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@Dhananjoy_roy53
@Dhananjoy_roy53 23 күн бұрын
Justice for SSS Defense
@kousy007
@kousy007 23 күн бұрын
Anything made by govt psu can’t match the quality of private companies. Sig is a far better weapon. Also remember, making few and in bulk is whole different ball game. Design wise even insas is a great weapon but just manufacturing with right quality control, govt psu could not do it. I am a big supporter of self reliance but it should not be at the cost of soldiers life.
@be572
@be572 23 күн бұрын
True'
@Cobra313456
@Cobra313456 22 күн бұрын
Lol 80% of exports are done by PSU. INSAS was the most unrealistic GSQR given to PSU but PSU should be given credit for they made it working THIS TYPE OF GSQR ARE NOT ACCEPTED BY FOREIGN COMPANIES especially Americans. Ex DM Parikar himself said Army makes its GSQR by reading MARVEL COMICS
@sanjayhiremath9297
@sanjayhiremath9297 22 күн бұрын
True
@sudip_curiousmind
@sudip_curiousmind 22 күн бұрын
Agreed on PSU products but it doesn't have to be PSUs. The technology can be licensed to an Indian vendor with quality parameters and operational SLAs
@Cobra313456
@Cobra313456 22 күн бұрын
@@kousy007 80% of exports are done by PSU. INSAS was the most unrealistic GSQR given to PSU but PSU should be given credit for they made it working THIS TYPE OF GSQR ARE NOT ACCEPTED BY FOREIGN COMPANIES especially Americans. Ex DM Parikar himself said Generals makes its GSQR by reading MARVEL COMICS
@AlphaSierra380
@AlphaSierra380 23 күн бұрын
Thumb nail is Misleading. Through out the video you don’t show any graphic/data related to the comparison.
@sk8899
@sk8899 23 күн бұрын
Never understood the need for developing URGAM when OFB could've easily developed a modernized version of SLR like done by USA's DSA Firearms for FN FAL. OFB's obsession with Long-stroke piston systems doesn't makes sense if it really wants to compete against Weatern Systems.
@siddhantmedpalliwar6860
@siddhantmedpalliwar6860 21 күн бұрын
True, it should be so hard for them to reverse engineer, develop a working prototype, test and validate a proven rifle, but no they always want to develop from a scratch, back to square one.
@theoakatsuki
@theoakatsuki 18 күн бұрын
Long stroke were traditionally considered more reliable hence the insistence on long stroke. Besides DRDO has worked mostly around long stroke making them experts in that
@rajeshbobba3851
@rajeshbobba3851 17 күн бұрын
Desi weapons should be our Raksha mantra.
@udaynj
@udaynj 22 күн бұрын
SIG has been global superpower in firearms. They produce real world rifles that have worked for decades in combat and tough field conditions. It would be insane for the Indian military to accept unproven Indian rifle from a company which has zero prior experience in manufacturing a battle proven rifle (unless someone is getting paid crores in bribes). Why not give the Indian rifle to CRPF and test in other smaller conflicts than to screw the Indian military with another potential INSAS rifle
@linkme2dnet
@linkme2dnet 16 күн бұрын
small batches can be easily ordered and tested in the zehaddi infested frontier regions
@manh9105
@manh9105 23 күн бұрын
anything where OFBs are involved would be crappy
@sheshadramathur
@sheshadramathur 12 күн бұрын
The anchor's dexterity of deflecting when the speaker pointed out the problems were resolved after 2014(modi in power) vs previous times is admirable 😂
@PrakashBaripal
@PrakashBaripal 6 күн бұрын
They can't accept the truth 😂😂😂😂
@sohanpanigrahi2673
@sohanpanigrahi2673 23 күн бұрын
They should consider SSS Defence P72 and others
@vishalnayak3966
@vishalnayak3966 22 күн бұрын
To all those saying ugram is outdated, genuine question to you all..HOW?? is the firing rate low, or is the accuracy low, is the quality low? Facts pls
@NormalPerson053
@NormalPerson053 22 күн бұрын
Long stroke piston heavier recoil. Cleaner then di of sig but best system is short stroke system. Sub par quality of parts by Indian government industry quality of parts have always been questionable. Bad repo and corruption of these psu can not be just disappeared. No mlock. Heavier. Biggest flaw no plans for optics and accessories to make a battle rifle accurate and deadly to 800-1000 yards. Because all the buzz about these battle rifles in usa sig spear and our ugram is to have a 308 rifle that can shoot to mid to long ranges because gwot shown 5.56 has draw backs and 7.62x39 has drawbacks. It's just a gimmick. Ak 47 is ok and our country has no problem of less soldiers our tactics is fucking USSR 1970 to 1990 tactics throw enough soldiers at threat encircle them and have special forces contacted eventually it will get neutralized the catch soldiers will die but no problem we got enough to replace . Nothing will change 😢. Our soldiers regular ones are still in 90s . Most conflicts they will face with outdated tools.
@linkme2dnet
@linkme2dnet 16 күн бұрын
@@NormalPerson053 the solution to your conutries trouble is not conventional.
@100merijung
@100merijung 19 күн бұрын
SIG Saur is known for combat proved firearms. Be it Ukraine, Africa, UNPKF, Taiwan, SIGs have seen combat. Ranging from pistols, PDW/CCW, compact, assault rifles, DMRs, LMGs they are one of top 3 preferred firearms industries even by US for their service firearms. An industry known for innovations and goes toe to toe with H&K. IMO, I'm glad someone here finally understands why american. I'm not completely against our indigenous firearms but clearly if they didn't reach our jawaans then obviously, something through quality perspective things didn't work out as expected. Hence we had to select a better option. Russians are outdated, chinese can't be trusted, germans refuse to sell anything above MP5, israelis have provided enough and belgians are simply overpriced. UGRAM may need to go through many more tests. Until then, 716 is a good, effective and lethal primary pick.
@Cameron-x1r
@Cameron-x1r 20 күн бұрын
"nothing works like an indigenous firearm" The SA80 was an indigenous firearm design and it didn't work frequently.
@XD_Legacy_XD
@XD_Legacy_XD Күн бұрын
SSS defence should be in priority
@deltron9524
@deltron9524 23 күн бұрын
Please keep making such videos
@Dicloxacillin_dexmedetomidine
@Dicloxacillin_dexmedetomidine 4 күн бұрын
These private companies are not developing tech and materials in India. They are importing spares and assembling here Army wants 7.6 assault rifles with minimum 500meters accuracy Is ugram is 100% indian technology and 100% Indian material No importing of spare parts? I would suggest private companies to spend some time on developing technology from scratch 100% materials developed by you (no importing)
@GreyHound8
@GreyHound8 22 күн бұрын
I think individual soldier should have option to choose weapon.
@availablehage
@availablehage 22 күн бұрын
Do think of servicing ammo and training
@abhisekdas4605
@abhisekdas4605 22 күн бұрын
Jai Hind Jai Bharat Jai Mahakal Sir please compare and make a video on Sig sauer 716, and G3 H&K. G3 is used by Pakistan army
@skengene
@skengene 23 күн бұрын
I think its unfair to compare so soon. Ugram has not seen combat test yet. It needs more time in actual combat . Sig has seen lot of combat n therefore underwent lot updates. Let ugram grow first.
@be572
@be572 23 күн бұрын
UGRAM is 70s Based Weapon Model. Sig is Truely Modern Latest Gen Weapon. No Comparison Between Two.
@skengene
@skengene 23 күн бұрын
Sig did not become modern in 1st attempt. It is because of people like u tat indian arms have not developed properly.
@chandlerminh6230
@chandlerminh6230 23 күн бұрын
@@skengene what has random people in the internet got to do with this? sig become modern after 150 years of legacy. are saying we should wait 150 years for the military;s next battle rifle so than Indian companies can be promoted? you dont even buy a smartphone designed by an Indian company then why should the military take risk just to promote local?
@sanjayhiremath9297
@sanjayhiremath9297 22 күн бұрын
​@@skengene so indian army soldiers should die with lack of equipment for next 150 yrs? No hard feelings buddy but please think before commenting
@skengene
@skengene 22 күн бұрын
@@chandlerminh6230 Ugram has to b promoted. In war if usa stops supply of sig, will u fight with stones then? Read history first , usa has denied tech to india during kargil war. Dont comment wit half knowledge.
@skengene
@skengene 22 күн бұрын
@@chandlerminh6230 brainless people lik u think it will take 150 yrs. Ugram is already in trials.
@AbhijeetDolai-eo6ib
@AbhijeetDolai-eo6ib 22 күн бұрын
How come the UGRAM developed by DRDO as per specifications and Inputs from the Indian Army does not get selected by the Army itself ?
@AM-zk7pj
@AM-zk7pj 22 күн бұрын
The indian design is based on the Kalashnikov pattern its a better design when in trench and mud..
@Olive_Chap
@Olive_Chap 21 күн бұрын
Sig was supposed to be interim one time rifle for frontline troops.. but repeat order of same is travesty to Make In India.. Ugram or anything else by DRDO/ARDE is crap because of production capability of OFBs.. Instead DRDO know how should be transfer to willing small arms private player in India & kind of ergonomically sound SSS produce.. It should be from day one be chooses for this tender or future IA variant of 6.8mm round..
@tstanmoysamanta
@tstanmoysamanta 21 күн бұрын
Still, Indian Army would not buy an Indian Gun..........
@Hhsin23-b6m
@Hhsin23-b6m 23 күн бұрын
Ak 203
@narain1433
@narain1433 22 күн бұрын
why not SSS defense p72
@siddhantmedpalliwar6860
@siddhantmedpalliwar6860 21 күн бұрын
You test these on range not comment who is better
@shankramma.kshankramma6682
@shankramma.kshankramma6682 22 күн бұрын
Do firing comparison
@MohitSharma-sv5dp
@MohitSharma-sv5dp 23 күн бұрын
I think ugram need more modifications and it's need meet army requirements and has to pass all test across nation terrains
@sanjayhiremath9297
@sanjayhiremath9297 22 күн бұрын
Hey lets be honest here indian armed forces inducted an gave order to ASMI machine pistols. This proves that if indian weapons are world class then our forces are th happiest forces in the worl an they r willing to accept and order the weapons but if they are not good enough they reject it even though the weapons are indian. So please you guys before makin a video or commenting take these actions into consideration. As far as SSS defence i aggree that weapons are good but maybe they r not upto the mark thats y the army dint purchase them, if they were good then army had taken those weapons in consideration like ASMI
@SanjayKumar-d1g8o
@SanjayKumar-d1g8o 22 күн бұрын
Why 2014 . Is it that u want to make it UPA vs NDA. Dirty minds
@availablehage
@availablehage 22 күн бұрын
Ugram can be given to police
@Aura_Gaming_is_not_live
@Aura_Gaming_is_not_live 23 күн бұрын
💐💐💐💐
@manojd2120
@manojd2120 23 күн бұрын
UGRAM so outdated
@Sted164
@Sted164 23 күн бұрын
???
@be572
@be572 23 күн бұрын
True
@skengene
@skengene 23 күн бұрын
Video game boy , u kno more than soldiers?
@sanjayhiremath9297
@sanjayhiremath9297 22 күн бұрын
​@@skengene then tell me what do u know ?
@sagansahoo5847
@sagansahoo5847 15 күн бұрын
Indian public sector rifles sucks except private sector
@Kanglades-ui1im
@Kanglades-ui1im 22 күн бұрын
Forign company give huge commission thats why our babu hasitate to purchase indigenous products. And its true
@snehashischowrangi6016
@snehashischowrangi6016 23 күн бұрын
can you share previous previous Ugram episode
@thegreatestofalltime777
@thegreatestofalltime777 23 күн бұрын
How hard is it to make just a simple rifle!?
@be572
@be572 23 күн бұрын
For DRDO It MIght Take 40 More YEars. XD Imagine Pioneer Research Institution is nOt Competent to Develop State of Art Riflt. XD What a SHame.
@recon17
@recon17 23 күн бұрын
they are not trying to make a 'simple rifle'.
@sanjayhiremath9297
@sanjayhiremath9297 22 күн бұрын
​@@be572we need more private firms in this. Drdo is a good designer but it is not a quality manufacturer. You know asmi it is indian machine pistol o uzi which is designed by drdo in record time but manufacturing is done by private firms moreover indian army col was also involved with its design so he made sure that the design and quality is perfect which should match reqts of army so it is a gr8 success now. It is not that drdo don't have potential and talent it is just that it is a govt institution and u know govt institutions r dumb and constipated. If drdo was a pvt company it would have developed 5th gen fighter by now and flew it.
@mukundha7621
@mukundha7621 21 күн бұрын
Sss defense
@parthasrivastava4011
@parthasrivastava4011 22 күн бұрын
India is producing one of the best small firearms what a joke
@sanjayhiremath9297
@sanjayhiremath9297 22 күн бұрын
Not today I accept it but surely it will in very near future
@bathiniumesh7212
@bathiniumesh7212 22 күн бұрын
Ugram that up dated insas rafil but this ugram copy Ak gas operated system and also insas same better rifil. Sig 716
@biswanathlaishram8393
@biswanathlaishram8393 16 күн бұрын
Ugram vs sig. ???😅😅 still india can't produce a world class asualt rifle like ak Or m16.. From where this ugram comes.. Is that field tested gun . If u ask ur soilder to choose one gun between two they will choose sig... It's very early to make comparisn.. Only two countries had made world class assualt rifle till now that's US and Russia. Those isreali made tavor come after reverse engineering.. They studied both AK and M16 for more than 15 years. To make tavor.
@Aditya0227
@Aditya0227 23 күн бұрын
may be they can sell ugram to other countries no point in India now
@skengene
@skengene 23 күн бұрын
It wil replace sig one day buddy
@Aditya0227
@Aditya0227 23 күн бұрын
@@skengene lol our army like imported maal dont you know
@sanjayhiremath9297
@sanjayhiremath9297 22 күн бұрын
​@@skengenenot probably ugram but much better rifles then ugram designed by us.
@prashanthb6521
@prashanthb6521 22 күн бұрын
What about P72 from SSSDefence ? This is what kills entrepreneurship in India. Its all match fixing. Genuine entrepreneurs cant win honestly.
@rajkumardiamondton
@rajkumardiamondton 23 күн бұрын
Both fail on ground go with the Hecklers
@peggandwhiskey
@peggandwhiskey 22 күн бұрын
Nothing compared to kalashnikov series . Their reliability is next level
@sanjayhiremath9297
@sanjayhiremath9297 22 күн бұрын
​@@peggandwhiskeynahhh hk is on another level
@tridibpanja
@tridibpanja 22 күн бұрын
Sig is Sig , others are trash
@snehashischowrangi6016
@snehashischowrangi6016 23 күн бұрын
your Ugram video delete ?
@hemantchoudhary1160
@hemantchoudhary1160 22 күн бұрын
Sss defense is better
@sanjayhiremath9297
@sanjayhiremath9297 22 күн бұрын
No it is like comparing Nokia Android phone (sss defence) with apple(sig) but it will be in near future.
@Robdua1968
@Robdua1968 23 күн бұрын
Just propaganda video. No one believe in this new rifle.
@Hhsin23-b6m
@Hhsin23-b6m 23 күн бұрын
For me sig is not good rifle.
@pandibbarman
@pandibbarman 23 күн бұрын
Then you don't have knowledge about rifles in general
@Hhsin23-b6m
@Hhsin23-b6m 23 күн бұрын
@pandibbarman it looks good when you see but when we fire, this rifle has high recoil in which it lacks accuracy... High caliber rifle useless though it has longer kargar range than Insas and Ak 47... And it's sights omg its breaks so easily when it fells down....
@foodietour8313
@foodietour8313 23 күн бұрын
​@@Hhsin23-b6m First of all bhai ji No gun comes without a muzzle breaker which fires 7.62*51 except Sig 716. It doesn't have a Muzzle breaker so its recoil will be high. It is the problem of the Armed forces and the govt. that they are purchasing a Gun of 80000+ rs. Per unit and can't spend 5000 rs. On muzzle breaker. 2nd mountings of guns are made in India by Indian pvt. Companies so if it breaks during fall then it should be improved not Rifle. Thanks
@isleephungry
@isleephungry 23 күн бұрын
Global hunger rankings 105 😂🎉
@Priyanshu1988-u3d
@Priyanshu1988-u3d 23 күн бұрын
Source - western countries
@powerrangerofchrist591
@powerrangerofchrist591 23 күн бұрын
@@Priyanshu1988-u3dso what’s your source then ? I wanna know !? …… better stop blaming west for your own failures!!!
@Shivay...................278
@Shivay...................278 23 күн бұрын
U know it's propaganda when Pakistan and Uganda are ahead of you in hunger ranking😂😂
@dragonstormdipro1013
@dragonstormdipro1013 23 күн бұрын
​@@powerrangerofchrist591 What failure? Should we drop the ball and run like cowards like Americans in Afghanistan?
@recon17
@recon17 23 күн бұрын
So?
@SangramKeshariDeo
@SangramKeshariDeo 23 күн бұрын
Indian army should go for ugram
@sanjayhiremath9297
@sanjayhiremath9297 22 күн бұрын
If indian army should buy ugram then first stop buying international smartphone like oppo, vivo apple, Samsung etc and buy indian Micromax. You don have any right to critisize others when u r doing the same. If u can buy ur phone best phone suiting ur interests for communication, gaming, entertainment and use. Then why can't army buy international weapons from private firms for protection of the nation suiting their interests.
@SangramKeshariDeo
@SangramKeshariDeo 22 күн бұрын
@sanjayhiremath9297 dear friend weapons and smartphones are 2 different things..our army needs weapons to defend our country and it cn not risk to have a supply difficulty at a time of conflict..american govt cn not be trusted blind floded
@sanjayhiremath9297
@sanjayhiremath9297 22 күн бұрын
@SangramKeshariDeo my friend u r right in ur supply chain and trust points I agree on them but we have to note that we can't use ugram as our primary service rifle. I guess we should drop both the rifles and go with indian ak203 as our choice, it is good rifle.
@tsewangc9403
@tsewangc9403 22 күн бұрын
SIG 716 Better than AK-204 why not sig 217 for army?
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