Newbie Guide to PC Specs with Dan from Wired2Fire | What you should know before buying your first PC

Unsure what specifications to select? Confused by all the jargon? In this video Dan from Wired2Fire and I discuss some of the more important points you should know before selecting your PC. Aimed at those not familiar with PC's.
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01:40 Wired2Fire
03:21 PC Case
07:10 CPU
11:25 CPU Cooler
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13:38 GPU
16:35 Memory DDR5
20:06 Motherboard
22:02 Storage
26:12 PSU
29:22 Win OS
29:30 Summary Spec
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[@SimHangerFS]

For anyone thinking of upgrading or buying a PC please note that the Intel 14th Gen (which is likely to be predominately just a refresh) is due out in the next few months.

[@PRIME3170]

Very helpful, thank you!

[@ryanyoung7170]

Hi I’m watching this video (didn’t find it before ordering this pc : Intel Core i5 13400F, 16GB DDR4, 16GB NVIDIA RTX 4060 Ti, 1TB M.2 SSD, Win 11) and paying £1199. Have I made a mistake buying this for fs2020?! I’ve got time to cancel it

[@SimHangerFS]

Your system will run MS2020, at medium settings. Price seems reasonable. You might consider a better GPU though.

[@mikekaduce]

this video is going to cost me three thousand dollars :(

[@SimHangerFS]

😱

[@owainwright6055]

My selection came out at £4,200 !?!?!? 😮 Just off to sell the car . . . .

[@iNikz5050]

A really nice straight ahead video on the typical specs for a FSIM computer; clearly explained with a very good choice of options available on the build with Wired2Fire.

[@rafaelroberto3593]

Hi, nice video! My sim has stoped show photogrammetry…The textures are like FSX… 😢 I’ve tried everything to solve it. Could you give some tips about?

[@rustytag4286]

This was great - when is Part 2 coming?

[@SimHangerFS]

Later this week!

[@freespeechisdead202]

You can never keep up with pc hardware, it dont matter how much better it seems but each new upgrade is very mimimal. Its getting ridiculous and nothing but greed by these companies charging so much money for hardware. You need about $10K to build a system these days if you were to put all the lastest gadgets and within a couple of years its worth less than a third of it. It does in australia anyways. Its only been 5yrs or so where we only had 8th gen processors and we already up to 14th. Its as ridiculous as smartphones that come out every year with only mimimal improvements or none at all. I only rebuilt my system 3yrs ago to an 8700k and a 2060 rog strix and ppl claim that its old. Its just utter madness. My flight sim runs just fine even on high settings with my current setup. I dont understand why ppl have a need to upgrade every year to the newest hardware and the only reason why they are getting to ridiculous prices. As soon as they are only a few years old the hardware plummets and is basically worthless and just proves how overinflated pc hardware really is. The current world we live in is just looting the world of its wealth and all these corporations are just ripping everyone off, but in the end it is the consumer who are ripping themselves off by catering to these costs and buying these products. Not to mention the increase in power bills just to run these things. I only rebuild my system every 7yrs or so and I have no plans to buy new hardware for at least another 3-4yrs. By then I will need $20k to rebuild a system. Just crazy.

[@blackhorse8427]

What about ram? What's better? 1x64 or 2x32 or 4x16?

[@SimHangerFS]

In my opinion 1 x 32Gb is best, but not much between this and 2 x 16Gb.

[@LWJCarroll]

Thanks its a really useful video! Very informative from you both and looking forward to the build video. Laurie. NZ. 😊😊

[@KristianKeppel]

Are NVidia cards that much better for MSFS than AMD particularly in VR. I was looking to build a dedicated flight sim rig with a 7800X3D and 6700XT but now I am considering an NVidia card but they are so much more expensive. What would you recommend?

[@SimHangerFS]

Depends on which vr headset. If Aero or Pimax steer clear of AMD would be my personal advice.

[@leifandersen2756]

You are an influencer which only purpose is to sell hardware.What you propose is way ,way over what is needed to run the MSFS .decently .This is your only purpose payed by the manufactures .

[@SimHangerFS]

I do not get a cent from Wired2Fire, or any other PC manufacturer. You obviously missed the whole premise for this video. Go watch another channel, you’re wasting my time here.

[@owainwright6055]

You need to get out more mate. Or, on second thoughts, stay at home more.

[@Mandalor_ian]

What would you recommend for running both Xplane and MSFS I have a full AMD system at the moment it runs MSFS no problem but struggles with Xplane and I can’t understand why my system is Ryzen 7 5800x Gigabyte rx6700xt AORUS master 570s motherboard 64GB DDR4 Ram 850w PSU Any help or advice would be much appreciated I love Xplane but fps below 20 on my system stops me flying on VATSIM and enjoying my experience

[@SimHangerFS]

Consider upgrading your GPU, 4080 would be a significant uplift.

[@Mandalor_ian]

@@SimHangerFS ok thanks

[@KEITHGEE1000]

Great stuff as always Mark (and thanks to Dan). I have just ordered my new PC (from another supplier). I’ve made a big investment including the 4090. The only thing I haven’t done is include a separate SSD for MSFS. I have a 2TB SSD with a 4TB HD. I plan to only use the new PC for MSFS, my old one still runs well for all other stuff (Simbrief, Navigraph etc). So I’m sure all will go well. Looking forward to the next video to see the system in action. Keep up the good work!!

[@brin57]

I'm stunned that you guys get hit with 20% vat . . That's your govt having a lend !!! Fortunately in OZ we have only a 10% GST. Crossing out fingers it stays that way.

[@owainwright6055]

UK must be one of the highest tax regimes in the world these days. And still nothing works 🙄😆

[@leonmellingen3633]

Very informative! Thank you!

[@communicatescience]

I was all ready to move up to completely new Socket AM5 system, but as it turns out my 4 yr old 3900 CPU will happily let my new 4090 run up to 99% utilisation on my Aero. I.e. it can be worth trying to update a single component before going all in. Maybe a super-complex airliner would slow me up, but I don’t fly those at the mo’

[@captainmoose3365]

I don't know if anyone else is having this problem, but I bought the 7800X3D and a 4090 NVIDIA card. During flight it starts with FPS in the 70s on VATSIM, but 30 mins or so into the flight the FPS starts dewindling to the 20s and sometimes below, with both CPU and GPU utilization in the 30% or lower!!!

[@SimHangerFS]

This is a sim issue related to memory leakage. Plenty of info on the MSFS forums.

[@Specter0420]

The old 5800x3D CPU beats this Intel for flight sims, this is a bad video that steers newbies in the wrong direction.... The 7800X3D is about 40% faster than this, will have 2-3 more generations of drop-in CPU upgrade options vs the Intel's 0, it's 5nm vs Intel's 10nm (literally twice as advanced), it uses less power, produces less heat, and offers more performance... At least change the title to something like "Intel fanboy recommends the wrong pc for flight sims".

[@SimHangerFS]

Perhaps if you had paid attention to the video you would have picked up on the recommendation that the 7800X3D was better at flight sim than the 13700KF, but the intel chip was selected on this occasion as it outperforms the Ryzen chip in productivity tasks, thus was a better all rounder. Secondly the 5800X3D again was highlighted as a good chip but not recommended as it's platform is no longer being developed. This video has been produced exactly to help newbies steer clear of the biased fanboy recommendations.

[@Chucklesrailarchive]

What did you mean by flight sim tied to motherboard? I thought sim tied to m/soft account? I was about buy a new M/B etc for a rebuild surely there must be a way to upgrade? Thanks for interesting video.

[@wired2fire]

Your Windows key is tied to your motherboard but if you are repairing your PC you can reactivate the key but you will need to have a copy of it. MSFS is tied to your Microsoft account so wouldn’t be affected.

[@SimHangerFS]

Your Windows licence is tied to your motherboard, not MSFS

[@265petsar]

Thanks, Mark, for another great video, and especially to Dan for sharing his knowledge. I wonder if the company ship free to Northern Ireland? I'm in the process of sweet talking my wife into buying herself some nice things at the moment, and she keeps saying why don't you go out and buy some nice cloths. I am not quite there yet, so I'll just keep encouraging to keep buying anything she would want. Then I'll slip in the old, "my computer is really annoying me and is no longer good for flight simming" ( even though its a 3 year old then high spec with a RTX 3090 card in it). Come on we've all done it. Give her another month then the sob story begins, and thank god she hasn't a clue about PC's and won't realise the very high spec I'll be going for. All being well the big heavy box with all it's goodies will be coming though the front door shortly, or I'll be going out that door with my suitcase.

[@wired2fire]

Hi, we can definitely ship to the Northern Ireland. If the website won’t let you just use the contact form and we can get it sorted.

[@michaelduernecker684]

Hey Sir. Thank you very much for your great Videos to Ryzen 7800X3D and 7950X3D. Now i canched the System from 13900K to 7950X3D and RogStrix X670E-F, with my 4090. WOW. After Hours of best Setup for the 7950X3D, it works so much better in VR. Realy Great. Xplan 11, 12, DCS and of course MSFS. Now my RTX 4090 can give the Performance it have. This CPU is Amazing. The best Result is to turn off the Hyperthreading too. For Simmer. And Cache Option in Bios. The Ram works perfect at 6000 cl30. Now VR Flightsim is so smooth und much more Power. Thank you very much for your Work and Tips. My 13900K give me 600Euros. The Change ist OK. 🙂 Now its Time, to let come Crystal :-) (HP Reverb)

[@TRC_WA]

Same here.... upgraded from a 10900k and 3090 to a 7950x3D with 4090 and 64GB 6000mhz DDR5. Amazing upgrade. I went AM5 over Intel for the new AM5 platform making CPU upgrades a breeze and for the cooler temps... mine barely sniffs 75C under all core stress tests... with a Noctua NH-D15 air cooler. Don't miss the Intel heat and AIO at all.

[@ToBCreations]

A very useful for me video as I am thinking of upgrading in hopefully not to distant future. Thank you!😊

[@Specter0420]

Do NOT use this video's parts as a guide. It's a terrible selection of outdated, inferior, end-of-life equipment as far as CPU\Mobo are concerned. Any AMD X3D CPU is a far superior choice, especially 7000 series X3D chips.

[@SimHangerFS]

Please ignore the AMD fanboy comments, this video is designed exactly to help people avoid this sort of thing. As per my referenced videos at the beginning of this video we have already established the excellent performance of the 7800X3D chip (I recommend it fully for flightsim only use). The example used in this video was purely to offer a PC within a price point that would function well for both flightsim and productivity tasks. Also note AMD 5800X3D is now end of life.

[@ToBCreations]

@@SimHangerFS That's exactly it. I use my pc for both fligh sim and video editing. Therefore I think your recommendations were spot on for me. 😉👌

[@JonJon-dk3nh]

Very informative video. Other than load times, are there any benefits of the fastest M.2 990 Pro's over a 4Gb speed M.2 in MSFS VR ? Thanks

[@SimHangerFS]

Not really, can reduce stutters on approach to airports.

[@JonJon-dk3nh]

@@SimHangerFS Thanks Mark

[@wired2fire]

As Mark said it can help reduce stutters on airport approach and also speed up load times of the sim. Specially sims like X-Plane and P3D

[@JonJon-dk3nh]

I'll look to upgrade to a 990 Pro in the future then. Cheers@@wired2fire

[@OraEtLabora0]

🤔15:31 so they are charging 850 for 4070Ti.🤔 never understood how in the era of eBay, these builders make money, other than on few rich kids who are lazy to do this trivial task themselves.... especially when Linus's channels are doing so great and quite often they show how to do it...

[@expataviator7107]

Fantastic video guys

[@KingBobsKingdom]

I ended up upgrading to a 13900k and a 4090...absolutely wonderful combo for MSFS. Huge bump in performance from my previous 10850k and 3080.

[@KEITHGEE1000]

I have ordered the same. Great to hear and can’t wait!! My wife always worries when she goes out with her chums that I will be bored. Err please don’t worry, I’ll be just fine!!!! 😂😂

[@owainwright6055]

@@KEITHGEE1000 "No need to hurry back love" 🤣🤣

[@iankilkenny9057]

Hi Mark, just tried adding your discount code to a Valkerie, says coupon not valid for this product

[@SimHangerFS]

I’ll get hold of Dan to sort out. Thanks

[@wired2fire]

Should be sorted now. Apologies about that

[@paulmaddock4167]

Wow, Mark talk about good timing. Just waiting for my retirement lump sum to arrive and invest! Is there anything you would change in these recommendations for VR focused. What headset would be recommended with this system Varjo Aero? Thanks for all your content.

[@SimHangerFS]

Upgrade the GPU if you can to the 4080 and wait a few weeks for the intel 14700!

[@exploring_thailand]

9:33 Is this still going to be the case with fs2024? I though I'd read there were big improvements in its ability to take advantage of multithreading.

[@SimHangerFS]

Yes, but it will not utilise more than 8 cores at best, perhaps as few as 4.

[@mikegc3816]

Hi Mark, thats the system I was looking at - I think you told me in the community flight that MSFS will be medium settings with that? I would imaging it still looks pretty good like that.

[@SimHangerFS]

That is correct 👍

[@mikegc3816]

@@SimHangerFS Hi Mark, I thinking about upgrading this system to the 4080 do you think the £400 extra is worth for the performance difference? - thanks Mike

[@SimHangerFS]

@@mikegc3816 yes, definitely.

[@jay-rus4437]

After trying some other systems, I finally ended up with i7-13700, z790 plus mobo, 32gb ddr5, RTX 4070. This has allowed me to finally run the sim with high and ultra settings, virtually no stuttering etc. Have has on very rare occasions that a small stutter happens when in the Fenix a320 landing at a high resolution airport with traffic etc.

[@StewCal65]

I have the exact same system but with a 4090. Awesome.

[@johnporter5828]

If you are considering investing in the hardware and MSFS software, please read this. I've had the MSFS 2000 software for three years. I have about 100 hours logged on so far. This is an extremely complex program, and has many bells and whistles. It has also been one of the most frustrating programs to learn and work with. In some ways, I fee like I've seen Hell in working with it. They update it lot. As an occasional user, it seems like it has to update everytime I boot it up. Updates can take hours. Overall, you will have to dedicate many hours to mastering it. When accomplished, it is very realistic and fun. But, be warned ahead if time !

[@bac1111967]

Updated recently to a 4090 64k of ram which I didnt need for msfs2020 but maybe it could help with the multi threading and fully 64bit msfs2024. 1000w power unit. Intel chip runs at 5.2ghz overclocked but Im concentraing on sorting out VR. I have the Oculus Pro and its taking a lot of brain power to get it going right - I'm a little old to sit and sort out. I'll get there eventually. Great vid again Mark.

[@sascenturion]

Just upgraded too 😊 7800 x3d , 4090 , 6000mhz memory ..old pc was an intel 8700k ( excellent cpu for its age )

[@stachowi]

what kind of headset are you using?

[@sascenturion]

@@stachowi Pimax Crystal

[@Specter0420]

I recently went from the 8086K to the 7950X3D with 64GB 6Ghz memory and a 4090. It runs the Pimax Crystal pretty well, it causes a GPU bottleneck.

[@kentbergstrom3020]

I have also upgrade to AMD 7800 X3D, superb cpu for MSFS 👍

[@SimHangerFS]

Nice 👍