New Yi Sun-shin Revamp: Ultimate Mechanics & Major Changes

[@CosmicNTT]

Revamp ❌ Major Nerf ✔️

[@JustForFun-gn9bg]

So real

[@Ornyl]

Not a major nerf, except for the ult. If they keep the ult just like how it is, this seems a very good adjustment

[@UNnluckyEngaNgamba-oe8mx]

Nup players yss is out off meta this new yss is way lot more good then now

[@Ornyl]

@@UNnluckyEngaNgamba-oe8mx except for the ult, new one is pretty good.

[@deadkachu7678]

Did yu sin went to Diddy party.

[@bruhbruh9895]

"Aurora 1st Skill'' ahh ult 😭😭😭

[@pajamaguy6000]

Worse than Aurora's 1st skill😭

[@chadgrimwell8380]

Weak damage and is locked

[@KENKANEKI-ot6ok]

Ksi ahh song

[@SkullEmojihunter]

​@@KENKANEKI-ot6ok from the screen to the ring to the pen to the bin 🔥🔥🔥

[@targonyt7258]

Aurora 1st skill with requirements 😂

[@abhishekprajapati5994]

Revamp ❌ Nerf to the fking ground for no reason ✅

[@LivingLegend0916]

accurate

[@JohnPaul-v2f]

i heard its for a collab but moonton should have known better

[@JaspervonPaez]

Correct 💯

[@RealXellan]

It’s not nerf

[@kingsygamingmlandlol4579]

It's okay guys, we cancelled the Lunox Revamp we can also cancel this too.

[@Dmitry_Russia]

Keep dreaming about that not going to happen because yss ult was taken for a new hero who's going to be launched

[@tykun8512]

​@@Dmitry_Russia Let's just hope, that it will be cancelled

[@lowebennetie3513]

It's okay the Indonesians will not like it , sure it will be cancelled short after

[@shivaneshkumar.m2368]

Definitely we have to... Look how they massacare my boy😢

[@dannyroo1631]

Yes . YSS goes with a boat

[@hendrixignacio]

Moonton was tired of creating customized bases and minecraft boat for yss

[@darkknight04299]

Y it's so true

[@xackironside595]

lmao

[@rozanyan_8700]

But bro, most noticible part of YSS skin are the unique base and boat, when you remove it, it feels like you rip off 80% of yss skin value😅

[@xanderyodz9514]

💀😅😅😅

[@DevinSant]

Lmao that's a good one

[@darkknight04299]

It all went down hill since moonton got obsessed with no mana physical heroes

[@JinKolmak_TaKo]

Nah the moment they started to listen and care about kids opinions it went downhill

[@darkknight04299]

@@JinKolmak_TaKo yeah ur so right that's y my lunox got butchered last year

[@hater6329]

​@@JinKolmak_TaKo kids opinion is so right and funny at some point. New gen kids don't just understand balance adjustments at all wanting to be all cool and focus on 1 or 2 heroes alone

[@maskedninja0516]

​@@darkknight04299revamped Lunox is so good idk why they fuckin cancelled it

[@darkknight04299]

@@maskedninja0516 no it isn't coming from a lunox main 2018 U dnt even know that there s so many lunox combos missing?

[@hendrixignacio]

*no vision* *no boat* *only 1 passive* *lower crit* “here’s your passive heal and mana removal”

[@lssangmzz1346]

True

[@maroo8042]

here’s your passive heal which is crucial since yss is not a burst assassin, no mana removal hence no need to recall hence no need for boat, 1 passive crit but double the movement speed and 20 seconds ult which actually deals damage and rewars you for risking your life to switch weapons as compared to the 60 seconds purposeless ult

[@gammog]

​​@@maroo8042 Did you actually just say purposeless ult? Yeah lowrank is reeking from your comment. Mf, that gives global vision, only Aldous and YSS does that. That's the reason why YSS was META back then before getting nerfed and never buffed again. And now he got this bum of an ult that can't even be activated on creeps and is a cheap INFERIOR knockoff of Aurora's 1st skill. The only good thing here is the passive heal, fast mv speed, and no mana, as he could potentially flex lanes, but even so, he's still massively inferior compared to current META mms/jungler who dogs YSS.

[@maroo8042]

@@gammog if your main “purpose” is to provide vision then that is as far as it goes - a job for tanks and supports to begin with. This new ult enhances his damage potential - as his role suggests, an assassin/marksman. Heroes need to stay relevant with the meta (if you have a tank to provide vision for you, why compromise on your damage output just to do the same thing that a tank can do, yss is literally an assassin)

[@gammog]

@@maroo8042 Brother, your comment is reeking of low ranks. Yes, roams mostly do the vision, however they also risk getting picked off even if they have the team on their back, it's a set up for immediate ambush transitioning to a skirmish. And you'd have to play around the thought that they're split up during screening process or actually concealing a backline play, a segway play. Global vision nullifies all that. It guarantees you a safe, 5 man vision on the enemy. Who tf wouldn't want that? One ult during crucial lord play, and any form of doubts are gone, there's no "ifs" scenarios popping off the head, only clear info on what the enemy is gonna do. Which is why YSS was META back then before the nerfs and META transition, any form of ambush or concealment was useless during neutral objevtives. Brother, you're compromising for a conditional ult that barely deals more damage to his AA, and is still inferior to Aurora's 1st skill. You call that an ult??

[@endbg416]

Moonton is on drugs. Change my mind.

[@Sugoicooks]

Nah you are right

[@MarkQuestionML]

fr bro but I hope this gets reverted like the lunox revamp a few weeks ago.

[@Zecond3]

I agree

[@PlatinPark1992]

Better yss. Maybe U Guys on drugs

[@mostiqomostiqo2827]

At least they listen to players and change things bruh mlbb players are so ungrateful

[@HairthHoadish]

Who let moonton cook, the kitchen is burning

[@aarongallardo3684]

They did not toast the bread, they burned it

[@etheron1235]

​@@aarongallardo3684 They didn't burn it, they made charcoal

[@KikoYamano]

And the food is still raw

[@DevinSant]

Call the firetruck, call the firefighters!

[@alexrojas2152]

IT'S FUCKING RAW 🗣️🔥​@@KikoYamano

[@bryankim8]

His ultimate what makes him unique, it's sad that they get rid of that

[@SpyAI222]

Yeah I agree now his ult is like not an ult anymore

[@oye9969]

its his passive that makes him unique more

[@JinKolmak_TaKo]

Yss ult is getting recycled for a new hero because they are so lazy they can't even make something new

[@obviouslyme1293]

On top of that, they remove the boat too 🤬.

[@koolerstuff]

When im in a tournament of killing the uniqueness of heroes but I go after Moonton with what they are doing to the poor Hanzo, Lunox and YSS:

[@MJ_Zepol]

Dev's after revamping yss be like: Now let's revamp another heroes! 1. *Wanwan* - need 30 marks on the enemy to activate ultimate. 2. *Aldous* - need 500 stack before can use ultimate. 3. You can only use hero *Kagura* if there's a hero *Sun* on the enemy side - so her umbrella will make sense.

[@Chill_Cat7]

Moontoon would love this

[@shahil9438]

YI Sun shin pick rate is going to drop from 1% to 0😂

[@tatsuikiml938]

hahaha so there are still some players pick him even if they revamp him? LOL

[@NVEDAR]

😢😢😢😢

[@chocomepengu6295]

Better put his ult back to normal giving vision to the team is huge his ult is basically just auroras wave clear skill now 😭 it’s so bad

[@dejra2k]

but lower dmg lol

[@maroo8042]

60 seconds ult which deals no damage? nah thanks

[@johndaniel3540]

​@@maroo8042it literally gives everyone vision

[@DevinSant]

​​@@maroo8042 AND you have to activate it, seems like they hate Valentina as well lol

[@opmav-kz4tj]

​@@maroo8042o my gosh stop with your stupid takes

[@VerySpicyTaco]

Why is this company so obsessed with ruining their core game mechanics, literally not a single person wants this revamp, no one has asked for it. They tried doing the same thing with Lunox, then later came out and said oops we heard your feedback and decided not to do it ( if no one complained they would have definitely pushed her revamp to live ). The devs and managers are literally doing anything at all to say we are working and have a job, this is embarrassing. Leave YSS AS HE IS, NO ONE WANTS A REVAMP.

[@orangepie5264]

Same thing with Granger except the opposition voice wasn't loud enough. New and low ranked players were excited to spam his first skill Moonton will simply self destruct at this rate and it's so pitiful because we all loved the game

[@jenjenhocho3188]

I think the devs are taking a piss at the players because of all the complains (which are mostly valid).

[@gamershub992]

YSS as he is is not that good. It at least need some buff. If revamp then something other than this shi* Only good players with teams are for this hero.

[@FaultyDoctor6]

​@@gamershub992 they dont need to change the ult to make yss good. He just needs a movement speed buff or slowness buff and thats it

[@gamershub992]

@@FaultyDoctor6 When did I say they should change ult? I said buff will do on the old YSS or If they want to do revamp then do except this what they are currently doing now.

[@henthoisingha7668]

Major L. As a yss main, after this revamp i won't be yss ever again. His ult was really a game changer in late game during neutral objectives. Yss was already a balanced hero. Devs didn't have to do him like that.

[@auskerzales24]

I posted this on another video, but the more traction is better... They should give him what they gave Suyou: Tap and Hold skill mechanic for his first skill. 1st skill [Tap] - YSS Dash with CC Immunity 1st skill [Hold] - YSS boards a turtle ship, increasing movement speed. Upon release, launches the boat forward and stunning the first enemy unit it hits. Not having the turtle ship feels like a downgrade for the hero and removes what makes him unique. And having a hold component on his first skill parallels with his 2nd skill mechanics.

[@yilongmameta1997]

That's actually genius

[@6avage_weeb401]

They're bout to use yss old ult for new hero,they're just fucking lazy

[@yssTV8WB3681]

No just make him summon it like phrasa

[@opmav-kz4tj]

No I don't really like that, in the normal server he can throw the boat and can even jump in or get out because he has a dash skill again after using the boat it is not a great change. What I would change to YSS right now? Give him a skill to get the boat globally or have some spots in the map like chip, give him the slow on second skill, first skill slow immunity? Uhm maybe but too op he should have something to be countered, and also KEEP THE ULT AS IT IS.

[@6avage_weeb401]

@@opmav-kz4tj yeah for real even if that boat skill has a bit longer cooldown so players would build fleeting time would be perfect balance

[@MA95252]

Imagine enemy running away from u and u weren't able to get the job done bcuz of his passive now having just one basic attack

[@walangaccount8984]

And no ult lmao

[@jenjenhocho3188]

Imagine not having an ult for like ever.

[@sGeerTheGeer]

GGs no hope. This is getting worse. We don't know the future of MLBB Anymore...

[@6avage_weeb401]

Wait till they nerf gatot to ground ,they're probably doing it rn

[@BETA_user7]

​@@6avage_weeb401 it started with "invisible" nerfs rn

[@DevinSant]

​​@@6avage_weeb401 Thunder Belt and now Gatot's passive damage nerf; let's wait for the next chapter.

[@6avage_weeb401]

@@DevinSant dont be surprised if some random new hero has copied old yss ult,cuz that exactly what they planning

[@jhina4m4]

@@6avage_weeb401 I mean... People built tank items on assassins, so they had to buff tank heros' stats and nerf tank items. Then people started building hybrid/full damage on tanks. Gatot deserves nerf on damage for this reason.

[@randomboy2004]

If this was a sustain fighter with massive ult range that deal massive damage than this would be awesome Blud lose his boat and map vision and he will die before he use his ult

[@6avage_weeb401]

Yeah fr man,ik his DMG is buffed but it's not enough to keep up with new heroes,like,how big DMG the suyou skill 2 tap version does if you're low on hp,plus he has ult lock worser than phoveous

[@kentrodrigoroble8822]

Totoo. Mabuburst agad to at di makakagamit ng ult.

[@kavier2581]

Time to build fighter yss

[@sauce7489]

From YSS to Gangplank copy

[@Inshiki]

As a YSS main WTF is this Garbage moonton!!! YSS vision on ult and boat got removed This is an indirect nerf FR😢😢

[@imajejemon2437]

Moonton is trying to make the players quit

[@FuriouzDragon45]

Bro this is a DIRECT NERF

[@gaminglife8103]

As Ex Yss Player: This is Bullsh*t This no longer revamp just big nerf Dont need to revamp Yss. Just buff him

[@lonehell4198]

If they bring back the bleed effect from ultimate like the old days, that would be game changing buff for YSS.

[@imajejemon2437]

I agree with you

[@GrimReaper-b3o]

Dear moontoon : I know you are trying your best to try to get more players , but this isn not the way , instead revamp ACTUALLY og heroes like eudora , zilong , baxia and other forgotten heroes , not the DUCKING Top 1 winrate yss cuz only pros play him , come on moontoon , and if you want players, FIX YOUR DUCKING MATCHMAKING , WE DONT NEED 4 EPIC PLAYERS IN A LEGEND RANKED GAME . Those who agree , like my comment and make our voices be heard 👇

[@天一一天一]

MAN 5 DAYS I STILL STUCK AT MYTHIC 28 STARS AND NOW DOWN TO 20 STARS 😢

[@HagsuahaHgagayagaj]

Revamp ❌❌ Nerf✅✅ Please don't continue this

[@ceo-2823]

REVAMP❎❎❎ NERF🤡🤣😂

[@opmav-kz4tj]

​@@ceo-2823bot

[@calebshmanderson]

THE MOMENT HE BECOME VIABLE IN RANK THEY HAVE TO "REVAMP" HIM

[@Shrine.-]

What were they thinking? No base boat means no extra stun or movement, no global ulti damage and vision, no two free crits with passive, they absolutely nuked him into the ground lol Just gotta spam them like everyone did for lunox changes and hopefully they'll revert these god awful changes

[@JinKolmak_TaKo]

They are recycling his ult for a new hero

[@duskgleam4634]

@@JinKolmak_TaKo wow mooton sucks. cant come up with a unique idea so theyre recycling skills

[@nutthings4017]

I'd argue this actually even worse than Lunox revamp, YSS literally lose his identity lol

[@opmav-kz4tj]

​@@JinKolmak_TaKobad reason for moonton, I mean we don't mind two heroes with the same ULT, just give them different playstyles

[@imajejemon2437]

​@@opmav-kz4tjYeah, similar with Luo yi and Chip they can tp allies to enemy easier. They try to nuke my favorite hero so bad

[@nomore714]

I think the idea behind the revamp is to send him to the gold lane. I'm not sure if it works, though. I feel like Moonton is removing all the marksmen from the jungle. First was Roger's mini rework and low damage, then Granger with the revamp (he might still be a decent jungler), and finally, YSS. Let's face it; it's time for melee jungle era.

[@itzprtk1736]

Yss is assassin/ mm not mm/ assassin. His main role is assassin. Just like alucard Is fighter/ assassin he is considered as fighter not assassin

[@vineshrajoojames8310]

yooo dude u fking crazy he cant even unlock his ult using minion lol

[@kripperinoobviousino6019]

​@@itzprtk1736except Alucard exp is bad af, I mean he's bad in jungle too but at least more viable

[@P.I.M.P.]

I played YSS in gold lane before his rework. It was good but i feel like you can't to the same thing with the current one. Reason being with old YSS you poke the enemy hero with second skill only(which had much more damage and his passive also gave it more damage), after they are below a certain threshhold you can finish them off with one basic attack and ult. Honestly might be playable simply because his passive healing is op, if it's still the same on minions

[@opmav-kz4tj]

​@@P.I.M.P.he can be viable gold lane in the current server, you just have to play him as a.. mm farming he can come back in late game I've been playing him a lot recently and he is balanced. Keep the old YSS

[@xanderyodz9514]

When the ultimate of a hero is just someone else's second skill💀💀💀

[@DevinSant]

Who's 2nd skill is that? (Genuine question.)

[@jenjenhocho3188]

Well it worked for Suyou...sadly I don't think it's gonna work with this skill set.

[@opmav-kz4tj]

​@@DevinSant aurora's skill but first and old Miya second skill

[@ozreniangaming5454]

We better come up with something to tell the devs on how to adjust YSS and not whatever this revamp is

[@kentrodrigoroble8822]

Rate it in playstore again to 1. 😂 It happened before with estes skin.

[@lemuelalvarez8418]

Damn its already hard enough to use yi sun shin in game when going against good enemy teams but adding all those nerfs to him will literally get him killed most of the time if not all the time. Also, taking out his boat? His boat is iconic for him!! He literally has it in every one of his skin intros. Heck, as a buff, they could’ve lowered the time of his boat to respawn instead of taking it away completely.

[@nasamanbuwan3793]

MAN I WANTED TO LEARN HIM BUT NOW,I JUST FEEL BAD.Hes not that bad to be honest,you just need time for him,removing the ult vision and boat for easy mobility is just too much,and removing the ENHANCE BASIC ATTCK OF 2 TO 1,JUST WOW

[@LivingLegend0916]

Everything that makes this dude unique is now gone, really hope this revamp will be cancelled

[@opmav-kz4tj]

OMYGOSH YES, I've practiced him since I got a skin from the free event then actually found out he is actually decent! And my bias take on him is that he is actually good!! and you are right he needs time like an mm

[@imajejemon2437]

​@@LivingLegend0916same

[@imajejemon2437]

Yeah, I've been practicing his skills before his revamp, but they moonton wanted to play more easier people who is not good using yss

[@chloejade5214]

I think Moonton must focusing in Matchmaking Phase. Not of this annoying update.😡😡😡😡😡

[@doggoborgir8935]

They seem to have forgot that he's an assasin/MM, Not a Fighter/MM, Due to how his skills now works, especially his passive

[@Mirayalamlbb]

People buy expensive skins and then the hero get changes so much . Its not FAIR . STOP CHANGE HEROS AND FIX THE GOD DAMN MATCHMAKIN

[@recklessgamer3234]

Montoon better fix your toxic matchmaking

[@ceo-2823]

👍

[@Mirayalamlbb]

Aggreee

[@israeleidenzon3390]

I still miss the old older yin sun shin he had the greates hat now it just a bandana😭

[@opmav-kz4tj]

Ohh the design! Ye that was a good design but on skills please keep the now YSS skills 😭😭

[@imajejemon2437]

I still miss his old first skill when he flip and slash

[@tsukasakadoya5419]

The devs are high again. YSS main like me will never ever like this nerf. I wonder how moonton is pushing the gamers to try HOK by ruining their own.

[@Prismyyy]

Yss loosing its identity for a so-called update/revamp like this? Nah. I'm cool with the current yss

[@imajejemon2437]

True

[@bIeed]

Moonton plz stop making skills that require conditions to unlock. I know it sounds cool but it makes it ez for good opponents to abuse the fact that you literally only have 2 skills. Edit: they removed that on Hanzo ghost form, but now they gave it to yss. At first I thought the design team was getting good, but now I think they are just trying random sht.

[@Chorcles]

o7 To those few YSS mains never going to touch their main again with this one

[@opmav-kz4tj]

Thank you for your message 😢

[@nekogempa5040]

This is like wanwan’s passive prey mark were u need 3 basic attacks for the ult to be activated i’m not a yss main but i can feel some yss users will hate this, this is just straight up nerf probably💀

[@opmav-kz4tj]

Your opinions I agree on

[@leemal7165]

@@nekogempa5040 the ultimate is not even worth it, when u hit all three, the ultimate is just miya's old 2nd skill. Wow. How moonton fucked this up

[@Ichigo-d4n]

I don’t play YSS, but removing the turtle ship and the map wide ult vision is ridiculous. This is just Lunox all over again. Removing what made YSS unique in exchange for…honestly something quite stupid.

[@djaluyudhistira3835]

The ult is just like Aurora skill 1. I prefer the ult that can gives vision to my teammates 0:14 instead of a skill 1 Aurora Edit: No vision is sucks 1:03

[@aahitagnidas8564]

Bruh, this is an overall nerf. His late game crit damage was the only thing which everyone feared. Now not only that is gone, moreover you have to constantly move from melee to ranged in ganks which is sometimes impossible. I'm an YSS user and I know that after his one or two enhanced basic, we have to use his 2nd skill to reset it and again enhanced basic and BAM...enemy has been slain. Now Moontoon not only snatched his 2 enhanced basic attacks but also the damage! Then what he is left with? That ult is of a chase/finisher assassin? Are you kidding me. Moontoon giving him some mage like ult and saying he is an assassin! Wow. Seriously?

[@sasukeuchia692]

Wtf is wrong with moonton yss doesnt need a revampe ?????

[@epicnightmare5722]

Remember all Caps.. "CANCEL THIS ULT CHANGE"

[@cMujahid]

How can you miss up this so badly, just buff him like how hard is it?

[@remveel2443]

Better ult: First ult cast marks enemy position on the map Second cast now allows you to use the new ult but castable anywhere

[@moatouya]

Man they turn Yss form 60% Usable to 99% unusable real quick.

[@fornixtail0829]

Moonton's braindead. Imagine removing the one thing that makes this hero have a semblance of usability against other assassins or marksmen. The global vision the ult provides is honestly the only thing YSS has of value right now, all in exchange for peanut buffs that don't even make him good. For one thing, his present enhanced basic attacks don't even deal that much damage if we're being honest. So the 70% critical damage scaling for all levels is a death sentence, especially late game. No chance blitzing squishy heroes now lmao. The second skill buffs are good, and should have been implemented since the beginning. The first skill is okay. Removing the Geobukseon tho, the very thing that defined and solidified YSS' position in the annals of history, is a pure joke. As it is, the turtle ship is already underutilized. If anything, the turtle ship concept should have been buffed and turned into a core mechanic that separates YSS from other heroes. Instead of not having to go back to the base as much, imagine our YSS relying on his turtle ship more often than he does right now. Instead of a timed-mount that has a very long cooldown, it becomes a semi-permanent mount that increases movement speed, armor and range, which he can dismount via his first skill. However, while mounted, YSS has limited maneuverability akin to using Johnson's ult or Baxia's 1st skill. The turtle ship remains on the area of the map it was dismounted on, and only comes back to the base once YSS dies. Could have been a good and creative way to stay true to the actual YSS, but alas, Moonton is Moonton.

[@finnmertens5883]

LET MOONTON HEAR THIS ☝️

[@captainnyan-nyan2005]

So the ship. Makes it be buffed. Rather than 1 attack from the regular nexus. It does +1 more.

[@amz2065]

From yss to SSS($hit sun shin)

[@Cleffr]

So Moonton just: - Removed his boat - Removed his global vision, for a budget Aurora 1st skill - Nerfed his damage in the part of the game he's supposed to shine in - Halved the number of passive attacks + Gave some pussy ass heal + Gave +15% movement speed on switching weapons + Gave him a miniscule boost to his mobility What the hell is this? This isn't even something like the Lunox revamp where it made her damage better or at least extremely easy to use. YSS is now even harder to use and weaker. The only way moonton can justify this is if his damage or sustain is greatly buffed.

[@opmav-kz4tj]

Or by not touching this hero at all?

[@Cleffr]

@@opmav-kz4tj YSS is hilariously weak. It was right for Moonton to give him a revamp, but this is going in the opposite direction.

[@opmav-kz4tj]

@@Cleffr I actually might be bias on him because I've been playing him and been dominating with that item that executes in a certain health range. He is really super weak in early game but he surprises me by getting back at the late game. In my opinion just giving him minor buffs is ok like the first skill slow immunity and the second skill slow, I will tell you he is not that bad for my games.

[@rutherford5247]

Congrats no one will use yi sun shin anymore 😆

[@mesagi3994]

From what I'm understanding here: Buff: - Faster Movement speed on BA with passive - Heal on BA with passive (As long as you attack switch every time) - Proper CC immune with first skill - No damage decay with second skill hold - Relatively short cooldown on ult Nerf: - No ship to glide off of (his core identity) - His passive only allows for one enhance BA rather than 2 - Said passive only deals 70% crit dmg instead of 100% then 70% for the next enhance BA - His ult needs to have markings to activate, which, personally, is janky af - No vision provider with ult (also his core identity) In my personal opinion, it's really really bad. It's all because you erase his core identity and purpose, while also making him unintentionally more difficult to play due to the nature of YSS. Needing three marks to unleash an ult that does really pitiful damage by the end, compared to his OG ult that gives vision to the map in exchange for even more pitiful damage with __no need for stacks__ is unnecessary. What I would suggest here is to keep the skill buffs and also keep the movement speed buff for him while removing everything else to return back to his old playstyle.

[@opmav-kz4tj]

HE DOESNT EVEN LAST LONG IN FIGHTS, he is an assassin/mm not a FIGHTER my gosh moonton the passive heal is not even needed and that ULT will never be used until the end of time

[@R3M1XZ3R]

Lunox revamped - cancelled Granger revamped - cancelled Yi sun shin - maybe cancelled too

[@imajejemon2437]

Yes

[@ChenLiYong]

If his ult captures enemies inside the circle (like silvanna’s ult), THEN i will say this is a good revamp. Otherwise, this is just a major nerf. I don’t need your manaless change if it means in exchange for these major nerf. Yss map ult is a core macro strategy. Removing it and change it into local damage means taking away his macro capability and exchange it with micro capability which is almost useless as well. Might as well remove yss from the hero roster.

[@opmav-kz4tj]

Yep from Global Vision, low health finisher, and engagemane fights or take objective to just damage ULT is bad

[@maximusaztec]

Basically his ult is another version of wanwan but shorter So, another hero gonna be in forgotten lists

[@arielmangi4092]

He's already in the forgotten for so long,, I only recently seen him a couple of times this season and now moontoon want to very him again... RIP YSS

[@opmav-kz4tj]

​@@arielmangi4092actually I have been using him in low ranks and he is viable!! Legend 2 btw he is decent even solo

[@arielmangi4092]

@opmav-kz4tj I've used him too at legendary rank, I think twice and I won all games. The best game I had is lord alive then I backdoored, used ult so they can't tp back... saw it on a reel once.

[@Mike-sw4mb]

"Oh man, Khaleed has been Killing the meta lately...lets nerf Yi sun shin!" -Moonton

[@boopbep123]

I don't think anyone would ever use this hero anymore after this 😔😔

[@NVEDAR]

😢😢😢😢😢yas

[@raidenjamesgregyy1324]

We need Revamp from heroes that "NEED IT" not to heroes that "DONT NEED IT"

[@12batchforever20]

Yi-sun shin + wanwan mechanism = Yi-wanshin❤

[@darkburntrap5401]

YWS

[@arielmangi4092]

At least wanwan is still playable... at lower ranks. Hahahaha

[@gammog]

​​​@@arielmangi4092Wanwan is META again* brother, she's being used rn in pro scene. Emphasis on again* just in case you didn't know

[@arielmangi4092]

@gammog pro scene is different than rank games brother. And FYI, wanwan is still in my hero pool during ranks even after the nerfs.

[@NVEDAR]

😢😢😢😢😢

[@jivraj2110]

It's the lunox problem all over again. Please moonton stop giving revamps to heroes that don't need one and even if they give a revamp, don't make it worst. Let's just hope that players wouldn't let it come to official server like we did in lunox's case. If they really wanna buff YSS, they should just add the movement speed buff from this "revamp" to the official server YSS and it's all good. In fact there's another idea for a YSS buff: Since his base summons 2 boats on either sides, when YSS takes one boat, the other boat shouldn't disappear and instead an ally hero can use that boat as well.

[@Lava3D69]

This is not revamp, this is a nerf!

[@ajktt1033]

moonton doing April's fool on October

[@adhirajdebbarma9343]

Look how they massacred my boy😰

[@notme6753]

I feel the same for Granger

[@bluewarrenlim]

And the saddest part about his revamp is his ult is transferred to the ultimate of the hero that will be released after Kalea which will have the ultimate of YSS but with a stun

[@opmav-kz4tj]

Bad reasoning for moonton

[@Mirayalamlbb]

PLS DONT CHANGE MY HERO…… I WILL QUIT I SWEAR

[@doodle_rizz]

Im sorry if I underestimated you.. I NEVER KNEW YOU COULD GO THIS FAR CANCERTON..!!😈😈

[@BlueGD_209]

This hero became more useless each time😭🙏 (Stupid ult)

[@simplestickland3367]

*"If this revamp is called cooking, then burning water is a 5 michelin star gourmet meal."*

[@youzerseif]

I think the movement speed buff or the slow effect on his second skill or not lossing speed while casting 2nd skill, one or more of these should be implemented because that makes more sense for an " assassin marksman " because he can chase and run, the ultimate part is what makes zero sense to me, they could just make it his boat or smth so that he can use a stun whenever he needs it

[@opmav-kz4tj]

THIS IS SO TRUE, either one of the buffs on his first or second, both being implemented is too op maybe the second skill revamp will be good and first skill slow immunity being gone gives him something to be countered. Then a buff to get his boat because when you play YSS you don't wanna die all the time because mm and you wanna farm so going back to base is rare for YSS. AND EVERYTHING ELSE STAY THE SAME

[@youzerseif]

@@opmav-kz4tj Yeah implementing all of them will make him broken even with the damage nerf, but im pretty sure one or two would be enough to get him back on track

[@pouya1100]

This is what happens when you make a video with the title "YSS has the highest win rate in rank"

[@orangepie5264]

Its exactly as i thought Hok never really needed to do anything, moonton will self destruct because Moonton manager has negative iq

[@yasushirokeito9551]

The only thing that YSS needs is BUFF, Which some buffs were implemented there. But somehow the NERFs were overshadowing it. The Ult is as good as it is rn😢

[@rummanTheheavyknight]

This hero is already unpopular and their nerfing him more

[@Attie_sxch]

I dont use yss but this is literally a major nerf to the ground

[@lockey0098]

How my boy has fallen. From Bleeding effects to weapon switching to this ULT

[@joshuahodge8537]

Just like the real story of Yi...he got stripped of rank and thrown in jail unjustified...

[@jenjenhocho3188]

This isn't a revamp.... it's an execution. R. I. P.

[@aieonnam]

Make him like roger where his melee weapon enhance damge whenever the enemy hero low hp, then instan cd his first skill whenever he got a kill

[@opmav-kz4tj]

No just keep him as it is in the original server

[@unxplain6230]

This is an overall nerf it's not a revamp. They removed turtle ship, ulti vision, lower critical damage etc. This is not funny moonton. He needs BUFF not REVAMP. 😡😡😡

[@NathanReynold]

REPORT MOONTON. WE GOT 1600 PRIMOGEMS BACK WHEN THE HYDRO DRAGON GOT NERFED. WE ALL HERE SHOULD DO THE SAME

[@Bruhgas]

Aint no way they killed a dead hero

[@Withscreen3367]

yss revamp notification : Yeah thats't it. But after knowing about changes : 😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@Ornyl]

I accept the changes. Except for the ult change, that ult can't compare to the utility of the global vision. So i hope it's kept the same.

[@opmav-kz4tj]

I can agree to some extent but the boat change his main interface always has him having a boat near him and also the passive being only 1 instead 2 is not ideal for me and my playstyle of him

[@notfex1427]

This is NOT what we wanted. Dont get me wrong, there are some obvious good adjustments on this "revamp", but its sacrificing TOO MUCH of Yi sun shin's great strengths.

[@al-khalifasaid7376]

Eljin if you have connection to moonton tell em that wasn't a revamp its a nerf yss ulti is useful by revealing all the opponents location

[@RimuruTempestCiel]

Yin ultimate ❌ Miya old second skill✅

[@Kraiikraiitaytay]

Whoever came up with this idea should be fired

[@Mirayalamlbb]

People buy expensive skins and then the hero get changes so much . Its not FAIR

[@DreiChessNerd]

THIS IS A MAJOR NERF TO YSS!!! The only reason as to why he's still usable in high ranked matches is because of his ult and crit damage. Imagine having your POTENTIALLY game changing ultimate getting replaced by Gankplanks ultimate from LoL. The Crit Damage from 70%-100% to 70% is also a big blow as long-time yss users will have a hard time outplaying the enemy when it comes to 1v1 situations due to this nerf. Btw it was unnecessary to remove the boats bro that was one cool factor about yss😭

[@DreiChessNerd]

Maybe it's not the only reason why he's still getting some play in high ranked matches, but still a big part of his toolkit and usage.

[@saikyouotaku]

This change will get me to the hospital cuz of the trauma ..

[@PomzQt]

Bruh meanwhile the other heroes that really need a revamp didn't get one

[@mihintai8166]

They just want to make YSS as useless as old Valir's ult used to be....

[@syanreeze253]

People learn over time, but why do Moonton devs get dumber over time? 😭

[@BubBledsBlue]

They just made yi sun shin even more confusing 💀

[@lexjordan9910]

It's sad that he becomes trash because of the Preparation for the new MAGE hero who will get his Ultimate. That's kinda garbage move for Moonton. It will be much better if after using the ULT, Yi sun shin could ride on the boat so that he can stun some fleeing enemy.

[@iamengineered]

How to destroy a harmless hero:

[@didwmdaimari-Bankai]

The person who brought this change hates Yu sun sin... Or got destroyed by Yu Sun Sin

[@Donalddorito]

Why did they do this to him? He is already perfect. He is one of if not the best revamp of all.