You are becoming the best bike reviewer bro who gives detailed review! Want to see you grow more in the future.. Keep up the good work.
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot brother!!🥰
@sunilkumarparhi99435 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Right... He'll grow more and more
@tanvirrrrrrrrrr4 жыл бұрын
i agree from Bangladesh
@nitishranjan62043 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen this or unicorn for city ride?
@cardriversindia4 жыл бұрын
The reason why I like your videos is surrounding video shooting of bike ...every KZbinr shoot videos with go pro that I hate..
@gokul.shankarlingam5 жыл бұрын
Proud to own this machine very comfortable bike worth your penny 💰
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
It’s a really good bike!!
@pranabchowdhury25025 жыл бұрын
I don't bother whatever you will upload on ur channel. What i truly love is " your vooce and ur way of word throwing". I've subscribed many channels. Only fan of ur voice and how the way you talk brother. May god bless you brother. Stay blessed forever.
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
That’s so nice of you bro!! Thanks a lot for the support!!
@pranabchowdhury25025 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen you are most welcome. Love from Agartala (North East) INDIA
@muthuraja15335 жыл бұрын
PRANAB CHOWDHURY exactly
@pranabchowdhury25025 жыл бұрын
Best review channel Across INDIA. thanks alot
@vickyvyshu5 жыл бұрын
One of the best reviews covering all the details. keep us the good work Man...
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot 🥰
@manasgenius115 жыл бұрын
I had already booked this bike last month and was indecisive as to which of the two new colour options I should choose. Your video has helped me to make that decision. This gloss red colour is unique and is sure to turn heads.
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Yes bro in person it’s much more striking.
@mohanrajvenkatesh19715 жыл бұрын
Excellent review man keep doing... I ever seen about the explanation of toruque and power ratio changes
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot bro!!
@itsmeruzz5 жыл бұрын
As usual.. Fantastic review bro.. Keep up the Good work ✨👍✨💥
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot bro!!
@arunpeter21854 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the English review bro👍♥️Got tired by watching unknown language reviews😅😑.U R review helps me a lot🤩🤩
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot bro!!
@arunpeter21854 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen U R Always Welcome Bro🤝🤙
@nksnikhilsingh5 жыл бұрын
Proud owner...bought it in december!
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Awesome bro!! Which colour did you get?
@nksnikhilsingh5 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen matt black!...Red wasn't available then...couldn't control my excitement😅
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Matte is always awesome bro!!
@nksnikhilsingh5 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen Keep up the awesome work bro...u seem to be like Younger version of Dino vault!😅
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
😅
@varunaeeriyaulla5 жыл бұрын
I did some modifications, mainly because of the seat. I required more cushion and a bump for the passenger (when you apply the brake, the passenger will slip forward from his position. Also, distract the rider). Also, replaced with led bulbs for the pilot light and brake light. Now I'm really happy with my bike.
@thameezsk72225 жыл бұрын
Best reveiw till date ....made through third person prospective 🤗🤗
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot🥰
@shekharsahu70005 жыл бұрын
Wow...red color looks fabulous...!
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Yes. It's much better in person. 🥰🥰
@roydekon36754 жыл бұрын
Very well informative review
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@VinaySharma-gd8uq5 жыл бұрын
Awesome review bro....superlike for your narration, descent camera angles.. I need one suggestion from your side which one you pick between baleno cvt and i 20 cvt
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
I would pick i20 CVT bro. And thanks a lot bro.
@VinaySharma-gd8uq5 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen thanks for the suggestion bro. Reason to pick i20 cvt?
@sulatabiswas71804 жыл бұрын
Style of your speaking is unique
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
😊
@s.ashwin__34 жыл бұрын
Anna how about the build quality of the fz v3 bs6 ?
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
It's similar to the BS-4 v3 bro. I doesn't feel cheap but not very premium too. It will last well if you are not a rough handler!!
@karthikbalaji23445 жыл бұрын
Is bs6 fz better than x blade..? 😉
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Good question bro!! Well let’s leave that discussion for now and wait for BS-6 X Blade. 😜
@gnanasekarrs86575 жыл бұрын
I bought xblade after ur review only bro
@sunilkumarparhi99435 жыл бұрын
Awesome style bro.. you are looking really nice
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot brother. 🥰😇
@sunilkumarparhi99435 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen you are my brother please don't tell me thanks 😍🥰🥰🥰🥰
@govinda89955 жыл бұрын
Great review 😍👍
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro. 🥰
@sreerag32055 жыл бұрын
Welcome the updates 👏👏 Waiting for Fz 25 BS6 model review
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Yamaha should be updating it really well!! Hopefully.
@sreerag32055 жыл бұрын
😊😊😊😊
@sdutta95455 жыл бұрын
Bro which one would be better between Bs6 Gixxer and Bs6 fz ?
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Haven’t tested BS-6 Gixxer yet bro!!
@shyamkaramganti2105 жыл бұрын
Good explanation
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!!
@_FridayFoodVlog__4 жыл бұрын
Which bike handles best? Fzs v3 or Gixxer?
@prassannababubaskar85815 жыл бұрын
Very nice bro... Please upload other 150 segment bs6 bikes..
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Sure bro!!
@sakthivineth79085 жыл бұрын
Bro , Red or Dark knight , which is best for long run..
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Both should last well if you take care of it. Personally I like the Red colour.
@sakthivineth79085 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen thanks bro
@vamsikrishnayerra37764 жыл бұрын
Bro which colour is best red or blue please send ur openion
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the red bro
@kathikr93605 жыл бұрын
Good review✌️✌️
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
😇
@pravinmurthy5 жыл бұрын
The max power is now 12.4Ps@7250rpm vs BS4's 13.2@8000rpm.. what that means is to access the additional power you have to be above 7250rpm!.. The FZs have always been bikes for 3000-7000rpm mid range.. Therefore practically the performance doesn't make any difference! In terms of max torque 13.6Nm@5500rpm now vs BS4's 12.8Nm@6000rpm.. again in terms of load carrying ability, now the BS6 is superior.. the additional torque is more noticed when you have a higher weight on the bike say a Pillion.. On the whole the FZ remains one of the best practical, classy bike in the segment..
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
The max power reduction should reduce the max speed the bike could hit. And Torque improvement like you said should be beneficial when riding with a pillion but if you did test ride both the BS-4 and BS-6 variant you should be able to tell the difference in the acceleration. And yes FZ is always a great option in this segment.
@SadanBabuscorpionking5 жыл бұрын
Did you buy this bike,,,, if u bought then how much will it cost on road,,, and your location
@cbokl5 жыл бұрын
കിടു.. how about the body quality and gear shifting
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro. Build quality nala aa. Same as old. Gear shifting um smooth anu bro.
@cbokl5 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen 🥰
@sweetheart78845 жыл бұрын
Nice bro...how is night light visibility....in this bike and in the two bikes fzs bs6 red and apache 160 4v bs6 what we have to buy
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Night time visibility is good. There are better ones in the segment but with the FZ you will be more than fine. I haven’t tested BS-6 RTR 160 4v yet. Will update soon after testing.
@sweetheart78845 жыл бұрын
Tq.....for good reply
@dineshjejurkar29955 жыл бұрын
Which one should buy gixxer bs4 or fzs bs6 ?
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
I would suggest FZ bs6
@dineshjejurkar29955 жыл бұрын
Would you suggest fzs3 bs 6 for long ride like Ladakh
@asharikrishn4 жыл бұрын
Which one is better for those with back pain... unicorn bs6 or fz bs6
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
I would suggest unicorn!!
@asharikrishn4 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen thanks
@shubham30094 жыл бұрын
Bhai kya isme fuel tank panel ka issue hai. Please suggest
Thanks a lot bro!! And sure Malayalam review cheyum bro!!
@victor465954 жыл бұрын
Out of Unicorn 160 bs6 and fz v3 bs6 which one has better headlight illumination? Does fz v3 with a pillion hits its underbelly while going above a speedbraker?
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
I do prefer the LED headlight of the FZ and you won’t face any such issues with the under side in the fz.
@victor465954 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen Thank you for the reply.Great Review
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@girishd50754 жыл бұрын
@@victor46595 bro, I have bs4 FZ V3, if the rider and pillion each of them weigh around 65 to 70kgs, underbelly of bike hits the speedbumps. I have faced this issue many times when I have a pillion. So I will have to slow down the bike to avoid this and slowly pass over the speedbump. This issue is due to soft rear suspension.
@victor465954 жыл бұрын
@@girishd5075 at what speed the undellybelly hits the speed bump? I am about to buy this bike next week?
@OfficialGamingNerd5 жыл бұрын
Good video! Which bike would you suggest me for around 1.2 lakhs?
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
As of now this is a great option in that price range. But I would suggest just to wait maybe for 1-2 months so that there will be plenty of options.
@OfficialGamingNerd5 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen thank you, what about gixxer sf? That's a good option?
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s a great option.
@OfficialGamingNerd5 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen okay thank you so much will mostly get gixxer sf
@aneeshbhaskar16935 жыл бұрын
Excellent job thanks how much it would be bro?
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
It would cost approx 1.20Lakh on road bro!!
@unknownperson66154 жыл бұрын
Waiting for Hornet BS6 which will be more better than fz bs6
Red Color ke liye 10 din rukana pada mujhe🤗 Tuesday ko milega 😍
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
😍😍
@mseditz59754 жыл бұрын
What is the build quality of tank in fz bro
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
It's fine. If we take care it's gone hold well.
@mseditz59754 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen kkk bro
@naturelover66934 жыл бұрын
I bought this bike on 15th January, in the beginning i was able to get 52-55 mileage at 50-55kmph speed Now after first service it gives Nearly 58-60 at 50-55kmph speed.. I'm surprised by this result,, is anyone getting the same??
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
That’s a great number!!
@rajasekharjacksparrow92054 жыл бұрын
How was bike experience bro
@naturelover66934 жыл бұрын
@@rajasekharjacksparrow9205 excellent handing to be honest, The grip it gives while cornering is awesome.
@rajasekharjacksparrow92054 жыл бұрын
Milage entha vastondi bro
@naturelover66934 жыл бұрын
@@rajasekharjacksparrow9205 nenu 50-55 lo drive chestha most of the part.. sometimes 70-80, first service ayindi bro, mileage 62 vachindi (423kms with 6.8litrs)
@rahuldutta14525 жыл бұрын
sir Apache 1604v bs6 or yamaha fz v3 bs6! which one is best? confused too much!
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Hi I haven't got a chance to test RTR 160 4v BS-6 yet. Will surely update after testing.
@rahuldutta14525 жыл бұрын
thq sir ji waiting for your video
@rahuldutta14525 жыл бұрын
❤️
@abhishekzagade71315 жыл бұрын
Xblade or fz which is better sir
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
As of now we didn’t get the BS-6 update for X blade and if you compare the Present BS-4 X Blade and BS-6 FZ I would pick the BS-6 FZ.
@b.suneelkumar74745 жыл бұрын
Is it comfort for 5.11 ft hight persones....plz reply bro.
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Yes bro!! I am 5.10 and it was perfect for me.
@nrjsingh944 жыл бұрын
Tank side panals problem?
@mseditz59755 жыл бұрын
Broo hornet bs 6 when will com
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
It should be launched soon. Maybe within a month.
@ramjir34425 жыл бұрын
Dude I'm going to buy a bike in pongal celebration. Which one should i pick, fz s v3 or the Gixxer 155? Pls comment your suggestions
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
As of now with the BS-6 FZ I would suggest the FZ.
@umamaheshwarbhat98324 жыл бұрын
My height is 5'11 is this suitable for me? Does riding this bike gives any back pain issues?
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
Suspension is a bit stiff but still there isn’t any back pain issues
@umamaheshwarbhat98324 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen Yamaha fz v3 or hero xtreme160r or honda x blade bs6 which one do you recommend for tall riders?can you rate these bikes on a scale of 1 to 3
@sriharshapendyala81094 жыл бұрын
bro can we cruise in 95-100 on highway say 300 to 500 km a day with the seating or any modification required ?? please clarify
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
You can do that.
@shreyestandel44912 жыл бұрын
You cannot, are you kidding, it struggles post 90kmph, u can cruise at 80- 90 kmph
@rishab.r.g45215 жыл бұрын
What about in rainy season is bike has enough grip and does it prevents mud safety from rear for pillion so his shirt don't get dirty
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
You should be fine in wet conditions because the tyres does grip on well. Now I didn’t get a chance to test the rear hugger in wet conditions but I think it should be good enough to keep you safe from dirt.
@varunaeeriyaulla5 жыл бұрын
It's fine but you have clean the rear shock if there is mud.
@chandarkumarnatarajan5395 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr. Biju, I request you to do the review of the New Royal Enfield 350 Classic bs6. Thank you.
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Will surely try to get one for review!! 👍🏻
@beingarider8264 жыл бұрын
Very very nice bike
@ThePrabhu6664 жыл бұрын
Need a big instrument cluster
@adithiyamb38385 жыл бұрын
Bought bs4 matte blue 2 weeks ago nyc byk 🔥🔥
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the ride bro!!
@adithiyamb38385 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen thanks bro 🤙🤙
@generalvideos015 жыл бұрын
Make video for fzs bs6 , for the subject of wheel build qulity.
@prince1995moh5 жыл бұрын
can u do a milage test after second service.
@Rohitdamyant5 жыл бұрын
Hi, i need your help on this, m planning to buy a bike.. what should i go for bike or scooty..hv on my mind - Ntorq, avenger 160/200 street or Yamaha fzs Plz assist
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
If your use is basically only for city rides and you want to do grocery and stuff then scooter is the one I will recommend. And in that case I would suggest NTorq. But if your Use is city commutes and occasional touring then I would suggest to get a bike and in that case I would recommend the fzs.
@vt40255 жыл бұрын
Apache 4v or fzs 3.0 Plz review going to buy in 4 days
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Hi TVS Apache RTR 160 4v BS-6 is not yet available in showrooms near me. Hope to do the review as soon as one is available.
@vineethbhat96105 жыл бұрын
Hi does the rear disc have RLP ?
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Yes there is RLP.
@vineethbhat96105 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen thanks !
@MuscularMan0085 жыл бұрын
Plz do long highway review.
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@vsanand19965 жыл бұрын
Njn same colour vangiye..very nice to see on road.💓💓💓. malfunction light matrm on..😪😪
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry bro Athu ellupam fix cheyam!!
@vsanand19965 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen 😍
@dheerajkumar5415 жыл бұрын
Gear position and rear tyre mudguard is missing.. These two are very very important
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
The instrument cluster is very small and like you said the gear position indicator should have been there. For the rear tyre having the hugger is a good thing.
@Subhodeep19884 жыл бұрын
Hello Sir..Can I install a digital gear shifter indicator to the new yamaha fzs F1 VS 3 BS6...2020 model...If yes then please guide....
@mrnikisharma95773 жыл бұрын
My❤Favorite Colour & My❤ Favourite Bike But 1 issue is there seat Cushineing are not Soft👎
@syedqaiserabbas73194 жыл бұрын
I wish if Yamaha had kept the BHP as it is cause it was already less but now is has become mediocre
@madhusudanbhusal4404 жыл бұрын
Hlo brother! Much love✌🏾 Plz tell me how much speed does bs6 fzs v3 gains speed in 5th gear at 5000 rpm (since it redlines at 8500 rpm)??
@jkrishnan305 жыл бұрын
Bullet 350 bs6 will be out soon (classic already came). Also waiting to see unicorn bs6. Confused which one to buy. Love the design and look of fzs red. Fzs V3 @ 1.25 lakh or bullet 350 es at probably 1.7 lakh ..I really like the new Fzs. But people say great things about bullet ride quality and posture. I have never ridden. Unicorn will be about 1.2 lakh.
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
I think in couple of months after all the BS-6 bikes are in market you will be able get a much better picture which one suits you.
@bhagathkrishna25425 жыл бұрын
Broo interseptor review edanae...
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@troubleman46335 жыл бұрын
Please make a video with mt15
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Sure!!
@kevingrose70805 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
👍🏻🥰
@brucekent74425 жыл бұрын
No Fair...all this while youwere praising Xblade now its FZ???
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
They both are good bikes bro. X Blade is still my favourite pick from BS-4 bikes in this segment. And now we are getting BS-6 bikes And this bike is a great example for all manufacturers. And let’s hope Bajaj, TVS, Suzuki, Honda and all others make exceptional BS-6 versions.
@brucekent74425 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen I am still unable to understand how Honda can use same engine in 3 different bikes and keep the differntly tuned I mean is it the carb or the fuel jets or the airfilter...fo eg how is a hornet more faster than a Xblade,is it as simple as Carb tuning or is anyother factor involved?
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
It’s just Carb tuning. Honda wanted Hornet to be the top performer and that’s why they tuned X Blade differently. But still X Blade felt more responsive.
@girishd50754 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen well explained bro👌👌👌❤️
@pranabchowdhury25025 жыл бұрын
Can you please review on gixxer 155sf full faring. Its my humble request brother
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Sure bro will do the Gixxer SF 155 review!!
@prakashd29235 жыл бұрын
I bought bs4 version few months ago. The new bs6 version has better torque😏
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Yes bro it has better torque and that's an added bonus but still the old fz was also a great bike.
@nataraja.sharma5 жыл бұрын
Xpulse please
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Will surely be doing hero bikes soon.
@abhijeetnanda27005 жыл бұрын
Do review of avenger cruise 220
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Will surely do if we get a review unit!!
@sunilkumar-ng4qp5 жыл бұрын
Bro do 1L mailage test
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@a.svasial8845 жыл бұрын
Bro malayalam channel undo?
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Yes bro. Everything Malayalam from TBC
@a.svasial8845 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen bro channel link ayakko
@dryuva75674 жыл бұрын
Bro gud handling nd ride comfort in city usage nd decent mileage is my priority family use too .. can I go for fzs V3 or RTR 160 4v or can I wait for hornet bs6 .. suggest a better bike for me bro
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
I will suggest to maybe wait and check the Hornet too bro.
@dryuva75674 жыл бұрын
@@ThamarakshanBijuCen okay bro .. if time delays can I go for fzv3 bs6 over RTR 1604vbs6 ? Priority is family usage nd comfort in city condtn with decent mileage bro
@inshad97295 жыл бұрын
താമരശൻ നല്ല അവതരണം
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot bro!!
@balajikumar87035 жыл бұрын
Waiting for bs6 Apache 160
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
Will do a review as soon as we get one!!
@manopodiyan72965 жыл бұрын
കൊല്ലം bypass 😍😍
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
☺️
@kopikanbalachandran58165 жыл бұрын
Head seems to be worst..🤗🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️🙆🏻♂️
@govusandeep33353 жыл бұрын
Perfect for middle class
@maslemasail54125 жыл бұрын
Gixxer bs6 is better than this bike fz bs6
@sekharleo6124 жыл бұрын
I'm buying new bick fzs v3 bs6 the engine mall function light always on riding just 200 km
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
You need to reset it from service centre!!
@sugitpratama11134 жыл бұрын
😥sayang ngga masuk indonesia😥
@anilamireddy82914 жыл бұрын
👌👌👌👌❤❤❤❤
@ThamarakshanBijuCen4 жыл бұрын
🥰
@manaintiammayi79275 жыл бұрын
Activa 5G or fzs version 3.0 which is better for daily use office??
@ThamarakshanBijuCen5 жыл бұрын
I would suggest the fzs v3.0 BS-6.
@tambraknd98334 жыл бұрын
Go for activa,i regret buying this one
@shreyestandel4491 Жыл бұрын
@@tambraknd9833why
@BMK-ob2mp4 жыл бұрын
Which bike is better apache 4v or Fz s fi v3?? For family purpose