New ZILLION 1000 VS 2020 METANIUM MGL cast BATTLE!!!

Better late than never I present the cast distance battle between the new Daiwa Zillion 1000 with the SV BOOST, vs Shimanos Mighty 2020 Metanium.
DAIWA, SHIMANO, ABU GARCIA, LEWS, KASTKING, QUANTUM, 13 FISHING, CURADO, CITICA, CASITAS, CAENAN, CHRONARCH, METANIUM, ALDEBARAN, ANTARES, CALAIS, STELLA, CONQUEST, SUSTAIN, STRADIC, EXSENCE, STEEZ, ZILLION, TATULA, FUEGO, ALPHAS, REVO, CONCEPT Z, MGX, LUCKY CRAFT, MEGABASS, EVERGREEN, JACKALL, DEPS, IMA, G LOOMIS, MAJOR CRAFT, MGL, NRX, CRUCIAL, SV, PISCIFUN, BLACK MAX, BASS RISE, RYOGA, BANTAM, ADRENA, GLORIOUS, ULTIMA, EXIST, BALLISTIC, FREAMS, TRUMP, SCORPION, XF 50, BAIT FINESSE, HAIBO, STEED, EXIST, ICAST, SLX, TRANX, POISON, SENSILITE, ZEPHYR, GOOGAN

[@THEREELTEST]

Dont worry butt triggered fanboys... these 2 reels will be going at it again very soon!

[@MrRednexus]

How would you compare your poison glorious to the conquest? Also for bass what rod size would u go, MH or M?

[@THEREELTEST]

@@MrRednexus I dont have a conquest but the 1st Gen Poison Glorious was a huge disappointment the times I fished it. NRX is levels ahead in sensitivity. The Exprides were noticeably more sensitive. Not sure about the newer PGs though.

[@MrRednexus]

@@THEREELTEST thnxs for the feed back

[@Felix-lj1ix]

Good video !

[@jpap967]

My butt is triggered

[@fantasticleese]

Thanks for the video. Great analysis as usual.

[@logicalrationalfishing7481]

I've watched your videos for a long time, good information always concerning spool weights and future releases. Concerning this casting comparison, I feel 15ft difference for magnets vs centrifugal, at that one of the best casting reels around, is pretty solid. You are a seasoned caster, but Daiwa is more user friendly for most. I just don't like to take either brand's side and try to see the positives they both offer.

[@ericcartman8354]

which one is better for pitching? no backlash, I suck at pitching, I do get small backlashes, so which one has the better brakes for pitching? thanks

[@christopherduda7281]

I love all your videos... one thing to remember with the zero adjuster. Factory workers aren’t going to adjust the adjuster the same. You should set the zero adjuster exactly how you like it out of the box and leave it there for good. It’s why there is still an adjuster. You set it how you want it and leave it. Don’t trust a factory employee to set it perfect. I plan on getting one of each. Nice video.

[@wanzhaf932]

correct!

[@THEREELTEST]

Its staying as is because Daiwa knows best lol... and even if I messed with it, it was not going to make up 15+ feet because I was already on the limit.

[@wanzhaf932]

initial first second the spool letting go the line effected by how much tension u give on spool tension...depend on how much pressure u give swinging the rod and weight of the lure.....too loose then u getting bird nest before lure hit the water....that why that knob is there is the first place...and zero adjusting term just a marketing gimmick....u need to adjust the spool tension knob....

[@jeffreylenz7314]

@@wanzhaf932 you’re wrong the adjuster is set to just stop the side to side spool movement, you don’t touch it, the magnetic brakes is all you use. That’s why the spool adjuster is recessed into the frame.

[@THEREELTEST]

@@jeffreylenz7314 all these know it alls thinking they know better than the company who made the reel lol

[@PortugueseDiesel]

Appreciate all of your videos. I have two of the Metanium MGLs and I’ve been underwhelmed. Looking fwd to trying the new Zillion.

[@THEREELTEST]

Im starting to think people dont know how to set up SVS infinity for distance casting... maybe Ill make a video on that. But I do admit that after a few years of testing SVS infinity, there are way too many variables and combinations with its braking system the average angler

[@frantyf]

@@THEREELTEST you should make that video!!!

[@jpap967]

@@THEREELTEST imo the SVS Infinity is super simple to use and set up. I don't use spool tension most of the time especially for lighter lures and plastics. 2 shoes and around 3 on the dial bomb casts everything without issues. Only rarely do I use 4 shoes ON and that's for weightless plastics or very light lures or if it very windy and I have to cast into the wind

[@Viiuuleeeeenza]

Hello! Would you choose them for frog fishing? If yes, which one would you choose to skipping frog??

[@ax5017]

Hi what reel you recommend for saltwater fishing with 1oz to 3 oz lure jigging? Thanks

[@fjin1]

Which one wins the battle of pitching 1/8oz wacky senko? Thanks

[@thomasng4078]

I am waiting for this for so long😆😆🤩🤩

[@Dmitry_68region]

Metanium the BEST!

[@stephen2634]

NFWay

[@spaceman8839]

I more interested in which one is better for pitching? I tend to get backlashes when pitching, thanks

[@LatvianPagan999]

What's the max casting weights for both reels? :)

[@leonardbrown1512]

In the end its what happens on the water actually fishing. What happens if its a bit windy etc. Anglers have their preferred brands and set ups. For me I don't need to cast more than 20 to 30 metres. Long casts aren't my No. 1 consideration. Accuracy and good brakes because its always windy out on the water.

[@THEREELTEST]

What if your "target" is 15 feet farther than you can cast with the Zillion?

[@leonardbrown1512]

@@THEREELTEST I don't need to worry in a kayak.

[@THEREELTEST]

@@leonardbrown1512 the majority of anglers fish from the bank

[@leonardbrown1512]

@@THEREELTEST In Australia 95% of land based anglers use Spin reels. I showed some mates my bfs gear and they had never heard or seen it. Baitcaster reels aren't popular here and it would mainly be people in water craft. My local tackle shop would have say 5 baitcasters on display compared to more than 20 spin reels.

[@wcnmmgb]

Love your channel, cant wait to see you test 2021 antares dc if you ever going to do that. 😃

[@THEREELTEST]

Im waiting on the Japanese youtubers to test it out first

[@masterbaeten88]

How does this palm in comparison to the bantam mgl, or the curado 70? The one thing I’ve never liked about daiwa is how wide they feel, like little fat bubbles. This one looks pretty compact and might be the reel that gets me to switch over from Shimano.

[@matthoffman3513]

No it's still wide like tatulas.

[@jeffeefore3782]

I’m curious as to how the zillion pitches and skips compared to the metanium???

[@Marc-nx9ce]

Have you tried swapping the zillion spool into the steez?

[@fishingmw1990]

I was wondering your thoughts on a few reels that I'm looking at I'm looking at the Shimano curado either the 200 or the 300 k or the Shimano curado 70 mgl what are some of the differences what makes one better than the other stuff like that what is your opinion?

[@THEREELTEST]

3 different reels for 3 different purposes, the 70 is for lighter finesse lures, 200 is for all around bass fishing, 300 is for bigger baits and bigger fish

[@Billywagner22]

Have you tried the Daiwa Steez Bottom Contact rod?

[@ex8280]

It's been 2 years, curious as to which reel is/was easier to maintain.

[@mikes1332]

I’m wondering if there’ll be a difference in casting distance between Metanium 20 JDM vs US? Will the US Metanium beat the new Zillion?

[@thechamplainfisher7854]

100%

[@prasgamingml]

Who is the best longcast?

[@timhafley5177]

There's a inner knob and a outer knob on the spool tensioner.should've adjusted them,where have you never adjusted a spool tensioner?

[@mdobem]

I am in doubt, between Steez SV TW or Zillion 1000. I currently have Alphas CT sv and Steez ct sv. Which one would you take? Light fishing. Thank you

[@THEREELTEST]

I dont think the Steez is worth all that money over the Zillion. And definitely the Steez CT is not worth all that money over the new Alphas TW

[@mdobem]

@@THEREELTEST I bought the new Metanium mgl 2020 71xg and don't like it. I ended up selling her. That's why I want another daiwa. I think I'm going from Zillion. Thank you.

[@THEREELTEST]

If you like a small reel go with the Alphas SV TW. Its the most comfortable Daiwa Ive ever palmed

[@fantasticleese]

Was that the jdm met you were using?

[@samdavis1257]

Both are solid reel companies. I personally like Daiwa for the line guide system, buts that's me. Crazy to see that there are reel wars like kids debating PS and Xbox.

[@RedGalaxyFishbone]

For real and Samsung or iPhone 😂 People just like to push their thoughts on others

[@figueroa2191]

What would you choose for the metanium? Dc or mgl? I was going to purchase the dc but wanted to do some research and see if there is anything that matches the quality lol

[@THEREELTEST]

for light lures the MGL. For everything else the DC

[@raychoi4994]

Dont buy the Dc. It is a 2015 model that probably will be replaced next year

[@mr.oinkersmcpe9812]

Hey I’m getting either the Metanium DC or the 2020 Metanium MGL what are u thinking I should get ? Or thoughts on it

[@stephen2634]

Get the Zillion

[@tonykomer2997]

You really need to adjust the spool clearance on the Zillion regardless what Daiwa says. Numerous people have found its set for average and not consistent max distances. You can see this in your narrow tune ability. Blow up or short with only one click brake change. Numerous people have found this on a few different models all with the non adjust from .daiwa. when you have a chance try it. If you get over 120ft you know it had an effect with that crankbait.

[@NFiltr8Red]

Use binder hole stickers for baitcasters. They are the best for keeping your line in place instead of random pieces of tape.

[@mosicnflowmuasyaj9748]

Daiwa or shimano? I like them both.

[@user-pn1hh8ez7e]

For such a bait on the previous zillion, the best setting was 5, and in the absence of a headwind, 4. And this is with zero tension of the spool. I think you've set the brake settings too much.

[@ryanfujimura8742]

Agreed! I keep mine on 4 max! 3-4 but mostly 4. Never 5 though as it seems overbraked for me

[@dlok9563]

He does this every time

[@clariidfisherman3702]

Are you gonna do the Curado MGL? I'd like to see the Curado MGL vs the SLX MGL. See if a 0.4g spool weight difference makes any real difference

[@THEREELTEST]

maybe eventually

[@findingthetrackway4875]

I know it's been awhile, but having received both these reels in USDM versions, I have to point out that the USDM Zillion includes instructions on adjusting the Zero Adjuster. It's explained that the zero adj. is not a one-n-done from the factory. It's explained that It's designed as a means to keep from bumping the spool tension while in use. As far as which is my favorite, the jury's still out.

[@THEREELTEST]

Messing with the spool tension would not have changed the outcome

[@RXAngler]

Great comparison test! I too have noticed that the Metanium was outcasting the Zillion on the water. I thought I was seeing things but, your numbers definitely cemented that observation I was having. Thanks brother! Keep up the great work!

[@THEREELTEST]

Looking forward to your Zillion review brother

[@bruceksdwilson]

I can't wait until you do the real test with the new scorpion DC versus the old scorpion DC

[@bruceksdwilson]

Reel

[@THEREELTEST]

gotta wait till the new one comes out first

[@bruceksdwilson]

I already put $100 down payment on mine

[@pewpewrn7565]

@@bruceksdwilson where at?

[@bruceksdwilson]

@@pewpewrn7565 Japanese tackle. Com

[@charlesgurnea2004]

did you use the JDM mentanium

[@indrapratomo361]

zilion sv tw 2021 Vs Old Version Metanium MGL 2016/2017 Who is better

[@rossionq110]

Good video, Thanks

[@BoandBeceadventures]

Hey man. Another great video. Do one on the bigger reels and compare them with alijos

[@THEREELTEST]

Im going to try to do an Alijos vs Curado 300k comparison when I get the chance

[@BoandBeceadventures]

@@THEREELTEST it not a lure I know but with a 2oz sinker I can almost spools it. Few more practices and I’m sure I’ll spool it completely. The Alijos that is.

[@TheWaymont]

My Zillions can all cast without issue with the dial set to 5-6 without backlash at all.

[@carsonkirshner6849]

Put the Bantam up against the zillion. More even in the price range.

[@wanzhaf932]

bantam getting old....

[@justinsmith8892]

If you buy JDM, the Met and new Zillion are almost identical in price. If you buy USDM, you're getting a Zillion made in Thailand, not Japan. It's done specifically so Daiwa could save money on the USDM Zillion.

[@clariidfisherman3702]

@@wanzhaf932 it's jarring thinking that 2018 is THREE YEARS AGO isn't it

[@THEREELTEST]

Looks like Daiwa just raised the price of the new Zillion to $349....exactly the same as the Bantam

[@ikashibimauler]

I was expecting an actual competition here. Wow. Looks like Daiwa should boost that reel back to the drawing board.

[@THEREELTEST]

SV Boost may work... against standard SV reels, just not against SVS Infinity

[@fastbullet7301]

Nah, they at Diawa already caught (and will continue to catch) the "fish" they wanted.

[@hunterbull7804]

Probably could have gotten better distance out of both if you loosen the spool tension. I like plenty of play in my reels.

[@THEREELTEST]

if you loosen 1 thing you have to tighten up another

[@charlesgurnea2004]

Can u do a mentinum 13 and coastal sv diawa

[@jonsecrist84]

I have both these reels done the test w same li e same lure..actually adjust the dawia from factory results would suprise u..good content but clearly u are a shimano fan boy as u call other folks..adjust the zero adjust and re do it..

[@kiddflo5]

Zero adjust on the zillion is just basically tensioner right?

[@kylewebb265]

It’s funny to see how the Shimano fanboys react when their reel wins a casting battle, when in reality that’s only a minor factor in what makes one reel better than the other.

[@THEREELTEST]

Its even funnier to see how the Daiwa fanboys react lol

[@dasc507]

Sounds like something a Daiwa fan boy would say. Just bend the knee to Shimano already… 🙄

[@InfinityFishing]

Great test i was surprised zilion so easily beaten.. can you repeat the test with pe braid spooled?

[@THEREELTEST]

Im not... the SV boost may be an advantage over other Daiwa reels but Shimano spools are noticeably faster

[@imonke6240]

8 brakes on the zillion is wayy too high! the zillion has the capacity to go lower on the brakes

[@THEREELTEST]

Nope, with that lure I was on the limit

[@raqim92]

Thats true, i can do 5-6 brake on 7-18 gram lure

[@parkersutton6422]

i'm confused. isn't the metanium $70 more expensive? why wouldn't the more expensive reel cast farther?

[@Fishermens_Vue]

The JDM Met 20 he used can be bought mostly everywhere for $300. New Zillion is $380-400 offered in Japan only atm.

[@THEREELTEST]

In Japan they are about the same price.

[@nazar6715]

Good video thanks

[@dianazhou2909]

I used to have the 2021 zillion but I sold it anyways as I already have the Metanium and tbh the zillion is a more user friendly reel which is easier to use but still the Metanium cast further but its very troublesome to set the interoir brakes in my opinion

[@BogdanFloreaLureAngler]

Metanium 💪💪💪

[@onemorecast1352]

Shimano is life! Ride or die!

[@eugenejohnson8635]

The metanium reel is their a American and a Japan model if is what’s the difference between the two

[@THEREELTEST]

the US Metanium has a deeper spool and bigger handle and knobs

[@eugenejohnson8635]

That’s what I like in a reel

[@eugenejohnson8635]

The one from Japan the line how much does it hold metanium

[@eugenejohnson8635]

Just thinking I got a metanium xg from Japan the handle is 86 what is the American one is the handle

[@raychoi4994]

I only know the US cost much more for the same reel

[@jeisonhansson]

I just tried my zillion for the first time. And I can say for sure that using the setting 8 on the brakes is just ridiculous. I went down to 4 with a 12 gram crankbait witouth any problems. Just to be sure I didn't touch the zero adjuster at all. I'm not saying that the zillion casts further, I haven't tried the metanium yet but 8 is for sure way to much breaking.

[@friedrichknicely3012]

I’ve discovered the same. I usually run it on 5 or occasionally 6. Anything over 6 is choking distance…

[@friedrichknicely3012]

Unless throwing light and/or non-aerodynamic lures…

[@Traxrox1337]

man this wont be a battle, it will be a true war!

[@THEREELTEST]

turned out to be a mild beat down lol

[@aarondavis8224]

I just bought a mint condition in the box 2016 Metanium MGL for $210 shipped from Japan. Im excitied, Ive never fished a $400 class reel before. It might not be the latest and greatest but it was half the price and youve had nothing but good things to say about this reel.

[@hunterbull7804]

I bet the gears will feel buzzy so check out a brass gear kit. I did that with mine and I think it feels better than my 2020 Metanium.

[@clariidfisherman3702]

@@hunterbull7804 my new Curado MGL is a little buzzy too. Aluminum gears?

[@THEREELTEST]

that reel will still eat up 98% of the reels out today

[@aarondavis8224]

@@THEREELTEST I'm lucky I got it for this price, it doesn't have a scratch on it, it's in the bubble wrap. It has line on it but it wasn't fished very much. With the new one coming out I'm going to look for these reels. My limit is around $200 for reels. If I can get these for that price I'm going to take it over any $200 reel new on the market

[@aarondavis8224]

@@hunterbull7804 the reel arrived today it's in perfect condition not a scratch on it. It does feel a bit buzzy but it's still smooth. Has the same buzz as most of my shimano reels. I'm going to run the stock gears until I have an issue. I service my reels regularly and the number one issue with micro module is dirt getting in the gears. Just a little bit can cause slipping. This real looks like someone put line on it, casted a few times and never used it again.

[@ETuss713]

I've had both reels for a while now fishing inshore on the Texas coast. My impression, the zillion is a more practical application reel for a dy of fishing. During a normal day of fishing I may be casting cross, into, or with the wind. I may be throwing a paddle tail on a 1/8 jig head, 27 Mr, or a top water. The zillion will cast all that with little to zero adjustment needed and not have issues. The metanium can cast as good or better, but change in condition or lure weight seem to require much more adjustment or attention to prevent issues. Both are light, have very consistent drag and are smooth. How one feels in hand versus the other is a very subjective and personal thing for each person. Both are great but I find myself using the Zillion on my go to rod and the metanium on a technique or weight specific rod to minimize any potential adjustments.

[@TexasSlamFishing]

Do you think that means the metanium dc would be better for our texas coast because of the major changes with wind? I'm trying to decide which shimano reel to get

[@ETuss713]

@@TexasSlamFishing I got rid of the metaniums because I didn't think it was good for our Texas coast. I had the metanium and shallow edition. The Zillion throws the weight range that took using both the shallow and regular met. The metanium is a gorgeous, very refined, high performance reel. It's like a Ferrari, I'm more of a truck guy. I did keep my Curado 150mgl. It is an awesome reel. The metanium barely out casts it in perfect conditions. The Alderberan is the other shimano I still use. I wade and kayak. I don't need tons of line. A small light reel works just fine. I have a Sarge Freebird rod that I use either an Alderberan or Custom Lite on. Whole setup is less than 8oz and does it all. Don't sleep on the Curado 150mgl it can do it all too. It just weights a little more.

[@TexasSlamFishing]

@Rainbo Sprinkles cool I have the Lew's custom lite, maybe I'll just stick with that, it's just a little annoying getting backlashes while kayak fishing in a heavy wind. I make sure I'm not casting directly into the wind and I thought the dc might solve that problem

[@ETuss713]

@@TexasSlamFishing it won't. You can tighten down the spool tension knobs or kick up your brakes and get the same results as the IDC5 on the W setting. Keep in mind the Scorpion DC has the same IDC5 chip in in that the Metanium DC has... and it's less than 200 dollars on digitaka. Maybe that would be an option to see if you at least like the DC or it is capable of doing what you want. This winter with our strong winds and constantly changing direction Ive leaned heavily on my zillion and Custom Lite. They've made it very easy when I switch from a Kwiggler ball tail on a 16th to a Corky. I've owned Old 18, Laguna, and waterloo rods fpr a good while. I finally jumped in on a Sarge rod. It's not magic, but it's made as big of a difference as a new reel. I may pick up a Waterloo carbon mag some day, but I'll have a very hard time putting down a Sarge or Laguna ever again.

[@TexasSlamFishing]

@Rainbo Sprinkles yes I can tell I'm starting to look at rods now and I'm sure it's because I'm wanting to upgrade my reel

[@Zander_freak]

Zillon is the best :)

[@needmoreboost6369]

Until a 25 year old abu enters the comp!

[@stephen2634]

Maybe

[@stephen2634]

Which one

[@IlliniDog01]

I'm surprised it wasn't closer.

[@THEREELTEST]

with casting plugs SV reels can hold their own sometimes, but with real lures they still have way too much braking force.

[@ocdfishingaus268]

Is that the JDM met20 or us met20?

[@raychoi4994]

Why would get one in Usa. The met is much cheaper in Japan

[@cincinnatiking8008]

@@raychoi4994 I'm about to get one from Japan, but they have different sized handles and spools. The warranty is not good in the US either. You'd have to ship it to Japan, but I've never needed the warranty. For the price I'd rather buy the JDM reels

[@ryanfujimura8742]

I’ve never had my brakes on 8 on my zillion 21 honestly. I must set up my reel differently than you. Mine stays between 4-6 most of the time. I think maybe you could have gotten more out of the daiwa. I can’t speak for the Shimano and I don’t own one. But I know my daiwa never sees lvl 8 brakes

[@4492573]

Your correct, I use 5 and my zillion cast really far. He always leans towards Shimano so you need to filter some things on here.

[@zajdabneeg]

Metanium svs will always favor long cast.

[@NashFishingChannel]

I think if you loosen the zero adjuster you will get more distance. Some people adjust it to get more distance and some people dont.

[@dinmariocaster2003]

shimano for life man, shimano rocks

[@playmax36]

Daiwa itself ask us not to disturb the tension knob lol. Shimano rocks

[@NashFishingChannel]

@@playmax36 boleh kacau bang. Disarankan jangan kacau je. Bukan tak boleh kacau langsung. Yang setting kat kilang nt pun manusia jugak bukan mesin setting. Try la tanya user2 dalam group daiwa yang pakai zero adjuster mmg dorang ade kacau dan ade tak kacau

[@playmax36]

@@NashFishingChannel kalau ikut kn pngalaman mancing...mmg akan kcau knob tu..lain lure..lain setting. Tpi mamat ni die buat review ikut manual yg disarankn oleh daiwa sndiri. Mcm tension knob metanium juga..dia ikut apa manual ckp..."eliminate spool play". Kalau ikut manual...video ni lah results die

[@NashFishingChannel]

@@playmax36 sebab nak compare jarak kan lagi bagus ejas zero adjuster tu. Zero adjuster ni marketing scheme je. Basically benda tu tension knob/cast control knob jugak.

[@timhafley5177]

I always go as low on brakes until I have Problems.even loosen spol tension. Most all my reels only had one brake on.

[@MrDddd12345]

What this test is about ? Metanium/aldebaran breaks are not stable and reaching long distance is always "close to overrun". Daiwa steez/zillion breaks are stable in different weather/wind conditions and you don't need to control the spool at all. 8 ? I use 3-4 on steez and all my friends too. The distance could be different as author is used to shimano breaking system. I'd like see the reel being tuned by a person who uses Daiwa steez/zillion and make the comparison and ideally with different lures.

[@THEREELTEST]

you mad?

[@MrDddd12345]

@@THEREELTEST LOL! You know, I tried both : metanium-20 and aldebaran and stopped on steez/steez ct. And I know a couple of people who did the same. Maybe all of us are mad from your point of view but doing 2-3 fishing per week and choosing steez is a strong argument agains shimano's breaking system.

[@THEREELTEST]

yes Shimano brakes and spools are very fast and can scare the average Daiwa user.

[@charlesgurnea2004]

Iv got the jdm zillion and I lowered the side to side and gave some play and let me tell it made a bid difference

[@antonionovaki5316]

Shimano nowadays is just for looks, fooling many fishermen into thinking they are buying a Japanese quality and expensive reel, but it has an endless shaft and plastic bushings, Daiwa undoubtedly has more quality.

[@charlesshoemaker3622]

Casting distance is a small factor to me as I fish from a boat. One more advantage the Shimano has is its 70.00 more. Put the 70.00 into the Daiwas bearings and who knows. It's also not scientific in anyway how these tests are done.

[@mrpopo5285]

Shimano guy here, love shimano and will always use shimano i own a curado dc and a chronarch MGL and i was always go for shimano also the size of the shimano is better sleaker and just looks so much better, Chronarch MGL or curado K are the best looking reels from shimano

[@SamNguyenV]

The Metanium has a narrower spool than the Zillion. That help the line flow out straighter. If the zillion has the same narrower spool. I think it may be able to cast same distance with the Metanium.

[@THEREELTEST]

wont make a difference. If you cast them side by side you would know... the Met has a much faster, free spinning spool. The lure jumps off the rod different on the Met vs the Zillion.

[@BDortmund1]

Pair the metanium with the megabass z crank on a squarebill, game over.

[@tvhoanggiang7004]

Bao nhieu tien ib gia

[@mujataro]

Brek 8? Hang xreti cast bingung... aku boleh drop sampei 3... sebelum puak shimanu kecam.. aku semua jenih reel pakai.. Nice comparison .. u the best ✋🏽🤚🏽

[@NashFishingChannel]

Aku rasa kalau dia ejas zero adjuster tu dapat lagi jauh jarak cast.

[@amirshahril7890]

Rasanya dia ni kalau tak silap memang Shimano fan pun haha

[@THEREELTEST]

@@amirshahril7890 are you mad? lol

[@playmax36]

@@THEREELTEST i think he is 😂

[@galvadra]

Check the lure he is using on the test dude, a small crankbait... Dia setting itu brake supaya tidak backlash waktu cast battle, spot dia cast lapang, angin pasti ade... Metanium internal brake 2, external 6 is heavy brake... Saye je kalo shimano biase 1 internal brake, 2 or 3 external brake.. The Reel Test has did the testing job right,... I used a lot of daiwa reels, but always disappointed... Except the older Tatula SV TW.... The others daiwas? Dissapointing

[@lonniehendren9261]

The Zillion like most Daiwas cast farther when you just rotate the combo and cast it sideways… it lessons the friction of the line hitting the guides, especially with the t-wing system.

[@waynelagarde7956]

I laughed when I saw this was a cast battle. I already knew the Metanium was gonna slaughter that Daiwa.

[@clariidfisherman3702]

Shimano forever!!!!!

[@THEREELTEST]

With real lures(which is what matters) yep..

[@mikhelbunge890]

To be fair that reel should be against the bantam

[@waynelagarde7956]

@@THEREELTEST yep exactly, i have 3 of the Metanium MGLs and man I love them alot. Its so silky-smooth

[@dianazhou2909]

@@mikhelbunge890 yes agree

[@herycaster2089]

Lure 10 gram u can user 3 or 4 breaking system for zillion.. cast more distance..

[@siakap3rasa196]

Just adjust tension knob dude,, that's not fair,, if u service that reel that tension knob will change not same as factory before

[@jimford8512]

yuppp

[@christopherduda7281]

Exactly. Those are set differently by whatever worker handles it. If Daiwa didn’t want you to adjust it - there would be no knob in the first place. It’s meant to be adjusted by the owner to preference AND THEN left alone.

[@THEREELTEST]

no knob adjustment will make up that 15 ft difference.

[@JoseLopez-dj4pi]

From diawa its set by a computer for there optimization its not meant to be adjusted at all says in the diawa instruction but they still allow you to adjust it

[@Voxguitarsrock]

Not sure why it's always " VS" with people. Can't anyone just buy what they like and be Happy? And it's not like you only own 1 reel,,, Lol. Thanks 4 the comparison. Respect.

[@johnmcintrye7718]

We all secretly think ours is better anyway. Can say it doesn't matter though. I've caught my biggest bass on abu or lews, doesn't mean I dont love and prefer fishing my shimanos. It just means I spend more time with the cheaper reels cause I don't mind a few scrateches on those -- and my luck was better on those days lol

[@fantomphoenix6170]

Because people like to see which preforms better, long casting translates to easier/better short casting, so this could be important for pitching light lures for example

[@Voxguitarsrock]

@@fantomphoenix6170 fair enough. But I've always found distance to be much more dependant on the rod than the reel.

[@fantomphoenix6170]

@@Voxguitarsrock I use a tfo tfd power 1 rod, with an slx dc, and the TFO is pretty much a small musky rod to throw 1-2 1/2 oz baits, but I can cast a weightless plastic and empty my spool that has 40lb power pro v2. The reel sets the base line, and the rod is a + or - from that. As well as the line.

[@Voxguitarsrock]

@@fantomphoenix6170 good to know. Thank you.

[@88jbc]

I dont know about you guys but i outcast the metanium with my zillion. Everyones set up and casting is different.

[@NashFishingChannel]

Adjust the zero adjuster based on how you like it and it will cast further

[@findingthetrackway4875]

If you bought a USDM Metanium, it has a different spool (150) than the JDM Metanium (70). I can't personally verify that, but it's posted in fishing forums. It sounds like you can buy the JDM spool separately. I guess that's why it's called the Met 150 MGL B in the USDM. I pre-ordered the Zillion SV TW G (USDM) with brass gears as apposed to the Zillion SV TW 1000 (JDM). I'm pretty sure he used the JDM versions in the video.

[@Nathanfox2324]

@@findingthetrackway4875 jdm met is actually called a “100” size but it only holds 10-11 less yards then the 150 met so not much of a difference.

[@88jbc]

I bought the jdm metanium also and it cannot outcast my zillion, i have all 4 internal braking off and external braking on 2. And braking at 8 on the zillion is way too much braking. The settings on the zillion needs to be adjusted to get the distance out of it.

[@Nathanfox2324]

@@88jbc which zillion?

[@tiotiotiofishing]

i got both reels, Zillion out cast the metanium. oh and both used in saltwater. Metanium died in a month. 😂

[@thechamplainfisher7854]

You must not know how to fish a Metanium or Shimano reels🤣🤣🤣

[@tiotiotiofishing]

@@thechamplainfisher7854 maybe the reels can't take the punishment hahahaha

[@thechamplainfisher7854]

@@tiotiotiofishing maybe you don’t know how to fish them🤔

[@tonykomer2997]

The metanium needs upgrade to brass gears. Most guys I know have noisy and grind within a season and upgrade to brass gears and never look back. Makes it a solid performer. Lp in salt where they get dunked has always been a question. I want to see first a300/400 lexa HD and tranx survive a season of sea kayak fishing or real wet surf with only standard fresh water flush as a SW spinner would generally receive. Then we can see how they hold up. Any reel can handle salt if it never gets more than just wet line and good flushing. But went they get splashed by waves or dunked that then shows what it can handle.

[@tiotiotiofishing]

@@tonykomer2997 totally agree with the brass gears!

[@quintessa_8367]

I'm sorry to say this but u didn't set both reel to the max for cast..Zillion can cast even for 1gm lures same goes too Metanium..So i guess this is not a battle..Your brake and spool adjuster for both reel are not maximized yet and your casting skill too..I'm sorry but I want a 'true' battle..Not a testimony like this..Btw its a great video..Thumbs Up🔥

[@livinglife3230]

JDM Met 20 for $300 is the best value in any baitcast, nothing compares

[@rogergleason]

The test is fatally flawed. If the spool tension was not adjusted on the Diawa, your results are meaninglessness

[@THEREELTEST]

Its staying just like it came from Daiwa, the ones who make the reel and gave the instructions on it.

[@sebastianfedorowicz6967]

I appreciate What you are doing. Why would you lose half of the Day to do this test plus Another half to get this movie cut and put together So we can watch it. You could have gone fishing searching for your Sally or other river girl at the same Time and have much more fun. Greatly appreciated your service to us Anglers who is into purchase Best choise reel. Thanks.

[@THEREELTEST]

Ive been fishing here and there, caught a couple of decent bass. If you see me take like a long break from posting, its usually because Im fishing without the go pro :)

[@raychoi4994]

Shimano always kick Daiwa ass in casting distance. The met is also cheaper, better looking and lighter than overpriced Zillion

[@tetra3456]

Both have the same weight, and metanium is more expensive than zillion... at least in Japan

[@HMCNoMercy23]

I’m a Shimano user, but you already seem completely biased and already bashing on Daiwa and Daiwa fans in your comments. If you’re going to do a actual review or comparison between the two, would you please go “fishing” and actually catch fish? All these casting and this and that does not make up for what every reel is capable of, and if you’re not catching fish with them, then obviously you’re missing most of what the reel was made for, which is to catch fish, not to be used to just cast lures on grass for crying out loud. Stop being biased and bashing on other companies and go out there, fish with each one for a month or so, catch fish on both, and then give us a complete review and comparison. Thank you.

[@THEREELTEST]

The fact that you started off by saying you are a shimano user already tells me you aren't. And this is MY channel. I do what I want and say what I want. Nobody has authority here but me. Don't like it? I don't care.

[@HMCNoMercy23]

@@THEREELTEST The fact that you replied to my comment saying you don’t care? Means you do care. Lol 😂

[@stephen2634]

The Metanium MGL I had was a bitch to access the side plate especially while putting it back on . Not a great caster so I sent it back, got a Metanium DC Better caster not as smooth After a week started to make Grinding noises That went back as well What’s next Thinking about a Tatula Elite any thoughts ?

[@samhartwig4640]

I’ve got both reels. Both great. Comments are funny. Who is trying to cast the whole lake anyway. It’s u guys with trucks with huge wheels and small peckers. Nobody wants to reel a fish in from 100 yards🤣

[@kwailan5728]

Daiwa Zillion for me :P

[@SamNguyenV]

Daiwa only for me. Everyone else can have Shimano.

[@rancewarschak6304]

Metanium owner here .... take it from one and get one

[@eugenejohnson8635]

I would take the metanium any day twice on Sunday

[@rossionq110]

2017 Scorpion DC VS 2021 Scorpion DC!

[@THEREELTEST]

Ill do that when the new Scorpion finally comes out

[@MardukFIN]

Hahaha Daiwa brakes set to 8! Try again with setting 2.

[@THEREELTEST]

Why dont you show us first and put it on KZbin? Using the same lure I used. Ill be waiting

[@ryanfujimura8742]

@@THEREELTEST I can’t get mine down to 2 with a very similar crank bait, but I can get my 2020 zillion down to 4, and the right brake just tight enough to take away the spool wobble. In my opinion, 8 seems a little high, and 2 seems a little low. But it may be the rods we are using that is making the difference possibly

[@philipwiberg992]

@@ryanfujimura8742 I got mine down to 2 not even beeing too careful while casting, tried casting 8g daiwa lure, not as compact as TRT lure, 10g viblure, metalvibe, baitjunkie jigs. I think the SV boost activates when the setting is so low as it probably is "too low", but then it spins freely late in the cast. Tried 8 first but that was WAY too much brake, my buddy ran safely at 4 with all kinds of lures and weights. No wonder the distance sucked in this test.

[@ryanfujimura8742]

@@philipwiberg992 4 is my go to setting 80% of the time. And I adjust the right brake just enough to take away the wobble. I love my reel. It reels extremely smooth.. as it should for the price!

[@philipwiberg992]

@@ryanfujimura8742 Yeah I think that will end up being my go to setting as well, also love the smoothness!

[@gabrielbarretosaraiva7354]

Metanium mgl vs alphas sv tw

[@timhafley5177]

Can't read the numbers.

[@raphaelcohen4689]

mag force pe is the best

[@KingTaeChannel.]

shimano is the best. not surprise