New Tomashi F-116 portable cassette player from AliExpress...and it's actually decent! At last!

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@vwestlife
@vwestlife 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting it through *its* paces for us. 😀 The input jack is clearly for a microphone, not a line-level audio source.
@HostiaRecords
@HostiaRecords 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like that French project that you reviewed, what was it called?
@douglasallen9428
@douglasallen9428 2 жыл бұрын
@@HostiaRecords Whatever it was, the phrase on the front of the unit said “Designing The Web” in French…
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 2 жыл бұрын
@@HostiaRecords The Recording the Masters Mystik, a.k.a. Mulann B-1000.
@hunterdavis3003
@hunterdavis3003 2 жыл бұрын
What’s up homie! Honestly I thought this video was yours! Both y’all doin gods work
@jerryking7502
@jerryking7502 2 жыл бұрын
You can get the right level by adjusting the volume, but the unit by passes the volume...
@AJGaS
@AJGaS 2 жыл бұрын
UPDATE (OUTDATED - SEE UPDATE 2) - Received my Tomashi F-116 last night, this is definitely an interesting little player with some potential. The speaker is tinny but can get VERY loud - definitely totally fine as a novelty or background music thing. Learning from this video, I tried recording as a muuuuch lower volume from my source; its not all distorted like in the video here, however it's still pretty miserable sounding, though not due to distortion. The permanent magnet erase head is rather noisy, and ESPECIALLY on batteries for some reason the player has trouble maintaining full speed when recording, which means that if you record on AA batteries, it will then play back quite a bit faster and make everything high-pitched. Also, while (especially with a little tinkering with azimuth adjustment screw) playback is surprisingly pretty decent, even with correct volume - and despite being stereo - the record quality feels pretty poor. It's rather focused on mid ranges, even though you CAN hear low-end and high end in there, it just doesn't produce a nice recording. I didn't buy it for this feature so im fine with it, but its a little disappointing - maybe tinkering with the circuitry could clean that up a bit though. There's quite a lot of noise on the headphone out circuit too on top of the tape hiss - even when its in 'Play' but just running over the tape leader (so no magnetic signal at this point), there's some potent noise coming through. Dont bother playing Dolby B tapes on these though which goes without saying - but especially on these units. They are a little heavy on treble, but Dolby B makes it even worse than a basic walkman. So basically - yeah, for playback its alright without a dolby-enabled tape (which means pre-recorded cassettes will probably sound pretty bad). I don't regret buying this at all - but I do sincerely hope they keep improving modern cassette walkmans because this IS a hopeful and decent attempt. Also, it may look cheap and plasticky, but I think it's charming and cute looking. Feels decently made too - it actually has a bit of weight!
@douglasallen9428
@douglasallen9428 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap… a halfway decent cassette player for the first time in ages! Thank you so much!!!
@Daijyobanai
@Daijyobanai 2 жыл бұрын
If this video was about anything it was about hope. Hope that one day, one day, there will a cassette renaissance.
@CassetteComeback
@CassetteComeback 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on!
@jonjepson3650
@jonjepson3650 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. I have purchased the Tomashi F-113. It looks the same but it doesn't have the speaker. The sound is great much better than I expected. Highly recommended.
@jaredjackson8526
@jaredjackson8526 2 жыл бұрын
I have a nice Boots personal stereo radio cassette recorder. And it has stereo speakers built in. I wish one of the manufacturers would copy or reproduce something from the past so it could be a new product up to the old quality and design. I'm sure it could be done. The beauty of the unit you just reviewed is it can be used in a car easily with the USB power and 3.5mm output.
@bletheringfool
@bletheringfool 2 жыл бұрын
If Sony would bring back the last Walkmans produced in the 00s if that was possible to bring it out of mothballs
@AudioGuyBrian
@AudioGuyBrian 2 жыл бұрын
I hope someone does a spec test or tear-down on it. So we can see the W&F and frequency response curves with different tapes (Type I, II, IV). Thanks for the review.
@CassetteComeback
@CassetteComeback 2 жыл бұрын
They will be poor and unimportant. It's a £27 modern Walkman that sounds decent. Just be happy about that.
@Bobby_Snoof
@Bobby_Snoof 2 жыл бұрын
@Brian F. : I agree with you, that would be interesting!
@serratusx
@serratusx 2 жыл бұрын
If it has noticeable wow and flutter then it’s basically trash like all the new cassette players
@RealEpikCartfrenYT
@RealEpikCartfrenYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@serratusx please keep in mind that portable cassette players from back in the day also had high W&F, especially the cheaper ones. Remember that not everyone could afford a top of the line Sony D6C or something like that
@serratusx
@serratusx 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealEpikCartfrenYT yes I realise that but all the demo reviews I’ve seen on here are far worse than even the cheapest players back in the day. They are more like novelty toys than something you would really use to play music
@AJGaS
@AJGaS 2 жыл бұрын
UPDATE 2: It's 3 weeks later; my Tomashi F-116 doesn't work anymore, lmao - in fact, I never quite got it working decently well. From day 1, the lack of anti-rolling mechanism was absolutely atrocious because the very slightest movement caused incredible wow and flutter and speed fluctuations. The tape mechanism was incredibly weak, and an ever-so-slighly stiff cassette reel would cause it to slow way down or halt all together. Auto stop did not work right out of the box, recording was horrible, and my attempts to grease the gears and clean the belt did nothing to improve things. Switching the playback head brought the volume way down, but improved sound quality by a large margin as it brought the screechy treble down and improved the bass response by a large margin, however unfortunately the head was a couple of millimeters taller. This means that while it was compatible physically and electronically, mechanically it pushed down on the tape just a hair more than the original, and the weak-ass tape transport couldn't handle this tiny extra bit of pressure and would cause tapes to run slow or stop frequently. Over time, the buttons quickly stopped sitting in a nice pretty row and started to get wobbly quickly, grease oozed out of the 'piano keys', and they now all rest at different heights and are all crooked and ugly looking. The mechanism is chunky feeling and very unpleasant when pressing keys, and the whole thing just feels like crap. You can't really listen with the player in any other position other than keys-up or the tape misaligns with the head and everything becomes really muffled or the speed changes. Its really slow at rewinding and fast-forwarding, and I find that it over-tightens the tape which exacerbates playback issues. For comparison, a day ago I received a Sony Walkman WM-FX36; a pretty cheap all-plastic 90's cassette player; definitely not high end. Aside from all of the bells and whistles that the Tomashi lacks, from a playback standpoint this well-used, never-serviced lower-end walkman curbstomps the tomashi. It needs a new belt as the one inside is original and its got minor issues related to that, and yet it STILL handles jostling and movement MUCH better, has far lower wow and flutter, and a stiff tape doesn't stop the player from running at full speed. The headphone jack is much quieter, and the treble/bass extension and balance is worlds better. So basically, even an old-ass inexpensive walkman with an old belt is till a better buy. Please,spare yourself the headache. Forget the tomashi - its ALMOST promising, but its manufactured so, so poorly and has no anti-rolling mechanism which makes it facedly useless if you aren't just sitting at a desk.
@ulfrinn8783
@ulfrinn8783 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've seen these Aliexpress cassette players and was also browsing eBay for Walkmans under $100. As much as I refurbish old electronics, mostly video game consoles which include rebuilding optical drives, restoring an old Walkman to play like new might be right up my alley instead of dicking around with one of these cheap Chinese devices. I'm always open to suggestions to specific models though.. I love the aesthetics of the 1980s models, but they probably do not sound as well. At some point, I may design a new circuit board to use modern, higher quality electronics.
@rylanthompson5844
@rylanthompson5844 Жыл бұрын
@@ulfrinn8783 but tape mechanisms are so complicated!
@rylanthompson5844
@rylanthompson5844 Жыл бұрын
Sooo should we even bother with new cassette stuff? 😬
@ulfrinn8783
@ulfrinn8783 Жыл бұрын
@@rylanthompson5844 Tape mechanisms are complicated, but not really any more complicated than a floppy drive, or a CD drive, especially the front loading variety. But... after putting more thought into this, I probably won't be getting into cassettes because I've been realizing old CDs of that era sound WAY better than more modern reissues of them. But if you do want to get into cassettes, portables tend to sound worse than decks because the smaller, lighter parts are more prone to things like flutter. If I were to get me a tape player for my apartment, honestly, I'd get me a mid-late 70s top loading tape deck for the cool factor, and the purely analog electronics which would be extremely easy to improve upon.
@rylanthompson5844
@rylanthompson5844 Жыл бұрын
@@ulfrinn8783 interesting.. so older CDs sound better than new ones? That’s odd. You’d think they would sound better today. Also have you refurbished a cassette player before? And where do you learn to do all this stuff??
@lookoutleo
@lookoutleo Жыл бұрын
I love your positivity it's refreshing in this cynical world we live in these days. Yes the wee cassette player does seem ok . I have an Argos bush one from mid 90s that has a FM radio that is similar. When I travelled in Canada hitchhiking for 6 months I took it and few cassettes with me and it still works fine, these type cassette player are great for camping , and yours can record diary, thanks for posting
@randombouy01
@randombouy01 2 жыл бұрын
So glad they're starting to make decent cassette players again. I might have to snag this one for myself someday.
@kirkmooneyham
@kirkmooneyham Жыл бұрын
Just got one of these as a Christmas present today. Pleasantly surprised. Much better quality than the cheapo mono units out there. Hope it holds up well enough to enjoy for a while.
@JohnAranita
@JohnAranita 2 жыл бұрын
My first cassette player in 1983 was a house brand from Sears. It did not have a rewind button, but I did not care back then. I was amazed by audio cassettes -- now much, much, much more music can fit on a tiny 128GB micro-SDXC card!!!
@danniielle
@danniielle 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that was a pleasant surprise! Regarding the music recording, I'm going to bet that input socket is mic level rather than line level which would explain the massive overload. It seems to record acceptably via the inbuilt mic so I'm assuming the record circuitry is doing a half reasonable job, especially given the price point of this unit.
@CassetteComeback
@CassetteComeback 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm going to give it another go with much less input.
@clarencehoover6748
@clarencehoover6748 2 жыл бұрын
Love the hubs on your HF90. Classy.
@michaelhernandez410
@michaelhernandez410 3 ай бұрын
I ordered one last week. I will use it to play tapes on my car stereo. I believe it will have good enough fidelity for Ringo, The Who and Credence Clearwater Revival. Thanks for the encouraging video.
@YoshiLecaros
@YoshiLecaros 2 жыл бұрын
I recently bought one of this for my walkman collection, the only issue I got was the plastic flywheel I guess, with C90 tapes big amount of Wow and flutter, but really clean sound no noise from the motor, and real Stereo head Player. BE careful, no working record security tab, a little error and you could damage one of your valuable tapes. But really a bit hope. 73
@CassetteComeback
@CassetteComeback 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, more than anything it shows they're going in the right direction
@juliancurtis4071
@juliancurtis4071 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, a stereo head..... A shame they never fitted one to that Panda one you ranted about
@plan7a
@plan7a 2 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness it's stereo and not mono or pseudo (same sound from both, mono x 2; same in both channels). If you look on the right of the unit (when it's in front of you) there's a 'finger nail' tab or slot for opening it easier; it might also get better over time after some usage. Nice that there's no motor whine also. The sound via headphones/output wasn't too bad either. (Plus unlike the earlier originals it has a rewind and record. These didn't appear on players of the day, of course). An alternative name (to cheekily bypass the copyrighted name) 'A walkabout tape player/recorder'; yes I'm quoting someone else - can't remember who though. The built-in microphone was clear enough for voice also!
@olledahlquist3784
@olledahlquist3784 2 жыл бұрын
Of course the sound will sound distorted when you put line in into the mic input. You should try headphones out from the Sony, turn it to 3 or maybe 5 in volume and then record the signal on the cassette recorders mic input. Try different settings and I am conviced that you will find a level that will make the recording sound decent.
@timf-tinkering
@timf-tinkering 2 жыл бұрын
Even the headphone output will probably be too loud for a mic input. The headphone volume will have to be set so low the S:N ratio will be awful. The best way to do it is with an attenuator.
@craignehring
@craignehring 2 жыл бұрын
I guess it is about time for something like this. Thanks for the review
@Pentium100MHz
@Pentium100MHz 2 жыл бұрын
This has boosted treble? That's good, maybe I'll get one. A lot of older walkmans have bass boost switch, but in my experience I never use it. On the other hand, I sometimes need the treble boosted (tape somewhat worn out, tape spent some time near a magnet, recorded with wrong azimuth and so on).
@utubeuser1024
@utubeuser1024 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony! Great to see you back on! Interesting little player! I think Techmoan has a wow & flutter meter on hand, I wonder if he'd be willing to test out the player/recorder for you and give you the results.
@CassetteComeback
@CassetteComeback 2 жыл бұрын
He's too big to talk to me any more...but who really cares about W&F, it's a cheap modern portable.
@tracerx6324
@tracerx6324 2 жыл бұрын
Aah, when the alarm in the supermarket is going to beep again, when you walk in between it with a walkman. Memories from the past. 😁
@bletheringfool
@bletheringfool 2 жыл бұрын
This is great news Tony. My 80s Walkman is hard to beat but I'm always hoping for something like this. A cheap and decent back up. I listen to a lot of audio books too so might get one of these and put it through its paces. I love the idea of the recording feature which my particular Walkman doesn't have. This might be worth it alone for me.
@jerryking7502
@jerryking7502 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a tear down because I would like to see the cassette mechanism and the motor...
@emmareporter4324
@emmareporter4324 2 жыл бұрын
i have a wm-fx43 myself, one of the cheaper ones from sony, it rocks
@jaredjackson8526
@jaredjackson8526 2 жыл бұрын
It would be good to test it with an external microphone plugged in. Maybe stereo microphones!
@MattJH
@MattJH 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if the internals are identical, but the casing is the same as the Mulann B-1000 sold by Recording the Masters.
@patrick59
@patrick59 2 жыл бұрын
Je pense que le Mulann B-1000 est mono et correspond au F119 de chez Tomashi. 😉
@MattJH
@MattJH 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrick59 The documentation for both the B-1000 EW and the B-1000 states that they're stereo
@steiniapproved
@steiniapproved 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if magnetism from built-in speaker degrades tape content?
@Seiskid
@Seiskid 2 жыл бұрын
Depends if its shielded or not. If tony touches the magnet with a nail and it doesn't attract it then it will be ok. If it does try to stick then it may cause problems.
@RealEpikCartfrenYT
@RealEpikCartfrenYT 2 жыл бұрын
the magnet is too small to cause any damage tbh
@absinthedude
@absinthedude 2 жыл бұрын
I've got, and regularly use, an early 2000s Radio Shack mono cassette recorder with a similar built in speaker. It does not seem to cause any problems regarding partial erasure of the tape.
@AJGaS
@AJGaS 2 жыл бұрын
Ordered one about a week ago after seeing this - also looking to replace an old and long-dead-and-gone WM-FX315 I had some 8 years ago so it could be fun to compare them. I'd love to see some wow and flutter measurements though - while I couldn't care less about Dolby NR, I do however care about Wow and Flutter and motor speed / consistency. Also, I wonder if the output circuit could be improved with some minor mods - hardly any risk if it fails, given the low cost.
@Agri458
@Agri458 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for buying this so we don’t have to too. Great video as always, thanks Tony!
@Inbellion
@Inbellion 2 жыл бұрын
"Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!"
@chrisnicol1644
@chrisnicol1644 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool... I am getting back into cassette tapes... This helps....
@MrKLindholm
@MrKLindholm 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the effort you did for this.
@Jaredboth
@Jaredboth 2 жыл бұрын
I got one really similar branded Jenson on Amazon. Great feel and quality compared to others I have bought.
@christianmccauley7340
@christianmccauley7340 Жыл бұрын
I think retrospekt is selling this walkman reshelled. I don’t know, I’ll have to buy both and find out
@christianmccauley7340
@christianmccauley7340 Жыл бұрын
They are lmao
@bletheringfool
@bletheringfool Жыл бұрын
@@christianmccauley7340 would love to see a comparison video
@jamesdurber88
@jamesdurber88 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a personal stereo as u say without massive amount of motor noise and stereo, for me taking the speaker away and the record function and adding bass boost would make it perfect! - The only downside of the video was u didn't show us the inside - would have loved to see the workings and see what they used inside - buy hey another fantastic video!
@Tomica1207
@Tomica1207 2 жыл бұрын
I am wondering how that speaker magnet affects the tape...
@426hemicuda1090
@426hemicuda1090 2 жыл бұрын
haha lol Thanks Tony for the review but I would have to buy an old sony..... keep the videos coming brother :)
@ttheone3518
@ttheone3518 2 жыл бұрын
16:50 actually sounded kinda cool there for a second
@chinnyvision
@chinnyvision 2 жыл бұрын
Do you consider there's any issue in having the speaker so close to the cassette in these units? I picked up a cheap and nasty player in Tesco for a laugh and the back of the speaker was a few mm from the tape when the door was closed.
@darrengomes2203
@darrengomes2203 2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered one from the Tomashi shop on AliExpress. Just the thing to play back all the type 0s I had as a kid, so I can digitise them. How good is the USB connection?
@CassetteComeback
@CassetteComeback 2 жыл бұрын
The USB connection on this is just for power. You can't digitise with this. Probably the reason it sounds decent is because it doesn't have this and Bluetooth.
@EgoChip
@EgoChip 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think there was enough tape on the box. They should have used more. As for the actual player, I don't really need walkman but it's nice to know the option for a new viable player exists should the need arise. That's if the door opens. I'd still be more likely to buy a refurbished Sony though.
@lennymaunton3183
@lennymaunton3183 2 жыл бұрын
Got one on order, just the waiting game for it to arrive, update it’s arrived looks like same model you got, I’m impressed with it for the price, speaker built in is crap but with decent headphones sound is good, if asked would I recommend buying this unit my answer would be yes.
@CBitsTech
@CBitsTech 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that's a surprise. I'd have bought one for £20 just to have a play, but I already have a couple of proper Walkmen and a shoebox player so I have no need. They deserve some sales. I deleted my earlier comment, but you should check it in your emails (if you get email notifications for comments), just in case you didn't realise.
@DJTonyCMP3
@DJTonyCMP3 2 жыл бұрын
Hello 👋 Tony after seeing this item I read the manual and it said to press the stop button twice to open the cassette door
@fflynnful
@fflynnful Жыл бұрын
If you look at "specifications" for Sony Walkman players, you do not see W&F mentioned. There was a reason for that, but they still sounded decent when playing most tapes.
@tarstarkusz
@tarstarkusz 2 жыл бұрын
2 questions... How much hiss when you press play without a tape in it? Cheap amps will make a loud hissing noise, sounding just like tape hiss. It should be completely silent. 2) if you plug in the USB cable, will it charge nimh batteries?
@Musicradio77Network
@Musicradio77Network 2 жыл бұрын
I also have two portable cassette recorders including my Audiotronics Classette 148B cassette recorder which was made for schools, and my Superscope Storyteller cassette player and it was a playback only unit and it was designed for kids, but I am aware of this one.
@paulb4uk
@paulb4uk 2 жыл бұрын
My mum saved a 1985 alba aquaman in a clear out of stuff from my nans it is one of the best cheap alba branded stereos I have heard sounds decent and it is made in Japan there are also unisef branded versions so I guess that is the maker off it .most the cheaper ones I have sound average .The Sony Walkman I use the most is the wm b52 sports Walkman though I do like my sanyo,s as well most often overlooked but nearly all decent sounding .
@tiberiu_nicolae
@tiberiu_nicolae 2 жыл бұрын
Good grief man have you heard of punctuation???
@paulb4uk
@paulb4uk 2 жыл бұрын
@@tiberiu_nicolae No what is it .
@jasonhandy8442
@jasonhandy8442 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot to say great video on your behalf Never disappointed👍
@cdl0
@cdl0 2 жыл бұрын
Tony from Cassette Comeback has been watching Explaining Computers. ;-)
@FreeKraps
@FreeKraps 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they could make a stylized portable player like the ones sony made in 80's. There is potential for really cool designs. From the looks of it seems to be in the right direction. Also, they can do without the record function and built in speaker...
@ЮрийФрунзе-и5б
@ЮрийФрунзе-и5б 11 ай бұрын
Hello! There is another interesting sample from this brand Tomashi model F-315A
@UpLateGeek
@UpLateGeek 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like this might be a good little tape player to use with my vintage computers to load programs off tape.
@CassetteComeback
@CassetteComeback 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it will be loud enough unless you put it through an external amp.
@UpLateGeek
@UpLateGeek 2 жыл бұрын
@@CassetteComeback That sounds like a challenge to hack a line level output into it. I'm game!
@hamishspencer
@hamishspencer 2 жыл бұрын
Good review. What happened to Tony's Toy Chest?
@alainterieur794
@alainterieur794 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how it compares to the Jensen portable cassette player.
@janet.snakehole
@janet.snakehole 11 ай бұрын
can you record from phone using the mic jack?
@verastaki
@verastaki 2 жыл бұрын
The Sony Pure Gamma Audio Compact Cassette Tape. That was my standard until I switched to Sony's CD-IT Type II Chrome CrO2 Tapes.
@retrorambles517
@retrorambles517 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame for the money you can buy a decent Walkman off eBay in full working order like I recently have Still sounds like a decent start, be nice if they could stream line it
@techtinkerin
@techtinkerin 2 жыл бұрын
They don't record hifi by a long shot, I'd be careful as there's a magnet right next to your tape. Cheap an cheerful, back in the day I'd have used it as a portable music box as I did in school😎❤️👍
@jerryspann8713
@jerryspann8713 2 жыл бұрын
Try using a stereo mic similar to the mic system on your Sony Digital recorder and plug into the cassette recorder and making a live recording of music to test the recording ability.
@SilverGreen93
@SilverGreen93 2 жыл бұрын
Any wow&flutter measurements? Is it decent for classical music?
@verastaki
@verastaki 2 жыл бұрын
Seems allot better than my brand new GPX: CAS337B Portable mono head Tape player/ recorder I purchased few months ago brand new @ Fred Meyer's. Sounds better too. Both, the fact that it plays in stereo and no noticable w.o.w. and flutter or speed irregularities.
@absinthedude
@absinthedude 2 жыл бұрын
Almost tempted....though I have two 90s "Walkman type devices". If this can record stereo with external mini mics.....not that I would ever record a concert onto cassette...oh no....
@bogdan13058p
@bogdan13058p 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the speaker demagnetise the tape a little bit?
@yanks1fan09
@yanks1fan09 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Imagine that they made something decent.
@MatthewNorthMusic
@MatthewNorthMusic 2 жыл бұрын
great review, if you make a 40-60 db pad then you might get a line into mic recording. but anyhow i just ordered one of theses for a friends birthday.
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra 2 жыл бұрын
Doing reverse inflation calculation, this would have cost 15 quid in '92. Back then I would have wanted something a bit fancier if that was going to be my only walkman, but I would have been more than happy to pay that price for what it is, as a backup unit or whatever. This is possible because it's been directly bought from Alibaba though, no doubt the same machine is being sold in some rebadged version for twice as much or more.
@AmirZaimMohdZaini
@AmirZaimMohdZaini 2 жыл бұрын
Mine's also have this one, audio sound quality not quite good despite real stereo. Too noisy for usage with ordinary earphones/headphones unless you have some special headphones eg. KOSS Porta Pro which can dampen tape noise and also improving the sound quality as well. Also, you might need to use 3.5mm mini amplifier to make this decently cheap cassette player sounds better.
@Ur_local_planeLover
@Ur_local_planeLover 2 жыл бұрын
Looks better than the one techmoan tested. Still got the tanashin mechanism by the look of it
@CassetteComeback
@CassetteComeback 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's the only one that's available, but the mech alone isn't the only reason other modern portables are so poor.
@Strawberrydewdrop
@Strawberrydewdrop 2 жыл бұрын
Could someone explain to me the difference between mono and stereo? I've been wanting to get into cassette tapes/players and I have all of my dad's cassettes from the 80s but he unfortunately doesn't have his Walkman still :// but idk which cassette player to even get at this point bc all the ones ive seen are mono and thats apparently not good??? 😅😅😅
@pokepress
@pokepress 2 жыл бұрын
Stereo has distinct audio for the left and right. Mono uses the same signal for both. A mono player will play a stereo tape, but the channels will be mixed together.
@34Kuro
@34Kuro Жыл бұрын
You should not even try sending a line level signal in a mic level input. I did not expect that from a guy with a bunch of Nakamichis in hand.
@luanhana2100
@luanhana2100 2 жыл бұрын
Tomashi Walkmans are back .
@why-why-whywhywhy
@why-why-whywhywhy Жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂
@lassefilm
@lassefilm 2 жыл бұрын
Line in is not the same as microphone in. The result will always be something like that even with very expensive equipment.
@markouibo9445
@markouibo9445 2 жыл бұрын
This is based on some old voice recorder/dictaphone. I still have old AIWA TP-VS7... somewhere. They had built in speaker and microphone. Back then they were mono.
@CassetteComeback
@CassetteComeback 2 жыл бұрын
Then this isn't based on them as this is stereo.
@justingalasso1850
@justingalasso1850 2 жыл бұрын
They had stereo recording models in the past as well. Some had am fm stereo tuners in them too and could record in stereo from the radio.
@michaelturner4457
@michaelturner4457 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, walkman is a very generisized trademark these days. like hoover, or sellotape, or escalator, etc.
@Daijyobanai
@Daijyobanai 2 жыл бұрын
It's still used by Sony on portable players, the most expensive one cost ~3000 USD. Sony's version of iPod-esque "mp3" players.
@zsombor_99
@zsombor_99 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, that's a "microphone" input, not a "line" input, so, the input volume needs to be pretty low. But hey, it looks like even the recording is in stereo (at least from the input jack), right? 😉 Also, what if you plug in headphones and record something? Is it gonna "monitor" the input to the headphones? 🤔
@CassetteComeback
@CassetteComeback 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't monitor. I'll try it again at microscopic volume from source and see if it's any better.
@darinb.3273
@darinb.3273 2 жыл бұрын
@@CassetteComeback It may use the power light as a record indicator too, not that a signal light is going to be too much help it it does you could only set to a blinky blinky light and still not know if the tape is saturated to the point of distortion. I'm also gonna guess a permanent magnet for tape erasure. Those make the recording sound like a far off jet in the background. Anyway as you said you didn't buy it for its surperp recording abilities anyway, that is sarcasm for anyone who took me seriously LOL.
@wer123456
@wer123456 2 жыл бұрын
Monitoring would require a combination record-play head, something that even most fully featured decks of the day didn't have. So... No.
@darinb.3273
@darinb.3273 2 жыл бұрын
@@wer123456 I was referring to incoming signal like two head decks use for the LED style peak meters. Not monitoring what's been recorded like a three head deck. The two headers would give the indication of too much incoming signal. Early shoe box recorders that had manual or ALC (auto level control) had a light that indicated the recording signal strength the brighter the light the higher the signal, some manufacturers used a mechanical VU meter, typically no numbers just a red area the showed too much recording signal.
@wer123456
@wer123456 2 жыл бұрын
@@darinb.3273 I thought I was replying to zsombar... Did I not? #Confused
@johnmarchington3146
@johnmarchington3146 2 жыл бұрын
Tony, I wonder if the company makes other cassette decks/recorders of higher quality - perhaps with Dolby B (or better?). I'll check them out with a Google search. Thanks for a most interesting video. I was impressed with the wow ans flutter performance. It sounded very steady to me, so it must have a reasonable motor and solid engineering for coupling to the cassette.
@johnmarchington3146
@johnmarchington3146 2 жыл бұрын
I did a search and the answer to my own question appears to be NO.
@Rick_Todd
@Rick_Todd 2 жыл бұрын
Cool Video , Cheers.
@olegshteker
@olegshteker 2 жыл бұрын
Have they really started producing stereo cassette players on AliExpress?
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 2 жыл бұрын
apparently so.
@KenjiUmino
@KenjiUmino 2 жыл бұрын
searching for "Tomashi F-116" on aliexpress turns up blank unfortunately - anyone got a direct link?
@jasejj
@jasejj 2 жыл бұрын
The old Littlewoods Index stores used Tamashi as a brand name for cheap nasty personal stereos around 2000 or so. The logo was almost identical other than the spelling. Yes it sounds like a typical £9.99 stereo of that era. I *certainly* wouldn't pay nearly £30 for one but it's not a total disaster.
@michaelturner4457
@michaelturner4457 2 жыл бұрын
Littlewoods and Index, I thought I'd heard of this Tomashi before. Which sounds like it might be Japanese. I remember in the 80s and 90s, Dixons and Currys giving their cheap stuff Japanese sounding names, like Saisho and Matsui.
@jasejj
@jasejj 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelturner4457 Not Tomashi in the case of Index, but the very similar Tamashi - there are numerous examples on sale on eBay at any one time. Neither brand has anything to do with Japan of course, just trading on Japanese reputation. Interestingly, looking at the examples on ebay one or two of them seem to have packaging suggesting that Tamashi may have been an actual company in their own right (had a website and multi language manuals) so with that in mind this new recorder looks to be a knock off of that company given the similarity of the logos! ETA yes there definitely does seem to have been a real Tamashi company and the exact same logo is in current use by "Techo Tamashi", a company which is based in the Philippines but uses Japan in its name. So I'm beginning to think that this is/was a legitimate Japanese manufacturer (there were plenty of small companies from there that made cheap portable stuff) which had a licence deal with Littlewoods for some odd reason. And Tony's item is a knock off of a company that still has some presence out there perhaps.
@jasejj
@jasejj 2 жыл бұрын
Actually you know what, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the Tamashi company was/is a rebranding of the Crown Radio Corporation, who were Japanese (a very old company at that) . Why? Well, Littlewoods stopped selling Crown stuff at around the same time they started With Tamashi, both companies made a point of putting "Japan" under their name despite all the stuff being made in China, and they sold a very similar line of small consumer electronics. They used a wide range of brands down the years (Lasonic, Unisef etc) and as far as I am aware the parent company (which began with M but I can't remember it now) is still around.
@DavidSusiloUnscripted
@DavidSusiloUnscripted 2 жыл бұрын
First!!!!!!!! Finally!!!! Greetings from an Aussie in Canada
@TERRORBOGARD77
@TERRORBOGARD77 6 ай бұрын
Tomashi or panda walkman?
@Bleats_Sinodai
@Bleats_Sinodai Жыл бұрын
I ordered one, but received an F-119 instead of the 116, and it's MONO 😶
@SFtheGreat
@SFtheGreat 2 жыл бұрын
Does it utilize the USB-C for the headphones as well, or power only?
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 2 жыл бұрын
power only
@oscarestivencarabalyherrer1279
@oscarestivencarabalyherrer1279 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Is that a Tomashi Cassette player?
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 2 жыл бұрын
it is, but not sure why you needed to ask.
@macdaniel6029
@macdaniel6029 2 жыл бұрын
"Sounds like a cheap walkman from the 90s" is the best china can make. I´ll still prefer a cheap model from the 90s ;)
@DM-dx4nq
@DM-dx4nq 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the chair?
@kelvingreen3736
@kelvingreen3736 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting.
@azoriusmage
@azoriusmage 2 жыл бұрын
Would be better if they dropped the speaker to keep it slimmer
@Ale.K7
@Ale.K7 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@djhrecordhound4391
@djhrecordhound4391 2 жыл бұрын
One minute in and there's ads AGAIN ALREADY? Bit greedy aren't ya, KZbin...?
@greatestytcommentator
@greatestytcommentator Жыл бұрын
How Much?
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 2 жыл бұрын
17:25 earrape recorder :P line level source into a microphone input as others have said. 8:56 playback is indeed surprisingly good! odd that it has a power LED though, silly. you know when it's on because you can see the tape turning!
@henson2k
@henson2k 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite car is also Jaguar
@kolper6799
@kolper6799 Жыл бұрын
That thing awfully reminds me my panasonic RQ-20K. Ergonomics, button places, even that batteries storage is kinda same. Ofcouse 1995 desighn is better, Play button is big and its not mono. there is a on belt catcher at back to hang it on hip or other clothes. and many more details, but general look is kinda is there.
@rajan3338
@rajan3338 Жыл бұрын
I HAD 4 CASSETTE PLAYERS FROM GULF! BUT ALL IS GONE! I HAVE 200 CASSETES! ...FROM WHERE I CAN GET THIS?....WHAT IS THE COST?
@JonnyInfinite
@JonnyInfinite 2 жыл бұрын
I'd pay £200 for a new good walkman with maybe a DAB+ radio built in and a Lithium polymer battery
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