New Way to Farm PSE?! | Captans and Quartz Skodin | PSO2:NGS

[@rokmare]

People in the new zone are mainly there for arms refiner 2 which were reported to drop from bosses in trials

[@JPG.01]

Just follow the symbols. After 2 or 3 PSE burst rotations, you will be getting a string of trials after 1 or 2 E marks. Which will give you PSE bursts consistently.

[@SakaiCross]

Thanks for sharing informations. Doing trials is mandatory in Neusen Plant as killing bosses is the only way to effectively farm Arms Refiner II but getting constant PSE burst or "uncles" is satisfying :D

[@zeroenth7743]

The other issue with trying to focus on the meter is that everyone typically has the floating combat robot in Neusen which auto-targets nearby enemies. You might be running to the trial when the meter is at 4, then your robot friend kills a monster along the way and suddenly you're back down to 3 even though you're avoiding combat with other enemies besides the trial. The other reason you want to focus on trials in Neusen is that the bosses drop the arms refiner ii. I was easily able to get enough of them to +60 my 3 armors and 4 different weapons as a free to play this week without needing a to stack a ton of rare drop boosts. Typically I'd only have 40-50% rare drop rate active. A total of 30% from region mag after feeding it, another 9% from add-on skill bonus, and the occasional 10% boost from the concert buff.

[@Sodisna]

What've noticed is that after a certain amount of time, Trials will just keep spawning right after each other.

[@ZNRenova]

FIRST, LESGOOO also, i'll be sharing this FO SHO! 😁

[@SummonSkeletons]

I hope this new update after Stia has no combat zones and does something different! Tired of being yelled at for how to play them from month old players. Seriously, no matter how I play them some try-hard has to scream in the chat. I try and go with the majority, and if 6 people are doing Ts and Es I do not want to be left behind with no loot. Feels like i am damned if I do, damned if I don't and everyone thinks they are right. But at the end of the day if it is going to bother you that much please....*PLEASE* create a private room or just communicate respectfully in the chat instead of being upset. Its just a game people, have fun.

[@thenobody1546]

I do find it a bit annoying when people go to E to T instead of feeding the meter but that about it. Never try to correct them and tell them what they need to do. When I see the meter with 3 bars I try see if there mobs near the trial to feed the meter to 4. This new combat zone definitely make this no longer a issue.

[@theoaremevano3227]

@@thenobody1546 : I tend to try to clean up enemies previously marked by an E before a T replaces it, since they, in theory, should still have only a 5% chance of PSE down, v.s the normal 10%. That's it, really. If it works, it works, if not, you'll probably get a storm, Aina/Manon Trial or Encore Boost soon anyway.

[@piperpimper5838]

I believe this combat zone is made with that in mind, I think the trials appearing quickly has to do with the new Arms Refiners II and increasing your chances to find a Skodin Dragon. It feels intentional by design but I agree that something different needs to happen or the PSE system needs a rework

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

I'm with you there. I'd personally like a better method of making Meseta in game that also won't completely obliterate the economy of NGS (though it's getting there). For example, FFXIV allows you to make money in different ways, while making it worth the time to do it. Right now, I only really play NGS either for Dark Falz Aegis or when the weekly reset happens. I'm looking forward to the housing update, as that looks amazing (I hope they don't make it a premium thing, as that'd be extremely scummy in my opinion). My biggest hope though is to see more meaningful content added to the game, as well as an improved grind like Dark Falz Aegis and its weapon drops. Seriously, don't change the weapon drop thing, keep it like that as it gives players a reason to grind content without making them want to throw themselves down a flight of stairs

[@kekansaru]

I've never seen anyone complain about that in Nuesen

[@harleyducote5982]

Krono, Fresh and the ship 3 lads had an incredible farm doing this exact thing BUT we would room swap for the side step bombs as they are busted and if 8 people focus the side step bomb with each hitting for 34k upwards to 61k per bomb we were deleting trials in seconds. Side step bomb rooms for lyfe

[@josephsanchez1668]

Yeah people need to learn how to side step while fighting. I was destroying these monsters!!!

[@KystalStar]

Just recently found out about this method for the Neusen Plant! This is good to know! It definitely will be easier to focus on the Es and Ts

[@holonholon1141]

Might be the maths background but I never found a convincing argument, theoretical or empirical, as to why "feeding the meter" should be faster than just doing trials, given the trial has a 0.95 probability of shifting you up a PSE tick. Even getting 10s of rolls a second in Alnothe R1, on average you can expect several minutes to transition from 0->2 and then 2->4 pips, so it's a small optimisation if at all. The other issue is that the community has provably (in the mathematical sense) wrong ideas about other game mechanics, so I really want to get to the source of the "feed the meter" strat. Community wisdom is just not credible.

[@theoaremevano3227]

If you're looking for the source, it started with videos posted around the release of Retem, and back then users like Anamana (Gemma) still reported that it was only significantly more effective in cases where you had the power or advantage to REALLY carve through enemies fast, and otherwise it wasn't really a huge difference and more of a preference. Some players, of course, took "This CAN be more effective in certain conditions" as "This is the ONLY thing that works", and ignored the videos reporting that all enemies still had a slight chance to decrease the meter anyway, and beacons marked with a T or E only seemed to offer -5% chance of a down. XD That's what I remember of it anyway.

[@piperpimper5838]

Yep have to agree E to T seems most effective here and to be honest I'm glad that's the case. Honestly tired of being told by randoms to go kill mobs to fill the bar, I tend to zone out and grind my merry way by following how the group does things. Still believe the PSE system needs a rework but still unsure when that will happen

[@AlyxandasaurusRex]

No asmr krono I can hear you now

[@JiyuKishiParn]

All this time I still have not seen the crystal durgun even once.

[@theoaremevano3227]

Not only does the Trial not 100% guarantee the burst, the new field features cause a TON of extra collateral damage, making the death of a random, non-E or T target much harder to avoid. Sidestep a pulse generator? That blast is going to hit whatever pops into range first. Decoys can draw any nearby enemies in, and can't be moved or stopped once deployed, meaning you could use one at 3 bars, and have the meter suddenly go up, putting the decoy in danger of blowing up Non-T or E enemies no matter what you do. Add to that the positive RNG features added, like Chaos Trials, Aina and Manon, and the Encore Booster you only get from PSE downs going off, and there's really not a lot going for the curated method anymore. Do it if you want, because it's not necessarily hurting you, but at this point it's just plain stupid to yell at people over doing it. (As if it wasn't already incredibly stupid to yell at people in an online video game in the first place.)

[@InterstitialistRecords]

Why is this such a bone of contention in the community? Every random room I've been in since day one has chased t&e and it PSE bursts all the damn time. People are trying to force complexity onto this game that just isn't there. I follow the group and we burst so much it gets obnoxious. If you(not you Krono) want to bark orders like you're the Big Dick of Neusen Plant, form a private group. The game isn't a job and you're not my boss. I quit Destiny so I no longer had to follow commands from raid clan idiots for "hop on one foot, stand in circle for 3.5 seconds, crouch twice and throw ball or we wipe" garbage. It's exhausting. If people want to chase, let them chase. It's not a big deal.

[@piperpimper5838]

Honestly I tend to ignore people who try to 'control' the randoms, the enemies are getting tankier so 'filling the bar' doesn't seem effective if not at all. It's not fair for newer players who are just trying to have a good time only to be told by one random that they need to do X and Y. I mean they are new and they are strangers why do they have to listen lol.

[@707zacbuster]

Once people got their AR2s or their gunblaze weapon with a certain affix they want. Their competely done with the new combat zone

[@moreOddThanNess]

Imo the phase where you get trials back to back to back is a phase in itself in this area. Also feels liek often pse meter is stuck during that.

[@eldora3641]

i notice that what ever region enemy gets killed in the trails all pse bursts i its enemies in that region example if nex aelio gets killed in trail dotts and pettas pop up

[@Weda_Bretajune]

I love this combat sector because of the Mario jump pads and DDR dodge pulses. Though the decoy one is kinda boring... only because the throwing of one is clunky and doesnt go far.

[@reidloscidem3562]

Arms II only drop from bosses. Trials are full of them. So treating this area like Retem is out of the question. I wish we could level up our old gear. That would be sweet.

[@Nomadic_Gaming]

second also the new plant is good shit honestly

[@Susukihotaru.]

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[@kyokusanagi9800]

Please don't encourage people to clear Trials instead of spreading out and filling PSE Gauge beforehand, global is already insanely rough to farm PSE with so many people running towards Es and Trials, while they did make it faster if you do that compared to before, spreading out and filling the gauge still the better and efficient method. JP players already know that and even in PUGs i can burst PSEs in a minute or so.

[@SummonSkeletons]

No! From my experience playing since day one on base and over 7,000 hrs *the majority* of people just go to the Ts and Es when they pop up. If it is going to bother you, please get a group beforehand and communicate your plan in a private room or just use the chat to tell people your plan. I just go with the flow of the majority and i am tired of being called a noob by players who just started a month ago. Not to mention this new area you need to farm bosses/trials NOT PSE bursts.

[@earthpotato5143]

@@SummonSkeletons Nah, the PSE burst method topic has been controversial since the beginning of the NGS game launch, a lot of global NGS creator talk about it and suggested method that are supposedly better, there's even someone who go far to take hard/numerical data regarding which method is more efficient. I remember back then it was rough in the combat zone where people were pointing fingers on each other for doing differently. I'm pretty sure the players who went for the Ts and Es are either new player or console players. Yes new area does have more beneficial towards Trial because of the Arms Refiner II, but that's only for the beginning, once they max out their gears after that people are going to go back to the meseta grind, and they're going to go for the most efficient way of farming, and then the method of Ts and Es will be discussed again, a lot global NGS creator will talk about this topic again, there's going to be peoples who spend their effort and time gathering hard data will share their data and the cycle will repeat.

[@kyokusanagi9800]

​@@SummonSkeletons Exactly why global is rough to pug, a bunch of people with "Everyone is wrong so i'll be too" mentality that makes the game rot, Also very funny that you're tired of being called a noob and yet instead of improving not only yourself but others, you spread misinformation and bash people who are trying to make things better. Very moronic behaviour. "Not to mention this new area you need to farm bosses/trials NOT PSE bursts." Another reason why you're wrong and misinformed, PSE BURST BOSSES not only have the increased chance of being Elite(Elite ones already having better drops) but they also have increased drops, and that is all in the game system files that people already datamined. Yep you deserve the server you play, no wonder people keep bashing the game 24/7 not only it has subpar content you have to play with a bunch of moronics like ​ @Matelijan Muck

[@josephsanchez1668]

I do what I want when I want if you don't like it go make a private room!!!

[@earthpotato5143]

It would be great if it's a factual data rather than a feel video, I know that you're speaking from experience, but I prefer hard data to back up your claim. The "PSE burst method" topic is already pretty controversial right from the launch of the game, and I know I'm going to get bashed in here for disagreeing with you, but I prefer the old method where pop trial only when it's 4 bars even if it's in the Neusen Plant. Yes, the new spot does give more Trial, but it doesn't mean it gives you more PSE burst since the meter is the same bitch that goes up and down anyway. From my experience I'd 4 Trial in a row, and it doesn't trigger a PSE burst, I feel that I'm wasting more time fighting a boss that's more tanky to kill rather than a mob that's softer to kill just to increase a single bar. I know that people are going for the Trial in the Neusen plant is because of the Arms Refiner II drop from boss, but that is only for the beginning, after people maxed out their gear it's going to go back to the meseta grind. For those who say go farm somewhere else, currently there's no other player who farm meseta outside Neusen Plant, Retem Alnothe is always empty, at least during the time I'm playing that is.

[@Noone-rx7kw]

Ok. So. don't get me wrong, LOVE all the support these content creators are giving out with these videos and what not. Really nice 100% honest. With that being said.....I cant help but feel like that Jackie chan meme where he has his hands above his head with the "wtf?" expression on his face. How can you make it to current end game content such as stia and still NOT KNOW how the pse bar or mechanics in general work? i dunno. I'm weird i guess. It just blows my mind that i'll be farming ether solo or with my usual party in the Neu plant and suddenly have people ask questions about "how to raise the bar" or "how do we trigger the encore?" and my INITIAL thought is "...how the f#$K did you make it this far without learning this back in alieo for gods sake?". BUT i hush my thoughts and also help where ever i can. Just....had to throw that out there lmao! overall 10/10. Side addition, yes. I'm sitting on about 13 arm refiner 2's and that was AFTER maxing my Efitus and even decided to go back to Obsidia and max that. Arm refiner 2's does in fact drop MOSTLY from the Trial bosses. What i noticed is their more frequent with (oddly enough) Retem's vet's. So Fortus and Lizardio or however you spell his name. Those 2 bosses in particular have NEVER failed me in dropping arm refiner 2's but you can also gain 1 or 2 from the PSE Burst F's. The gold bursts. Hell my luck is so A$$backwards that i'm trying to get my hands on a gunblaze katana with a fixa 5 for myself NOT to sell but all i keep getting is the alamti's and damn Arms refiner 2's -.-' which i DONT need now >.>. Blessed with a curse from the RNG gods.