"__new__ VS __init__" In Python Tutorial (Simplified Explantion)

[@Darktega]

I think it’s worth noting that in the singleton pattern example, “init” will *always* get called after “new” if an instance is returned in “new”, meaning that if constructor gets called twice and you are setting up some attributes in “init”, those will get overridden in the next call, but object instance will be still technically the same in the example of the video.

[@vorpal22]

Good video. I have almost never used __new__ and have done my singletons through metaclasses where a Singleton metaclass maintains a dict of instances, but this did actually teach me some things I wasn't entirely sure of about __new__.

[@user-vi1tw1xw7r]

Concise and clear as always I'm finding. Thanks for some excellent explanations.

[@berkaybakacak]

new day new information... This is the first time i see the __new__ keyword in Python. Thanks Indently, subscribed

[@thodorisevangelakos]

Been lovong your channel. Lots of neat insight!

[@purplecrayon7281]

This is what I think is happening from the Vehicle example. If a vehicle has either 2 or 4 wheels, they become instances of the Vehicle class that has been initialized beforehand. But in a rare occurrence where a vehicle does NOT have 2 or 4 wheels, a new class is automatically created using __new__, but you will also need to initialize this new class with the necessary parameters/arguments. In a nutshell, you use __new__ as some kind of a "backup" class in case the instance does not meet the originalclass parameters.

[@turboblitz4587]

Unfortunately, this did not really explain to me what __ new__ actually does. It was more of a complicated Singleton Implementation

[@rogumann838]

That's what the video was, as he stated in the first 15 seconds

[@mking1982098]

new is performed before the instance of the object is created, whereas init runs after the object is already created. This means you can use the __new__ method to do things like set conditions and rules for the creation of an instance. e.g., you can do value error handling etc. before actually creating instance, whereas with init any error handling breaks etc. may stop certain attributes of the class from being set and whatnot but the instance will still be created.

[@erichlf]

Did you watch the whole video? The second example is not a singleton and maybe is a bit more informative.

[@yashkulkarni2434]

Can someone tell me how was Super() invoked even though Connection isn't extending any parent class?

[@robertobokarev439]

The thing I found out is that you can annotate stated types in __new__ and dynamicly annotate in __init__ with TypeVars for Generics as an example. Just to not mess up with code.

[@NoProblem76]

Usually only used in library codes, avoid using __new__ at work. unless you have no other choice. Your IDE will get confused by this as it does not execute __new__ for u and it just assumes constructing an instance will return a new instance. Not to mention people that use your class would get so confused and could make mistake.

[@Sinke_100]

I been thinking this dude lately does videos just to get something out with little to no value, yet this one is quite interesting new thing that I didn't know of, and might be helpfull in some occasions, I would definetly try it out...hope it's now a feature of python 3.11 cause I am using 9 and 10

[@Indently]

I appreciate you subscribing to someone who posts videos with little or no value 😂

[@Sinke_100]

@@Indently you love Python and you have nice voice, I guess good enough to stay subscribed 🙂 keep it up man, no hate here

[@luis_english-xy8gh]

Great video. Do you have any video explaining why ___ is used to initialize variables? I did it in C#, but I don't know if it's the same thing.

[@rishiraj2548]

Thank you

[@davidm.bm01]

3:56 if the object doesn't have __eq__ the code performs de is operator

[@frd85]

Very helpful.

[@viktoreidrien7110]

thanks bro

[@mrhunter7]

which editor are you using ?

[@woster4055]

It is pycharm with beta UI

[@maxca]

So in the last example, when we create mb = Vehicle(2), mb is an object of the class Motorbike and no longer Vehicle?

[@naturfagstoff]

No. It is both, mb is a Vehicle of 'type' Motorbike.

[@ron与数学]

@@naturfagstoff MaxCa is right. It is no longer a Vehicle. Please see my other comment for details.

[@ron与数学]

It's strange that my comment didn't show up. I will just copy it and rephrase it here. 1. The example here loses the point that the Motorcycle and Car should inherit from the Vehicle class. I know that Indently is trying to show the power of __new__() but I think it is worth pointing out that if someone wrote code this way, the code better be refactored. 2. A function/method should only do what its name says, nothing more. The __new__() method is responsible for creating the instance. However, by returning `Motorcycle()` directly. It implicitly called the Motorcycle's __init__() method. I refactored the code a little bit. class Vehicle: def __new__(cls, wheels): if wheels == 4: return super(Vehicle, cls).__new__(Car) elif wheels == 2: return super(Vehicle, cls).__new__(Motorcycle) else: pass def __init__(self, wheels): self.wheels = wheels class Car(Vehicle): def __new__(cls, *args, **kwargs): print("Creating Car") return super(Car, cls).__new__(cls) def __init__(self, wheels): print("Initializing Car with 4 wheels") super(Car, self).__init__(wheels) class Motorcycle(Vehicle): def __new__(cls, *args, **kwargs): print("Creating Motorcycle") return super(Motorcycle, cls).__new__(cls) def __init__(self, wheels): print("Initializing Motorcycle with 2 wheels") super(Motorcycle, self).__init__(wheels)

[@Indently]

I completely forgot to inherit from Vehicle, you're right!

[@naturfagstoff]

Apologize for my kneejerk reaction there, @maxca. You are completely right. @hollyandprosper explains it in detail. Even if the Vechilcle class is called upon, and thus should be creating an object of type Vehicle, it does not do that, but instead creates Motorbike if 2 vheels, and a Car if 4 vheels. Strangely enough, the Vechicle class only creates an instance of it's own type as an exception, that is if the number of wheels is NOT 2 or 4. And as @Indently admints, he completely forgot to inherit from Vehicle when defining those two other classes, Motorbike and Car. I was too quick there,and maybe made the same mistake as @Indently, in assuming the code followed usual design principles for classes and objects, but the code actually does not do that. So excellent and very important point.

[@arkie87]

how on earth do you get pycharm to look that good

[@alexjando4880]

Great video, but it's pretty much a complete copy of mCoding. In his video he has the exact same connection example, and a similar example to vehicles.

[@Indently]

If that's what you think, looks like mCoding copied it from the same website that I got the examples from 😂

[@edhyjoxenbyl1409]

@@Indently The thing is mCoding writes it own examples

[@Indently]

So do I, but I'm not hiding that I take inspiration from examples that are shown on python.org, or other websites. The original example for the vehicle was actually inspired by an example that was meant for an Animal class, where instead of wheels, they used legs.

[@CoentraDZ]

And that's how you implement a Singleton using Python.

[@i007c]

what is this a mcoding clone 😂😂

[@Indently]

Not at all, mCoding is an incredibly talented programmer and teacher. I make videos because I love Python :)