NewJeans Drama: Bunnies Living in Delusion - VCHA's Abuse Is Real! (My Opinion)

[@HauMun_1lovetacos]

Vcha's and New Jean's situation is completely DIFFERENT!!

[@nicoleloss7987]

Right vach was mistreated. Nj are privilege

[@dotcom3015]

Why did kpop fans understand when nj debuted that minors in kpop are a problem? But now that they don’t want to stay in a 7 year contract against their will, nj are the problem? The trainee system /is/ abuse, companies profiting off the work of children /is/ exploitation, new jeans /have/ experienced child labor. Now why does it bother your spirit that the children who experienced child labor want independence? Do you want children to stay in a 7 year contract to a billion dollar company?

[@killerpanda2086]

thats the thing vcha is fighting for rights, nj is fighting for pwer you summed it up excellently in the first few seconds of your video

[@dotcom3015]

Why did kpop fans understand when nj debuted that minors in kpop are a problem? But now that they don’t want to stay in a 7 year contract against their will, nj are the problem? The trainee system /is/ abuse, companies profiting off the work of children /is/ exploitation, new jeans /have/ experienced child labor. Now why does it bother your spirit that the children who experienced child labor want independence? What do you gain from children staying in a 7 year contract to a billion dollar company?

[@johnmanpls5577]

KG is actually fighting for ALL idols meanwhile Hanni said she was but she overshined the 20 workers who were killed in a factory fire then proceeded to take aegyo selfies with said CEOs who oversaw the fire deaths.

[@MisoOpi0]

This is pure insanity

[@kanohane]

KG is filing for labor law violations. Not all idols, she's American, not Korean.

[@천사-f2j]

Korean parents usually don't like their children to become idols because it is already known here in Korea that they'll live a difficult life while training. But then these teenagers chose to just to follow their dreams. This means that these teens already knew what would happen to them once they're in but ignored this fact. Some idols were lucky to make it because of their patience and determinations(maybe), but for those who must have had complaints along the way and couldn't bear the hectic scheds, well sad to say....

[@kidslearning6659]

So true. Living in the penthouse from beginning of ADORE, brand ambassadors and all the trimmings using HYBE money. Rude, liar,and not respect spoilt entitled brats.

[@Just_a_casual_fan]

I got attacked by bunnies for exactly same reason. Newjeans case and VCHA case is different. They just want to drag nj in every situation and play the victim card.

[@nunkibangtan07]

I have been trying to convey the same to toxic idiotic bunnies over on tiktok about this too. So disgusting to see that they have been commenting about nj on videos about vcha. Because of nj serious mistreatment and abuse and sa incidents are getting overshadowed or rediculed

[@Xiwangloo]

So please like and comment, so more people can see and understand that it's not the same situation, like and comment is very important to show algorithm that it's important topic

[@nunkibangtan07]

@@Xiwangloo i already did. I am a youtuber myself so i know the importance of this. Supporting you fully on this

[@eo0-g9j]

Hybe fans be like: lets defend a big company that abuses their idols and doesn’t see idols as workers but also go against JYP. Delusional

[@Xiwangloo]

@eo0-g9j only delusional person here is you and your favourite kpop group lol

[@nunkibangtan07]

@@eo0-g9j just because i don’t support new jeans i am a hybe fan🐸 talk about idiotic behavior. I used to like new jeans and their songs. I was going to be on their side before they decided to support someone like min hae jin so I don’t need the lesson of who should i support from someone as blind as you please

[@AReaderWhoLovesKpop]

I have given up on this toxic delusional fandom. If anything, what happened with vcha actually shows us all even more clearly how entitled self-serving and ungrateful nj are. Like u said, nj were paid millions, live in a luxurious dorm, has brand endorsements and yet they are here creating drama and kicking a big fuss about their alleged mistreatment while real case mistreatment like these are happening. I really hope nj and their toxic fandom can quickly just fade away and let the kpop community concentrate on what is really important.

[@ekranabdi7465]

If they were treated so well why would all of them agree and their parents and families and staff that worked with them so producers choreographers manger security guards and brands be on their side? You don’t know what you are talking about so be quiet

[@DetectivePlus-w4e]

Correction: illit's manager ignored her, but totally understandable

[@nalalalalala9946]

Hell, if I were in the same situation I would do the absolute same knowing what Nj’s CEO has said and done about other groups under the company I work for. Is it impolite? Yes, but I’m for SURE not mistreating anyone in the process.

[@kidslearning6659]

No proof is just Hanni saying. Her attendance at he hearing with her behaviour already makes everybody think that she is lying.

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsim]

It’s not confirmed which staff it actually was.

[@killerpanda2086]

honestly if a little kid was being an entitled brat infront of me, i would ignore too

[@esmeraldasoliano7073]

Oh please... Hanni is not a princess that everybody has to greet .. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@Sakura-ko9gh]

New jeans will not win over hybe

[@edgard.alcantara8311]

You're wrong, NewJeans is already won!

[@apartheid84]

@@edgard.alcantara8311 and when you woke up what happened?

[@JO-qn8gy]

NJ never dies because they were never alive.

[@imnot_samyyy]

@@edgard.alcantara8311 when did they win they haven't even gone to court and no they will not win no matter what will happen there's gonna be something bad

[@luvvs.tillanie]

@@apartheid84 they've got kako talk by their side 😭

[@kallolsadhukhan3615]

Immature kid's with their immature fan's

[@simple_me5283]

Real victim in case mhj,NJ n hybe is illit,le sserafim n bts

[@HanniluvDani]

OML-💀what did those toxic bunnies do AGAIN( im ashamed to be apart of this fandom atp)

[@Normal7Bangtan]

I love the way you are explaining the situation it's definitely true how bunnies are just being toxic....and trying to say how the vcha and nj situation is similar like hello get up it's not similar...

[@Department_of_Justice]

I'm starting to really despise minheej's little snakes as much as min herself.

[@DuFi-o7r]

Love the backgroud ediiting style is so cool ❤

[@DetectivePlus-w4e]

Agree

[@DohaAyman-p5q]

Love it

[@IllitGllit]

Couldnt agree more

[@Nohame44pl]

Great video ❤❤❤❤ thank u so much

[@kuju2315]

All people need to be combined so they fight against k-pop toxic culture. They are all victims of this k-pop industry.

[@MOARMYForyou]

NJ are entitled brats meanwhile VCHA legit got mistreated by JYPE

[@YomiSalama]

Great video keep up the great work

[@SandiagoDone]

Love your videos thabk u ❤

[@KaterinaBanks]

New Jeans and their so called mama is all crazy.

[@alforbes3209]

Im a hybe fan.i like their songs Wait .........what .?why.? Hybe is not a idol group..why so many fans who always hate.😂

[@eo0-g9j]

Using newjeans to talk about vcha is literally the worst thing you could ever do and it’s completely disrespectful. Talk about vcha and their mistreatment without bringing up others. It’s honestly tone deaf and the fact you’re defending a multi million dollar big company (hybe) while also going against JYP means you obviously dont care

[@Xiwangloo]

So tell it to Bunnies stop talking vcha and compare it to newjeans ,

[@parasol3561]

I mean if it takes members doing self harm, attempting suicide, having eating disorders, coerced debt, and zero privacy to finally care about them and their reasons for leaving their label then you’re a problem. I mean K-pop fans wouldn’t even shudder at the idea that “their” idols have eating disorders, coerced debt, and zero privacy. These two situations are completely different, but want the same result. NewJeans doesn’t want to be shelved by Ador, like Ador said they would, and VCHA wants their worker rights and freedom from a toxic / basically inhumane environment .

[@luvvs.tillanie]

I love this video but what do you expect to happen people are just going to send more hate to nj

[@jameshii3807]

Love that the New York Times is throwing shade at HYBE! Bunnies rule

[@Marcondirondirondello]

Why are we even remotely comparing the two situations again? This just doesn't make sense, then let's compare Gaeun situation to KG situation too, you realize these comparisons don't make sense, right? Wether you like NewJeans or not, it's just toxic behaviour, and it just creates more hate towards NewJeans, but atp I guess this is your goal since how you talked about them. You can't just go with this is my "opinion" while spreading hate towards the members, these are not opinions, but just hateful comments about them and also downplaying everything that they are going through. I personally never seen a NewJeans fan comparing NewJeans situation to KG, not even in a single video, what I actually saw was literally the other way around, which is a really toxic behaviour in my opinion, because to "light up" a situation, you don't have to bring another case into this. I feel like you people are just making this up, just to spread more hate towards NewJeans. But yeah, just go on with your hatetrain towards NewJeans, if that's what makes you people happy, I just find it really patethic tho.

[@Xiwangloo]

But you Bunnies comparing this and we saying don't comparing, make it make a sense plz, and when you tell actual fact with remotely working mind, will understand, NJ only and Only goal is Min hee jin

[@Marcondirondirondello]

@Xiwang希望 First of all don't talk about me, like I've ever said something like that, because I'm not that stupid to compare the two situations. Secondly as I already said, I've never seen a NewJeans fan doing that, but more the otherway around, which is straight up toxic behaviour, and you are not bringing anything intresting into the table, just straight up hate.

[@Marcondirondirondello]

So don't act all passive aggressive with me, it doesn't work

[@Xiwangloo]

Go twitter and tiktok you will see , before yapping here speaking nonsense do your backing up , it is the Bunnies comparing VCHA and Gaeun Situation in their own and including their NJ to the frame

[@Xiwangloo]

Lol back up your claim , and I am not bringing anything interesting? Because it's not interesting topic to entertain you , it is serious matters , which will be taken seriously,

[@nailju28]

I wish this vid would be longer

[@esmeraldasoliano7073]

Kids are njeans fans 😂😂😂😂

[@yojimbo3681]

Wait, NewJeans are the villains? Whaaat

[@HauMun_1lovetacos]

I mean... partially, I think they are old enough and smart enough to NOT support someone who doesn't care about them, and while eith that dragging like 3 other groups down... so--- they could be??

[@Nohame44pl]

Yes duhhhh, didnt u know that ?

[@nicoleloss7987]

Yez nj are the villains

[@piasambleben2796]

NOT THE SAME

[@jajonabe]

The lies being spread on Newjeans fans is surreal

[@kidslearning6659]

They do it on themselves spreading hate about other groups.

[@nicoleloss7987]

Nj fans are the worst.

[@lu6716]

Bunnies speaking on this matter and mentioning NJs is only to bring up how the industry is toxic and this is in any way disrespectful.

[@nashiPAGE]

*not in any way

[@Apobangpo358]

Watch the video again because you didn't understand anything...the case of this young girl is "real" abuse...the case of Newjeans is the whim of immature and spoiled kids!! The Bunnies didn't help!! Go work at JYP....You'll see the difference!!

[@cindywhite3914]

If it's toxic how do you get 3.7 million, makeup artists, designer clothes and a penthouse apartment. If it is that toxic don't sign a contract that is toxic. It only became toxic for NJ the last 4 months when MHJ and her shaman made it toxic. Now the KPOP industry could fail. Thank goodness BTS is beyond KPOP.

[@kidslearning6659]

@@Apobangpo358 NJ Abused living in a penthouse. I am laughing

[@kimyoung3160]

And what's crazy is that these "netizens" are blaming vcha and saying it's their fault they are not used to the korean training system.. the hypocrisy is unreal.. hybe is not a good company but the netizens reaction just proves they don't really care about mistreatment they just care if it's hybe doing it.

[@nicoleloss7987]

Hybe has never mistreated anyone. They provide everything for all 6 of their label. All 6 label under hybe work independently and are responsible for their own artists management.

[@roshioooo]

agreeeeeeeeeeeee :C

[@Fearless.cat1209]

People have to stop. Vcha issues is the same for ALL idols. Y'all live in a fantasy if you think that y'all faves labels are "better" than the others. Txt and enhypen were so overworked this year that they litteraly got sick and y'all still think it's humane conditions?? The difference is that KG could talk because she's American so she doesn't have to face the Korean audience anger but kpop idols are trapped since Koreans are gonna bash them so they basically got nowhere to go. They can't talk. All Kpop idols endure what vcha endured, as she said "this mistreatment is embedded in the kpop industry". Cry me a river

[@kanohane]

Txt are Korean. Vcha is American. Big difference hun. Americans are lawsuit hunters with poor work ethic. So, we'll need more proof to confirm those 'accusations.'

[@nicoleloss7987]

Hybe treats their artists well. They provide everything for all the artists. Nj are privilege. Never mistreated

[@dylanironside9329]

I hate you and your video I only support new jeans

[@Xiwangloo]

Ok love 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ekranabdi7465]

You obviously don’t have any idea what is going on

[@djdjsjskjdnnxsjns]

i cant help but notice how biased this video in particular is, one of the first ever min heejin wrongdoings since newjeans debut was giving the girls negligible amount of food and people raised concerns about her starving them when caught on camera, i honestly haven't even seen bunnies stealing the spotlight from KG online, i understand why you might want to continue the newjeans drama series but this video is honestly disrespectful

[@Xiwangloo]

Are you sure Bunnies doesn't want to steal the spotlight from real victim KG? Did you see the twitter and tiktok? Bunnies there talking what you said total opposite.....

[@djdjsjskjdnnxsjns]

@ i've been following this topic on twitter and i only saw bunnies showing support, i don't know how it looks like on tiktok, no matter what their behavior looks like - the first part of my comment still stands

[@Xiwangloo]

@djdjsjskjdnnxsjns it is good to support but when they put vcha awful mistreatment same level with newjeans situation is very insensitive. It's the main purpose of the video , because if you check the tiktok and twitter you will see some fans being very insensitive and making feel like vcha kg statement for basic human right. Privacy, underpaid over worked, not able to drink water or eat , compare to newjeans fighting for min hee jin back is a bit insensitive, yeah maybe min hee jin important for NJ but vcha mistreatment is far worse and very sad And if you think i am making this video for views and making money (my account never been and not available to be monetise so my purpose is not making money , as you see i tell what I feel as a old kpop fan from 2009 I have seen so many false accusations tara bulling , kara , twice , gidle , momoland mistreatment, and so many more , I tell what I feel , my purpose is not making money so be sure about that , maybe it feel like bias maybe because you feeling sorry to girls but if you look outside the box , it's business end of the day and legaly hybe and adore never bullied or mistreated NJ they fired Min but Business wise it has nothing to do with NJ because Min got offer for creator producer but she refused she wanted to be Ceo so

[@Snowgulp]

IM SAYING

[@Nohame44pl]

Disagree

[@xiongjohn50]

Wtf why are you comparing both of their abuses like be for real. Does New Jeans have to attempt to unalive themselves to prove a point. Like what the fuck is wrong you KZbinrs comparing the two. New jeans got out of the that toxic place before it even got to that. Anyway I hope both groups win their lawsuits.

[@Ohiidooo]

THANK YOUUUUU and also I see more non fans comparing newjeans to Vcha and dragging them then bunnies comparing the situations

[@roshioooo]

We understand that the situation with NewJeans is entirely different. That said, NewJeans didn’t face harassment or mistreatment directly-the main issue revolved around their manager from ILLIT. The actual mistreatment reportedly targeted the staff and possibly MHJ herself. NewJeans became involved indirectly but seemed to present it as though the mistreatment was directed at them. Most of the other rumors stem from questionable leaks, allegedly tied to MHJ, HYBE, or even HYBE’s CEO, Lee Jae-sang. Given the uncertain credibility of these leaks, it’s difficult to make a fair judgment. Additionally, if we consider the leaks, MHJ herself has reportedly made negative comments about NewJeans. The HYBE report was written by a staff member who had already been replaced, so it doesn’t necessarily represent the views of the entire board.

[@HauMun_1lovetacos]

They were saying to not compare them

[@xiongjohn50]

@ you said they weren’t saying that but this whole video was basically comparing to two

[@edgard.alcantara8311]

NewJeans i love you no matter what i'll support you. I'm in your side. I'm always praying for you that the court will side of you. It is wise decision that you leave Hybe that are not protecting you & always bullying and ignore you. I believe in you and to your CEO Min Hee Jin. You are the most beautiful kpop idols that i've ever seen in my life. No one can beat you that.

[@esmeraldasoliano7073]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Gveze]

😂😂

[@nicoleloss7987]

What nj is privilege. Not protect your joking. The company sued to protect them . They provide nj with everything.

[@Miauriel]

clickbait

[@HauMun_1lovetacos]

How

[@nicoleloss7987]

How.

[@galacticcat4584]

Okay but Newjeans were starved too and there were messages leaked in which Min Heejin body shamed them so...

[@Xiwangloo]

So why NJ want Min Hee-jin Like their life depends on that?

[@kanohane]

Hanni is def not starved. 🥴

[@KsenijaHajdu-x3g]

@@kanohane Hani ima ogromno nadutosti! Kdor visoko leti, nizko pade in to zelo hitro!

[@phetsiledlamini945]

They were starved under which CEO. The one they want? And didn't complain??

[@AReaderWhoLovesKpop]

@@XiwanglooEXACTLY.. I rlly cannot with this fandom that apparently expects everyone to believe that nj was so mistreated and yet they still want back the ceo who did nothing to stop this “mistreatment”? Or they seriously expect us to believe that they were so mistreated during the short period of time when mhj was no longer the ceo? Make it make sense…

[@lu6716]

Why you people gets ready to defend HYBE but jumped to JYP so quickly? Both are wrong and disgusting. You are just a NJ hater. When in fact, many of you HYBE defenders didn’t care about GARAM situation when the truth came out. What’s wrong with you people? In the reality yall are just mad bc NEWJEANS make it to be successful enough to pay for their own show preparations & lawyer teams so they can fight back hybe.

[@Xiwangloo]

"Alright, let’s clear this up. First of all, I’m not delusional. In cases like Garam’s or Jimin from AOA, I didn’t jump to conclusions-I waited for proper evidence, like Dispatch’s statements. Second, I’m not an NJ hater. The term 'not delusional fans' fits better because we’re not defending Hybe or JYPE blindly. The issue is that NewJeans’ claims feel weak and laughable. From what we’ve seen, there’s no strong evidence to prove they were bullied or mistreated. The turning point for me was Dispatch’s statement about NewJeans meeting with Min Hee Jin to set up a press conference and livestream against Adore. Just because Hybe is a corporation doesn’t mean they deserve blind hate for everything. At the same time, let’s not pretend greed or manipulation doesn’t happen, especially when young people are involved and influenced by adults.

[@apartheid84]

You are trying to divert attention. It is not about being a defender of Hybe, but about letting the truth be known, and in this New Jeans has proven to be wrong. As for Garam, it has nothing to do with this, especially when it is known that the company was supporting her and issuing statements defending her from public opinion because she was innocent, as was finally proven.

[@n8mare076]

Bro , who didn't care about garam ? Literally everyone wanted her in group , if you dint know what happened stfu .... I think you were sleeping at that time , hybe tried it's best , you haven't saw all the media okay and hate from knets towards hybe due to garam ... Dint blame that garam incident in hybe .. instead use your brain 😂

[@Snowgulp]

its because this channel is a hybe rider and new jeans hater

[@xryvxctyrsyndry]

Cu this channel hybe biased😂

[@anisulsekh3527]

Hybe PR channel

[@Xiwangloo]

🤣🤣🤣maybe better comeback next time , let’s pray for that

[@DetectivePlus-w4e]

Lmao 😂 delulu

[@YomiSalama]

Such a weak argument, in this video she mentioned evidence came up with theories ... just because u dont like something doesnt make it "hype pr" bring something to the table or open ur eyes and try to see the truth stops being brainwashed living in dull land

[@AReaderWhoLovesKpop]

It seems the only rebuttal bunnies have nowadays is to call anyone who speak against nj as a hybe pr channel/ person or hybe stan. Stop ur pathetic behaviour really. Speaking up against nj does not equal to standing up for the company. This is not a choice. ATP nj behaviour and attitude has just made them target for criticism. This has nothing to do with hybe at all

[@HauMun_1lovetacos]

NJ situation is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from Vcha's, Vcha's had actual ABUSE!

[@edgard.alcantara8311]

No one can beat NewJeans visual, vocal, young innocent look, and popularity, no nor even Hybe's girls, or bts nor any kpop idols(male/female) Because they are the most beautiful girl i've ever seen in my life. They are once in a million years to appear in this earth.

[@Xiwangloo]

Babymonster, Kiss of Life smiling 🤣🤣🤣

[@nicoleloss7987]

I can name dozen of groups better then nj.

[@eggo___]

I like illit and new jeans but i don’t think that one thing is the reason they are leaving hybe. Haven’t you seen the documents about how they planned on throwing them away? who would want to stay with a company like that. I’m just happy illit and lesserafim are doing good and I hope New Jeans find a new company and get to keep their name. Let’s stop pinning them together yeah?

[@kanohane]

Already been proven false

[@KsenijaHajdu-x3g]

Nezrelo razmišljanje! 1. To so ukradeni interni dokumenti last podjetja Hyb in to je kaznivo dejanje! 2. Vse glasbene hiše v Koreji imajo enako poslovanje kot Hyb in vsi vodijo takšno evidenco (kritike in pohvale) o vseh skupinah. To je običajna praksa in to bo Hyb tudi dokazal na sodišču. 3. Iz vseh teh ukradenih dokumentov so izbrali samo tiste strani, ki imajo pripombo, vse kar je bilo pozitvno pa niso predložili. 4. Vprašanje je tudi, koliko umazanih prstov so imeli antis pri tem dejanju! 5. Ministrstvo je javno objavilo, da Hyb ni kršil poslovanja glede New Jeans!

[@edgard.alcantara8311]

Yes, they are not the same because NewJeans Hanni is more beautiful than her.

[@Xiwangloo]

Beauty is on eye of the people , so shut up

[@KsenijaHajdu-x3g]

Nezrelo razmišljanje! Lepota in slava mineta. Življenje gre naprej. Prihajajo novi sveži obrazi in verjetno se ne bodo tako obnašali kot tvoja "lepa Hani"!

[@edgard.alcantara8311]

​@Xiwang希望 , Whether you like it or not, NewJeans is the most beautiful girl in the world more beautiful than the artists girl of Hybe. No one can beat their beautiful faces young innocent look. Nor even all the artists girls of Hybe's combined, they cannot beat the beautiful faces innocent looks on NewJeans.

[@Nohame44pl]

What is wrong with u?

[@nicoleloss7987]

Wow nj liars . Their are dozen of more talented and beautiful girls then them. Nothing about nj is original.