New Suzuki DR-Z4S SM - Best Japanese Dual Sport, Super Moto Yet

[@johanvermeulen756]

Every "new" bike below 500 cc is good news for me. ( because I can potentialy afford it )

[@DualSportDoug]

About 6 weeks ago I told my dealer a new and improved DRZ might be coming, so I want to be first on your waiting list. They said "Suzuki will never change the DRZ, so do you want a 2025 model when they arrive?" I said, "I only want what's new, the one that the internet speculates is coming." I put a deposit on one yesterday.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Nice! Hope you don't have to wait too long.

[@winduncan9818]

What was the price? thanks

[@DualSportDoug]

@@winduncan9818 Price hasn't been announced by Suzuki yet.

[@jaide1312]

I dig it, it's rare to get dualsports in the European market, so having something better than the honda 300 without the sketchiness of a KTM is nice.

[@joeysantos56]

Ive had two very modified drz's in the past. Great, bullet proof bikes. Im actually pretty excited about the new one despite the increased weight. Its no doubt because of the super heavy catalyst exhaust, abs pump and the unnecessary rider aid electronics. Hopefully the ecu can be flashed, put on a full exhaust and get rid of some unwanted hardware to lose some pounds. I think it will be another solid drz for the next 25 years!

[@raulsalanaranjo6565]

Not what I am looking for, but I appreciate them being available in Europe!!!!

[@danielpospisil1192]

I'm looking forward to real tests and not just guesses based on the given parameters :) Suzuki gives mostly understated performance and doesn't brag about marketing gibberish, I like Suzuki!

[@7EPLO]

Super excited for this one. Can't wait to see it in person and hopefully if they allow to test one.

[@davidrichardson5402]

If I didn't own 22 crf 450 rl would be first in line, you always make great videos.

[@Jack-xhit]

If the weight on the bike is an issue change what you eat and get some exercise…problem solved…and you will feel better too so thats a bonus…All in fun of course 😉…love the new bikes 💞

[@PommyBlokeAdventures]

It has always been available in Australia - I can go buy a brand new DRz400e registered on the road today from any Suzuki dealer in Australia.

[@malcolmeunson5543]

And New Zealand…

[@travishall67]

I'm closer to 60 now than 50. My bike of choice for today was a Yamaha XT250. Great bike, I love it, can't say enough good things about it. But If Yamaha would come out with about an.... XT325. I think that would be my Goldilocks bike. Not too small, not too big... just right. Keep it a 5 speed, I'm fine with that. Keep it air-cooled, nice for the simplicity. Keep the weight within 20 pounds of what it is now, but bump the power up 10% or so. That would be my forever bike. But since that's probably not going to happen I'm looking at the KLX300.

[@BrianSmith-ql5nj]

Klx 300 is my bike. Love it. Perfection. Seat is bad and change the pegs, maybe handlebar risers and done!

[@greatbigeye2506]

Looks great!

[@SquareHelmet]

Love them! Definitely above CRF300 and KLX300 for me (if the price is close). The only thing is: do we really need so much electronics on a basic Dual Sport bike? They should have channeled that money to more premium suspension. Still, the 4S shoot to the top of my dual sport bikes list.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yes, 37hp is not enough to require rider modes and TC, but people have grown to expect that stuff on new bikes.

[@6226superhurricane]

it's a bike to be sold worldwide, europe requires traction control and abs so therefore the bike has traction control.

[@Simon-RucknRideAUD]

@@6226superhurricanecorrect it has been absent for Australia for years now

[@michaelconran5252]

I agree. Love the fuel injection on my Harley, but both my dual sports are carbureted. Just simpler and easier to deal with in my opinion.

[@ironkcirb285]

Not been able to get one in the uk since 2008/9 ,second hand these one can go for over £4000 . So can't wait for the new one.

[@GLHS592]

If I didn't already have my 2014 DRZ400S, I'd buy one. If the price stays close to the current model's MSRP, they Suzuki will have a winner. The old one was already the best bang for the buck dual-sport motorcycle. This one looks even better.

[@victoriazero8869]

Adjustable power? Meh Traction control? Okay ABS OFF switch? Now we're talking Fuel Injected? Perfection!

[@fastdude2002]

5 speed = fail

[@OscarSchneegans]

@@fastdude2002 Yeah, that's disappointing.

[@Ark1j]

Less power & runs lean all the time like a Ktm? Have go spend More on a aftermarket Ecu to make it run right? Thank the epa nazis for that crap. All the alphabot agencies need to be abolished. Good thing the GSO took a shellacking in the election.

[@Simon-RucknRideAUD]

Suzuki may have an acro slip on and full exhaust system in the works if they match up with a fuel controller then no loss maybe even increase past that previous old stock stats.

[@wipperwil]

Excited!!

[@joshdoddadbod]

As long as it remembers your abs and TC settings

[@danipokornik9463]

Love my Drz that has been fully adventurized to ride the rougher stuff. Really hope they changed the 5 gear ratio because all I wanted was FI and a 6th gear. The switchable abs is a nice surprise and TC may be handy at times. Hope the aftermarket moves fast on fuel tanks and other accessories.

[@DualSportDoug]

Bigger fuel tank is a must. I suppose the reason the tank is now smaller is due to the twin spar design of the frame, which makes less room for fuel and a fuel tank.

[@victoriazero8869]

Power mode and TC was basically a tacked on upgrade to justify the expensive Throttle by Wire system. If it was only TbW, people will never take the offer. So they added power mode and TC even though the bike doesn't need it.

[@danipokornik9463]

@@victoriazero8869 when you have a spent rear tire I learned that traction control would be useful! Had a good dirt nap that day! My own fault.

[@danipokornik9463]

@@DualSportDoug agree. I have a 4 gallon ims tank on mine. Love it.

[@victoriazero8869]

@@danipokornik9463 I did once. And it spooked me so much that I stopped riding until I can get new tires lol. I don't have enough experience offroading to know how useful they could be. Thank you.

[@ChopperChad]

A "rally" version like on the Honda CRF300L would be nice. Or at least a larger tank capacity.

[@MrTmax74]

Agreed, that would sell like hot cakes

[@6226superhurricane]

australia has had the street legal drz400E from 2000 to present day. the s model was sold in low numbers from 04-05 as a cheaper option but was discontinued due to lack of interest (why would you buy an s when you can buy an E) sm was never a huge seller in australia because once again why would you buy an sm when you can buy an E even if you wanted an sm you're better off converting an E than trying to bring an sm up to E spec. sm was discontinued in 2022 due to abs regulation the sm didn't fit in the enduro category like E model and has pillion pegs so it's not exempt from abs regs. tldr the drz400e which is lighter and more powerful was never discontinued in aus.

[@easternyellowjacket276]

This is great news! Finally an update by Suzuki. Does anyone know how much the tariffs will be on these in the next few months?

[@dicefall9]

The only downer is the 5 speed gearbox, but overall it's gona be a great bike for sure😊 But I just can't imagine what it would do if Yamaha came back with similar updated WR, lets say a WR-400 with tall seat height and long travel suspensions and high ground clearance😃

[@Sr.D]

As lots of people said i really appreciate that we finally got it again in Europe even if it's a little bit less powerful due to stupid EU regulations...

[@MrShrimpy72]

The 400E was still available in Australia.

[@2hotFL]

Usually, they bump up the displacement a little to cover the power loss when they upgrade a bike to meet new emission requirements. Like Yamaha did with the MT-09 a few tears back. DRZ450S has a nice ring to it.

[@michaelconran5252]

I think the older DR-Z is a better choice here in the US. So much aftermarket for it and their is a carb and exhaust upgrade that really boosts performance, yet still can be used for laid back rides.

[@blkvtr1k]

DRZ is still available in Australia, DR650 is not.

[@Motoboo_Marine]

The only real flaw I see in this bike is the tank size. I think the power and weight issue can easily be solved by an exhaust and tune. Hopefully the aftermarket can solve the tank as well.

[@diggy-d8w]

The only real upgrade I care about is the ABS & that's only needed for me on the streets..... the other stuff I don't care about & the motors the same size. IF I buy new it'll be a 2024 or a used DRz400, carb's are not a big issue although some will complain like it is. Perhaps in higher elevations it's harder but carb's worked fine on every motor for more than 100 years & I like the KULT of DRz People, what a community of folks they are. peace man

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yes, a 450 would have been nice.

[@diggy-d8w]

Just the 450cc & a 6th gear would have shot sales thru the roof top...... I don't know anything but we shall see after people get up -n- going on this. I predict they'll buy it & start making the same old MOD's they did on the old version and either wreck it or sell it so they can get another bike to MOD Up? Did I tell the end too early? Well, I'll just wait for you to put her thru the paces & tell me what you think. IDKnow nothing..... but I trust you to say it as it IS !

[@TommyAngelo1337]

They had two boxes to check and somehow they decided to only do the bare minimum. My guess is that they had no existing gearbox that could just be dropped in and developing a new one would raise the price significantly. Which means the sale of this and the 650 is probably just not enough to justify the cost.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

I agree about the gearbox. Hopefully the price doesn't go up too far.

[@winduncan9818]

My biggest question is where will these be made? (huge import taxes if not made in Thailand for me).

[@Alex_mkII]

A 5 speed gearbox is quaint

[@bobz1736]

Still only got 5 gears 😢

[@chopperenduro6590]

I thought if Suzuki added EFI & a 6spd box ONLY l mite buy one .

[@kalebbrown93]

Without a 6th gear that horsepower decrease and extra weight makes it more of a wash with the 300 competitors. Also street price of the old DRZ was insanely too high for what it was already. If this is even more it makes this bike even more of a niche.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yes but the KYB suspension is clearly better than the Honda's. Also, a pipe could easily drop 16lbs and add some horses.

[@verlinswarey507]

I thought too the DRZ’s were always a little salty.

[@paulvandervyver4223]

Imagine Suzuki can make the same changes to the DR650 🤪

[@exothermal.sprocket]

It had crossed my mind. They could convert it to FI and keep it air cooled, but compression would be rather low and probably it would be running pretty hot on the regular (not good for engine life).

[@victoriazero8869]

That would be delicious. A lot of the 'upgrades' would look less out of place too. Power mode and TC was basically a tacked on upgrade to justify the expensive Throttle by Wire system. If it was only TbW, people will never take the offer. So they added power mode and TC even though the bike doesn't need it.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yes, and add a rally type fairing and bigger tank.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@victoriazero8869 A manufacturer basically has 3 choices in throttle control (if emissions regulations weren't dictating anything): cable to throttle plates, zero secondaries; cable to throttle plates, with ECU servo controlled secondaries; or electronic Canbus signal to ECU which controls primaries without any secondaries. Which would you rather a manufacturer use, considering all the other products they make in house? There's no such thing as justifying anything. You make sound choices by design teams, engineers, and so forth. The most simple way to go is throttle by wire. If you don't stay with old school carburetors, anything less than throttle by wire is a half-measure, a half-step, a hybridized compromise system trying to blend manual cable throttle with ECU servo secondaries. If you're using an ECU to operate the engine, why go half way? ECU main throttle control requires control maps to operate the engine, traction control is simply a more accurate way to apply throttle than a human tugging on a cable and trying not to kill themselves. If you're not sticking to carburetors, going full throttle by wire is the LEAST complicated way to do it and offers the MOST benefit for future development.

[@victoriazero8869]

@@exothermal.sprocket I'm too accustomed with cheap bikes and the cable to ECU system is the ones I'm most familiar with. Because all bikes in my country, newly produced, has to have EFI. Has been the case since 2016. And yes, the acceleration can be super jank.

[@GLHS592]

I'm not going to trade my 2014 DRZ, but I'd buy the new one if I were in the market for a new dual sport bike. If the MSRP doesn't increase too much, they will sell well. Even with the carb, I see the DRZ as a better choice than the 300 cc dual sports. I don't really see the need for a 6th gear in a dual sport. If you have to ride the highway, get a Vstrom 800DE.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

It is nice to ride fast to the trails though. I wouldn't tour on it but the extra torque would make an overdrive possible.

[@DeXtErR5]

So the Pstrom 800 de guys now have more opt with suspension upgrade :P (me included)

[@Anton_G_604]

Goddam it I want one of those SMs!

[@sham27007]

Power 38PS Torque 37Nm.

[@gunterfleck2344]

Unfortunately hust 5 gears. Why? :/

[@benfox8571]

DR650 ftw

[@loki1066]

Is this for the uk?

[@alphajed7700]

Correct me if I'm mistaken. Is Suzuki the only one makes a production Super Moto between the Japanese big 4?

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

No, there is a Kawasaki KLX300SM as well. The Suzuki has considerably more power though.

[@blueheelerfriend8450]

Holding out for the New Yamaha WR450R one day soon? Come on Yamaha make it and people will buy it!!! 😁

[@spritual_enlightenment]

The only thing everybody complains is a lack of 6th gear.

[@kevinarmstrong478]

So the new bike is both heaver and produces less power than the old one! You are right what a lot of people want is a lightweight 40ish hp rally bike the 300 is great but it needs another 10 hp if Honda did it it would compete directly with the NX so they won’t. The MT450 is great but it’s too heavy for a dual sport or is it a dual sport with every known accessory already bolted on!

[@maximusmiles8435]

I think the transmission is a big miss.

[@brianm5753]

Itchy Boots's next bike 😅

[@jamesschneider3828]

I’m not big on that cobbled up Yamaha she’s using now. Wait until she breaks down and needs parts.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Too late for that.

[@mikelobdell2666]

Too tall.

[@Larry_Mott]

@@jamesschneider3828 Somehow i think it will be easier to find parts for a XT600 than for any 202* bike in remote locations of the world- That said, it is something of a Clydesdale horse.

[@brianm5753]

@mikelobdell2666 she's a pro now. She can take it

[@Steve-yu6pq]

should definitely be 6 speed

[@marcgatto9675]

I'd like a playbike. Is that it?

[@dominic9279]

Wrong maate it's always been available in Australia because I own own 😂 . Why did u think that?

[@sammemrys8195]

Suzuki had a chance do do something great with that bike but they chose to give it a meh sort of revision. At least for the North America market that is.

[@terryomara9403]

Value

[@cyclopathic998]

..all those upgrades: natrium filled exhaust valves, new cams, riding modes, slipper clutch, dual spark, switchable ABS, LED lights and yet same old narrow ratio transmission which will buzz off all tooth fillings on highway. Count me out, sorry

[@verlinswarey507]

Thanks,we will! I’ll let Suzuki know.

[@cyclopathic998]

@verlinswarey507 yeah tell them to screw themselves

[@cyclopathic998]

@verlinswarey507 know what?that they screwed up and missed the elephant in the room?

[@Samura458]

It’s not a highway bike lil’bro it’s a SM and a Dual Sport

[@cyclopathic998]

@@Samura458 I'm guessing you don't live in the states and don't realize the first world country realities. If you want to ride BDRs (rough equivalent of european TET) for every mile you ride on ~1000mi BDR route you'd have to ride 2-3 to get there and get back. Add 2 week vacations, $100 cheap hotels, well developed highway system and you'd understand why highway capacity may be needed. At least DR350 had a wide ratio and was more suitable for all around use

[@west_adv]

Yes Yamaha 400R sounds great, as far as it would be lighter than Suzuki

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

If it's in the works Yamaha is good at keeping it a secret.

[@west_adv]

@DifferentSpokesTV well, Suzuki has taken me by surprise, so why not Yamaha:)

[@OscarSchneegans]

Suzuki should've given it a 6-speed.

[@devilslawyer1646]

5 speed gear box. wtf?

[@blackbuttecruizr]

Still no 6th gear....

[@exothermal.sprocket]

They MIGHT have revised the ratios. To add gears, you need the width/space. If you don't have the width/space, you make the other gears more narrow, or less durable. Which would you like? Make the engine and transmission wider? Then you're changing castings ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$).

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

I think they wanted to carry over as much as possible to keep the costs down.

[@blackbuttecruizr]

@@exothermal.sprocket great points for sure! I just listened to the complaints of my friends who have one for years... Haha

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@blackbuttecruizr I've no personal experience but the common theme is the 5th gear is too short. If they simply bumped 3rd, 4th, and 5th up at progressive intervals, no other changes would be necessary. It's not like the powerband is 2-stroke narrow on these machines so there doesn't need to be close ratio boxes on them either.

[@murlyn2]

ABS off great, EFI great. Still 5 speed- not great. Still a 400-not great. Make it a 500! I have the 400.

[@Samura458]

Why make it a 500, 400 is perfect if you want a 500 KTM has one

[@mnap89]

Now just bring KLX300 to EU and bring back WR250R/X

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yes, Kawasaki has to give the KLX ABS.

[@jessemayle1380]

It was already a slowpoke and they dropped HP added a bunch of tech you don't need, it's just more things to break and go wrong so I definitely won't be buying one

[@ant2400]

Prime example that the 'smart' people running things, (government) are smart only in their own heads. Lets just get rid of all vehicles since no one knows how to operate them properly anyway and need all sort of computers to do it for them. Why restrict small engines to save a tiny tiny bit of emissions and build more big SUVs to take the kids to school after a stop to StarBucks and the convent store to tank up on caffeine. and feed the little ones with tons of sugar. I want a motorcycle that makes me look cool, but saves me from a crash, while making it look like I did it myself, oh and it needs to be very comfy and powerful and safe and get 100 mpg can go anywhere in any condition and will stop itself if I am too busy responding to a text to even watch the road.

[@BrianSmith-ql5nj]

No thanks! I will keep my klx 300

[@joeln6861]

36 inch seat height... you better be 6 foot or taller.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yeah, Suzuki might be missing out on the median rider. Maybe they'll offer a lowered version like Honda and Kawasaki.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

If only people understood just how backward life is, how suppressed it has been, because regulators keep things that way. DR-Z400 has been in a class of its own. It remains in a class of its own. The only thing close is the CRF450RL, but it's a modified motocrosser, not tuned anything like the DR-Z nor built anywhere near the same maintenance schedules.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yes, the longer maintenance intervals are the key in this class. On pavement you need them.

[@gregorbabic7664]

I keep all the exhausts on my bikes stock. I appreciate not smelling unburnt fuel and a polluting bike or car when I am riding and taking in the sights, sounds, and smells that riding brings to the travel. I consider that forward progression and not being suppressed. Ever notice the stink when you are behind a modified car or bike or that old vintage vehicle before things like Catalytic converters? No thanks, wouldn’t want to go back to that. But each to their own. Some people love loud pipes. I prefer to dual sport with minimal attention and quiet. All these choices pretty much still exist for us as there really is no regulation enforcement happening. At least not in Canada.

[@WinterSkyyy]

I don't know why anyone would buy this over an old used one

[@LiviuXSA]

carburettors are a pain in the a55 and have no place in 2025. leaving your bike parked for a month and then you discover the carbs arent synced or its off tune and your bike runs rough, cant hold idle or wont start at all was fine in the 1970s but not today.

[@michaelhayward7572]

Sounds like the 450 Himmy is a better bike.

[@west_adv]

~40kg difference, not a chance

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

It's a 90lb weight difference so I think that the bikes are meant for very different missions.

[@ragimundvonwallat8961]

should have kept the old one...no real gain at all only a few useless trinkets

[@kiplambel4052]

Oooo! A 5 speed! Just like we had back in the '70s. FAIL

[@veganchris2923]

Meh. I’d be excited if they gave it a 6th gear.

[@jonlee3081]

So now they're screwing up these bikes too with all that electronic crap. No thanks.

[@WithoutCertainty]

Super disappointing. No thanks