New Star Wars Lightsaber - Awesome or Useless? - MOVIE FIGHTS!

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2:54 FIGHT 1: Best moment of the Star Wars Episode 7 teaser?
10:55 FIGHT 2: New Star Wars lightsaber: like or dislike?
15:45 FIGHT 3: Does the Terminator: Genisys trailer excite us?
23:32 FIGHT 4: Most unnecessary sequel of all time?
31:15 FIGHT 5: Best James Bond?
39:50 FIGHT 6: Greatest movie death scene?
44:26 FIGHT 7: Best actor to join a superhero franchise?
55:48 FIGHT 8: Which property should Marvel Studios get back?
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[@KassemG]

Everything I know about Star Wars I learned from Space Balls.

[@MikeeYowee]

On a scale from 1-10, how high are you?

[@igot2k]

I love you

[@Buckpwns]

I love that one movie more then 4 out of the 6 star wars ones

[@blargfish]

Then why were u there u just looked foolish and pissed me off who loves star wars

[@esdev92]

Make more videos, you fuck.

[@ther3aper561]

Consider, for example, the difference between Obi-Wan Kenobi's blue, single-bladed lightsaber as seen in A New Hope (which conveys that he is a gentleman knight from a more elegant time) and Darth Maul's red double-bladed lightsaber from The Phantom Menace (which is the weapon of a ferocious and incredibly agile animal who will stop at nothing to draw blood). Neither of these weapons is practical in any real sense of the word, because a laser sword that can effortlessly cut through anything can never be practical: you'd dismember yourself the first time you accidentally tapped yourself with it. But when Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Maul fight at the end of The Phantom Menace, it is the fact that they are fighting with these swords in particular that tells us everything we need to know about what is actually at stake: the end of a more civilized and enlightened time, and the beginning of an age of bloodshed, cruelty, and strife. So when judging the new lightsaber in The Force Awakens trailer, the first thing we should be judging it by is what it tells us about its owner. Which is a lot.

[@ther3aper561]

In the Star Wars movies there are only ever two Sith Lords: a master and an apprentice. So when Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader die at the end of Return of the Jedi, that's it. The Sith are extinct. Yet here's maybe Adam Driver, wielding a Sith lightsaber, around 30 years after the end of the Sith Order. Where did he get it?

[@ther3aper561]

Did he find it? It's possible, but every clue in the trailer suggests that he made it. Notice how the lightsaber sputters, crackles, and flickers as the character turns it on. As io9 notes, that's a sign of shoddy workmanship. But don't just look at it, listen to it. The sound of a lightsaber turning on is always smooth around the edges, but this lightsaber sounds dirty, and full of static. These are all design choices, consciously made to tell us, the viewers, something about what we're seeing.

[@ther3aper561]

Listen to the trailer's narration. "There has been an awakening. Have you felt it? The dark side." Combined with everything else, that says everything you need to know: The Force Awakens is about the rebirth of the Sith after their destruction. The character in the trailer is formative to that. And without a master to guide him, he's rebuilding the Sith order from scratch, which includes figuring out how to create a lightsaber for himself, warts and all. So if the anonymous villain created this lightsaber himself, why did he design it with a crossguard at all? Simple: he knows he's vulnerable to getting his hands cut off, because he's not skilled. He has no training. If a regular lightsaber is a katana, this is a claymore: a brutal and unsophisticated weapon favored by a vicious, untrained fighter who is relying upon brute strength to chop his opponents to pieces.

[@ther3aper561]

The crossguard says so much about the character wielding it. After all of the silly lightsaber ballet of the prequels, it opens up a whole new dynamic, and immediately differentiates the character in the trailer from every Star Wars baddie who has come before him. This isn't the lightsaber of a trained warrior in his prime, like in the prequels, or a retired Jedi who hasn't fought in 30 years, like in Episodes IV through VI. This is the lightsaber of a bloodthirsty young berserker.

[@ther3aper561]

Which is why, from a cinematic perspective, the lightsaber crossguard we're seeing in The Force Awakens trailer is such incredible design. It's not just visually arresting. It's efficient. We know what we're seeing immediately, no explanation needed. And not only that, it illuminates a character's personality, and fighting style with just the flip of a switch. It helps tell a story. And when it comes to the language of cinema, that's the only design problem worth solving.

[@michaelpittman8045]

The best movie death of all time is Boromir in Lord of the Rings. It was great in the books, and it was great on screen. Loved it!

[@TheMastreano]

+MIchael Pittman that would've been my choice...also No Heath Ledger?!

[@anamorgana.]

"My brother. My captain. My king." :')

[@MsStormcrow]

I agree one of the best movie deaths ever portrayed on film.

[@stevie_ily]

why do so few star wars fans realize that half of the Stormtroopers are recruited and not clones?

[@Werin69]

ALL of them are recruits by the time of the original trilogy.

[@stevie_ily]

really, all? I would think that they had to have less cloning because of stretched dna. but in force unleashed you see the massive factory in kamino.

[@Fudo94]

stevenisminecraft In force unleashed, yes. Is that even cannon? The kaminoans refused to create more clones after Order 66, if I remember correctly.

[@Werin69]

Fudo94 Exactly, The Force Unleashed is not canon. It has been confirmed a couple of times on Star Wars.com that all the clones are dead. In Star Wars Rebels, there is an episode where we see young boys being trained up as Stormtroopers.

[@stevie_ily]

shame, as far as story, I would have loved force unleashed to have been canon

[@CptRexFilms987654321]

STORMTROOPERS ARE NOT CLONES!!! After the events of Order 66, the Kamanoains (long-necked Cloners from AOTC) created a rebel clone army to fight the Empire. The 501st unit was sent to defeat them and destroy the remaining Jango Fett DNA so they could never clone again. The empire disbanded clones and relied on recruitment after that. This is why there is a significant difference in skill between the Clones and Stormtroopers! (Explained in the Star Wars Battlefront 2 campaign)

[@godseaterproductions31]

now i'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you but i just wanna ask a question. is battlefront cannon?

[@jadenparker6704]

+GodsEaterProductions I don't know if Battlefront is cannon, but there is many references in the movies that Stormtroopers are recruited

[@TallMist]

GodsEaterProductions No. All that is canon anymore are the live action films, Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and Star Wars: Rebels, as well as any EU released after then.

[@sudokuboy9]

This comment needs more upvotes so people know the truth. (And it is not just a Battlefront easter egg, it is a universally accepted truth in the star wars universe. Stormtroopers are recruited

[@daniel-son428]

Thank god finally someone else knows the real history behind this

[@tmack4697]

Actually, the Storm Troopers are not clones. Remember when they said that clones age quickly? So at this point, the clones are basically either too old to fight, or they died of old age. The Storm troopers, if you watch Star Wars Rebels, are volunteers who enlist into the army. (Like the system today)

Yeah!! This guys don`t know anything...

[@natanfk2]

But why are they weak minded, then, if they are normal volunteers?

[@tmack4697]

Because it was convienient to the story-line :)

[@Riggzon]

Someone with some sense around here :D

[@GamerWho]

natanfk2 can't all be 501st.

[@lukehameloth4020]

I feel like a lot of people don't actually realize the use for the "Cross guard" on Kylo Ren's lightsaber, the story behind it is that Kylo Ren is a self taught Sith, technically not even belonging to the Order of the Sith. And being self taught, he didn't have an instructor in building his lightsaber. So the "Cross Guards" aren't even cross guards at all, as a matter of fact they are vents coming out of the lightsaber. And in the argument of the black stormtrooper, theoretically there could have been thousands of them in the ranks of the Empire but we'll never know because they have their helmets on. But my basis on this is that Clone Troopers and Storm Troopers are two entirely different armies, Clones have a very short life span (As they were bred for war there was no use for them to have long lives) and there is no way they could have survived all the way from Revenge of the Sith to The New Hope, so the Empire set up training/recruiting camps all across the galaxy and these are were the Storm Troopers were trained. This is supported by the Disney show Star Wars Rebels where in one of the episodes the main antagonist is under cover in one of these training camps. All though I'm not sure if the show is 100% cannon but it gives at least a little bit of evidence to support my case.

[@PaddyCollector]

You guys are insane. The terminator trailer was fucking terrible. old arnold is good? what the hell are you talking about? old arnold delivering the same "ill be back" line? abosolutely terrible it looks incredibly low budget. even the scars on john conner's face look homemade, overdone, and cheesy. they are stealing entire scenes from the other movies. talk about lazy. and YES salvation was good. a solid 6.5 out of 10 movie.

[@PaddyCollector]

1. I understand how it makes sense to the story but arnold is almost 70 years old. He hasn't been in a decent movie for nearly 20 years. He needs to just go away. Just look at his imdb page and see when the last decent he made was. I mean the 6th day was in 2000 for crying out loud. 2. saying cheesy lines makes a movie cheesy. who wants a cheesy terminator movie? it might as well be made by the same people who do those scary movie movies and meet the spartans. 3. post production will not change makeup on a guy's face.

[@WTFate]

Seriously that was one of the worst trailers I have ever seen by far.

[@stainedblood66]

salvation was boring. this movie looks very good. and the story sounds realistic. why would they stop sending terminators back?. its cool. they sent a terminator back far enough that it make sense too. arnolds never been an amazing actor. in terms of acting skill, hes always kinda been a joke. but he can play the terminator. this is a real terminator movie. i dont see alot of movies in theater. but im seeing this one

[@stainedblood66]

one more thing though. its not possible for the past to change the way it did in this. the changes after you send someone back have to be initiated by them and not before they get there. or he would have known about it before he went back. because when you change the past it instantly changes the future. take that days of future past. that movie the second wolverine wasn't affecting anything else. is the moment the future should have changed

[@batboy-wb2cn]

PaddyCollector Your point? He was out of the movie buisness for a long time. And Terminator 3 was a good movie. If you dont like that its either not your thing(which is ok) or you are a hater. And Last Stand was ok, Expendables 2 entertaining. Lives he of his fame and our nostalic memories in these movies? Sure. But he earned that. Never got the Arnie hate after 2000. Yes, he isnt the Arnie of your youth. Get over it and enjoy good rides. I wasnt hyped(for an Terminator movie with Arnie in it) for the new one. But the trailer got me excited. Is he old. Yes. But Clint Eastwood and many others were and are cool with that "old guy" charisma. Arnie is too.

[@danshmitka5796]

A lot of people get this wrong, 90% of the stormtroopers are now just regular humans who are recruited because the emperor saw a big flaw with clones, easily corruptible by the enemy, perfect example is the unofficial komino rebellion where some of them cloned anti-empire clones but were easily crushed, some are still stormtroopers but a lot have died between 3 and 4 and even more so in episode 4 when the death star blew up

[@DaylightDigital]

Debate: Can Marvel possibly fail? If so, what would the fallout look like?

[@kayealexv.g.]

Think Judgement Day only with comic book fans instead of terminators.

[@DaylightDigital]

Shazam Gibbs-Velez Which film do you think will burst the inexplicably-successful Marvel bubble?

[@kayealexv.g.]

If we are talking Disney Marvel right now . . . Ant Man will start the trend, Cap 3 will fall flat a bit and leave people feeling weary of the genre ( kind of like the hate for Iron Man 3). The movies will start feeling to much either like they aren't connected as well (Iron Man 3 to Avengers 2) or like they are sequelbait (Iron Man 2 to Avengers 1).

[@The7wc]

DaylightDigital As much as it pains me to say it, I don't think Ant-Man is gonna be very good. Skepticism started as soon as Edgar Wright left the project. The director, Peyton Reed, has done nothing but comedies, and they aren't nearly as good as Wright's. Rudd and Douglass are good, but they can't do much with bad writing and direction. Ant-Man was never going to be amazing, especially not this late in the game, but I'm thinking it's not gonna be very good. Same with Dr. Strange; Cumberbatch is a capable actor, but the director is known for horror, and the THREE credited writers have unimpressive resumes. Civil War, Black Panther, etc, all look safe for now though.

[@zamarokxl]

They have done that before on the Captain America vs. Iron Man movie fight episode. The question was when will Marvel fail and basically had the same premise as your question.

[@xenon333]

One can only dream that the Sith in the trailer was Darth Revan.

[@xenon333]

***** that's why a call it a dream. A beautiful dream.

[@HerobrineCraftMC]

No way. You can't just copy a guy from a video game.

[@xenon333]

ChaseMe2TheSky they already ruined him as much as they could. No the only way is up.

[@mokpow]

Revan sr. sr. jr. sr. jr. II of Korriban and an asteroid.

[@afeather1]

Revan is greatest sith

[@thekfc-kevinsfilmcommentar4855]

Seeing them discuss Star Wars Episode 7 teaser and superheroes MCU should get hits different now that the Star Wars Episode 7-9 came out and MCU has X-men, Fantastic Four, and Spider-Man

[@ctsteelers97]

They should get Jeremy Jahns for an episode

[@ErikBrumm]

He would win everytime

[@wduncanator]

I hate it when people complain about Jack's death in Titanic, the door was not buoyant enough to hold up the two of them and its been proven by mythbusters. Just because the door is big enough to hold two people doesn't mean it will still float with two people.

[@ChrisTTTT]

Please do an episode with Dan vs. Spencer vs. Jason! This would be awesome!

[@JohnSpawn1]

That would be the best round.

[@bryceevans3924]

The best moment of the Star Wars trailer was during the light saber ignition. It showed more than two red light sabers. This means that Darth Bane's law of one master and one apprentice was broken.

[@mstrainjr]

Disney owns Marvel, right? I've noticed that, except for the Terminator talk, this was all about Disney properties. Like, when talking about comic book movies, it's all Marvel. But when you look at it, what has DC done? There was the Dark Knight trilogy. Aaaand... that's it. The big talk is Star Wars and Marvel. Disney is now like the Google of Hollywood: competition exists, but we just don't care. I'm not thrilled at all about a Justice League film because DC hasn't given us anything to boost our excitement.

[@clancywiggum56]

Disney (thankfully) don't own James Bond

[@mstrainjr]

Clancy Wiggum Not yet. DUN DUN DUUUUNNNNNN

[@noecamarena9]

Xmen Fox Fantastic 4 Fox Spiderman sony Dark knight Man of steel Gren lantern Not givin us anything? You havent been paying attention have you?

[@jamescwoodall]

Sony owns Spidey and Fox owns the X-men and Fantastic Four so Disney/Marvel wasn't the only thing being talked about. I will say, however, that Disney is a powerhouse!

[@noecamarena9]

Caleb Woodall I wish I would said that....

[@lewisbrown03]

Best actor to join a superhero franchise - heath ledger. The movie is known more for the joker. He made the movie so much better than it is. He was the first actor to be nominated and win an oscar for a comic book role. IMDB - batman begins - 8.3 the dark knight - 9.0 the dark knight rises - 8.5 iron man - 7.3 the wolverine - 6.7 rotten tomatoes - batman begins - 7.7 the dark knight - 8.6 the dark knight rises - 8.0 iron man - 7.7 the wolverine - 6.3 This proves that no one was expecting anything from batman begins which they didn't need to but when the dark knight came out and heath ledger improved the status of the dark knight trilogy. Heath ledger improved it so much that when everyone went to see the dark knight rises they were expecting a good movie but it was slightly like batman begins. So this improves that Heath ledger improved the dark knight franchise.

[@canalcerradosuscribirsealn9003]

Hoping anybody will read this. Here is what I thing of the Star Wars VII The Force Awakens Trailer. It begins with what I don't thing is a clone, it is just reusing the incredible technique Luke and Solo used, so no problem with that. Then we see a new droid we had never seen. COOL, maybe the new R2D2 (trying to take his place)? The we see clones (real ones) getting ready for BATTLE, they are part of the empire, thet meaning they are being controled by a Sith maybe. Then we get to the lightsaber part, it is cool, we see a dark character in a dark place, walking darkly with dark music and a dark voice saying "THE DARK SIDE", IT IS EVIL! W e may love (hate) this character as much as we did Darth Vader. He has a cool weapon that we can analyse as TheR3aper5 said, it teaches us of what may or is going to happen. To end with a shot of THE MILENIUM FALCON with our favourite soundtrack playing. You get goose bumps (literally) and we can especulate on who is riding it and if we are going to see Solo take the Falcon one more, maybe last, time. The very best of the trailer is just this: It maid me very excited to see it VERY! I havce seen the original saga and love them but have never got goose bumps or even get surprised (because I saw it like 13 years in my life so I knew Darth Vader was Lukes father and all) and I think this one is going to be the STAR WARS of my generation that wil get me excited, goose bumped, surprised, amazed, nerdy and in love. GREAT TRAILER, HOPE IT TO BE A GREAT MOVIE!

[@KonguZya]

It's been long-established that after the Empire took over, Stormtroopers were cloned from a variety of templates, and then they started recruitment of non-clones. As the clone in BF2 says, "We never really got used to the new guys." In fact, seeing a Jango clone however many years this is after the original films would be LESS appropriate.

[@ThatGuy-jd3kj]

Most badass movie quote ? (Excluding Arnold movies, that's too easy.)

[@ThatGuy-jd3kj]

#MovieFights

[@nandkolo725]

when wolverine had his claws chopped off his bones grew back almost instantly but since the adamantium wasn't only put over his bones but it also melted together with his bones, the adamantium grew or spread back over his claws at a later stage since it got some of logan's healing abilities

[@thecompass80]

I can't believe nobody said anything about the part where the storm troopers are getting ready to get out of the ship. That's the only thing I wasn't expecting in the trailer and it gave it such tension... It's just like 2 seconds and it's my favourite part. Everything else's cool and I can't wait to see it, but I was expecting sand, robots, ships, lightsabers, the milenium falcon, the music... I wasn't expecting that tense moment with the troopers.

[@sparrowhawk81]

Why does everyone assume the black guy actually IS a storm trooper? You don't know who he is yet. He could be a new rebel character or something who had to go into some kind of situation disguised as a storm trooper and things went terribly wrong, now he's stranded in the middle of the desert.

[@salamipuddin4206]

Fun fact: The Ultimate Marvel Comics styled that rendition of Nick Fury after Samuel L. Jackson, even though the Ultimate Marvel Comics started about 8 years before Iron Man came out.

[@MUTEscifan31W]

"No one looks like they've aged 10 years" There is literally a meme dedicated to showing how people's looks don't change for like 40 years between their 20's and 60's. So Kitty Pride not looking different between X3 and DoFP isn't really a problem. Patrick Stewart practically hasn't changed since he played Piccard on ST:TNG. That's like 25 years. It's been 14 years since the first X-Men film and Ian McKellan looks the same. 10 years is nothing.

[@TheTwistedDingo]

my choices for some of the best movie deaths of all time: Brooks in The Shawshank Redemption. The sense of hopelessness in the scene(his trouble adjusting to a new time, society's disregard for him as a ex-con, etc.)and Brook's acceptance of his fate as dead weight of the world is emotionally devastating. Chris Chambers in Stand by Me. Chris's character is built-up so beautifully that we can't do anything but love him for his fierce outlook on the world. And while he technically didn't die on screen, the image of him walking and fading away might as well have been the death of him. Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator 2. Nuff said. Earl Partridge in Magnolia. He's a weak old man on the brink of death, forced to acknowledge his past sins and attempting to reconcile with the son he abandoned. The sheer horror of his actions conflict with his dying image; he passes away in the midst of chaos, with frogs raining outside and his son viciously attacking him with the irreversible truth of his greatest failures, as well as refusing to accept his father's last grab at redemption.

[@TWODOLLARBILLCHILL]

Finally, I am able to post comments. I have not posted one in years, mostly because I ironically do not enjoy arguing with youtube nerds...especially considering movie fights is my favorite thing youtube ever gave birth to. With that said, please guys, no matter what fight you guys get into the only thing I ask for is Andy to be a gladiator. I saw briefly your extremely dope passion for your opinion during a screen junkies "trailer fights" and I truly believe that you would sweep any topic...probably why your the judge haha. the only person who can leave their own opinion aside is easily the best mediator. regardless, you got chops dude. use em. lets get real. do this for me.

[@jediharold12]

The light-saber should've been black, or just a different color. I mean RED... again?

[@rbraunbeck96]

Red saber-crystals are actually used by the sith for a few reasons 1.they are synthetically grown in a lab, they do not grow naturally like the other colors 2. red saber-crystals amplify dark force powers (like choke, lightning, etc.) and 3. it's tradition by now that the sith use red lightsabers

[@jediharold12]

rbraunbeck96 Oh shit, I didn't know all that. That makes it more... mad scientist/villainy in a way. Makes more sense, I thought their wasn't as much importance.

[@jediharold12]

rbraunbeck96 I felt like the trailer, tried making this lightsaber/sith reveal come out to be very cool, yet controversial. But I felt, like shit would've been awesome if it were black. PLUS, it also makes him come off looking like the bad dude.

[@rbraunbeck96]

jediharold12 Well he's supposed to be the bad guy (as far as we know), and it would have been awesome if it were black, and at first glance this new lightsaber seems awesome but then you think about it more and discover it's major flaws

[@jediharold12]

CJ.Miner Yeah i know, like yellow, white, even cyan. Itll be awesome if we get to see them in the new movies.

[@balzor]

The bone claw argument is easy to fix. When they meet in the airport, Magneto is there and helping them. He could easily manipulate the adamantium in Logan's body to cover the claws. maybe pull a little from the shoulder blades or the femur or whatever.

[@KillikisTheHungerer]

Star Wars should be turned into a TV show with a movie length quality to them like House of Cards or Game of Thrones, now that would be awesome, blockbuster even.

[@KraigFang]

Mrs. Doubtfire put extra spices on his shrimp. He did choke on it but it wasn't because he was dumb or faulty, he was poisoned. Just a fun fact!

[@SWizz871]

Bryan Singer said Magneto extracted and expanded the existing adamantium from his skeleton over his claws

[@TheSwampman001]

One of the most iconic movie deaths that I always remember is the lawyers death in the bathroom by the T-Rex in the original jurasic park!

[@robsorbo]

Best movie death, no exceptions: Samuel L. Jackson in Deep Blue Sea.

[@liloiax22]

Kassem G I'm the same way lol. By the time I was both all 3 original Star Wars movies (episodes 4, 5 and 6) had already come out and even though I've obviously heard about them, I didn't even bother to watch them until after my friends and I sat down one night and watched Spaceballs just because my friend said it was hilarious. About 3-4 years after watching Spaceballs, I sat down with my cousin, the biggest Star Wars fan I know (so much so that years after, named his first son Luke and wanted to name his 2nd child, his first daughter, Leah but his wife would only let him name one of their children after Star Wars characters lol) and watched episodes 4, 5 and 6 right before episode 1 was about to hit theatres. But yeah, for about 3-4 years the only knowledge I had on Star Wars was from what I had learned from watching Spaceballs! lol

[@CMontgomeryBurns09]

Here's a possible MOVIE FIGHT question: What is the greatest film remake or franchise reboot/re-imagination? e.g. The Thing (1982), Rise of the Planet of the Apes (2011), Batman Begins (2005), King Kong (2005), Scarface (1983), Star Trek (2009), True Grit (2010), The Fly (1986), Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978), The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956), The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (2011), 3:10 to Yuma (2007), The Magnificent Seven (1960), A Fistful of Dollars (1964)....

[@JackAbroad]

the greatest movie death is in "Commando, when he throws the pipe through him, the steam pours out and cool and calmly says let off some steam Bennett!"

[@GingerGamerrHD]

Greatest Movie Death: Titanic, the guy who hits the propeller...

[@jakdax77]

What is the worst movie ending?

[@samswift102]

Elf the movie

[@jasonbrown4526]

So many horrible endings to choose from.

[@blakekneippfilms]

Tombstone

[@awwkash]

the amazing spider man 2

[@kannibust]

Gone in 60 seconds. Plus no sequel. Fuck that.

[@CEWalshV4]

It makes perfect sense really, the only thing we have seen that can stand against the blade of a lightsaber is the blade of another lightsaber. The purpose of a cross guard is to protect the wrist. What is the most common lightsaber injury? hand removal. So it make sense to have such a cross guard.

[@polymerized8183]

lmao black matt damon. YES

[@mentallyinky]

My only issue about the Fantastic Four being bought by Marvel is that Chris Evans played both Human Torch and Captain America. This would mean that if Fantastic Four was bought back either Human Torch or Captain America would have to either be be played by somebody else or one of them would have to die/leave which would in turn through off so much storyline. I'm just not really sure how it would work.

[@kevinlaws5195]

Love this! Just watched all of these in the span of three days. I'd just like to know, who is the most over-powered being in comic book history? Supes, Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet, Doomsday. I'd just love to hear your opinions and arguments. Keep it up!

[@rbraunbeck96]

Oscorp tower was actually going to be in Avengers (just as a building in the background) but they couldn't get it done in time so they had to cancel the cameo

[@lasthavoc]

T2 is one of my fav movie deaths ever. Great job, Dan. Other great deaths: Roy Batty - Blade Runner Quint - Jaws Bill Murray - Zombieland Kane - Alien Marion Crane - Psycho

[@Lullaby454]

I just can't see X-Men and other Marvel Characters sharing the same universe so I'm kind of glad that different studios have the rights to them. It doesn't make sense that New York City would celebrate Spiderman as a hero and the rest of America celebrate all these superheroes ... yet for some reason people like Wolverine, Mystique and Magneto are considered mutants and hated, to me it just doesn't work.

[@crogon-yt]

It's weird what some people think about. It didn't even occur to me that a black storm trooper would be a weird thing until you mentioned it. And thinking about it now it really makes no sense to be stumped by that. Why wouldn't there be a black storm trooper? Episode 4 is supposed to be at least about 20-30 years after the clone wars. That's a lot of time for a soldier to get too old for combat or die in it or whatever. So obviously unless they ordered new ones about every 10 years or so not all storm troopers are clones.

[@Cheesypotato57]

IMO, if you want to expand on lightsabers by giving them new designs, just going for different forms of swords is a dead end. What variation swords have is lost in the fact that the blade is just a straight laser. Why not use the whole laser blade aspect on different sorts of weapons? Like wrist mounted claws, halberds maybe, or hell, even a scythe. There are ways you can go with this, maybe not what I pointed out, but they do exist.

[@randomrants6658]

Everyone keeps forgetting about 2002's Spiderman. That is the super hero movie that really broke the doors off.

[@80EskiMO]

24:43 Wolverine got the adamantium taken away and then had it regrafted on later which is why he has it in Days of Future Past.

[@sjw4life546]

Fantastic Four is the only movie that I can think of that has a great director, a great writer, and great actors that people think are going to suck.

[@jmann316]

Heath Ledger was the best actor to join a superhero franchise. He was nominated for an oscar in a comic book movie!

[@TeamBOBBYEE]

TERMINATOR 2 WAS THE BEST BECAUSE: it gave us all what we loved from the first movie and added immense depth to the Lore that left us wanting to know more about the terminator universe. At the time of the movie technology, seeing the liquid metal terminator was mind-blowing! I think what the terminator universe needed dearly was to stray away from the time altering . T-3 ruined the concept and just bored us to death. T-Salvation had so much hype because people thought we had finally got passed time alterations and would add more to it. i had imagined intense battles and developed characters... Now imagine if they shown a movie from a skynet point of view. it growing into an AI that had personality and how it decided to go back for john .

[@gregdinyx269]

The new light-saber gives more sense than you wound think. I assume that the handle is made out of a material that the sabre can´t cut through (it exists in the SW universe) and the hand guard is especially practical.

[@SerpensSolida]

Wow, I can't believe someone sits to listen talk these guys for an ENTIRE HOUR.

[@GiornoSnow]

The only reason for The Wolverine movie to be logic is if it is the origin story of Daken... which would be AWSOME!!

[@upadem8921]

I went and made and account JUST to say... Screen Junkies is awesome. The movie fight videos are a great idea. The guests they have come on the show always make interesting and valid points, so they really dropped the ball when they got Alison Haislip to contribute. @ 34:58 Alison, what the fuck are you talking about. Have you SEEN the original Bond movies? They are nothing like the Brosnan ones. The original ones (take the first 5 for example), are not 'light' and 'self aware'. You must be thinking of the Roger Moore films. @ 45:20 Not many people freaked out at the Jackman casting. Most people didn't know who he was, as you went onto mention. 'He changed everyone's mind'? Who the fuck is everyone? This wasn't a Keaton/Batman situation. @ 46:50 Jackman is EASILY in his 50s? Hes 46. I thought you're supposed to actually know your shit to be on a show like this.

[@kernieherrera9578]

The best movie death by far is Michelle Pfeiffer in Batman Returns, that last kiss with the tazer... come on!

[@VlogsbyThomas]

"By the Force! I thought a lightsaber could cut through anything. The walls are barely scratched. The only thing that can resist a lightsaber is… Mandalorian iron!"

[@softwar3UPDAT3]

It has more impaling damage. So here's how it works: Stab all the way to the hilt, press a button on the handle putting it in spin mode causing it to rip and tear all of the guts out.

[@Scrooge042]

The Terminator's death was a great example of how to get grown men to cry, but I think Roy Batty's death in Blade Runner was better. The speech and Rutger Hauers performance where really the pinnacle of that movie.

[@Crazy4Comics98]

Funny thing is, Age of Ultron Quicksilver is actually gonna be more faithful to the comic character of Quicksilver than Days of Future Past Quicksilver could ever hope to be

[@r2tito]

Next time invite someone who wants to fight on the show... Not like Kassem, he's supposed to try to make arguments to validate his choices

[@brandonstraubel731]

For the next fight: With the last Hobbit movie coming out, Peter Jackson is effectively out of Lord of the Rings material. What fantasy franchise should he tackle or should someone else adapt into movies?

[@aidysfan]

Lol, I got so excited when I saw Kassem guest star on this show and I thought he was going to be his usual witty self that steals the show, but was I wrong. I kind've felt bad for him, it seemed like he was oblivious to what they were talking about and was left out for most of the show.

[@Padraic54]

I don't believe the nerd response to a black storm trooper is that they were all clones of Jango Fett, the nerd response is that the clones were supplanted by human recruits so it makes perfect sense to have a black storm trooper.

[@HooliganDeem]

Fact checker should get his shit together. If anyone has played the campaign of Star Wars: Battlefront II, where you play through the films from the view of the Clone/Storm Troopers, they'll know this, because the Clone narrator mentions this. I don't recall the exact reason or the exact period but Palpatine allows non-Clones into the Storm Troopers. Whether it's because of a failed mission or because of a lack of numbers, I don't recall. But this is why their numbers swell, yet their effectiveness goes down, because they're no longer all perfect soldiers. This is also why the troopers don't hit shit in the original trilogy. Or, well, how they've explained it. Now, I know the Expanded Universe is no longer canon, but there being a black Storm Trooper should not be a big deal, because it was possible before this trailer just as well. Heck, maybe there wasn't even a white Storm Trooper on the entire fucking Death Star, we don't know?

[@evenlysen9119]

In the mainstream X-Men gets the cred for starting the comic book movie craze, but I feel Blade, a very underrated movie, is the one that startet it all. Maybe not in the minds of mainstream audiences, but in the minds of studios and producers. They saw that this superhero action worked. In a way I guess one should also credit The Matrix a little bit for helping. And: To say that the movie The Wolverine did nothing to the franchise is a typical argument from someone who simply wants action and spectacle. What The Wolverine adds to his character that is relevant to his storyarch is getting over Jean Grey, and actually giving Logan a wish to rejoin the world and not be a recluse with a deathwish.

[@MrJoeybeans81]

Maybe this is just me but does the the new lightsaber (witch I love by the way) give off an ANCIENT vibe. Maybe what we are seeing is an Old lightsaber. Something from the past, maybe that has something to do with the title The Force Awakens. An Ancient Force has woken and is ready to fuck shit up! That's what im feeling from that trailer. That sith in the snow,If that's even a sith lord WE DONT KNOW!. has an OLD REPUBLIC vibe.

[@ArodWingfoot]

THat lightsaber is impractical. Guards like that are used for catching an enemy blade, which that wouldn't do because of the small place between the blades. 2 to keep you from grabbing the blade, that will just cut out the middle man of cutting off your fingers. The only use it could be would be to spike an enemy with it, but your more likely to hurt yourself than to be put into a position where spiking the enemy is an option.

[@japsniper1980]

Question for your next Movie Fights episode. "Should films be released in the cinema, on Blu Ray, stream & download at the same time? Or should movies still be exclusive to the big screen on launch?"

[@kostashellspawn7]

is the rumor stating that this may be an ancient light saber, hence the fiery unstable beam, true? that would mean we might see an ancient sith temple in the movie and a dark lord doing some treasure hunting to retrieve it. I would be really excited about that :D

[@Pireslvhc]

They are always saying that x-men made comic book movies serious and cool again, but in reality it was blade.

[@Scorge555]

I cringe every time anyone complains about the trooper in the begging of the trailer "oh he can't be a storm trooper, he's no clone!". Here's some info for those people. Storm troopers aren't actually clones. The clones were all but killed off after revenge of the sith, the storm troopers are all conscripted solders. Regular people who signed up to join the imperial military. The only remaining clones are the 501st, The elite devision, but they are not featured in any movies

[@PrinceIMC]

JK Simmons is the best actor to join a superhero franchise. I'm surprised that nobody mentioned him.

[@marcus3710]

In reference to Fight 7, why is the first Blade film always overlooked as the first serious Marvel film that made folks care about superheroes? Also, that film held no punches. It had gore, profanity and sex but it all worked. Did Blade Trinity erase everyone's memories that bad or something?

[@FlesHBoX]

Watching this makes me realize that other's ignorance of Star Wars actually causes me anger... Maybe I should chill out.

[@KatakMelayu]

Debate: Can video game cutscene/storyline be awesome just like other movies. Topic: which is the best & worse video games movie and how to improve or making the story funtastic.

[@elliotmark5093]

whats with all the hate on the lighsaber? its so freaking bad ass

[@DFox-kv9pi]

Maybe the sith's lightsabre is powered by the force, but he isn't properly trained in the force or his personal emotions limit his control over it, so this makes the side vents necessary to to keep the blade running and semi stable. I think this is plausible because the blade itself looks like shit is flying of of it and it's not crisp, clear and perfectly straight like a jedi's sabre. Just my speculations.

[@danielgrima9352]

I feel like the only person in the world who would say the greatest movie death ever is Anthony Anderson in Scream 4

[@AnakinSkyobiliviator]

Okay, so now I know the "crossguard" is the same beam...that would now bring up one new problem. The original problem is that it is just horribly dangerous. Now that danger factor is doubled with the new knowledge: Since the beam is splitting off, it obviously need an emitter (the metal that sticks out) to focus the blade (crystal turn the power from fuel cell to battery into the plasma beam, not the blade itself) does that mean if the metal is cut, even if it's not all the way though, the plasma would either superheat and explode...or....become an unfocused beam "spraying" in that general direction. The best possible outcome would be that it short circuits the saber and disable it.

[@Fortstorm]

All lightsabers are horribly dangerous, with or without a crossguard. Also the split-beam idea isn't confirmed anywhere as far as I know.

[@AnakinSkyobiliviator]

***** It seemed that it is a spoiled data/info because as soon as I was notified of it, I notice a lot of comments saying "oh, the lightsaber makes sense now" and videos about "how lightsaber work - spoiler" and such. About how dangerous it can be, while it is true all lightsabers are dangerous, but having a blade as crossguard..is like having a knife sticking out of the hilt of a sword.

[@Fortstorm]

Anakin Skyobiliviator Lightsabers are built by the user. Force-users use their power to aid them in the use of a lightsaber. Sure it's dangerous, but if you know how to use it it isn't dangerous for you.

[@AnakinSkyobiliviator]

***** While that is true, the lightsaber construction also allow you to consider how effective is the weapon. The double-bladed is mostly ineffective at close combat, the curved are made to parry and not stab. This version seems to be used for a wide sweeping motion. Even in the hands of those used to the weapon, the weapon will have hindrances of their own. I guess we have to wait until the movie show us how it *actually* going to be used.

[@kennethschumacher2797]

What villian should be added to the X-men Universe? Omega Red, Mister Sinister, Shadow King?

[@0485kmon]

"Home-made lightsabre" Why would you even enter a star wars discussion if you would consider this a valid point?

[@Fortstorm]

Lightsabers are hand-built.

[@kobi005]

as much as i agree that x-men's quicksilver was awesome and fun, he fits more how quicksilver was in the tv shows as a teenager trickster. i think marvel might get him right, in the avengers comics of today and whole house of M storyline he was untrusting and super protective of his sister. i will wait and see how he is in avengers 2

[@tonydys1]

I believe that the new light-saber is going to be used as a key of some sort. I don't know if any one thought of this already but that's my opinion.

[@WarJunkieAndExpert]

LOOK FORWARD TO THIS EVERY WEEK, LETS GO MOVIE FIGHTS WHOOOHOOOOO

[@ashleypgraves]

Say: It's a bird! it's a plane! nope it's a bird AND IT SHIT ON ME!!

[@The11jones]

for 40:00; Greatest Movie Death............its gotta be the 'Kiss of Death' from the 2014 Godzilla

[@StarTrooper]

SJ, it was about the troopers being clones not race. There are plenty of people out there that don't know the difference. Personally i haven't seen anything negative about John Boyega being in star wars. Its annoying how a few comments somewhere make everyone act like its the consensus.

[@geezim1]

this is just a great conversation! enjoyed it thanks.

[@chameleongaming9051]

Question to Screen Junkies: Do you think Ghost Rider can make a comeback or make a movie on the Ghost rider (Prequel) that was played by Sam Elliot?

[@justsomepeter]

How To Fix Movie Fights: First/ BRING NICK MUNDY FOR EVERY MOVIE FIGHT!!!. I mean come on we need someone who challenges people and yells and maybe does not bring vary good arguments but he is fun and makes people mad on the show = real debates. Second/ stop bringing back Hal his is annoying, maybe bring him back for some but never every one I mean come on please. (also huge fan of screen junkies help me by liking this so they can see this because I would love to be on the show for Movie Fights please make dreams come true thanks) - Elvis Parker- Jones (Yes thats my real name)

[@zazupitts1957]

Also the guy in the cardigan... Dude didn even back up his points. Why would you guys have a fighter who admittingly knows nothing about these movies and disqualifies himself 3 times.. The fighters need to FIGHT. That's what makes these fun to watch

[@valentintourtois2618]

The hint for the guardians of the galaxy trailer is sooooo subtle :p

[@MACKLFUEL]

I didn't it as a hand guard, I took it as an exhaust port, looks like a home made saber

[@rotoscopic8757]

Episode 7 Prediction: Worse than Howard the Duck but still better than Episode 1

[@JeromeBreak]

No mention of Sean Bean as Boromir in LotR Fellowship for the greatest death in movie history...

[@malcomstringer4619]

for the Sequel Fight, I want to add Caddyshack 2 or Christmas Story 2,