бұрын
You’re da 🐐
@phnkz3180
@phnkz3180 11 ай бұрын
So sick
@incinemvs
@incinemvs 11 ай бұрын
Hype!
@BamboJ.
@BamboJ. 11 ай бұрын
lego void 🐐
@mandykamiya
@mandykamiya 11 ай бұрын
let's go void!! ♥
@fynn.3436
@fynn.3436 11 ай бұрын
Goat 🐐
@cullenhutchison6528
@cullenhutchison6528 11 ай бұрын
You mean this isn't how it was always supposed to be performed? I guess I had misunderstood then. Edit: I'm not a Sheik main or anything, but whenever I did play Sheik this is what I would always attempt (and usually fail) to do.
@UrAverageGamer9000
@UrAverageGamer9000 11 ай бұрын
Yeah the usual tech has been to input the uair at the peak of your shorthop. Now it seems it's actually way better to input the uair as you're rising, but not buffered with shorthop.
@ppbacik
@ppbacik 11 ай бұрын
Note that both the usual fast falling up air and slow fall up air have their uses - the usual fast fall up air has much more frame advantage so only that one will ever combo into fsmash, or upsmash on a platform without rage. But at higher percents or with more rage when you dont need the extra hitstun then slow fall up air lets you hit dragdowns in more scenarios and keep them in the air which is sometimes better
@bubrub23
@bubrub23 11 ай бұрын
🐐🐐🐐🐐
@B1ngleB0mb
@B1ngleB0mb 11 ай бұрын
Not me playing sheik bc she is fine asf
@nwz6084
@nwz6084 11 ай бұрын
sheik mains need to stop coping and just use a top tier.
@Margarnet
@Margarnet 11 ай бұрын
ive been doing this forever i dont get it LMAO is this a joke
@memenazi7078
@memenazi7078 11 ай бұрын
Smash has the worst names for moves ever. Why you call it slowfall when you’re fastfalling?
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